BEFORE I BEGIN: I want you all to know I'm dying to have the gentlemen in this site prove me wrong, and I'm quite certain I'm not the only one.
Why is it that you hear such nice things about men wanting independent, highly accomplished, smart women but when chosing they always chose the lest threatening, not particularily bright one?
What is it I'm not getting? Are we frightening or is it that they think we're troublesome? I really don't understand this.
What do you, ladies, think?
Gentlemen, what do you have to say for yourselves?
The shallowest form of strength is the weakness of others. Consider all the school house bullies who cave the first time they are punched in the nose. Now unleash a beautiful, intelligent, successful woman on to a puffed up, empty suit of a man. He is easily challenged, outdone, and exposed in the boardroom and the bedroom. There is no where left to hide. That said, I challenge you wonderful ladies to stop dumbing down for mediocrity. The man worthy of your affection will celebrate your strength. Yes, I know...they are few and far between, but what is the alternative?
Sometimes a woman been on her on so long paying the rent, paying her own bills taking care of children making all the decisions for herself and her child/children cooking etc. So when she goes on a date with a good man, now remember a good man knows what he is doing that's what makes him a good man.I mean no good man wantsto date himself. Its ok to be strong and smart but be that outside with ur girl friend's and ur coworkers but not with ur good man. And that is just one point of a 100 to start. Ok one more for u smart girls, ladies, women men also think that if u was really smart u build a house and make sure it is standing up straight, then after that build a handcrafted Mercedes c class, then crush a rock and turn it into a diamond. Oh and by the way create a washer and dryer well we better add the dishwasher and by the way put a tree house for the children with a swing set. Well that was fun. However I do know some ladies that can do those things but it was no fun watcing her out do me in front of my family friends and neighbors. Hey born ask that smart girl of urs cum fix my etc. Then when we do let ya they call us a pimp, or a dog. Who wants pie after that day ends. I love a smart sweet soft but tuff lady well rounded . I love being romantic no matter what we choose to do camping, hiking, horse back riding, traveling at home love and peace at all times... At All Times...
The only men who don't want to be with an accomplished and strong woman is a wimp. Is there nothing more attractive in a woman or a man who stands on their own feet, there for the people in their lives? There is nothing more exciting than a woman standing on her own and joining you or inviting you in with her for me. I'd hope you ladies with the same attitude keep it up wiht the pushing -- like to find more of you.
I see a man wants a successful woman but how to be one if u r under 29yo?
I see aman wants a woman to be able to just go with him on a vacation.. but how to do it if she has a toddler?
I refused to go on a date with a man who said all decisions r only up to him... so maybe he's afraid of a smart woman? i want a good man to contact me.... sometimes it's confusing do u need to enlarge ur boobs so that he will invite u on a date?
Keep hearing this thing and I don't know who is really letting a beautiful woman go because she is beautiful, intelligent and successful. Someone should show a solid scientific study about this...
For my part, intelligent, successful and beautiful women is definitely a number attraction and I can't imagine letting her go because of those things. But for, sure, you the attraction has be mutual. If the woman is intelligent and independant, but all she wants is herself, it ain't different from any man doing the same thing.
I keep hearin about that though honestly its bs to me because id love to meet a highly intelligent/successful woman. For one she can challenge my line of thinkin because i love to speculate. Also for me it dont matter if either me or her is the bread winner i look at it at the end were both bringin something to the table. And i prefer that type of women then the hoodrats anyday
I don't believe that educated and smart men are. Like someone else pointed out, there is a difference between smart and confrontational. Also, to me, smart is also knowing when to defer a point rather than argue it to a point that someone's feelings are hurt.
Also, IMNSHO, just because one has earned a Ph. D. does not mean that they are smart. I have worked throughout my career with many very stupid Ph.D's many in hard sciences.
I myself, having a Ph.D., have been stupid in my choices of women in my life. So, us smart guys can be self-deprecating as well.
When i read this then i think you woman dont have both legs on the ground, im not affarid and dont see this true life in your words, for me it sounds that you look more up to your self instead what you can big IQ and if you are better or what, is about of see and understand the meaning of bee together because be together is not a job it is about the life and love, relaxe together explorer the world together have dinners lay in spoon smile how lucky you are, be with family and no stress, because if you can do that with your partner then it will be strong, instead of an infight of what and who is best, i write this because on so many pages it dosent seems to look after partner but to complain about men what they do wron and dont have and cant do and with theese words you dont get an partner,
Yes i learn people about to be stron be thankfull and believe in yor self and dont always think of your self first but open up so the person has a chance to come to you.
Im not afraid of intelligent woman or smart or how big wallet is, i will see and find out how the person is insiden the heart and mind to be together the sensual feeling and how the perosn can handle real life without money, because the woman who has the heart on the real place will stay even without money or sichness, or if there is a big argue, because at the end the sitiuations the two persons go true will make them stronger, and many i have seen if they dont have sex or get their right and start to cheat and get divorced and after that they see what they have lost, no there is a perosn for all and shall respect eachother, and sometimes it also starts to go wrong because when people date they are not them selfs and have many ideas in head and then the person you meet have allready lost 30%
keep up the good mood i like to see all your different meanings in theese forums, just remember to be yourself :-)
I have 2 PhDs and an IQ of 150 and I have not met a single man in this site who is afraid of my intelligence. It does not matter so much to some men that I am smart (and those are the men that I would never date) but very few men are afraid of my intelligence. Most men in this site are accomplished enough to value a smart woman actually and if you are too smart for a man why would you even want to date him?
I concur!! I have dated VP's, CEO's, Doctors, Lawyers, you name it! I do NOT hold a PhD, etc.. but am BY NO MEANS a "dummy." In fact, I am typically, (if not always) the least successful of the women for the men I date. Note I said, least SUCCESSFUL, not least qualified.
Here is what I have found---
It has nothing to do with how intelligent, opinionated, articulate a woman is ...
It has to do with THE MAN and his ability to "socialize."
There are some men who are afraid of their own shadow! They can't "debate," are extremely "passive" individuals, typically do not hold their own thoughts and hide behind others and they lack ability to handle a woman who has her own opinions that differ from his. Then when confronted, he runs and hides. IN FACT- I have seen this on MM before. HOWEVER, I do not find this a common occurrence on date sites or in real life. Most men are strong enough individuals to speak their minds and stand by their convictions and do not turn "yellow" when asked to explain themselves. But the few spineless "passive" ones? They are the type men who go around "claiming" to be strong minded individuals, yet deep inside they harbour serious emotional issues with an inability to even notice their weaknesses. They cower at any conflict and cannot handle a strong woman who speaks her mind!
Those men must eventually find weak-minded women who do not ruffle their feathers due to their insecurities they fail to recognize, or they end up dying alone.
But, as I said, they are not the norm of what I have dealt with. Most men have strong backbones, regardless of their intelligence! ;)
Additionally, I do not find men intimidated by beauty much either, as may women claim. (Oddly, the bulk of women who claim this are not typically in the top 10, or even 20% of what is deemed "beautiful!" LOL)
Strong men rarely get intimidated, and when they do, it is usually by OTHER MEN and their success!
If you find a man who IS intimidated; chances are, he is a man who holds issue with women or people in general and must find his "strength" by constantly advocating how "intelligent" he is by tossing around his degrees. Or, if on a date site, this type man eventually has several women blocked due to not being able to handle confrontation on any level. These type men OR women, are simply not strong enough individuals to hang with strong minded, articulate, communicative people like me. How do I know? I've dated several doctors and not one felt the need to introduce himself as such or spoke beneath others to prove his "worth." They were just "normal people" who happened to select a career they needed brains and a strong dedication to advance in. THEY WERE COMFORTABLE IN THEIR OWN SKIN...
Well, I'm quite intelligent, but when I fall in love....I can be the most stupid blond ever....It's like my IQ drops by 50....leaving me behind with just a bunch of dumb things to say....and I'm not even clever enough to shut my mouth....
CHERRYPOPS!! If that isn't the TRUTH OF THE MATTER!!
Cracking up here.. It's like looking in a mirror!!
I can't speak for all the other guys out there. I can, however, say that most of the intelligent women I have sent messages to don't seem to realize what they are turning down. I ommitted a lot of information from my profile in order to give direction for some conversation to start. Most have looked at stats and said "We are not a match." I would pose this question in rebuttal to yours.
Why do smart women think that they need a perfect match to be happy?
In my opinion, they are overanalyzing the details.