Ok, I spoke to few people and now I know
why so many women are single...lol,,, Go figure, the way I am seeing with these conversation, most of these guys looking for free ride, what the hell is that? can somebody explain to me what happen to gentlemen? what happen to love? what happen to have heart, what I see and hear is all about S** , please somebody tell me I am wrong and tell me actually nice guys are out there.
BlueEyz, you are a rare man out in CA. You are most definitely in the wrong state for being a true nice guy.
Okay, I'm calling for you and all other nice guys to move east (or north, depending where you are)! Sunshine, bring them with you and 'chute them down on your way to FL (right?). Okay, pick one for yourself. The women will appreciate you much more.
Don't believe all those weather reports you hear. The coldest it gets here is 40 degrees, swear. The pics you see of those "blizzards" are from a fabricated on a back lot of a Hollywood movie set.
Red, good call, I'm a transplant to CA: originally from Boston and after 17 moves I've lived in Chicago, Connecticut, Michigan, North Carolina, Indiana, Texas, Oklahoma and ultimately gorgeous Santa Barbara [dad was climbing the corporate ladder - retired from Pepsi as a VP and now he works at one of my companies]. I've lived in negative 40 degree weather and borne some of the hottest days in Texas -- CA is a great balance of the two. Nice guys are everywhere but we need your help to open up since we take our cues from you (in person, not online, easy to open up here). I'm sure if you smile as much as in your photo and if you bring your personality through to the guys around you, you'll have them lined up.
Sorry to take so long to respond, blueeEyz. You are hereby granted a permanent teaching position with our soon-to-be-founded institute! Okay, we'll let DanDaring teach too.
I knew you had to be a transplant. They don't grow them like you in CA....and I speak from having lived there (SF Bay Area). You lived similiarly to me, under different circumstances (my dad was in the military so we moved a lot).
Thanks for the compliment....As Popeye says, "iyamwhatiyam' and in techno-speak, WYSIWYG. Lines are easily formed. It's not that difficult to bring out someone who is a bit more shy than myself....as we all know, it's finding just that one person that makes the challenge.
xxxRomeo write: Ya know why im on here!!! Cuz IM the last nice guy!!! I always finish LAST!!! - To every guy that's said, "Sex can wait." - To every guy that's said, "You're beautiful." - To every guy that was never too busy to drive across town to see her. - To every guy that gives flowers and a card when she is sick. - To every guy who has given her flowers just because. - To every guy that said he would die for her. - To every guy that really would. - To every guy that did what she wanted to do. - To every guy that regrets hurting her. - To every guy that cried in front of her. - To every guy that she cried in front of. - To every guy that holds hands with her. - To every guy that kisses her with meaning. - To every guy that hugs her when she's sad. - To every guy that hugs her for no reason at all. - To every guy who would give their jacket up. - To every guy that calls to make sure she got home safe. - To every guy that would sit and wait for her for hours just to be able to see her for ten minutes. - To every guy that would give his seat up. - To every guy that just wants to cuddle with his special movie partner. - To every guy that reassured her that she was beautiful no matter what... because he believes in her. - To every guy who told his secrets and fears to her. - To every guy that tried to show how much he cared through every word and every breath. - To every guy that thought maybe this could be the one. - To every guy that believed in her dreams. - To every guy that would have done anything so she could achieve them. - To every guy that never laughed at her when she told him her dreams. - To every guy that walked her to her car. - To every guy that wasn't just trying to get LAID!!!! - To every guy that actually listened.
*****TO EVERY GUY THAT PRAYS THAT SHE IS HAPPY EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT WITH HER.*****
This one is for you...
Not all girls appreciate us nice guys. There's not many left out there.... BUT WE WILL FIND THAT ONE!!!!
RapturousRed write: OMG, Sunshine! When you said mailorderman flew the coop, I thought you just meant we hadn't heard from him in a bit, but I see he's removed all his posts! What the heck happened there?! Oh, the mysteries of the disappearing man....but that requires a entirely different educational institute...One that, I'm afraid would have intermittent attendance...lol...
BlueEyz, you are a rare man out in CA. You are most definitely in the wrong state for being a true nice guy.
Okay, I'm calling for you and all other nice guys to move east (or north, depending where you are)! Sunshine, bring them with you and 'chute them down on your way to FL (right?). Okay, pick one for yourself. The women will appreciate you much more.
Don't believe all those weather reports you hear. The coldest it gets here is 40 degrees, swear. The pics you see of those "blizzards" are from a fabricated on a back lot of a Hollywood movie set.
Red, good call, I'm a transplant to CA: originally from Boston and after 17 moves I've lived in Chicago, Connecticut, Michigan, North Carolina, Indiana, Texas, Oklahoma and ultimately gorgeous Santa Barbara [dad was climbing the corporate ladder - retired from Pepsi as a VP and now he works at one of my companies]. I've lived in negative 40 degree weather and borne some of the hottest days in Texas -- CA is a great balance of the two. Nice guys are everywhere but we need your help to open up since we take our cues from you (in person, not online, easy to open up here). I'm sure if you smile as much as in your photo and if you bring your personality through to the guys around you, you'll have them lined up.
Mailorder aspires to run for public office on the eastside (of Seatown). How his presence on MM would not enhance his political career...I have no idea! LOL
Right now I have found some nice friends, male and female. When the time is right, Mr Right or Mr You-might-do will show up as he always does, when I am not looking. So ladies, with my best, please feast (like tigresses) upon these fine men. My that did sound dirty. Oh well. Did I tell you I am a water tiger according to the Chinese zodiac?
BluEyz with a redhead, I can assure you you will never lack for warmth. Perhaps a pair of asbestos gloves would be a worthy purchase!
OMG, Sunshine! When you said mailorderman flew the coop, I thought you just meant we hadn't heard from him in a bit, but I see he's removed all his posts! What the heck happened there?! Oh, the mysteries of the disappearing man....but that requires a entirely different educational institute...One that, I'm afraid would have intermittent attendance...lol...
BlueEyz, you are a rare man out in CA. You are most definitely in the wrong state for being a true nice guy.
Okay, I'm calling for you and all other nice guys to move east (or north, depending where you are)! Sunshine, bring them with you and 'chute them down on your way to FL (right?). Okay, pick one for yourself. The women will appreciate you much more.
Don't believe all those weather reports you hear. The coldest it gets here is 40 degrees, swear. The pics you see of those "blizzards" are from a fabricated on a back lot of a Hollywood movie set.
seattlesunshine write: Mailorder flew the coop, so BluEyz, you are stuck with us chickens.
SeattleSun, there are surely worse fates. As to becoming your instructor per RaptRed, I do teach currently but in reading your syllabus on tantra, 4play, machinery and other such topics, I fear this flock of chickens is more like a den of tigresses and I'm sure I could learn as much as teach. I guess that's another myth to bust: - Nice guys lack sexual prowess or adventure
yes, the bad boy syndrome is a myth. It is just the nice guys aren't gonna walk up to the women and brag about. There is a bit of taoism that alludes that when you can walk the walk, you don't have to talk the talk...
Finishing is much like laughing... and as the saying goes "He who finishes last, finishes harder!", but I guess in older life, it takes us guys a little longer to laugh again! :o)
seattlesunshine write: Mailorder flew the coop, so BluEyz, you are stuck with us chickens.
SeattleSun, there are surely worse fates. As to becoming your instructor per RaptRed, I do teach currently but in reading your syllabus on tantra, 4play, machinery and other such topics, I fear this flock of chickens is more like a den of tigresses and I'm sure I could learn as much as teach. I guess that's another myth to bust: - Nice guys lack sexual prowess or adventure
That's the idea, blueEyz - we all learn!
As for the 'nice guys lack sexual prowess or adventure', I will only say in my nice guy experience, they do finish last....which is as it should be in this area, yes?!
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seattlesunshine write: Mailorder flew the coop, so BluEyz, you are stuck with us chickens.
SeattleSun, there are surely worse fates. As to becoming your instructor per RaptRed, I do teach currently but in reading your syllabus on tantra, 4play, machinery and other such topics, I fear this flock of chickens is more like a den of tigresses and I'm sure I could learn as much as teach. I guess that's another myth to bust: - Nice guys lack sexual prowess or adventure
RapturousRed write: Okay, new course...this one for the ladies: "How To Accept the "Nice" Guy". May be beneficial, so many woman forget the value of the "nice guy"...
Many myths to be destroyed, such as: 1.He must have an agenda if he's being nice 2. He's ugly 3. He can't dance 4. He doesn't know when - or how - to let loose 5. He doesn't know how to seduce a woman 6. You are destined to live (or play second fiddle) with his mother.
And for some women, to learn: 5. How to accept a compliment. 6. How to let a man be a gentleman without losing your individuality. 7. Just because he's nice doesn't mean he wants to marry you tomorrow. 8. How to let the nice guy know it's okay to be a little naughty.
Okay, nice guy teachers, what else do we need to shatter about you?!
Move over Dr. Laura, there's a new Sherriff in town - this is extremely well put and it's probably the real reason a lot of nice guys are afraid to act that way. Have you seen "Swingers"? Remember when all the other guys kept telling John Favara not to call the girl for at least 3 days but he was so excited he called her and blew it? He was probably thinking she believed the myths you listed. I think you really hit the nail on the head with your list but I'd propose a few other misconceptions:
- Nice guys are boring. - Nice guys let others walk all over them. - Nice guys won't understand if you've been not so nice in the past
Now, two more tips:
- Stop worrying that he's too good to be true and learn to trust yourself - Remember that you deserve to be with a nice guy
Blue, you're officially signed up as a an instructor! Thanks for adding to the list - excellent points to address.
I've never seen the "Swingers' show, sorry, can't relate exactly. But, like Katie, I'm a nice guy woman myself. Married one and the longest relationships since divorce have been with the "nice guy" type (although I have a sis who also adds to that, tall, "geeky"..lol).
Perhaps we need an exchange program for the nice guy so they understand that those who choose to buy into the
"Don't call for three or more days after what seemed to be a mutually good date myth pays off" theory, also understand the response of "Who is this?" or, "I'm sorry, I'm busy that day...oh, that one too...ooohh, that one I've a wedding....oh, let me get back with you" response.
Move over Dr. Laura, there's a new Sherriff in town - this is extremely well put and it's probably the real reason a lot of nice guys are afraid to act that way. Have you seen "Swingers"? Remember when all the other guys kept telling John Favara not to call the girl for at least 3 days but he was so excited he called her and blew it? He was probably thinking she believed the myths you listed. I think you really hit the nail on the head with your list but I'd propose a few other misconceptions:
- Nice guys are boring. - Nice guys let others walk all over them. - Nice guys won't understand if you've been not so nice in the past
Now, two more tips:
- Stop worrying that he's too good to be true and learn to trust yourself - Remember that you deserve to be with a nice guy
Two of my greatest loves were nice guys! One was a big, handsome goof and another was a slightly paunchy, balding guy who just made my knees weak because he was a commander in the Armed Forces and had the confidence to fill the role. He was the sexiest man I've ever known.
But Blue, I've got to tell you ... if I like a man and he indicates he likes me ... and he doesn't call me for three days after our first date, without telling me that's what he's going to do ... that just burns my socks! lol
I mean, what's that supposed to be? Playing hard to get? There's the risk that the woman will say, "I don't hear from you for three days? Then, bu-bye! I'll find somebody whose easier to get!" LOL
The first thing I think when a man doesn't call to at least say he had a great time, is, "He hasn't called! It's been more than 3 days! He probably moved on to the next one already. Well, I can do that too!"
Then when I finally DO get a call from him, I think, "What happened? Did all the other girls you were checking out give you the heave ho?"
I must admit though, If there's a mutual attraction and the object of my interest TELLS me he will call me in three days, the anticipation is intense! But God help him if he doesn't call after the three days! LOL
Some men may say they're just "playing hard to get." Some women may just call him a "player." And we ALL keep away from those!
RapturousRed write: Okay, new course...this one for the ladies: "How To Accept the "Nice" Guy". May be beneficial, so many woman forget the value of the "nice guy"...
Many myths to be destroyed, such as: 1.He must have an agenda if he's being nice 2. He's ugly 3. He can't dance 4. He doesn't know when - or how - to let loose 5. He doesn't know how to seduce a woman 6. You are destined to live (or play second fiddle) with his mother.
And for some women, to learn: 5. How to accept a compliment. 6. How to let a man be a gentleman without losing your individuality. 7. Just because he's nice doesn't mean he wants to marry you tomorrow. 8. How to let the nice guy know it's okay to be a little naughty.
Okay, nice guy teachers, what else do we need to shatter about you?!
Move over Dr. Laura, there's a new Sherriff in town - this is extremely well put and it's probably the real reason a lot of nice guys are afraid to act that way. Have you seen "Swingers"? Remember when all the other guys kept telling John Favara not to call the girl for at least 3 days but he was so excited he called her and blew it? He was probably thinking she believed the myths you listed. I think you really hit the nail on the head with your list but I'd propose a few other misconceptions:
- Nice guys are boring.
- Nice guys let others walk all over them.
- Nice guys won't understand if you've been not so nice in the past
Now, two more tips:
- Stop worrying that he's too good to be true and learn to trust yourself
- Remember that you deserve to be with a nice guy
Okay, new course...this one for the ladies: "How To Accept the "Nice" Guy".
May be beneficial, so many woman forget the value of the "nice guy"...
Many myths to be destroyed, such as:
1.He must have an agenda if he's being nice
2. He's ugly
3. He can't dance
4. He doesn't know when - or how - to let loose
5. He doesn't know how to seduce a woman
6. You are destined to live (or play second fiddle) with his mother.
And for some women, to learn:
5. How to accept a compliment.
6. How to let a man be a gentleman without losing your individuality.
7. Just because he's nice doesn't mean he wants to marry you tomorrow.
8. How to let the nice guy know it's okay to be a little naughty.
Okay, nice guy teachers, what else do we need to shatter about you?!
mailorderman write: Oh, so true, So maybe we should train you ladies to be a little more of a bad girl for us nice guys!! LOL
If you insist. Will you be conducting your training at BCC or the Experimental College?
Oooo It has to be the Experimental College.. All the way!! There you are only bound by the limits of your imaginations
Hi there mailor, long time. I can assure you my imagination can imagine the unimaginable....
Hey Glenna, hope all is well... Okay Red, Seduction 101.. I can teach Romance & four play 204..
Ahh, but won't it take to instructors to teach 4play? I know this could be tough assignment, but okay, I'll volunteer. lol
Great Red because students need visuals. They will learn faster and retain the information if you use a variety of teaching implements. Or machinery. I suspect that will be a very popular class!
Do you think anyone would be interested in Tantric 101? Am working on my handouts this morning... That's more of a mind expansion class, rather than a bad girl class. If you all veto it, I'll find something else!
Tantric 101 will be a requisite course for all men!
Don't forget that we'll have lab sessions in the evening as well
Ok, making notes...a separate lab in the evenings. Others stating incorporating the labs into the class will be too noisy and distracting. Got it!
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