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Posted on Wed, Jul 06, 2011 08:17

Carl Jung once said, "A particularly beautiful woman is a source of terror. As a rule, a beautiful woman is a terrible disappointment. "  What do you think he meant by that?



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Posted on Sun, Apr 28, 2013 10:30

Checking in to see if there are more thoughts on this.



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Posted on Sat, Sep 15, 2012 17:44

My guess is that Jung was differentiating his feelings or opinions about a beautiful woman versus a particulary beautiful woman.  When a man seeks a woman because she is beautiful, his fantasy and illusion of her may be disappointing when he learns that her personality and character are not equal to her physical beauty.  But a particularly beautiful woman is one that he does deem beautiful inside and out...she has power over him because he succumbs to her in every way. He wants her, needs her and desires her. He must have her.  She is like an elixir! Therefore, he is bewitched! This I believe is terrifying to a man!



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Posted on Mon, Aug 20, 2012 10:47

I think what Jung meant was that if beauty is her only tool... if she relies solely on her looks and never develops other essential tools such as compassion, empathy, tolerance etc... but instead learns to expect to be catered to simply because she is beautiful, she will ultimately be a terror.
Men require simplicity, a terror is not simple. Eventually a cycle will develop wherein the more she demands, the more the man seeks simplicity, the more she demands the more the man seeks simplicity.
There are many, many beautiful women who are the total package but, unfortunately, there are many more who are not.



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Posted on Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:59

@ Orlando
I think it's great to bring some of these questions back so others can comment.  I have to admit when I made my comments I had many more brain cells working than I do now.  So I have nothing further to add.  Except, I would really like to know where do you find the time.  I am definitely impressed.   Well, actually I was impressed long before now.  Keep up the great work.



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Posted on Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:37

Just following up to see if there are more thoughts out there.



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Posted on Fri, Dec 02, 2011 08:13

machevilli, very thoughtful and intelligent response.



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Posted on Mon, Jul 18, 2011 13:54

so i'm only ONE beauty who's everything a man dreams about.



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Posted on Sun, Jul 17, 2011 09:47

Quoting 7Destiny:

It makes me a little sad to hear all these generalizations about beautiful women- like they are some kind of alien creature.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder- and yet there are some people who are agreed to be more beautiful than others. Yet aren't these judgments skin deep? I am concerned that we are turning these so-called beautiful women into objects and then projecting our own values on them.



I do agree with your comments, it is one of the points that Jung was making. While I am no expert on Jung, in fact, many of those cloest to him, had some difficulty with his thoughts and ideas.

Turning women into objects is what many men do, one of the reasons for this is that some men live in fear, not fear of women but fear of themselves.

Men will project values, and qualities onto a women that almost never corresponds to reality. Jung said, "Every healthy man wants a beautiful woman for a wife".

Because men project, he imagines that the woman possess those traits, and qualities beyond those attainable by "ordinary" women.

Of course, this is unrealistic is the any wonder that when men come back down to the real world, their disappointment, until the next beautiful woman comes along.

I must emphasize that I'm speaking in general terms. Again, your point was well taken, there were many generalizations about beautiful women.

The other point I made about mans fear, deals with a host of issues. Speaking in broad terms, men generally have some difficulty with self exaimination, intuition, and insight. Perhaps, it was a carryover from when he was a hunter gatherer, and he was responsible for being the provider, hence no time for reflecting, as it only slowed you down when you were chasing your next meal.

Having said all that I think the majority of men today are more aware of women as individuals. However, the media, corporate world continues to exploit women as objects, so obviously we still have a long way to go.

It is a sad fact, because we all have mothers, daughters, sisters etc, so the cause of not treating women as objects is a noble one.



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Posted on Fri, Jul 15, 2011 21:07

It makes me a little sad to hear all these generalizations about beautiful women- like they are some kind of alien creature.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder- and yet there are some people who are agreed to be more beautiful than others. Yet aren't these judgments skin deep? I am concerned that we are turning these so-called beautiful women into objects and then projecting our own values on them.



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Posted on Sat, Jul 09, 2011 23:51

I think beautiful women know that they are beautiful.
The also need to be told often how beautiful they are
The tend to spend inordinate amounts of money on make up, botox, clothing , shoes,manicures, pedicures, beauty salons, shoes, etc. to maintain the image.
They lack confidence and usually feel that is the only thing they have going for them.
They are financially and emotionally very high maintenance
I will take attractive, intelligent,productive, caring, loving, attentive, spiritual, sensual, healthy, and fit over High maintenance every time. They are just not worth the work you have to put in to keep them happy.



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Posted on Sat, Jul 09, 2011 22:11

Jung was such a prolific writer it is a little difficult, perhaps more than a little, for me to say what he meant by this statement. I suspect that he was speaking from his own personal experience as the statement does not reflect much of what he had to say about woman in general. Jung said the following "A woman is and always has been a source of information about things for which man has no eyes. She can be his inspiration, her intuitive capacity, often superior to man's can give him timely warning, and her feelings always directed towards the personal can show him ways which his own less personally accented feelings would never have discovered."

Perhaps the terror comes from feelings of inadequacies and/or projections about someone that falls short of our ideal. What terror there is, whatever the disappointment it is a matter of preception. At the end of the day our preceptions our experience of the world is not necessarily the way it really is at least in my opinion.



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Posted on Sat, Jul 09, 2011 21:36

Prehaps he meant....all beauty and no brains. Often, women have nothing to offer but their beauty.



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Posted on Sat, Jul 09, 2011 19:28

Quoting Hoping4Love2000:

NGL2011...

HI there..

GOTCHA! Thank goodness.. I thought I was gonna havta fire up my broom and get out a can of "da whoop a**!" LOLOLOL .. ("Hoping" is "hoping" ppl get her humor here!)

Yes I AGREE.. When ppl make such statements as this.. and generalize others in this manner... they do not give others credit for being their own individuals...

Wonder who the beautiful women was that jilted him leaving him so bitter??? Hmmmm... LOL



Hoping,

Just be careful when you open the can of whoop*** some of us might enjoy it ! ;)



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Posted on Sat, Jul 09, 2011 08:45

NGL2011...

HI there..

GOTCHA! Thank goodness.. I thought I was gonna havta fire up my broom and get out a can of "da whoop a**!" LOLOLOL .. ("Hoping" is "hoping" ppl get her humor here!)

Yes I AGREE.. When ppl make such statements as this.. and generalize others in this manner... they do not give others credit for being their own individuals...

Wonder who the beautiful women was that jilted him leaving him so bitter??? Hmmmm... LOL



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Posted on Fri, Jul 08, 2011 04:57

Quoting Hoping4Love2000:

HI NGL2011... Don't think we've met yet! I'm HOPING!!

I woud have to politely disagree as when one makes a statement and uses the words "as a rule" and "terrible disappointment" in same sentence.... he obviously was clumping them all together...NO???

Question for you....

When you say you know several it applies to.. are you saying you don't know several "less attractive" women it applies to? I mean.. don't we ALL know skinny people, fat people, blondes, brunettes, people of all races.. that encompass EVERYTHING?? What makes one think because one woman is considered "less attractve" than another by THE WORLDS standards.. that the less attractive woman has better shot at developing more of what matters? I have met many less attractive women who have developed awful traits like jealousy and vindictiveness in my time and I have suffered due to "their" issues... which had nothing to do with my "level" or "lack of" attractiveness..

In stating this.. I have also met some beautiful women who suffered the same awful traits.. Get my point? ....?? Anybody??




Hoping,

I was just giving my opinion on what I thought he meant,, NOT what I think or feel as an individual.

I personally feel that anyone who paints with broad brush strokes is an idiot. Its like saying, all people who live in Trailers are ***** or all Blondes are **** or all rich people have class etc.. It just doesn't make any sense to me why some people do that.



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Posted on Thu, Jul 07, 2011 21:29

HI NGL2011... Don't think we've met yet! I'm HOPING!!

I woud have to politely disagree as when one makes a statement and uses the words "as a rule" and "terrible disappointment" in same sentence.... he obviously was clumping them all together...NO???

Question for you....

When you say you know several it applies to.. are you saying you don't know several "less attractive" women it applies to? I mean.. don't we ALL know skinny people, fat people, blondes, brunettes, people of all races.. that encompass EVERYTHING?? What makes one think because one woman is considered "less attractve" than another by THE WORLDS standards.. that the less attractive woman has better shot at developing more of what matters? I have met many less attractive women who have developed awful traits like jealousy and vindictiveness in my time and I have suffered due to "their" issues... which had nothing to do with my "level" or "lack of" attractiveness..

In stating this.. I have also met some beautiful women who suffered the same awful traits.. Get my point? ....?? Anybody??



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Posted on Thu, Jul 07, 2011 19:34

I don't really think it applies to all beautiful women, but I do know several it applies to. I think what he is saying is that men would be wiser, to consider the less than perfect woman, as she may have developed the more important aspects of her personality and character.



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Posted on Thu, Jul 07, 2011 12:48

I think for someone who was so successful, he sounds like he "grouped" all women w/ raving beauty in one socket and forgot he was a psycologist who should know better than this.. What we have endured and how our heart reads makes us... What is on the outside is only how it was packaged!!

I've known "Beautiful women w/ beautiful hearts"

"Beautiful women w/ ugly hearts"

I've also known...

"Not so attractive women with beautiful hearts"

and "Not so attractive women with even uglier hearts."

Sounds to me he had a kind of ugly heart... to match his assh*le statement.....

Kind of like thinking all blondes are dumb.... :)

HI Orlando! Have a great day!! I call it as I see it! BUT TRY NOT TO CATEGORIZE ME AS "OPINIONATED".... I'm more partial to the term... "EXPRESSIVE!!" HeeHee~~



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