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Posted on Apr 28, 2017 at 07:54 AM

     ~~  It is a well known fact that, our personalities are shaped and formed, during the early years of our lives.

 

All of us were raised, under some system of Government, and or, possibly Religion as well.

 

We may have not only dated, but also married a spouse, raised in a different system.  This however, all boils down to ' values ', that are deeply ingrained.

 

What are your experiences and thoughts, regarding how the system has impacted or influenced your lives, especially in this day and age of borderless relationships.

 

N B :  This topic stems from, one of the corners of my mind.  Please feel free, to share all of yours.

 

Thanks,

~~  S L  ~~


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Posted on Dec 12, 2017 at 07:06 AM

Quoting Kirsty28:

I'm still following the presidents from France and the USA. Both for different reasons, Trump amuses me but he is doing a good job in his own brash way. The French president is a breath of fresh air. He gives me the impression that he doesn't care about what society thinks. Look at his wonderful marriage.....


~~  Kirsty28  ~~

 

Thanks for the interesting comment, and it's always nice to see you here.

 

Your perspectives on the two diverse men, are quite unique.   Insofar as keeping with the topic, I do concur with you that, President Macron does have a close and supportive First Lady, His wife Brigitte.  Together, they are highly respected on the Global Platform.

 

While the other gentleman may be amusing to you, I am unaware of the ' good job ' that, you believe he may have done thusfar.  Perhaps you can enlighten us on the details.  ' Brash ' sounds appropriate though.

 

Puff, Puff,

 

~~  S L  ~~

 

 

 


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Posted on Dec 02, 2017 at 10:57 AM

I'm still following the presidents from France and the USA. Both for different reasons, Trump amuses me but he is doing a good job in his own brash way. The French president is a breath of fresh air. He gives me the impression that he doesn't care about what society thinks. Look at his wonderful marriage.....

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Posted on Dec 01, 2017 at 08:42 AM

Quoting Kirsty28:

In a romantic relationship, as you are both mature adults, (not age, emotionally) neither should be a problem. Religion may be if you have children.  Two different religions may confuse them, ern confuses me at times. 

 

As far as voting goes, if you are the opposite if each other, don't discuss it. Just go and vote for who you want or have faith in. I'm not politically minded. I just want a government who doesn't steal my hard earned money to line their pockets. I admit that I prefer men to women. Love Emmanuel and Donald but loathe my president. 

 

I'm not religious but enjoy church weddings and christenings. The odd church service or just being in a church can be a comfort. If my partner us religious, he can go on his own. However, should he be  Jehovah's witness, or belong to the Church of Scientology or a cult,  I will have to bid him farewell. 

 

My personal opinion is that sex and/or money causes bigger problems. There, you gave my 2 Euros worth of opinion!


~~  Kirsty28  ~~

 

Sincere apologies for the time lapse in acknowledging your comment above.

 

Truth is, I recently came accross a post on ' Suggestions for this Site ', wherein Starfish500 thought it would help, if there was a political affiliation in profiles, and it led me to this topic that was started prior to my summer hiatus.

(Actually, there is a box that is titled ' political beliefs ' in our profiles)

 

Hopefully, you have clicked on the ' follow ' icon, and will get a notification of this post. 

 

If so, as a follow up to your rational comment, may I kindly ask as to why you love the two men whose names you had mentioned, in the above post back in May.  A lot has happened since, and not to mention that, those two men are worlds apart in their political views.

 

~~  S L  ~~


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Posted on May 09, 2017 at 08:11 AM

Quoting silverlion:

~~  Maryclaire  ~~

 

Love your mature and experienced response, to this complex topic.   I would have liked to be ' a fly on the wall ' during some of those political discussions though.  (smile)

 

Interestingly, the both of you belonged to the same religion, although having come from different corners of the world.  This of course, begs the question : Did you meet each other in Church or a similar setting ?.

 

Glad to know that, you had 23 years of marriage bliss, even though you've had different childhood environments.

It surely confirms the possibility of such.  Thank You.

 

~~  S L  ~~

 

 



 

@SL ,

 

We didn't need gloves to discuss about Politics ..but today I went out and stopped by the Drugstore and saw a " FLY SWAT"

that I have to chuckle because I remember you ..Hmm I was tempted to buy 1 but I didn't because you are a harmless fly . 

LOL ..

 

Yes its right , we are both Catholics but we didn't meet in the church but meet thru our friends .. it was never a topic between us ..

 

It was already proven many times that mixed marriages are never a problem for both and the society ..


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Posted on May 09, 2017 at 06:53 AM

Wow, yes, religious indifference's will in certain cases definitely have a baring on a potential relationship Silverlion, even getting off the ground, at the end of the day if people have a faith in a Universal Higher Power then it really should not be an issue in lives because after-all you are all claiming if truth be known to pray to the some Creator out there anyway.

 

Where the problems occur unfortunately is when a couple come from different backgrounds and instilled in them a particular faith or belief system and they have carried that belief on through their lives, it naturally well have an effect where Children are concerned, because one partner may want their child to have a different educational upbringing in a religious schooling system as opposed to a mainstream public schooling, that immediately is going to create friction if you are not on the same page.

 

Secondly even though people might claim to all pray to the same God, there faiths they belong to may carry a different protocol, some religions may not adhere to festivity celebrations like others do and therefore a couple if they are not tolerant and in acceptance of each other because it interferes with their family gatherings in such festivities etc can only lead to further tensions, it should not be the case, but sadly it can turn out that way despite everything else in the relationship being rosy and on cloud nine. 

 

KEYWORDS... Tolerance and Acceptance of another's belief systems!! Let them be them and you be you!!

 

The political aspect is neither here or there, one either votes or one does not vote or you each vote for a different person, but that really should never be an issue because once again that is about tolerance and acceptance and most importantly not trying to control your partner to take the road you decide upon, after-all where the political is concerned it is absolutely crazy to get uptight over another partner's decision to take a road you may or may not take in relation to a politicial affiliation.


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Posted on May 08, 2017 at 12:08 PM

Quoting Maryclaire2000:

 

Hi SL ,

 

Religion and Politics in general is a volatile subject  ..As far as 

I could remember in my Sociology Class it is the No. 1 dont as 

well as in the Psychiatry Treatment because it could cause 

agressions but in real life we face it and could face it sometimes ..it is only how we deal with it ..

 

According to my experiences , I know a lot of couples who were

married of different Religions and Political views  but the subject of disagreements and separations are only about money , the children , the In Laws , jealousy and mostly their 

own Professions but I know too that Religion could cause clashes between 2 people because of the customs and traditions ..In here communication is badly needed as well as

in Politics before the couples ask the advice of their Lawyer and before the Court ..

 

In my 23 yrs .of married life ..we talked about everything including about Politics ( we belong to the same Religion ) but we have learned to respect and accept each other views and opinions ..without yelling and screaming at each other ..LOL 

 

SL , my last word ...It is known Politics between Politicians is worst 

and real dirty but Politics and Religion within relationships should be , must be, could be handle with care , respect , and accept the views

and opinions ..because we are raised from different aspects which involve the family , customs and traditions , backgrounds ( school ,

Church , neighbors, the govt . family) .." NO TWO MEN HAVE THE 

SAME OPINION and NO TWO MEN ARE THE SAME " ....



~~  Maryclaire  ~~

 

Love your mature and experienced response, to this complex topic.   I would have liked to be ' a fly on the wall ' during some of those political discussions though.  (smile)

 

Interestingly, the both of you belonged to the same religion, although having come from different corners of the world.  This of course, begs the question : Did you meet each other in Church or a similar setting ?.

 

Glad to know that, you had 23 years of marriage bliss, even though you've had different childhood environments.

It surely confirms the possibility of such.  Thank You.

 

~~  S L  ~~

 

 


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Posted on May 07, 2017 at 06:53 AM

In a romantic relationship, as you are both mature adults, (not age, emotionally) neither should be a problem. Religion may be if you have children.  Two different religions may confuse them, ern confuses me at times. 

 

As far as voting goes, if you are the opposite if each other, don't discuss it. Just go and vote for who you want or have faith in. I'm not politically minded. I just want a government who doesn't steal my hard earned money to line their pockets. I admit that I prefer men to women. Love Emmanuel and Donald but loathe my president. 

 

I'm not religious but enjoy church weddings and christenings. The odd church service or just being in a church can be a comfort. If my partner us religious, he can go on his own. However, should he be  Jehovah's witness, or belong to the Church of Scientology or a cult,  I will have to bid him farewell. 

 

My personal opinion is that sex and/or money causes bigger problems. There, you gave my 2 Euros worth of opinion!


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Posted on May 07, 2017 at 01:13 AM

 

Hi SL ,

 

Religion and Politics in general is a volatile subject  ..As far as 

I could remember in my Sociology Class it is the No. 1 dont as 

well as in the Psychiatry Treatment because it could cause 

agressions but in real life we face it and could face it sometimes ..it is only how we deal with it ..

 

According to my experiences , I know a lot of couples who were

married of different Religions and Political views  but the subject of disagreements and separations are only about money , the children , the In Laws , jealousy and mostly their 

own Professions but I know too that Religion could cause clashes between 2 people because of the customs and traditions ..In here communication is badly needed as well as

in Politics before the couples ask the advice of their Lawyer and before the Court ..

 

In my 23 yrs .of married life ..we talked about everything including about Politics ( we belong to the same Religion ) but we have learned to respect and accept each other views and opinions ..without yelling and screaming at each other ..LOL 

 

SL , my last word ...It is known Politics between Politicians is worst 

and real dirty but Politics and Religion within relationships should be , must be, could be handle with care , respect , and accept the views

and opinions ..because we are raised from different aspects which involve the family , customs and traditions , backgrounds ( school ,

Church , neighbors, the govt . family) .." NO TWO MEN HAVE THE 

SAME OPINION and NO TWO MEN ARE THE SAME " ....


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Posted on Apr 29, 2017 at 06:08 AM

Quoting rmac22:

Well marrying an arch conservative when you are a flaming liberal can be very contentious.  If you both are reasonably bright it does not have to be.  You just agree not to bother each other on that subject and live up to that.  At time of election you could just both take the day off and go mountain climbing or whatever else you both might enjoy.  Your votes would cancel each other on every issue anyhow. 

 

My mom and dad each believed the other canceled their vote.  They never discussed politics with each other.  Both went to the polls together and each voted their own mind.  Happily came home together and went on with their lives.   

 

Now two different religions can be a whole other problem.  If you both believe you belong to the one true faith and both faiths believe all others are doomed to hell, you naturally want to save those you love.  Persistently trying one to save the other does solve the problem -- you get a divorce.   

 

 

An agnostic and a true believer, I think, would have the same problem.


~~  rmac22  ~~

 

An excellent summation, citing parents whom you knew from birth.  I Thank You, for such a wonderful start to an important topic.

 

Yes, there are many couples who think it's best not to talk about politics, but focus instead on the euphoric hormone high, better known as ' chemistry '. 

Albeit a good beginning, we know that it has a tendency, to sometimes fade, with the passage of time.  Apparently, that is when the political differences,  begin to haunt a relationship.

 

Insofar as religious differences are concerned, there are instances where One insists on the Other to convert.

Perhaps those who have experienced such, may enlighten us about it.

 

~~  S L  ~~

 

 

 


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Posted on Apr 28, 2017 at 10:38 AM

Well marrying an arch conservative when you are a flaming liberal can be very contentious.  If you both are reasonably bright it does not have to be.  You just agree not to bother each other on that subject and live up to that.  At time of election you could just both take the day off and go mountain climbing or whatever else you both might enjoy.  Your votes would cancel each other on every issue anyhow. 

 

My mom and dad each believed the other canceled their vote.  They never discussed politics with each other.  Both went to the polls together and each voted their own mind.  Happily came home together and went on with their lives.   

 

Now two different religions can be a whole other problem.  If you both believe you belong to the one true faith and both faiths believe all others are doomed to hell, you naturally want to save those you love.  Persistently trying one to save the other does solve the problem -- you get a divorce.   

 

 

An agnostic and a true believer, I think, would have the same problem.


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