Ladies!! Are Successful Men Always born or can they be Inspired?? Dating Wealthy Men / Women

  • View author's info Author posted on Feb 28, 2006 15:58


    I posed this question for several reasons First of all, because it never ceases to amaze me how easily Some women are willing to hop on the band-wagon after a man has achieved success. Whatever happened to the days when a man could have a vision and his woman would support him even when he ran out of steam and wanted to quit. Sencondly, I realized that people assume that ever person on here that is not a Millionaire is trying to find a meal ticket. Although that may be true for many, that's not the case for all. Some of us have been up and down on the success ladder and realize that sometimes you have to change your circle if you want to pull Yourself out of the rut. I mean think about it how many Millionaires live in smalltown USA? Who's to say that if you meet one and they take interest in you they won't A) Hire you or B) use there contacts to help you achieve a more lucrative endeavor. Doesn't someone have to help get the work done, or did you think that millionaire did all the work themselves? My third and final reason was to provoke thought in all the judgemental, not so financially together yet, themselves ladies. You know the ladies who'd overlook a man with potential, a vison, a kind heart, and sound family values for a man with money. Even if the money is temporal or can potentially limit the longevity of the relationship(Viiolent Death or Incarceration). For those who may be wondering why I joined I was hoping that if I met a successful Lady maybe she'd appreciate my mind since she didn't have to depend on my wallet to sustain herself. A tidbit that's not in my profile is that I'm well read and I've seen a great deal of the world. I've visited Alaska, Australia, Bahrain, Guam, Hawaii, Japan ,Korea and Thailand. Also Enjoyed my share of domestic scenery as well. That last piece was for the woman who may have assumed that I was some bitter broke dude.

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  • View author's info posted on May 25, 2006 14:56


    How do you define a successful man?

    Is it just the money he earns or more importantly is it that he is happy with his life?

    Success isnt about financial rewards but should be about whether you are enjoying what you are doing....you are not successful if you hate what you do.

    There are many ways of being successful and not all of them are materialistic!

    To me money means nothing I would rather meet someone who can make me laugh and will respect me and treat me as an equal.

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  • View author's info posted on May 20, 2006 23:20


    I'm a little late...but that isn't so...lol. I knew what it meant...hahah.
  • View author's info posted on Mar 25, 2006 08:03


    I feel that it can go either way. You can be born into a wealthy family but not take advantage of the opportunities you have and end up broke or you can be born in poverty and be inspired to do something with your life and get an education and work towards being wealthy and succesful.
  • View author's info posted on Mar 22, 2006 22:49


    Hi Sharp,
    Nice to see you back from your cruise and returning to your regular columns of views and opinions.

    I guess you are right about age and experience , we learn about ourselves and our needs as we grow and learn from our own mistakes in every aspect of our life. Age , experience , maturity also means we are more set in our ways and more resistant to change.

    Do our ideals of a soulmate change as we get older because our needs change?
    Are we willing to meet those changes and the expectations of those around us and mainly the sort of men/women who would be attracted to us as potential soulmates?
    Are we happy to be independent and live alone if no one comes along to meet our expectations or are we so desperate to jump on the band wagon in finding a soulmate because of our fear of being alone the rest of our lives?
    Do we still believe and want to believe that there is true romance and love out there , whatever our age or our circumstance?
    Or course I have digressed here from the main topic, which is all about 'success'and whether it is a vital ingredient in a happy union ..but surely success like the old adage, is what you make of your life alone or with your soulmate or others...and at the end of the day it is all about the role of expectations in determining the level of happiness in our life. WE may be happy with little when we have come to expect little. And we may be miserable with much when we have been taught to expect everything.
  • View author's info posted on Mar 22, 2006 22:47


    Hi Sharp,
    Nice to see you back from your cruise and returning to your regular columns of views and opinions.

    I guess you are right about age and experience , we learn about ourselves and our needs as we grow and learn from our own mistakes in every aspect of our life. Age , experience , maturity also means we are more set in our ways and more resistant to change.

    Do our ideals of a soulmate change as we get older because our needs change?
    Are we willing to meet those changes and the expectations of those around us and mainly the sort of men/women who would be attracted to us as potential soulmates?
    Are we happy to be independent and live alone if no one comes along to meet our expectations or are we so desperate to jump on the band wagon in finding a soulmate because of our fear of being alone the rest of our lives?
    Do we still believe and want to believe that there is true romance and love out there , whatever our age or our circumstance?
    Or course I have digressed here from the main topic, which is all about 'success'and whether it is a vital ingredient in a happy union ..but surely success like the old adage, is what you make of your life alone or with your soulmate or others...and at the end of the day it is all about the role of expectations in determining the level of happiness in our life. WE may be happy with little when we have come to expect little. And we may be miserable with much when we have been taught to expect everything.
  • View author's info posted on Mar 22, 2006 14:40


    I firmly believe a good woman may serve as a muse next to her good man, inspiring him to acheive, or inspiring him to live.. woman who latch on after, or at least latch on without feeling like they can be A contribution/or compliment to their man, and only wish to seek the rewards of his hard work..well they have a old slang term for that.."gold digger" those woman usually snag, use, then suck and take the life out of that man...but a lady, or sugar baby will be there next to him to compliment him..does this make sense?
  • View author's info posted on Mar 21, 2006 05:12


    Tasha1978 write:
    Sharpe1 and Truistic, thank you both so much for sharing that with me. You two along with Cutiepie01 alway's have very good answer's and advice. I love it all. Thanks

    Tasha, you're very welcome. I hate to see people who are willing to learn from the experiences of others learn everything the hard way.
  • View author's info posted on Mar 20, 2006 20:18


    Sharpe1 and Truistic, thank you both so much for sharing that with me. You two along with Cutiepie01 alway's have very good answer's and advice. I love it all. Thanks

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  • View author's info posted on Mar 20, 2006 20:15


    cutiepie01 write:
    Altruisticman write:
    Tasha1978 write:

    Altruisticman write:
    I posed this question for several reasons First of all, because it never ceases to amaze me how easily Some women are willing to hop on the band-wagon after a man has achieved success. Whatever happened to the days when a man could have a vision and his woman would support him even when he ran out of steam and wanted to quit. Sencondly, I realized that people assume that ever person on here that is not a Millionaire is trying to find a meal ticket. Although that may be true for many, that's not the case for all. Some of us have been up and down on the success ladder and realize that sometimes you have to change your circle if you want to pull Yourself out of the rut. I mean think about it how many Millionaires live in smalltown USA? Who's to say that if you meet one and they take interest in you they won't A) Hire you or B) use there contacts to help you achieve a more lucrative endeavor. Doesn't someone have to help get the work done, or did you think that millionaire did all the work themselves? My third and final reason was to provoke thought in all the judgemental, not so financially together yet, themselves ladies. You know the ladies who'd overlook a man with potential, a vison, a kind heart, and sound family values for a man with money. Even if the money is temporal or can potentially limit the longevity of the relationship(Viiolent Death or Incarceration). For those who may be wondering why I joined I was hoping that if I met a successful Lady maybe she'd appreciate my mind since she didn't have to depend on my wallet to sustain herself. A tidbit that's not in my profile is that I'm well read and I've seen a great deal of the world. I've visited Alaska, Australia, Bahrain, Guam, Hawaii, Japan ,Korea and Thailand. Also Enjoyed my share of domestic scenery as well. That last piece was for the woman who may have assumed that I was some bitter broke dude.

    Altruistic... I might not know about lot's of things... I just want to say, a long time ago, I knew I would never be a millionaire or have all of the nice things everyone wants, even though I feel I was born to have everything. I decided to live my life, pay my bill's take care of my children and enjoy what money I make. I never do without. What's wrong with just being in between? Sure I am alway's striving to be better but it gives me something to do. My biggest problem is being (dragged or drug)down by people. I alway's seem to meet people and congregate with one's who are taker's. I end up loosing out. They are'nt bad people though...A good example is someone in my life now. I alway's pay for everything,anything,I don't want to be cheap. I have done and done and done to the point that I almost hate this person or very much dislike. At the same time I feel this person is trying to sabotage me. I have fixed it to where this person can get back on their feet and do what's right and live and not have to worry. Do I get appreciation? Not any! Not a thank's or Tasha is there anything I can do for you? I'm just worn out. I am moving soon, I will cut this person out of my life and carry on. I'm sure I will do much better. I had to vent out a little. Boy do I feel a little better!


    Tasha, I'm glad you feel better. It's not about how much you know/possess it's about what you do with the knowledgepossessions that you do have. You're not the only one to ever be in your position. It's up to you not to let people drag you down. I can tell you from experience, that unless you make a choice not to be used, you'll find someone else to drag you down, even when you move. Just rember that "Parasites can't exist without a host."

    Tash I have the same problem with people. There are parasites out there that can track us down like blood hounds, and thats exactly what they want is our blood. I had a roommate that I let move in with me 2 different times because I didnt want her to feel alone in a strange town when her and her husband split up. She met a guy and I never heard from her again until they split up. Then here she came again. I of course opened my door again. The last time I saw or heard from her was the day I came home from work early and she was moving out. I had just started making her pay rent, after 9 months of living here for free. she just found someone else to listen to her sob story about how mean i am to charge her $200 a month rent. They fell for it and now she is their problem. good riddance! what a relief to have my home back.

    Oh GOD is'nt it a relief??? I just cleared out my apartment. This is why I think it is good not to have so called friends. I can't stand it. Hell if it is'nt money then it's emotional problems from hell. Have you ever had a friend that could'nt stop whining and complaining? It's enough to drive a crazy person sane.

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  • View author's info posted on Mar 17, 2006 16:17


    Tasha1978 write:

    unsnaggedeagle write:
    Good for you Tasha, get rid of this person that takes and takes, and take care of yourself and your children and meanwhile let them come to you and for once say no I'm not taking care of a man he has to take care of me if he wants me...Stick to your guns!!!Girl

    Well, it is'nt exactly a man... it's my "best friend". I don't hate her, just get mad at times because I have always done it by myself... why can't she? It's not impossible, it's not hard. Just do it! But I have noticed she does'nt care how her life ends up or how she lives. There is no hope for her, I feel. I do care about mine though and will alway's make improvement's when I have the chance. She did tell me if I ever came back to Alabama and needed a place to stay, look her up. That's not likely!

    I am happy for you I know you did the right thing...
  • View author's info posted on Mar 17, 2006 14:59


    unsnaggedeagle write:
    Good for you Tasha, get rid of this person that takes and takes, and take care of yourself and your children and meanwhile let them come to you and for once say no I'm not taking care of a man he has to take care of me if he wants me...Stick to your guns!!!Girl

    Well, it is'nt exactly a man... it's my "best friend". I don't hate her, just get mad at times because I have always done it by myself... why can't she? It's not impossible, it's not hard. Just do it! But I have noticed she does'nt care how her life ends up or how she lives. There is no hope for her, I feel. I do care about mine though and will alway's make improvement's when I have the chance. She did tell me if I ever came back to Alabama and needed a place to stay, look her up. That's not likely!

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  • View author's info posted on Mar 15, 2006 16:49


    Good for you Tasha, get rid of this person that takes and takes, and take care of yourself and your children and meanwhile let them come to you and for once say no I'm not taking care of a man he has to take care of me if he wants me...Stick to your guns!!!Girl
  • View author's info posted on Mar 15, 2006 09:44


    Tasha1978 write:

    Altruisticman write:
    I posed this question for several reasons First of all, because it never ceases to amaze me how easily Some women are willing to hop on the band-wagon after a man has achieved success. Whatever happened to the days when a man could have a vision and his woman would support him even when he ran out of steam and wanted to quit. Sencondly, I realized that people assume that ever person on here that is not a Millionaire is trying to find a meal ticket. Although that may be true for many, that's not the case for all. Some of us have been up and down on the success ladder and realize that sometimes you have to change your circle if you want to pull Yourself out of the rut. I mean think about it how many Millionaires live in smalltown USA? Who's to say that if you meet one and they take interest in you they won't A) Hire you or B) use there contacts to help you achieve a more lucrative endeavor. Doesn't someone have to help get the work done, or did you think that millionaire did all the work themselves? My third and final reason was to provoke thought in all the judgemental, not so financially together yet, themselves ladies. You know the ladies who'd overlook a man with potential, a vison, a kind heart, and sound family values for a man with money. Even if the money is temporal or can potentially limit the longevity of the relationship(Viiolent Death or Incarceration). For those who may be wondering why I joined I was hoping that if I met a successful Lady maybe she'd appreciate my mind since she didn't have to depend on my wallet to sustain herself. A tidbit that's not in my profile is that I'm well read and I've seen a great deal of the world. I've visited Alaska, Australia, Bahrain, Guam, Hawaii, Japan ,Korea and Thailand. Also Enjoyed my share of domestic scenery as well. That last piece was for the woman who may have assumed that I was some bitter broke dude.

    Altruistic... I might not know about lot's of things... I just want to say, a long time ago, I knew I would never be a millionaire or have all of the nice things everyone wants, even though I feel I was born to have everything. I decided to live my life, pay my bill's take care of my children and enjoy what money I make. I never do without. What's wrong with just being in between? Sure I am alway's striving to be better but it gives me something to do. My biggest problem is being (dragged or drug)down by people. I alway's seem to meet people and congregate with one's who are taker's. I end up loosing out. They are'nt bad people though...A good example is someone in my life now. I alway's pay for everything,anything,I don't want to be cheap. I have done and done and done to the point that I almost hate this person or very much dislike. At the same time I feel this person is trying to sabotage me. I have fixed it to where this person can get back on their feet and do what's right and live and not have to worry. Do I get appreciation? Not any! Not a thank's or Tasha is there anything I can do for you? I'm just worn out. I am moving soon, I will cut this person out of my life and carry on. I'm sure I will do much better. I had to vent out a little. Boy do I feel a little better!


    Tasha, I'm glad you feel better. It's not about how much you know/possess it's about what you do with the knowledgepossessions that you do have. You're not the only one to ever be in your position. It's up to you not to let people drag you down. I can tell you from experience, that unless you make a choice not to be used, you'll find someone else to drag you down, even when you move. Just rember that "Parasites can't exist without a host."
  • View author's info posted on Mar 15, 2006 09:19


    Thanks Bonnie for acknowleging My handle. So far Robtest was the only other person to know what Altruism meant.
  • View author's info posted on Mar 15, 2006 09:08


    katiegrl write:
    Altruisticman write:
    I posed this question for several reasons First of all, because it never ceases to amaze me how easily Some women are willing .....

    Tru, people who achieve success, win the lottery, become the Mayor, get into Forbes magazine, et al, often (if not ALWAYS) discover they have a heck of a lot more cousins and long lost friends than they can ever recall knowing, BEFORE success smacked them in the eye. And they're not ALL women! Like leeches to blood, some people smell success and want to be near it... or better still - inherit it! LOL

    Now, your second reason for composing this thread is easy. "Them's what haves, KEEPS it!" People don't value someone with potential because it isn't proven yet! It's only subjective hearsay. EVERYBODY thinks they have potential! So until someone can back that statement up with tangible evidence, then they really are just like everybody else! Wishing don't make it so.

    (Good thing is though, you don't have a ton of boot-licking cousins you never knew you had bugging you until after you "make it"! lol

    And lastly, I don't know ANY women who would turn down a good and loving man for a guy who only has money. I mean it. I don't know ANY!

    It's my contention that this kind of woman is a myth invented by millionaires who need an excuse not to fall in love. They just blame it on women who are only after them for their treasure. Arrgh!

    You aren't the only good and moralistic person who is overlooked in the love department, sweetie. And I'm not being facetious or sarcastic here ... I'm talking from the heart, Altruistic. Everybody HERE is a good person, (well, and then there's the enigmatic Bob who we can't read because he's never himself). We all know where you're coming from, luv. We're there too.

    And to answer your question, "Are successful men always born or can they be inspired? I think successful men can be taught. One way to rub a little luck on you, Tru, is to find someone who you admire for their great success, (you'd meet the best success if you picked an accomplished entrepreneur in your home town) and write to that person and ask them if you could meet them and ask them for their ideas on what makes someone successful. I've met many very interesting, successful and wealthy people that way. But the secret is ... NOT to sleep with them or even DATE them but just get the advice and information, shake hands and say goodbye. Maybe write a follow-up "Thank You" letter. But that's ALL! lol

    (No sense giving them any fuel for their assumption you might be a gold-digger!) lol

    Altruistic, I don't know why you don't get by on just your looks alone! You are quite fine to look at! Have you tried modelling?

    Wow! I don't even know how to respond. I started this thread the day I first found MM and it went unnoticed so long that I forgot about it. lol First of all thanks for the compliment and yes I did model when I was younger. I gave it up to be a single parent, plus I'm 1.5 inches too short for runway. Besides that Ohio has a small market for Modeling. In response to you comment about not having relatives and leeches, "been there done that". :)

    After reading your comment about not knowing any woman who'd shun a loving man for a man with money I dedcided to move to Canada. lol. All jokes aside, I know that it happens in this country because I've been on both sides of the scenerio. I'm not trying to pass myself off as an angel, or someone who has never been loved. It's just that I'm maturing and need to be loved in a diifferent way. I've never had any problems attracting women especially older or more established. It's just that I've encountered very few who can match my wits or be supportive.

    In Bob's defense, he's just protecting himself. I'll probably get kicked out of the man club for this. lol but here goes. Speaking as a reformed womanizer, I can tell you that when men are obnoxious on the outside they're insecure. They've usually been hurt and feel a subconscious need to hide thier true feelings. No matter how many women you date, you still feel lonely at the end of the day or on holidays. You question yourself and wonder if any woman would ever want to know the real you.
  • View author's info posted on Mar 15, 2006 07:26


    Altruisticman write:
    I posed this question for several reasons First of all, because it never ceases to amaze me how easily Some women are willing to hop on the band-wagon after a man has achieved success. Whatever happened to the days when a man could have a vision and his woman would support him even when he ran out of steam and wanted to quit. Sencondly, I realized that people assume that ever person on here that is not a Millionaire is trying to find a meal ticket. Although that may be true for many, that's not the case for all. Some of us have been up and down on the success ladder and realize that sometimes you have to change your circle if you want to pull Yourself out of the rut. I mean think about it how many Millionaires live in smalltown USA? Who's to say that if you meet one and they take interest in you they won't A) Hire you or B) use there contacts to help you achieve a more lucrative endeavor. Doesn't someone have to help get the work done, or did you think that millionaire did all the work themselves? My third and final reason was to provoke thought in all the judgemental, not so financially together yet, themselves ladies. You know the ladies who'd overlook a man with potential, a vison, a kind heart, and sound family values for a man with money. Even if the money is temporal or can potentially limit the longevity of the relationship(Viiolent Death or Incarceration). For those who may be wondering why I joined I was hoping that if I met a successful Lady maybe she'd appreciate my mind since she didn't have to depend on my wallet to sustain herself. A tidbit that's not in my profile is that I'm well read and I've seen a great deal of the world. I've visited Alaska, Australia, Bahrain, Guam, Hawaii, Japan ,Korea and Thailand. Also Enjoyed my share of domestic scenery as well. That last piece was for the woman who may have assumed that I was some bitter broke dude.

    Altruistic... I might not know about lot's of things... I just want to say, a long time ago, I knew I would never be a millionaire or have all of the nice things everyone wants, even though I feel I was born to have everything. I decided to live my life, pay my bill's take care of my children and enjoy what money I make. I never do without. What's wrong with just being in between? Sure I am alway's striving to be better but it gives me something to do. My biggest problem is being (dragged or drug)down by people. I alway's seem to meet people and congregate with one's who are taker's. I end up loosing out. They are'nt bad people though...A good example is someone in my life now. I alway's pay for everything,anything,I don't want to be cheap. I have done and done and done to the point that I almost hate this person or very much dislike. At the same time I feel this person is trying to sabotage me. I have fixed it to where this person can get back on their feet and do what's right and live and not have to worry. Do I get appreciation? Not any! Not a thank's or Tasha is there anything I can do for you? I'm just worn out. I am moving soon, I will cut this person out of my life and carry on. I'm sure I will do much better. I had to vent out a little. Boy do I feel a little better!

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  • View author's info posted on Mar 15, 2006 00:20


    Altruisticman...your handle tells me alot about you and I appreciate your wisdom and your well articulate views.

    Perhaps one should look at how we define
    'success' in today's material world and how we measure our own 'happiness' in relation to material success.
    Read 'Status Anxiety' by Alain de Botton..our self-conception of 'success' is so determined and dependent upon what others make of us.

    OUr own status in society be it defined by money, fame, profession , career or influence in the end is also a measure of the love (both the romantic kind and the protection and benevolent gaze of our loved ones and others which we are able to inspire.


    Status anxiety possesses an exceptional capacity to inspire sorrow and sense of failure when we measure ourselves in terms of the quantum of our bank account and the envy and the jealousy we inspire in others..

    Having a site named 'MM' and joining it seems crass and unless we take it with a huge pinch of salt and laugh at the idiocracy of it, we are all in danger of being hypocritical about what we define as 'success' and 'happiness' and what will make us contented as balanced human beings.

    So it is almost a natural instinct that men/women wish to surround themselves with people whom they deemed 'successful' and hopefully inspire them with that magic too.
    But spotting someone's potential to 'succeed' takes experience and instinct. It is a sort of social venture capitalism..the risk/reward in investing in friendship or romance with someone who has the potential to be the ideal mate and together achieve success'. 'love' and happiness in our hunt ..that is almost a universal aspiration in all human race whichever political or cultural regime we may be in. WE have not progress that far from the animal kingdom , we are not different from them in that we seek to be in the same tribal group and feel safe in knowing that we are in the stronger tribe that will survive the race..
  • View author's info posted on Mar 12, 2006 01:41


    Altruisticman write:
    I posed this question for several reasons First of all, because it never ceases to amaze me how easily Some women are willing .....

    Tru, people who achieve success, win the lottery, become the Mayor, get into Forbes magazine, et al, often (if not ALWAYS) discover they have a heck of a lot more cousins and long lost friends than they can ever recall knowing, BEFORE success smacked them in the eye. And they're not ALL women! Like leeches to blood, some people smell success and want to be near it... or better still - inherit it! LOL

    Now, your second reason for composing this thread is easy. "Them's what haves, KEEPS it!" People don't value someone with potential because it isn't proven yet! It's only subjective hearsay. EVERYBODY thinks they have potential! So until someone can back that statement up with tangible evidence, then they really are just like everybody else! Wishing don't make it so.

    (Good thing is though, you don't have a ton of boot-licking cousins you never knew you had bugging you until after you "make it"! lol

    And lastly, I don't know ANY women who would turn down a good and loving man for a guy who only has money. I mean it. I don't know ANY!

    It's my contention that this kind of woman is a myth invented by millionaires who need an excuse not to fall in love. They just blame it on women who are only after them for their treasure. Arrgh!

    You aren't the only good and moralistic person who is overlooked in the love department, sweetie. And I'm not being facetious or sarcastic here ... I'm talking from the heart, Altruistic. Everybody HERE is a good person, (well, and then there's the enigmatic Bob who we can't read because he's never himself). We all know where you're coming from, luv. We're there too.

    And to answer your question, "Are successful men always born or can they be inspired? I think successful men can be taught. One way to rub a little luck on you, Tru, is to find someone who you admire for their great success, (you'd meet the best success if you picked an accomplished entrepreneur in your home town) and write to that person and ask them if you could meet them and ask them for their ideas on what makes someone successful. I've met many very interesting, successful and wealthy people that way. But the secret is ... NOT to sleep with them or even DATE them but just get the advice and information, shake hands and say goodbye. Maybe write a follow-up "Thank You" letter. But that's ALL! lol

    (No sense giving them any fuel for their assumption you might be a gold-digger!) lol

    Altruistic, I don't know why you don't get by on just your looks alone! You are quite fine to look at! Have you tried modelling?
  • View author's info posted on Mar 11, 2006 09:01


    Hello, I'm sorry I haven't been able to contact you back I don't believe you are bitter at all. You do have a point, from what I can tell about women sticking by a man while he is striving to do accomplish something it has to do with how they were raised. Some of us have more compassion than others. I have been that person over and over. Yet, you know how the saying goes..."you don't realize what you have until it's gone" and that seems to be the case when it comes to those that I have helped strive for better. I joined this site more so because after talking to some of entertainment industry friends, they constantly speak of how time doesn't permit dating or people are so superficial, etc. Then I realized that people who are "financially stable" don't always find or have the time to find sincere people. So if I can be that sincere, real person for someone who has equal or less than I, why can't I do that for someone who has more. Part of me believes it was because I didn't want the assumption of being superficial and the other was a fear of being taken for granted. Then I began to realize that this would and has been done by many people regardless of status. It is all about the person in particular. So I decided to take a chance here. I have been to Germany, Austria, Luxemburg, Switzerland, Bahamas and Korea. This is so you are aware that you are dealing with a cultured woman. I plan on doing more.

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