My father 76 married his 30 year old South African dating scam she has been trying to get over from South Africa ripping him off with payouts for flights, legal proceedings, failed visa applications, electricity cut off bills you name it he has sent money to her for over two years it began in a similar way. He sends her money all the time and mobile phones and laptops which she sells for cash and when I tell him to stop he says "But we are married" She actually married in her sisters name so the marriage certificate is a fake but that doesn't deter him either because he went over there to marry her and slept with her once. He is living a poor life here and sending every penny he has there. The area where she lives is on a postal red list with the postoffice and well known for prostitutes ripping people off online in the UK. When he went over he was kidnapped and met another man who was a prisoner too who's credit cards and debit cards had been removed from him by the people who took him saying they would get him a taxi to the place he wanted to go, he was too caught up in a dating online South African woman scam but in her failing to get a visa he was going there to join her, I expect he is dead now. My father escaped luckily and kept his cards in his shoe and got home to the UK. He still refuses to accept this was all part of the scam. My sister and I now give up trying to get him to stop. He has nothing left here, eventually when drained dry he will go over there and probably end up like that other fella.
I've wasted 9-months trying to figure out real vs fake. I thought I developed a system but after reading some of the post the system won't solved all of the issues. Needless to say that i am annpoyed having spent the entire month of April on a merry-go-round with about 100 views each week... finding none that has been real so far.
There are 3-things right off the cuff that can quickly spot a fraud... anyone interested just email me. Don't want to give up what appears to be woking for me on a public forum so theses scammer can design an andoidote.
To make one more point... so far the only real people have been those living in other contries. Go figure...
The same with me. I have almost never been contacted by "real" men. Very boring and actually frustrating. The only good thing about it is I recognize scams very fast now. Besides "schmaltzy" stories another important sign is that scammers very often provide contradictory information. Guess, a man usually knows whether he is "widowed" or "divorced"! So watch out for such mistakes.
There is a site called "Pig Busters" where all scammers should be reported. You can type in a portion of their conversation and/or photo and their name so others will know they are in it for money. Has happened to me also, only a fell for it at first, found out he was a scammer before he asked for money. One lady has made it her life long job to keep these people on the hook as long as she can and reports them on the page mentioned. Good luck. You would be shocked how many women fall in love only to send money and then have committed sucide due to their embarrassment and shame and heart break.
This is exactly what happened to me aswell. This scamers know how to BS woman too. They take a overage picture of handsome man most of them are athletic looking with good hair style, clean and pleasunt face who dressed with good tast. And they begine to brain wash you from the moment they sent a first email.
I recognise them very fast. They usualy write a long letter with the romantic dreams, they avoid skype with you face to face, and their IP address tells me they from Africa.
There a lot of business companies in Africa who trained people how to sit on computer and scam everyone of us. So, it's your job to use your imagination how to make everything look clear. If he/she gets upsad for not trusting, her is another proof.
I work on websites and am on-line all the time. The best method I have come across is that the company i.e. www.millionares..com as a requirement and ask you to take a photo with a newspaper today's date and also a licence or passport to match your details and then can be be approved by the owner of the website. There has to be a website that will implement this!! so there is more trust from consumers to use their more secure website. Searc Engine Optimiser and female on MM xx
You want to give people a chance and the benefit of the doubt. But at the same time you want to be cautious as well. There are scammers out their looking to unload you of your money. As soon as they start with the 'poor me story', a red flag should go up, because there is a good chance the 'poor me story' is going to lead to asking you for money. The answer should always be an emphatic, "No!" Once they ask, kick him or her to the curb. They are not interested in you. They are interested in your pocket book.
I'm not a millionairess, but I work hard for money and take care of myself. I am not going hand over my hard earned money to some loser, no matter where in the world they're from.
Well, I've just joined, literally 24 hours ago and had my concerns which this blog's confirming...
However, would not let myself being put off and guess - particularly judging on some comments here - this happening to many others including myself also fairly often offline or online elsewhere.
Guess the key to prevention or minimising scamming/fraud/crime risk is of course cautiousness, being on alert, listening to gut feeling and letting own and others experience play its part in deciding what to follow up and how to go ahead. All mentioned being an ongoing learning process, I'd very much appreciate helpful input, already posted and hopefully some more to come or to find on other blogs...
As a starter i'll guess some changes/add-ons on my profile would be good, verifications etc.
Hopefully I dont need to disguise myself with a frightful "Mr Burns" mask - Hahaha, joke aside, there is sure some nice, interesting and genuine people here whom I hope to get to know, possibly make friends with or more...
Any further help/suggestions very much appreciated, if its concerning my profile I'd be very grateful for comments but like to ask to post me directly rather than public - which I hope is understandable.
Ill be happy to share my experience here once I am a bit more of a "pro" (;
Good luck to all and hope this "duck and dive" situation still leaves enough time to get on with genuine personalities.
There are a few things that concern me on this site, enough to encourage me to make this post.
Though there are some very legitimate people here online, cutting through the scammers has been like wading in a mud bog. It is significant enough that IMO something must be done by the web site to ensure certain requirements. I believe one way would be (and it may already exist) to allow members to see exactly how long a profile has been signed up.
I have communicated with some very nice people here so I know not everyone is scamming. But how many people are going to contact me from out of the blue that have my same name, claim they've read about me & not give specifics about the town they claim to live in?
If I've not travelled to a particular city, I have friends all over the country to help find out specifics about certain places. How can you claim to be from (enter city of your choice) and know less about it than I do? Especially if you've lived there for x years? lol
I think I've uncovered enough scanners to get gold status comped (lol), but that's not my intent. I will report suspicions very quickly bc I don't want to deal with such crappie nor do I want anyone else to have to suffer the trouble of wading through the muck & the mire. In my line of work I have to do due diligence: and I would expect the same of people if actually interested in me. I have the resources & capacity to do ip trace through my PIs....and much more.
I would respectfully ask the admins of this site to do something more about this. The danger is not only trouble for members (whom are my primary concern), but if allowed to run rampant will ultimately reduce (even more) the integrity of the site & result in a non-believable, non-viable site...
I've run into more scammers than "real" guys on here. They ever use other member's pictures.......I actually let someone on this site know that someone was using his picture. I had someone use General Casey's picture - twice! I don't live under a rock. I'm getting good at figuring them out when just reading their profiles. I try and set them up and then turn them in. I am no longer a paying member on this site.......who needs it. I will say that the men I have met are definitely who they say they are, but it's a shopping site........shop until you drop......and then move on. (: Better things to do. It's too bad for the good people out there. Definitely makes you look at everyone through distrusting eyes - but maybe that's not all bad. Keeps you on your toes. Good luck to everyone.
Try only meeting people who live a certain distance from you and no further. Say within driving distance. Don't waste your valuable time chatting with people you will never meet unless you are only interested in being penpals. BTW Penpals never last long. Never answer unsolicited emails or IMs online. Never date anyone you meet online unless you have your top ten questions already answered prior. Oh and you get to determine what those top ten questions will be. But if you need some help try finding out the basics first.
Where they live
religion or church
plans for relationship or marraige or future with you
financial status or history (debt or BK)
mutual friend referrals
If they cant be straight up with these basic questions then just move on.
Not sure then do a background check on them prior to dating them. We live in a new online dating world. And don't always rely on a Church singles group to safeguard yourself. Some of the most messed up disfunctional people are picked over and left there...lol I know
Just to let the men know it works both ways. Perhaps the men aren't from Africa but they are hiding in their mommies basement looking for a place to live. They "work" from home but really their biggest job is to go to the mail each month to get their cheque, selling stuff on ebay. Gawdddd the list goes on and on.
I use to be a paying member on here, but it became pointless as most men's profiles (and probably vice versa) are full of bull. Age, height, weight allot of shrinking and growing going on between the email, the chat and then the meet. Its hilarious.
The lengths they will go to. I have received an email of ppl who actually claim to be well known ppl or sometimes even ur friends who are in another country and need help. Example...a man who i know by the name of rick scot, who lives at east street conton ground, sends me an email saying he is stuck in africa how he was robbed and needs to get home desperately. (mind u the name and address of the person are real and i actually knew someone by that name... but it wasnt the person). We just have to be careful and always do a background check if its a company. I always try to get a phone number and call in the morning and still in the night(they tend to answer different in the night lol, of course duhhhh its a personal phone and not a company lol
Hey i was just about to post something about scam and i saw urs. Everyday i receive mail from scammers especially from NIGERIA. Anyone who wants you to send money, ur name, address, bank account etc. BE AWARE IT IS A SCAM. No matter how it sounds, they also play on ur emotions by telling u that they are a sick christian who is dying and want u to have their money because they do not trust their family members to use it constructively. HA HA. I can go on and on about the online lottery who wants you to send money to claim ur price...i usually have a good time with them by telling them take it out of the money i win and just send it to be i wont be vex lol olo ha ha. DONT BE FOOLED PEOPLE. I have also called the numbers and know it is not a business or company.
Only he started in Texas which is where he said he lived. Then he went to visit his daughter in Scotland. Sent Pictures of friends and a picture of his daughter.
He had bought oil products and was going to make alot of money on the deal but had to pay sales taxes he had not planned on. He needed more money. He had tapped out his friends that lent him money but he still needed more to complete the deal so he could resale the product. So he said he got a job as a oil Geologist offshore to further finance his oil products.
I was the only one he could turn to he said. Then he wanted me to set up a bank account so he could put the money from his deal in it and he trusted me to do that. Heck he was in love with me.
He made his deal and put 4M in the bank account. Of course you can't get any money out of the bank Account until you pay a $12,000 commission to get the money out. Its a special off shore account. (Right) The account shows his money of 4M in there with Clydesdale Bank. (All a Scam) You even have to log into the account with Clydesdale Bank.
He was suppose to come back to the states in July and still is not back. His phone # was restricted but he gave me, apparently his phone # (Scotland) When he called once he made the mistake of not restricting his Number and I called the operator on the area code and she said it was Nigeria.
SO BEWARE THEY ARE GETTING BETTER AT WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THEY ARE DEFINATELY