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Posted on Apr 15, 2015 at 01:30 AM

 

How will President Obama go down in History, ... both on the home front and globally ?

 

Although some of you may feel the question is premature, however, with the spotlight now on Hillary Clinton, the global thinking is that Obama’s term is pretty much over.

 

Granted, there could be some unforeseen events during the remainder of his term, that may add to the final consensus.

 

Notwithstanding the foregoing, what are your thoughts if you had to write them today?

 

Thanks for your consideration in history making.

 

**  S L  **


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Posted on Nov 23, 2017 at 01:46 PM

Quoting silverlion:

**  Maryclaire  **

 

Your honesty, in stating that the above quoted opinions are of a third party, is appreciated.  To help you better understand politics, ... They are pretty worthless, based on the following facts :

 

1.  Preisdent Obama was elected into office by diverse citizens, to economically rescue The Country which was in a seriously deep recession, along with it's many related problems.

He successfully accomplished that.

 

The 44th POTUS did Not Campaign, nor was He elected to magically solve a vague and ambiguous " divide " those critics mention.

 

2.  To create Affordable Health Care, was a battle in Capitalist America, coupled with political hurdles from the opposition. 

President Obama's humanitarian efforts and accomplishments in this area , Is A Historical First.

 

For anyone to dis-respect or denounce such, without offering an acceptable practical alternative, is the highest form of insult.

 

3.  To place blame on President Obama for The Syrian Refugee Crisis, simply has No Merit.  The Assad Regime, goes back to 1963, (Barack Obama was 2 years old) when Hafez al-Assad was involved in The Syrian Coup d' Etat that brought The Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party into power.

In a second coup 3 years later, The Ba'ath Party was toppled by a militant Salah Jadid, and in 1970 Assad who was their defence minister, toppled Jadid to gain control as the leader of Syria.

(Barack Obama now 7 years of age)

 

Hafez al-Assad sided with the Soviets in The Cold War, and began " One Man Rule " with a personality cult.

 

Upon Hafez's death in 2000, His Son Bashar succeeded him, to continue as Supreme Leader.

The turmoil from 1963 persisted all along.

 

In 2011, defectors from Assad's military, joined forces with the " Free Syria " Army, causing Bashar's regime to begin killing thousands internally.  Just as in 1982 (Barack Obama 22 yeasr of age) when they massacred over 10 thousand to maintain power.

 

The situation became very complicated, with the joining in of Kurdish Nationals, Hezbollah, Iran, Russia, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Al-Qaida and ISIS over the years.

As you may know, an extremist Iraqi group moved into Syria, creating ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria)

 

Commander in Chief, President Barack Obama did the absolute right thing, Not to intervene militarily, in an extremely volatile and potential World War 111 Situation.   There is No shortage of military arsenal in Syria, due to oil money on the one hand, and Russia on the other.

 

The Middle East Wars, are Not The Responsinility of The U.S.A.

 

Thank You President Obama, for Not Sacrificing A single Life, of Those in Service.

 

Silverlion.

 


i see your point SL with Syria. Truly, Obama was at a crossroad many Presidents face. Obama had already threatened Assad with military action with his use of Chemical Warfare on his citizens- A line drawn in the sand. Obama had no backing from the Allies, and/or the American People. Still, this is a crime against humanity, meant to inflict maximum casualties on Assad's own citizens. There was also talk of creating a NO-Fly Zone over Syria at that time. Given that this would have created another Theater Of Action; It would have opened up targets held by ISIS, and a New, Protracted Conflict Zone for the American Military. I should not have to comment that the Russians were colluding with Assad through this. Assad was,and is just a Chess Piece on the Russian Chessboard. Assad is still on the list for Crimes Against Humanity.

 

On another subject, This Uranium-1 fiasco perpetrated by the extreme Alt-Right against Obama is an attempt to smear Obama's Administration. Truly, under NRC RULES, NO US Uranium was transferred to Russia,or any other Country In The World without an EXPORT LICENSE. Not even Obama could do that, without Severe Scrutiny...http://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/... The US does LICENSE a company in Ontario Canada to upgrade Yellow Cake for US use, separate from Uranium-1. 


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Posted on Nov 22, 2017 at 01:34 PM

Hi Silverlion! Thank you for your welcoming comments :). 

 

I dont mind brainwashed people. It's actually quite fun to pretend to be brainwashed with them. You should try it sometime. Nothin' like water boarding yourself to get extremists to take it down a notch. Tehe. 

 

JoeJoe is welcome to his perspective. It just would've been nice to read some claims supported by sources or even rational elaboration. Unfortunately, JoeJoe's measure of merit is contingent upon one's orifice of preference. 

 

Besides...who wouldnt prefer sword fights over nuclear war?

 

Cheers! It's hump day :). 


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Posted on Nov 22, 2017 at 05:33 AM

Quoting leonicvirgo:

Well...I think the Syrian Pass coupled with the Iran Deal were not long-term solutions...https://www.hoover.org/research/consequences-obamas-weakness... Obama positioned a flotilla of warships off of the East Coast of the Mediterranean. Obama should have rained down Tomahawks on Damascas, and obliterated Assad's capabilities to kill millions of his Citizens with Chemical, as well as other Bombs intended to exert Maximum Destruction, and Casualty counts. Truly, the other Allies, and the American People were not with the US Military on this, But that's a choice the President must make...

The Iran Deal should have been much more stringent. Iran was already under the threat of Israel bombing their Nuclear Production Sites. I wrote in a blog that the Iran Deal should have been over a 72 year period of time. That is 4 Generations, not 1-. What are the intentions of the Iranian's? You Decide...



~~  leonicvirgo  ~~

 

Pardon the delay, while I wallowed in the comments of FJ & Joe, hoping they would seize an opportunity to justify their claims.  But of course, ....

 

Getting back to seriousness, I also spent some time reading through the ' research ' you had mentioned, in the above quote.  It was written in Sept. of 2015, and found a subsequent one, in July of 2016.  They are merely biased opinions, from an established 'conservative' think tank.

 

May I direct you to my post of February 01, 2017 wherein I addressed the Syrian situation with detailed facts.

 

President Obama and The Allies did the prudent thing, as there was no magical ' silver bullet ' panacea, for such complexity.

 

Fact : A summit meeting is taking place today, with all the concerned leaders,  to end The Syrian War.

 

~~  S L  ~~


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Posted on Nov 16, 2017 at 08:03 AM

Quoting gentilily:

Homophobic much?

 

Dont worry, JoeJoe...gay isn't exactly contagious, and neither is black. You can really only catch it if you try really hard OR if you think about it incessantly. So just don't give it too much thought lest wake up one morning a gay black man with a penis twice the size the one you have now. Take it easy, JoeJoe. Take it easy. 



~~  gentilily  ~~

 

I am  R O T F,  L M A O !, ... That is real funny, and Thanks for the post.   It's about time, we had some refreshing new talent here.

 

As You may have noticed, Mr. Ferrari and Joe, appear to be victims of the many political brain-washing material that, is floating in cyber-space.

 

It's kinda tragic in a way, but then again, Comedy is always born from tragedy.

 

Welcome to The Boards,

 

~~  S L  ~~

 

 


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Posted on Nov 15, 2017 at 04:20 AM

Homophobic much?

 

Dont worry, JoeJoe...gay isn't exactly contagious, and neither is black. You can really only catch it if you try really hard OR if you think about it incessantly. So just don't give it too much thought lest wake up one morning a gay black man with a penis twice the size the one you have now. Take it easy, JoeJoe. Take it easy. 


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Posted on Nov 15, 2017 at 04:12 AM

Quoting JoeAAA:

I would like to say that in my opinion he will go down as the worse president ever.  He and his administration, lied, covered up, stone walled every investigation.  He has out right lied to American people numerous times. (If you like your Dr) those were proven lies.  He did nothing for his black race but give them a cell phone and more food stamps.  He is a homosexual that married Michelle, same as Rock Hudson married to cover up his homosexual activities.  The press has covered this up for many yrs.  Google his name and learn the truth.  Google HRCLINTON, she is a Lesbian, this is common knowledge, even bill said she is getting more ----- than him. YOKO Ono said she had sex with her for years, when she was attractive.  Obama legacy.



~~  JoeAAA  ~~

 

Thanks for chiming in, kind Sir.  I notice you are in Stockton, not too far from my ranch in the Central Coast Area.

 

Seeing that you are such a keen information buff, may I inform you of my collection of old fish that, ride bicycles.

 

Oh !, ... Incidentally, my old fish happen to be Koi, and the bikes they love are, the penny-farthing models.

 

Puff, Puff,

 

~~  S L  ~~

 

 


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Posted on Nov 14, 2017 at 03:33 PM

I would like to say that in my opinion he will go down as the worse president ever.  He and his administration, lied, covered up, stone walled every investigation.  He has out right lied to American people numerous times. (If you like your Dr) those were proven lies.  He did nothing for his black race but give them a cell phone and more food stamps.  He is a homosexual that married Michelle, same as Rock Hudson married to cover up his homosexual activities.  The press has covered this up for many yrs.  Google his name and learn the truth.  Google HRCLINTON, she is a Lesbian, this is common knowledge, even bill said she is getting more ----- than him. YOKO Ono said she had sex with her for years, when she was attractive.  Obama legacy.


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Posted on Nov 14, 2017 at 05:08 AM

Historians chimed in on Obama's Presidential Legacy...http://time.com/4632190/historians-obamas-legacy/...with a Snapshot on points they consider important. One must remember that these legacy's are studied for years-even decades, as finer points of a Presidential Admin. are revealed, and these Historians painstakingly try to avoid any individual bias. (:LV1:)


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Posted on Nov 09, 2017 at 11:11 AM

I think that the further away from the Obama Era we get, coupled with the analysis of parts of his 8 years of admin. will show that he had some tough decisions to make, with a Congress impeding him(Gang of 48), much like it is now with the Dem's(Goose-Gander effect). What are the HallMark's of his Admin, both Positive,Negative, and that Grey Area in-between. Historian's have snapshoted Obama as the 12th most distinguished President in History...http://www.businessinsider.com/the-top-​20-presidents-in-us-history-according-to-​historians-2017-2/#20-george-h-w-bush-1... We are in the infant stage of Historical Value. 

 

As to FJ's incendiary comments... He's definitely an Alt-Right Fringe. These type of people rarely do research, and follow whatever demeans the former Admin. He would rather hang onto the STUPID IDEAS of the 40% of VOTERS he aligns himself with. These folks want to charge Obama for TREASON for Uranium-1(GMAB), And all of the LIES that our Current President Perpetuates. How's that Mueller Investigation working out for you,FJ. AYE?...(:LV1:)

 


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Posted on Nov 05, 2017 at 11:22 PM

Quoting FerrariJustin:

Obama is no doubt A) a bastard by birth B) a bastard by character C) a closet Muslim D) the worst US President in US history ... his are crimes of commission the prior titleholder Carter was benign by comparison


~~  FerrariJustin  ~~

 

Sorry for the way you feel, and the subsequent allegations that, you harbor.

 

As a courtesy to All, may I kindly request any facts and or sources You have, in order to validate such claims.

 

Failing which, ...  It shall be noted that, the above quoted allegations are baseless, except for them being Your personal prejudice, whether exclusive or not.

 

~~  S L  ~~


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Posted on Nov 04, 2017 at 04:35 PM

Obama is no doubt A) a bastard by birth B) a bastard by character C) a closet Muslim D) the worst US President in US history ... his are crimes of commission the prior titleholder Carter was benign by comparison

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Posted on Nov 04, 2017 at 03:26 PM

Well...I think the Syrian Pass coupled with the Iran Deal were not long-term solutions...https://www.hoover.org/research/consequences-obamas-weakness... Obama positioned a flotilla of warships off of the East Coast of the Mediterranean. Obama should have rained down Tomahawks on Damascas, and obliterated Assad's capabilities to kill millions of his Citizens with Chemical, as well as other Bombs intended to exert Maximum Destruction, and Casualty counts. Truly, the other Allies, and the American People were not with the US Military on this, But that's a choice the President must make...

The Iran Deal should have been much more stringent. Iran was already under the threat of Israel bombing their Nuclear Production Sites. I wrote in a blog that the Iran Deal should have been over a 72 year period of time. That is 4 Generations, not 1-. What are the intentions of the Iranian's? You Decide...


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Posted on Nov 03, 2017 at 01:47 PM

Quoting leonicvirgo:

Overall, I would say that Obama was faced with many significant major challenges this Country faced, even before he took office in 2009. Obama had to be creative in order to  infuse money back into the Country that it lost(35%) due to the Mortgage/Junk Bond Crisis that hit not only America, but other Major Nations in the coming years. The Rich Players still got richer, as Wallstreet goes, but some gain was put back into the Treasury because of his actions. The 2 wars we were in did not have the backing of the American People, after 12 years of fighting, so Obama tried to wind them down- That was all he could do. 

 

Beside pointing out the definitive actions Obama took to bring the US back from the hole that was dug by Wallstreet, the Auto Industry, and the massive job loss, one usually compares other Administrations to a particular President's Administration. The Great Depression under FDR lasted 10 years. It took WW2 to make America rise from the ashes. Obama brought the economy back from rock bottom in March 2009 in 4-5 years, while trying to scale down Military Actions in Iraq, and Afghanistan. Very few imagined that the former Baath Party extremists of Saddam, the Sunni extremist factions, and Shiite Extremists of Syria would form a coalition as fast, tretcherous, and as far reaching into the Levant, and Northern Iraq. Certainly, the signs were there. Iraq did not have a cohesive National Government and Military to fight against sectarian violence beyond the outskirts of Bagdad. Some blame Obama for scaling down the Coalitions involvment in Iraq's National affairs. I remember the Presidential Debates in 2008, and talk of ending hostilities, and troop withdrawals by 2013- timelines (Obama-Clinton). We must also consider the Egyptian Revolution of 2011 that sent a tidal wave of instability through many Arab Nations. This created a void of continuity from Egypt to Syria, so, many factors caused the rise of ISIL, and splinter Extremists funded by Iran, and the Southern Saudi/Yemen Caliphates(the source of the problem for the last 30-40 years). Obama, the Saudi Gov't, and a coalition of Arab Nations engaged in bombing sorte's, and covert op's to take out these Caliphates, and training camps in South Saudi Arabia, and Yemen(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian-led_intervention_in_Yemen).

 

Even with it's problems, the Healthcare Act still stands, and is still providing healthcare for many Americans that could not, and can not afford a de-regulated, Insurance Ruled Sector of 1/6th of our Economy that will grow due to the Baby Boomers.

 

Obama will be judged by many factors, as is the course of his legacy. Obama did leave us better than he found us in 2009! (:LV1:)



~~  leonicvirgo  ~~

 

You did a great job with that summation, and I thank you for it. 

 

Is there any ' one thing ', you were most disappointed about, during His 2 terms. There may be more than one, but what if any, bothered you the most, and why so ?.

 

Look forward to your valued opinion.

 

~~  S L  ~~


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Posted on Oct 11, 2017 at 09:16 PM

I repeat what I said early on, "He, Obama, is looking better every day Trump is in office." 


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Posted on Oct 11, 2017 at 12:35 PM

Quoting Dolcedileche:

Good afternoon!

 

I am back!! smile

 

This is late but I must say, mon frere, you seriously use facts to back up your political statements. 

 

I only became interesting in international politics after I married (now divorced) a diplomat.  He advised (and my eldest daughter is great at this)to  never engage in a political discussion unless you know and can back up with fact, nor should you ever allow emotions to drive the discussion.

 

Hence, because I have a tendency to become a bit emotionally tied to things, I do not discuss politics.

 

However, I will say this:

 

Image result for picture of american indian crying

Remain blessed.

 

Dolce



~~  Dolcedileche  ~~

 

It appears that, you returned in June, and I was out since April.  So My Dear, we have a little catching up to do, and I apologize for the hiatus.

 

Firstly, Thanks for the compliment regarding ' facts '.  It never ceases to amaze me, as to the many who engage in important discussions without any basis or logic, let alone facts.

 

Nonetheless, it's always best to listen regardless of their claims.  If nothing else, it shows their true character.

 

A lot has happened to President Obama's Legacy, in the recent months.  In keeping with your post quoted above, the saddest of all is the plan to repeal President Obama's signature ' Clean Power Plan ', announced two days ago.

 

" There are not enough tears, to compensate for pure spite ".

 

~~  S L  ~~


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Posted on Jun 20, 2017 at 07:16 PM

Obama came saw he tried he didn't conquer ...that being said he probably did the best he could with what he was given as far the election it was a choice of the lesser of the evils just my opinion...that's the could thing about them they are free and I don't need anyone to agree with or validate them..time will tell for sure

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Posted on Jun 20, 2017 at 11:20 AM

Overall, I would say that Obama was faced with many significant major challenges this Country faced, even before he took office in 2009. Obama had to be creative in order to  infuse money back into the Country that it lost(35%) due to the Mortgage/Junk Bond Crisis that hit not only America, but other Major Nations in the coming years. The Rich Players still got richer, as Wallstreet goes, but some gain was put back into the Treasury because of his actions. The 2 wars we were in did not have the backing of the American People, after 12 years of fighting, so Obama tried to wind them down- That was all he could do. 

 

Beside pointing out the definitive actions Obama took to bring the US back from the hole that was dug by Wallstreet, the Auto Industry, and the massive job loss, one usually compares other Administrations to a particular President's Administration. The Great Depression under FDR lasted 10 years. It took WW2 to make America rise from the ashes. Obama brought the economy back from rock bottom in March 2009 in 4-5 years, while trying to scale down Military Actions in Iraq, and Afghanistan. Very few imagined that the former Baath Party extremists of Saddam, the Sunni extremist factions, and Shiite Extremists of Syria would form a coalition as fast, tretcherous, and as far reaching into the Levant, and Northern Iraq. Certainly, the signs were there. Iraq did not have a cohesive National Government and Military to fight against sectarian violence beyond the outskirts of Bagdad. Some blame Obama for scaling down the Coalitions involvment in Iraq's National affairs. I remember the Presidential Debates in 2008, and talk of ending hostilities, and troop withdrawals by 2013- timelines (Obama-Clinton). We must also consider the Egyptian Revolution of 2011 that sent a tidal wave of instability through many Arab Nations. This created a void of continuity from Egypt to Syria, so, many factors caused the rise of ISIL, and splinter Extremists funded by Iran, and the Southern Saudi/Yemen Caliphates(the source of the problem for the last 30-40 years). Obama, the Saudi Gov't, and a coalition of Arab Nations engaged in bombing sorte's, and covert op's to take out these Caliphates, and training camps in South Saudi Arabia, and Yemen(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian-led_intervention_in_Yemen).

 

Even with it's problems, the Healthcare Act still stands, and is still providing healthcare for many Americans that could not, and can not afford a de-regulated, Insurance Ruled Sector of 1/6th of our Economy that will grow due to the Baby Boomers.

 

Obama will be judged by many factors, as is the course of his legacy. Obama did leave us better than he found us in 2009! (:LV1:)


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Posted on Jun 18, 2017 at 06:25 PM

Good afternoon!

 

@MAC...when I was a child, I remember this commerical about the environment.  When confronted with disrespect for the land, the noble man did not say a word, just allowed a single tear to fall.  The tear is (or should be) visible.  That's the way I feel.  My paternal grandmother (it has been said) was partially native american.  Still searching for verification.  However, no matter!! I have always felt a connection. 

 

Best,

 

Dolce.


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Posted on Jun 18, 2017 at 04:24 PM

@ Dolcedileche

 

 

Interesting picture:  Looks like some of my ancestors.   What are you saying when you say, "However I will say this."  And then immediately followed by that picture.  


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