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Who's the bigger liar; Men or Women??
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Posted on Tue, Mar 21, 2006 21:39

I hate to be the one to start such a controversial topic but I really need this thread to keep my membership in the Man Club active. I've noticed that alot of women have spoken out about the dishonesty of men. Their complaints are valid. However, as a man who has witnessed women commit many more serious acts of dishonesty, I feel the need to level the playing field, so I have composed a small list of lies that are frequently told by women.

1)"I'm ___ years old"
2)"No, I don't mind if you go hangout with the guys"
3)"This is just the most precious baby I've ever seen "
4)"I'll call you"
5)"Yes, these are real"
6)"It's not you, it's me"
7)"I don't usually do this"
8)"I'm on the pill"
9)"We should get together somtimes"
10)"Nothing's wrong"
11)"I'm not really hungy"
12)"It's your baby"
13)"I have a headache"
14)"Of course, I trust you"
15)"He's just a friend"
16)"What, this old thing?"
17)"Let's be friends"
18)"I'm just going to pick up a few items"
19)I'll be ready in ____ minutes
20)"I don't have a thing to wear"

Now, you tell me who's the bigger liar. If you still aren't convinced that women are bigger liars. Then explain why women always catch men in their lies, while men on the other hand, rarely even no whether or not a woman is lying. In fact, women are such good liars that they plan their lies and can bail each other out in a pinch. While men tell spur of the moment lies and will almost always mess up his buddies lie if interrogated by his buddy's lady.



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Posted on Fri, Apr 14, 2006 08:32

Altruisticman write:
I hate to be the one to start such a controversial topic but I really need this thread to keep my membership in the Man Club active. I've noticed that alot of women have spoken out about the dishonesty of men. Their complaints are valid. However, as a man who has witnessed women commit many more serious acts of dishonesty, I feel the need to level the playing field, so I have composed a small list of lies that are frequently told by women.

1)"I'm ___ years old"
2)"No, I don't mind if you go hangout with the guys"
3)"This is just the most precious baby I've ever seen "
4)"I'll call you"
5)"Yes, these are real"
6)"It's not you, it's me"
7)"I don't usually do this"
8)"I'm on the pill"
9)"We should get together somtimes"
10)"Nothing's wrong"
11)"I'm not really hungy"
12)"It's your baby"
13)"I have a headache"
14)"Of course, I trust you"
15)"He's just a friend"
16)"What, this old thing?"
17)"Let's be friends"
18)"I'm just going to pick up a few items"
19)I'll be ready in ____ minutes
20)"I don't have a thing to wear"

Now, you tell me who's the bigger liar. If you still aren't convinced that women are bigger liars. Then explain why women always catch men in their lies, while men on the other hand, rarely even no whether or not a woman is lying. In fact, women are such good liars that they plan their lies and can bail each other out in a pinch. While men tell spur of the moment lies and will almost always mess up his buddies lie if interrogated by his buddy's lady.


I got a headache just reading all this verbiage.
Give me a break...you don't think we women have heard those exact lines coming out of the mouths of men? With the exception of #8 "I'm on the pill." No he'd probably say, "I've been fixed!" lmao



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Posted on Thu, Apr 13, 2006 20:18

Welcome to the newcomer from the NY.

Rob, it's definitely a wash.

  


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Posted on Wed, Apr 12, 2006 23:29

I think the biggest liar is niether. They say the average person tells about 13 lies per day . (Believe me i'm still looking for the moron who took this survey) Anyway let's get to the root of the problem here. The source of a lie is fear. Fear of rejection is the #1 reason why people lie when they date.
It's what the person feels insecure about themselves that causes them to lie in the first place.

Now let's have some fun with Altruisticman's lies and really break them down...

1)"I'm ___ years old"
Insecurity and fear.

2)"No, I don't mind if you go hangout with the guys"
I would rather you stay home or do something with me.

3)"This is just the most precious baby I've ever seen "
This is a really ugly kid! What the heck where those two thinking about?

4)"I'll call you"
A nice way of saying goodbye. Or they
just have the other guy on hold, trying to get you off the phone.

5)"Yes, these are real"
Not a lie at all. Just the classic case
of Schizophrenia. Run like hell!

6)"It's not you, it's me"
I really want to kill you! I dont't want to hurt your feelings or i rather take the blame instead of telling you how i really feel.

7)"I don't usually do this"
I'm really a nympho. I just don't want you to think i'm easy. I have a ton of guys i talk to or having sex with. I just don't want you to know, you may be the one. Look out for this too! I'm not online all the time or this site.

8)"I'm on the pill"
Ok let me trap him! I just hope i don't have to be on the Maury show one day.

9)"We should get together somtimes"
Altruisticman your either a mackdaddy or telling a lie here man. lol Cause i don't have any woman show me love like that. Please pass me whatever your drinking dude lol.

10)"Nothing's wrong"
I need to really tell you something.

11)"I'm not really hungy"
I just don't want to eat in front of you.

12)"It's your baby"
I'm really gonna stay out of this one guys! I'm pleading the 5th.

13)"I have a headache"
Can you please leave. I'm bored. Your not interesting. I can't believe i went out with this guy. No you can't have any go to bed.

14)"Of course, I trust you"
Hey daddy he's gone are you coming over?

15)"He's just a friend"
That's a guy that does something for me you can't. It's none of your business.

16)"What, this old thing?"
I went to ten stores to find this outfit
so i can impress you. You better had noticed.

17)"Let's be friends"
A kind way of saying you suck in bed.
You have been categorize least likely to be a longterm mate. Just let it go.

18)"I'm just going to pick up a few items"
She's gonna bring back the whole store.

(19)I'll be ready in ____ minutes
3 hrs and 28 minutes later....
I'll be ready in ____ minutes dear!

20)"I don't have a thing to wear"
Shush! Not a word. Just give her the credit card man.

If what i'm saying is true. Its' due to my understanding of women. I always believe the best way to get along with a woman is to listen.

If you believe what i said was not true
well...This was strictly for entertainment purposes only. And if you really don't believe me, "Altruisticman made me do it!"

Like i said before, "Niether is the biggest liar."

As Oscar Wilde once wrote "Creative minds are known to survive"

The End



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Posted on Tue, Apr 11, 2006 08:49

Altruisticman write:
TallBlonde50 write:
Altruistic, what a great scoreboard, and yes, if they score a big "0", that is expected!!! LOL

lol with you tallblonde


So is a zero better than being a negative number? Or is it a wash??? LOL



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Posted on Mon, Apr 10, 2006 13:45

TallBlonde50 write:
Altruistic, what a great scoreboard, and yes, if they score a big "0", that is expected!!! LOL

lol with you tallblonde



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Posted on Sat, Apr 08, 2006 04:55

so I have composed a small list of lies that are frequently told by women.

1)"I'm ___ years old"
2)"No, I don't mind if you go hangout with the guys"
3)"This is just the most precious baby I've ever seen "
4)"I'll call you"
5)"Yes, these are real"
6)"It's not you, it's me"
7)"I don't usually do this"
8)"I'm on the pill"
9)"We should get together somtimes"
10)"Nothing's wrong"
11)"I'm not really hungy"
12)"It's your baby"
13)"I have a headache"
14)"Of course, I trust you"
15)"He's just a friend"
16)"What, this old thing?"
17)"Let's be friends"
18)"I'm just going to pick up a few items"
19)I'll be ready in ____ minutes
20)"I don't have a thing to wear"

Now, you tell me who's the bigger liar.

Ok. True, I don't like revealing my age but whenever I do comment on it, I never lie. I honestly wouldn't mind if my man hung out with his friends, drink, party, visit a strip club... Just so long as he didn't already promise that time to me, like on my birthday and our anniversary. I've never said a baby was precious, the farthest I'll go is adorable or cute... All babies are precious (blessings). I call when I say I'm going to call. I don't lie about what's real or fake on my body (fyi, I wear weaves, acrylic nails and contacts and not ashamed to say so... My boobs aren't big enough to be mistaken for fake). I usually try to say what I mean and mean what I say. Like when I mentioned that I've never done drugs, drank alcohol or smoked anything... It include any kind of medicinal drug..not even cough medicine or aspirin. I think you have to be friends before you can be boyfriend and girlfriend or else the use of friend in the words is meaningless. So being just friends for the time being can be a good thing. Picking up a few items in a store can be difficult especially if there's a sale or somethings on the discount shelf...us impulse shoppers can't pass up a good deal so maybe we intended on getting a few items but end up with more than a few (is that a crime?). The thing about being late is true most of the time, but for all intensive purposes we take longer so we can make sure we look nice for our guy so its worth the wait..in most cases. I dunno.......

I think that guys are the bigger liers tho. They do it on purpose and with bad intentions and a lot of them do it so much that its become automatic responses. In my experience guys are most likely to lie to me and hopefully one day I'll find an honest one.

I'm sooo bored and I agree that altruisticman is sexy.



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Posted on Fri, Apr 07, 2006 23:18

Altruisticman write:
cutiepie01 write:
Where did altruistic go? someone mustve swooped his fine azz up! hey charles were in here!!!

I was away due to a family emergency. Well since I'm a man I guess that could very well be a lie huh?

Hey liar liar pants on fire! Good to see you back. i hope everything is okay with your family.



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Posted on Fri, Apr 07, 2006 14:07

Altruistic, what a great scoreboard, and yes, if they score a big "0", that is expected!!! LOL



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Posted on Thu, Apr 06, 2006 01:57

cutiepie01 write:
Where did altruistic go? someone mustve swooped his fine azz up! hey charles were in here!!!

I was away due to a family emergency. Well since I'm a man I guess that could very well be a lie huh?

  


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Posted on Tue, Apr 04, 2006 19:27

Where did altruistic go? someone mustve swooped his fine azz up! hey charles were in here!!!



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Posted on Tue, Mar 28, 2006 01:41

Tasha1978 write:

These things that we women say are'nt bad. It's a damn good thing that the we don't have a "THAT'S MY STORY AND I'M STICKING TO IT" kind of attitude if we are wrong!

Tasha ... really excellent points. Women may say those things, but 9 times out of 10, they aren't meant in a conniving, nasty way. Quite often, we're torn between telling the truth for OUR sakes ... and telling a lie for THEIR sake. We're often just too focussed on trying NOT to hurt anybody's feelings.

I think the honesty thing is overrated, anyway. At least on a dating site like this. It's my contention that NOBODY is under ANY obligation whatsoever, to be 100% truthful to absolute strangers on a public web site frequented by tens of thousands of people we do not know. In an ideal world, all dating site members would be brutally honest about all their flaws and shortcomings, so as not to waste other people's time by chatting them up and then disappointing the heck out of them the first time they meet.

But in reality, it's like eBay ... you just bid for an item and cross your fingers that you get delivered to you exactly what you paid for. Sometimes you don't. Luck of the draw.

I think honesty is best saved for serious, close relationships - not cyber-space. And that's the truth! lol

  


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Posted on Sun, Mar 26, 2006 22:01

well here s the true...

both in their way...

In the country side a man
was driving his car till he met
on the road a beautiful woman...
he told her she was elegant ...
Then she told him piggggggggggggggg!
he answered back u witch i simply gave u a compliment!She answered back piggg;
The man start loosing his patience and
screamed you witchhhhhh!1 minute later
he bomped into a real pig!The proove that men dont listen simply but they re not lyer either ..none the woman too!lol
It simply depend on the person!:)

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Posted on Sun, Mar 26, 2006 13:54

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HAHA! The score board is pretty cute, how long did it take you to come up with that? I feel for ya my dear. hehe


It's not just me, I'm just not afraid to make fun of myself. If you liked that then you should look at my post from the 20th on the "excellent lover" thread. It's about a school (The American School of Altruism)that I wish to create to help men to score more points. LOL



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Posted on Sun, Mar 26, 2006 08:11

I am being convince that men are the biggest lier's. Saying they love you then blocking you so they appear off line, when in actual fact they are on line in a chat room. Probably feeding some other unsuspecting female the exact same line.
They cant wait to see you and meet up, when in actual fact what they really mean is cant wait to have you, then you wont see them again for dust.
Even worse are the time wasters, chat to you for weeks or even months then come up with all types of excuses not to meet.
I have waisted time in the past on these type of people, why cant they be honest and just say they want to flirt on line. Most of we women would pref ere them to say so.
I have had my head messed with Guys who think is is a great game to mess around with peoples feelings, in fact it is the most hurtfull and vicious thing anyone can do to a person male or female.

  
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Posted on Sat, Mar 25, 2006 20:25

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cutiepie01 write:
Hmmm Altruistic, I think your question is being taken seriously, rather than funny as you started with.

Cutie that's because no one looked at the man's scoreboard posted below.

HAHA! The score board is pretty cute, how long did it take you to come up with that? I feel for ya my dear. hehe



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Posted on Sat, Mar 25, 2006 14:00

cutiepie01 write:
Hmmm Altruistic, I think your question is being taken seriously, rather than funny as you started with.

Cutie that's because no one looked at the man's scoreboard posted below.



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Posted on Sat, Mar 25, 2006 07:12

Hmmm Altruistic, I think your question is being taken seriously, rather than funny as you started with.



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Posted on Fri, Mar 24, 2006 17:16

Buying shampoo alway's caused a problem with me and my ex. I had been told that shampoo is shampoo. It really is'nt.

  
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Posted on Fri, Mar 24, 2006 13:37

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blueeyesonlakelanier write:
No, you go for it Rob, give us your insight on the rest of it.



Maybe we could start a more positive thread about Truthful, Honest, Fun Lovers that we had in the past!!! I want to spend my time shooting for that 7.5 years bonus time. :o)


Thanks, to all who took the time to post a comment on this thread. I really appreciate that everyone took this topic as the light hearted and friendly exchange that I meant it to be.

Rob, I always enjoy your analysis and analogies. So, I took into consideration what you said and decided to shift gears on this thread a little.

However,I don't think that you and I should be the only one's to enjoy those bonus years you mentioned, so I decided to post the Man's Scoreboard.

***Attention Men if you can earn enough points with the fairer sex, then you should be able to enjoy your bonus time and eliminate the need for the lies on both lists. So This one's for you Rob.
(NOTE: a score of "0" means it was expected of him)

Simple Duties
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* You go out to buy her spring-fresh extra-light panty-liners with wings: +5
* But return with beer: -5
* You check out a suspicious noise at night: 0
* You check out a suspicious noise and it's nothing: 0
* You check out a suspicious noise and it's something: +5
* You pummel it with a six iron: +10
* It's her father: -10

Social Engagements
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* You stay by her side the entire party: 0
* You stay by her side for awhile, then leave to chat with a college drinking buddy: -2
* Named Tiffany: -4
* Tiffany is a dancer: -6
* Tiffany has implants: -8

Saturday Afternoons
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* You visit her parents: +1
* You visit her parents and actually make conversation: +3
* You visit her parents and stare vacantly at the television: -3
* And the television is off: -6
* You spend the day watching college football in your underwear: -6
* And you didn't even go to college: -10
* And it's not really your underwear: -15

Her Birthday
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* You take her out to dinner: 0
* You take her out to dinner and it's not a sports bar: +1
* Okay, it's a sports bar: -2
* And it's all-you-can-eat night: -3
* It's a sports bar, it's all-you-can-eat night, and your face is painted the colors of your favorite team: -10
* You give her a gift: 0
* You give her a gift, and it's a small appliance: -10
* You give her a gift, and it's not a small appliance: +1
* You give her a gift, and it isn't chocolate: +2
* You give her a gift that you'll be paying off for months: +30
* You wait until the last minute and buy her a gift that day: -10
* With her credit card: -30
* And whatever you bought is two sizes too small: -40

Thoughtfulness
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* You forgot to pick her up at the bus station: -25
* Which is in Newark, New Jersey: -35
* And the pouring rain dissolves her leg cast: -50

A Night Out With Your Pals
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* You have a few beers: -9
* For every beer after three: -2 again
* And miss curfew by an hour: -12
* You get home at 3 a.m.: -20
* You get home at 3 a.m. smelling of booze and cheap cigars: -30
* And not wearing any pants: -40
* Is that a tattoo? -200

A Night Out, Just the Two of You
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* You go see a comic: +2
* He's crude and sexist: -2
* You laugh: -5
* You laugh too much: -10
* She's not laughing: -15



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