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Posted on Wed, Apr 15, 2015 01:30 AM

 

How will President Obama go down in History, ... both on the home front and globally ?

 

Although some of you may feel the question is premature, however, with the spotlight now on Hillary Clinton, the global thinking is that Obama’s term is pretty much over.

 

Granted, there could be some unforeseen events during the remainder of his term, that may add to the final consensus.

 

Notwithstanding the foregoing, what are your thoughts if you had to write them today?

 

Thanks for your consideration in history making.

 

**  S L  **


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Posted on Wed, Oct 11, 2017 09:16 PM

I repeat what I said early on, "He, Obama, is looking better every day Trump is in office." 


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Posted on Wed, Oct 11, 2017 12:35 PM

Quoting Dolcedileche:

Good afternoon!

 

I am back!! smile

 

This is late but I must say, mon frere, you seriously use facts to back up your political statements. 

 

I only became interesting in international politics after I married (now divorced) a diplomat.  He advised (and my eldest daughter is great at this)to  never engage in a political discussion unless you know and can back up with fact, nor should you ever allow emotions to drive the discussion.

 

Hence, because I have a tendency to become a bit emotionally tied to things, I do not discuss politics.

 

However, I will say this:

 

Image result for picture of american indian crying

Remain blessed.

 

Dolce



~~  Dolcedileche  ~~

 

It appears that, you returned in June, and I was out since April.  So My Dear, we have a little catching up to do, and I apologize for the hiatus.

 

Firstly, Thanks for the compliment regarding ' facts '.  It never ceases to amaze me, as to the many who engage in important discussions without any basis or logic, let alone facts.

 

Nonetheless, it's always best to listen regardless of their claims.  If nothing else, it shows their true character.

 

A lot has happened to President Obama's Legacy, in the recent months.  In keeping with your post quoted above, the saddest of all is the plan to repeal President Obama's signature ' Clean Power Plan ', announced two days ago.

 

" There are not enough tears, to compensate for pure spite ".

 

~~  S L  ~~


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Posted on Tue, Jun 20, 2017 07:16 PM

Obama came saw he tried he didn't conquer ...that being said he probably did the best he could with what he was given as far the election it was a choice of the lesser of the evils just my opinion...that's the could thing about them they are free and I don't need anyone to agree with or validate them..time will tell for sure

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Posted on Tue, Jun 20, 2017 11:20 AM

Overall, I would say that Obama was faced with many significant major challenges this Country faced, even before he took office in 2009. Obama had to be creative in order to  infuse money back into the Country that it lost(35%) due to the Mortgage/Junk Bond Crisis that hit not only America, but other Major Nations in the coming years. The Rich Players still got richer, as Wallstreet goes, but some gain was put back into the Treasury because of his actions. The 2 wars we were in did not have the backing of the American People, after 12 years of fighting, so Obama tried to wind them down- That was all he could do. 

 

Beside pointing out the definitive actions Obama took to bring the US back from the hole that was dug by Wallstreet, the Auto Industry, and the massive job loss, one usually compares other Administrations to a particular President's Administration. The Great Depression under FDR lasted 10 years. It took WW2 to make America rise from the ashes. Obama brought the economy back from rock bottom in March 2009 in 4-5 years, while trying to scale down Military Actions in Iraq, and Afghanistan. Very few imagined that the former Baath Party extremists of Saddam, the Sunni extremist factions, and Shiite Extremists of Syria would form a coalition as fast, tretcherous, and as far reaching into the Levant, and Northern Iraq. Certainly, the signs were there. Iraq did not have a cohesive National Government and Military to fight against sectarian violence beyond the outskirts of Bagdad. Some blame Obama for scaling down the Coalitions involvment in Iraq's National affairs. I remember the Presidential Debates in 2008, and talk of ending hostilities, and troop withdrawals by 2013- timelines (Obama-Clinton). We must also consider the Egyptian Revolution of 2011 that sent a tidal wave of instability through many Arab Nations. This created a void of continuity from Egypt to Syria, so, many factors caused the rise of ISIL, and splinter Extremists funded by Iran, and the Southern Saudi/Yemen Caliphates(the source of the problem for the last 30-40 years). Obama, the Saudi Gov't, and a coalition of Arab Nations engaged in bombing sorte's, and covert op's to take out these Caliphates, and training camps in South Saudi Arabia, and Yemen(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian-led_intervention_in_Yemen).

 

Even with it's problems, the Healthcare Act still stands, and is still providing healthcare for many Americans that could not, and can not afford a de-regulated, Insurance Ruled Sector of 1/6th of our Economy that will grow due to the Baby Boomers.

 

Obama will be judged by many factors, as is the course of his legacy. Obama did leave us better than he found us in 2009! (:LV1:)


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Posted on Sun, Jun 18, 2017 06:25 PM

Good afternoon!

 

@MAC...when I was a child, I remember this commerical about the environment.  When confronted with disrespect for the land, the noble man did not say a word, just allowed a single tear to fall.  The tear is (or should be) visible.  That's the way I feel.  My paternal grandmother (it has been said) was partially native american.  Still searching for verification.  However, no matter!! I have always felt a connection. 

 

Best,

 

Dolce.


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Posted on Sun, Jun 18, 2017 04:24 PM

@ Dolcedileche

 

 

Interesting picture:  Looks like some of my ancestors.   What are you saying when you say, "However I will say this."  And then immediately followed by that picture.  


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Posted on Sat, Jun 17, 2017 11:26 AM

Good afternoon!

 

I am back!! smile

 

This is late but I must say, mon frere, you seriously use facts to back up your political statements. 

 

I only became interesting in international politics after I married (now divorced) a diplomat.  He advised (and my eldest daughter is great at this)to  never engage in a political discussion unless you know and can back up with fact, nor should you ever allow emotions to drive the discussion.

 

Hence, because I have a tendency to become a bit emotionally tied to things, I do not discuss politics.

 

However, I will say this:

 

Image result for picture of american indian crying

Remain blessed.

 

Dolce


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Posted on Thu, May 11, 2017 01:59 PM

Obama is getting $400,000 for speeches...Not entirely as good as Former President Clinton, but gaining in popularity...


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Posted on Sat, Apr 22, 2017 10:01 PM

Russia stepped in in 2013. Russia, as one might remember; Took all of Assad's Chemical stores, and weapons from the mere premenance that Assad would have Chemical Weapons to reign on any land within Syrian's Border. Obama should have rained 200 Tomahawks on The Assad Regime to, at the least send Assad  a message of Assad's War Crimes , perpetuated on his own people and further instill the idea that Assad was on the path to be Convicted in the World Court of attrositicities against his people in Syria...Russia stood in the way of this, As Did The U.S.Congress, and our Allies who knew a new war was not palatable among U.S., and Allied Nation Citizens...

I guess Obama could have acted then, and asked for forgiveness with Congress, Later. Congress was looking all of Obama's 8 years on impeachment Procedings, but NEVER could find prominance on this, or any other issue.

 

We see that Congress in 2017 passed on admonishing a President for lobbing 60 Tomahawks at Assad. My, How Time, and Congressional Change Changes everything.

Obama learned that even Directives Could be Challanged, and nullified as President. Apparently, someone has not read the MEMO,Yet, in This Administration!


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Posted on Sat, Apr 22, 2017 09:16 PM

I'm an Independent, 12345...I'm A Fence-Rider.If you wish to join me,you might be able to avoid the Sharded Glass from the extreme Right, and Left. Rightly Dividing the Word Of Truth is MY GAME. Any other Fodder in the Wide Field of POLITICAL BS is useless. State your Grievances, or Lie where the BS Lies!


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Posted on Mon, Apr 17, 2017 01:30 AM

Keep drinking that kookaid leon..You are going to need a lot of it as the truth comes out in the years to come.

 


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Posted on Tue, Apr 11, 2017 11:14 PM

Quoting leonicvirgo:

Obama Did Not Tweet on Trivial Matters,Nor Ostrisize himself from either Partisan Aspect's of the House, Senate, Or the Judiciary. He exemplified not only what a Presedent Should Do, But What A President Should Not Do...(:LV1:)



~~  leonicvirgo  ~~

 

Speaking of which, I recall Congress Not approving President Obama's request for permission, to retaliate against Syria's chemical weapon use, back in September of 2013.

 

The above is contrary to the recent 59 cruise missile attacks, in the first week of April 2017.  It appears that, the unilateral ' punishment ', was done Without the consent of The House, Senate or Judiciary.

 

I stand to be corrected.

 

~~  S L  ~~


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Posted on Sat, Apr 01, 2017 03:00 PM

Obama Did Not Tweet on Trivial Matters,Nor Ostrisize himself from either Partisan Aspect's of the House, Senate, Or the Judiciary. He exemplified not only what a Presedent Should Do, But What A President Should Not Do...(:LV1:)


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Posted on Sat, Apr 01, 2017 05:03 AM

Quoting rmac22:

Sorry you had to write it.  One of your best comments.  Guess you know how I feel.  



~~  rmac22  ~~

 

Dittos, dittos and, ... Dittos.

 

May I add that, Lady Diana is one of The Most Compassionate, Brilliant, Informed and Special Ladies, to ever grace this site, and many lives as well.

 

It will be an honor and utmost pleasure, to be Her Campaign Manager in whatever future endeavour, She wishes to pursue.   And, with full respect, thereof.

 

~~  S L  ~~


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Posted on Thu, Mar 30, 2017 06:51 PM

I do think that there are countless items in an 8 year Presidency. I believe that each Major item should be examined for it's truthful positives, No issue, and the negatives of points in Obama's Presidency. There are always, Grey area's between the Positives,and the Negatives. The Major issues are issues several Presidents had to deal with, during their administrations. Take, for instance; Immigration.

Then President Obama issued an Executive Order to provide Temporary Amnesty to illegal immigrants, Due to the Republican Congress's "NO" Vote with anything Obama proposed, and the inability of Congress to propose a solution. Why? Some people have threaded that  Businesses could control both behavior, and wage of illegals, and there are jobs regular Americans would not do, for the proposed wage. The Mayor of Salt Lake City,Utah said on a major talk show that without this workforce, The Olympics could have not been pulled off. Not all illegals are fellons, beyond the idea that they are here illegally.

If Obama's Order would have been followed, I believe that 3.5-6 Million Immigration Applications would have been filed. That means that the IRS would be able to legally take 30% of an applicant's Paycheck, during a process that takes from 5-10 years,usually. There are over 11 million illegals from many nations in this country, now. There are from 4-6 million Dreamers( Anchor Babies coming of the age of 18, or are past that age; or have slipped into the country illegally) here also. Some chose the U.S Millitary as a path to citizenship. Some might say that my estimates are conservative, and that the problem is bigger now, opposed to the time that Obama issued this Executive Order. Keep in mind that ICE could have still been prowling the streets, looking for fellonious illegals, and documenting, and holding illegals they found, for processing. Temporary Amnesty for all;Documenting,and processing for the ones who are caught- A 2-part strategy.

Most would agree that Obama deported more than 2.5 million illegals during his Presidency.....If one accepts that rules of counting, and the definition of an undocumented illegal changed during the Bush Jr. Presidency...(:LV1:)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted on Wed, Mar 29, 2017 07:09 PM

Quoting Diana3316:

Hello SL,

 

It’s so very good to see you!  Unfortunately, I am so despondent I can hardly speak to anyone.  The recent election results have left me feeling angry and disappointed.  I am not so much upset about the election of a crass, bigoted, racist, misogynistic, P-grabbing Cheat…..but rather that 46% of Americans voted for him, despite these known facts about him.  I thought Americans were better than that!  I knew there were some really ignorant people in this country….I just can’t believe there are so many.  They have no moral ground to stand on! 

 

Have you noticed how the Clinton email scandal has just disappeared since the election?   Fox News:  training ignorant Americans to destroy their own country, one false story after another! 

 

The term ‘Ugly American’ has come back to international relevancy.  While you may say I should not paint all who voted for Trump with the same brush…..I say:  Show me your friends and I will know who you are.   They have put a Russian Mole in the American Presidency for God’s sake!  Reagan is likely rolling in his grave!!  I think we should make an update.  Stupid, Ugly Americans.

 

Sorry about hijacking your blog.  You know how I feel about Obama.



Sorry you had to write it.  One of your best comments.  Guess you know how I feel.  


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Posted on Tue, Feb 21, 2017 08:16 AM

Quoting born1top:

Hey Leo, Yes I watched and Melbourne Florida has about 96 thousands residents and 96 % are Caucasian so of course he would be applauded they voted for him it was easy to pick out those small pockets of towns that voted for him. 

 

 

Man what a mess!

 

 Yours truly. 


**  born1top, et al  **

 

Your comment in response to leonicvirgo's post, is hereby acknowledged. 

 

I have refrained from elaborating on it, for the following legitimate reasons :

 

Firstly, This Topic is Exclusive to The History & Legacy of President Obama, and Not The 45th POTUS.

 

More importantly, I shall respect Stan's blog, which was, and might still be,  specific to the current issues, as the appropriate platform.  The disappearance of it is perplexing ?.  I hope it is temporary, and will be re-instated soon.

 

In order to protect this actively acclaimed blog, which was started on April 15, 2015, I believe the best interest is to keep it within the original scope, and away from possible adversarial acts, due to the changing political climate, and emotions.

 

Notwithstanding the foregoing, please feel free to address any and all of your thoughts and feelings, on This Topic, which is ongoing.

 

May I kindly remind You and all other members, that The Legacy of A President, continues after leaving office, and even past the duration of their life.

This important fact, was pointed out by an earlier ' Scholarly Member ', at the debut of this very topic. 

(see Posted on Fri, Apr 17, 2015  07:26)

 

**  S L  **


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Posted on Sun, Feb 19, 2017 08:04 AM

Quoting leonicvirgo:

Sooo...Trump is Campaigning in Melborne, FLA...To get his 40#'s up. He needed to escape the Hound Dog's of D.C. A Seal Team 1 of my friends said that Trump will be impeached less than a year of taking office. Flynn Parroted Trump's message to Putin. The Sanctions will not be lifted. Trump must figure out that there are Superior Powers above his office. Trump is treading on dangerous ground when he plays with the CIA, and other Agencies that have Protected Us for the last 80+ Years!



**  leonicvirgo  **

 

Hi Stan,

 

Good to see you again.  Kindly tell us whatever happened to your blog on the issues quoted above. 

 

I would love to respond to your comment on the current POTUS, that you cite, but prefer to do so in your blog regarding same.

 

Thanks for your understanding, and look forward to the collaboration.

 

**  S L  **


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Posted on Sat, Feb 18, 2017 11:28 PM

Quoting leonicvirgo:

Sooo...Trump is Campaigning in Melborne, FLA...To get his 40#'s up. He needed to escape the Hound Dog's of D.C. A Seal Team 1 of my friends said that Trump will be impeached less than a year of taking office. Flynn Parroted Trump's message to Putin. The Sanctions will not be lifted. Trump must figure out that there are Superior Powers above his office. Trump is treading on dangerous ground when he plays with the CIA, and other Agencies that have Protected Us for the last 80+ Years!



Hey Leo, Yes I watched and Melbourne Florida has about 96 thousands residents and 96 % are Caucasian so of course he would be applauded they voted for him it was easy to pick out those small pockets of towns that voted for him. 

 

 

Man what a mess!

 

 Yours truly. 


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