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Posted on Tue, Dec 27, 2005 19:50

When I originally started on MM, I thought that I would pay for that special someone to fly out to see me. I made a couple of offers, one lady outright refused citing that she would pay her own way - a very attractive lady, a model, with average income. And that's how I see it should be. If a woman isn't going to invest in seeing me, then she isn't worth it. If I'm paying to fly her out, how much different is that from prostitution? When the woman arrives, you can bet that I pay for everything when she gets here - part of being wealthy, I have always felt, is picking up the tab. But I'm not going to fly her here to see me. I might be talked into paying half, but even then, I'd feel a whole lot better about the woman if she paid her way. Such a woman I have met on MM is about to do that with me...coming a long distance to see me. Is she in for a treat!



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Posted on Wed, Apr 12, 2006 15:42

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I think that is nothing more antipathetic than a man that allow a woman to pay from beginning. Especially if he has money. And much more...her to come for her money. Great. He is showing from beginning that he is testing her like a mouse in laboratory. The men are expecting in a woman the sexual instinct, the mother in stink and the friend instinct.Am even not talking about the look. Why I must to not expect the normal safety feeling. If he is a man, a not just a boy with a pe..nis, than I must see it. That he has some brain, and some possibilities and some results.I don"t have anything against to pay for me.God, some money for a flight, or some dinners, you will always find, but also you will find out that this man is very cheap, even if he is a millionaire.

I had a man just a few weeks ago, ask me to fly to chicago. he was willing to pay for everything, but got indignent when i suggested that he fly here. this one and only conversation lasted possibly 10 minutes. can you imagine a man after 2 minutes asking for a woman to fly to him, but would not even entertain the thought of him doing the traveling. I thought he was just joking at first, but he said he has the money and i must come to him.. what is this, a high dollar long distance escort service?

I don't think it's that, cutie, I think it's more like generally (again, men, I'm saying generally!) want their women in their "lion's den" (i.e. their place where they're more comfortable, familiar, know where to go, what to do, etc.).



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Posted on Wed, Apr 12, 2006 09:19

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The question is about the courtesy...it is typical american way of thinking... oh... who should pay? me? or she?.... of course it is better when she will pay.. you guys will save few hundred dollars...hahahaha....be gentelmen... I cant imagine me paying the bill in the restaraunt after the romantic dinner with a hadsome man!...Yuikieeees..... I can hire a servant!

you said it sister, good pic...too...



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Posted on Sat, Apr 08, 2006 08:38

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I think that is nothing more antipathetic than a man that allow a woman to pay from beginning. Especially if he has money. And much more...her to come for her money. Great. He is showing from beginning that he is testing her like a mouse in laboratory. The men are expecting in a woman the sexual instinct, the mother in stink and the friend instinct.Am even not talking about the look. Why I must to not expect the normal safety feeling. If he is a man, a not just a boy with a pe..nis, than I must see it. That he has some brain, and some possibilities and some results.I don"t have anything against to pay for me.God, some money for a flight, or some dinners, you will always find, but also you will find out that this man is very cheap, even if he is a millionaire.

I had a man just a few weeks ago, ask me to fly to chicago. he was willing to pay for everything, but got indignent when i suggested that he fly here. this one and only conversation lasted possibly 10 minutes. can you imagine a man after 2 minutes asking for a woman to fly to him, but would not even entertain the thought of him doing the traveling. I thought he was just joking at first, but he said he has the money and i must come to him.. what is this, a high dollar long distance escort service?



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Posted on Sat, Apr 08, 2006 07:49

The question is about the courtesy...it is typical american way of thinking... oh... who should pay? me? or she?.... of course it is better when she will pay.. you guys will save few hundred dollars...hahahaha....be gentelmen... I cant imagine me paying the bill in the restaraunt after the romantic dinner with a hadsome man!...Yuikieeees..... I can hire a servant!

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Posted on Sat, Apr 08, 2006 06:41

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When I originally started on MM, I thought that I would pay for that special someone to fly out to see me. I made a couple of offers, one lady outright refused citing that she would pay her own way - a very attractive lady, a model, with average income. And that's how I see it should be. If a woman isn't going to invest in seeing me, then she isn't worth it. If I'm paying to fly her out, how much different is that from prostitution? When the woman arrives, you can bet that I pay for everything when she gets here - part of being wealthy, I have always felt, is picking up the tab. But I'm not going to fly her here to see me. I might be talked into paying half, but even then, I'd feel a whole lot better about the woman if she paid her way. Such a woman I have met on MM is about to do that with me...coming a long distance to see me. Is she in for a treat!

I GET A LITTLE AFRAID TO SPEND SO MUCH TO MEET SOMEONE WHO DID NOT LOOK LIKE THERE PICTURES, WERE THREE FEET SHORTER AND NO TEETH, AFTER THEY PRESENTED IT ALL DIFFERENT, SORRY, BUT IF THEY WANT TO MEET ME, THEN THE MAN IS A MAN ABOUT IT AND THAT IS HOW I LOOK AT IT, WHY SPEND MY MONEY ON A DATE THAT MAYNOT WORK OUT, AND WHAT IS THIS PROSITUTE STUFF, THEY ARE NOT HAVING SEX WITH ME ON THE FIRST MEET AND GREET, JJEEEEZZZ, IT IS NOT A SITE FOR CHEAP SKATES, MM IS FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WOULD NOT MIND DOING THAT FOR THE RIGHT ONE, LIFE IS RISKS, MOST RICH MEN DO NOT MIND THEM AND A TICKET IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET FREQUENT FLYER MILES CAN HANDLE, LMAO...

  


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Posted on Tue, Jan 17, 2006 23:03

Do you realize that you are all talking about money and affection as if it is a BAD thing. It is about having the opportunity to find out if there is compatibility, maybe even love. Why would anyone who really cares, and has the money to spent put someone he admires enough to meet, into a possible hardship? That would show him if she is truly interested???? Why would she spent the time and effort if she wasn't interested. Isn't that the reason we are publicly announcing our deepest desires.....to meet someone? Are really feeling too unworthy to give or accept a gift without feeling obligated to match the gift? Bob, money is nothing but green energy you happen to have more of it than others. Other people may have more brains than you are...who cares, what's the difference. If there is someone out there you want to meet, go and meet her, don't think about money, think about how fortunate you are for the opportunity to become truly wealthy. PEACE



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Posted on Tue, Jan 17, 2006 22:33

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When I originally started on MM, I thought that I would pay for that special someone to fly out to see me. I made a couple of offers, one lady outright refused citing that she would pay her own way - a very attractive lady, a model, with average income. And that's how I see it should be. If a woman isn't going to invest in seeing me, then she isn't worth it. If I'm paying to fly her out, how much different is that from prostitution? When the woman arrives, you can bet that I pay for everything when she gets here - part of being wealthy, I have always felt, is picking up the tab. But I'm not going to fly her here to see me. I might be talked into paying half, but even then, I'd feel a whole lot better about the woman if she paid her way. Such a woman I have met on MM is about to do that with me...coming a long distance to see me. Is she in for a treat!


There are many different views to this depending on your own philosophy and cultural background. In some countries a true gentleman (whatever this means) pays for everything and its not considered as "prostitution". Many of the scandinavian countries where women are very independent, with their own budgets, they pay for their expenses, or at least they offer to pay half. I suppose a man should offer to pay, but I also find it very charming and respectful when a woman has an interest of a man by offering to share some of the costs. Just the thought of sharing something tells me that the other side is aware of his or her partner.



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Posted on Mon, Jan 02, 2006 02:10

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When I originally started on MM, I thought that I would pay for that special someone to fly out to see me. I made a couple of offers, one lady outright refused citing that she would pay her own way - a very attractive lady, a model, with average income. And that's how I see it should be. If a woman isn't going to invest in seeing me, then she isn't worth it. If I'm paying to fly her out, how much different is that from prostitution? When the woman arrives, you can bet that I pay for everything when she gets here - part of being wealthy, I have always felt, is picking up the tab. But I'm not going to fly her here to see me. I might be talked into paying half, but even then, I'd feel a whole lot better about the woman if she paid her way. Such a woman I have met on MM is about to do that with me...coming a long distance to see me. Is she in for a treat!


I've been thinking about this and I have to say, I prefer a man, who approaches ME first, to come to see ME, if he can swing it. I met a few men that way when I lived in Ottawa and I had a great time showing them the sites and making reservations at trendy restaurants so that he didn't have to worry about that stuff. I also find the best weekend deals for car rentals for him, try to swing a good deal with his hotel if he wants, and know the best way in and out of the airport. Now that I live in Toronto, I'm learning to do the same here.

I've had the most fun meeting my gentleman traveller at the airport and get a kick out of the look on his face when he recognises me standing by the carousel, waiting for him. Then I take him to his hotel via limousine. (It costs about $45-$50 by cab to the city's downtown, but the limo is a flat rate $35)

That way, the ice has been broken in a fun way and he can suggest how much time we spend together by inviting me to dinner or lunch or out for drinks. I've never met a man I didn't like except once, when I met an arrogant government hotshot who flew in from Calgary on business and arranged to meet me and we hated each other from minute one. But if it happened again, I would feel comfortable bowing out and staying home in my familiar surroundings. If I went to meet HIM, I would feel trapped locking myself in my hotel room and not answering the phone until my flight departs for home.

I don't beat around the bush on MM. I've said a dozen times, when I have money ... I have it. But often, as is the artist/writer's modus operandi, I'm not exactly rolling in cash all the time. So, if a millionaire contacted me and told me to fly over to meet him on my own dime ... I would giggle quietly and change the subject. It wouldn't happen.

THEN I would feel like a "ho" or an escort, as tho my company would be viewed as a simple business transaction involving mandatory sex. I'm looking for love, not a strategic biz alliance.

It's better for me if a man comes to get me, NOT the other way around. I might be attracted and I might be interested, but it's NOT business and cannot be organized that way. I think I speak for quite a few women when I say, "We want to be wined and dined and romanced. And if it is done in a gentlemanly, confident, generous, chivalrous way ... the gentleman won't regret it."

And that's not to imply we'd just hop in the sack to repay a fine dinner. I think dinner and fine wine is money well spent by a man for charming company, a tempting decolletage, and envious glances from other men who are thinking what a lucky bastard HE is! LOL

Besides, you can argue until you explode on how women should do this and do that ... butit doesn't change the fact that we want the romance and men want the sex. It takes a skilled potential amour to give in order to get.

And BTW - the car I'm picked up in, the income, the stock portfolio, property and assets AND the amount of money spent on me is irrelevant. The quality of conversation, humour, respect, chemistry and closeness is what wins my heart every time. I'm also a sucker for a strong hugger and a great french kisser. LOL



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Posted on Fri, Dec 30, 2005 21:48

Hey Bob,

I liked your last post, still lol. One thing though. In your situation, ask your accountant if I am correct here too. Your quote:

Katie, stay away from Blonde. He's mine. He has a spot for me in his trunk.

Blonde...absolutely, the guy pays the way...but no way I'm paying to fly the girl out to see me. Long distance relationship is tough, and not what I'm looking for.


I would think with your status that you would qualify in the same guidelines as I do. It is a business expense to do what I stated prior in flying to them and such. So it would be a write off at the least. If you expense it as business, you absorb it as such. Doing as you suggested would be a personal related expense and therefore not a business expense, non deductable. Think smart, it helps build wealth, not use it. Being thrifty if ok, but to a point! And on a final note, personal pleasure can be added at the businesses expense for nothing extra. Wise choice don't you think? Everything gained, nothing lost?

PS. Please use the term lady with me, girl implies a young and youthful person (adolescent). I am a gentleman, I have classy lady friends and gentleman friends now that I am older in life. I had girl friends when I was in my teens. Just a comment I think one should use to correlate the terminology correctly my friend. Thanks!



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Posted on Fri, Dec 30, 2005 14:00

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Hey Bob, your original post was interesting. I have a suggestion for you my friend to add here.

How about flying to where your lady lives, staying in a 5 star Hotel and get two rooms or an ajoining suite, renting a nice vehicle from the local Avis, Hertz, or whatever rental car agency while there. Mercedes, Cadilliac, Continental, BMW, etc. Granted it is obvious that the gentleman pays the way. It is also stipulated to her that there are no "Strings" attached and nothing expected either. A gentleman always pays for everything as far as I am concerned. Have a fun time just allowing her to choose where she wants to go spend the time, as she might be more comfortable on her own turf than flying her to yours. She might also feel more secure if she in in her environment also, not yours. Then if all goes well, ask her if she would like you to fly her to your area (town), or another place of her choice the next time you two meet. Just a suggestion to ponder! Oh yeah, don't forget the flowers and chocolates for her when you first meet, and every time you meet also. A very important tidbit!


My thoughts exactly. There should be absolutely no expectations except with the hope that both parties will get on and like each other.



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Posted on Fri, Dec 30, 2005 12:42

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it's Ok niceguy...pass me the joint and we'll sort this out with some serious thinking.


sounds good to me Bob ! LOL



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Posted on Fri, Dec 30, 2005 12:13

Hi KatieGirl Sweetie,

I am still lol on that last statement you made:

Blonde ... why are you still single? Could you maybe teach your romantic ideas in an evening course and train hundreds of other men to think like you? LOL
Then, I think, we'd have a lot more hunks to choose from!


Ok miss Katie, We can call it Lightning Fast refresher course in Romance, LMAO. No, just kidding darling.

As for still being single, I have not been looking for a relationship, just good friendships! Too busy with running my business and traveling internationally, it would not be fair to my mate to not be able to devote the time to her as much as I would wish, nor she deserves in a relationship!

Now with that said, How have you been lil lady? We have not spoken in awhile have we? Have I missed anything darling? I hope your Christmas or Hannuka was good! I also wish you a very Happy New Year too cutie! So fill me in on the latest. Oh yeah, how is the book going you were writing or finished writing? Talk to you soon.


Hey Bob,

And I will have a spot in the trunk of my mercedes for you next time. Mercedes have huge trunks you know, lol. Just Kidding my friend. I reserved a spot in the back seat for you. My lady always rides next to me in the front seat, as it should be. I will be taking my lady friend I met here from MM to Fredrick's of Hollywood in Hollyweird, lol for a shopping spree in the next few weeks when we meet again. You are welcome to join us if you wish.

As for the hotel you stayed at in Beverly Hills, I can only think of one that you described in your last post to me. I believe you were refering to the Beverly Hills Hotel. And yes, it is elegant to say the least. The service there is beyond the five star level in Hotels. They cater to their guest over and above the top in that respect for sure. Talk to you soon!



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Posted on Fri, Dec 30, 2005 05:48

it's Ok niceguy...pass me the joint and we'll sort this out with some serious thinking.



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Posted on Fri, Dec 30, 2005 04:30

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OH give me the beat boys and free my soul...

Just got back from a great day of skiing and a wonderful dinner and lots of wine. Let's see if I can still write...

Well...let's see now. Second date fly backs? Hmmm...if I was hooked on the girl, I'd want to fly her back ASAP. Now that kind of sucks because then she is going to know I'm vulnerable. I say NO WAY! Split the ticket cost. Then you'll know it's mutual.

Secondly...you can't possibly expect someone that is tied up with so much activity to fly out to see you on the first date now can we? I'm in the middle of selling one of my Angel Investments right now for $XX million and you want me to hop on a plane to check you out? Not going to happen. You have to come meet me. I can tell you, where driving is involved, on 85% of the first dates, I've met my match at their location, not mine. So don't think I'm a jerk about it. But where flying is involved, I'm definitely not there. Not on a first date. But I will accept splitting the cost of the ticket.


Bob, I read alot of your posts and sometimes I laugh, sometimes I think, this guy has to be kidding. But I think this one really takes the cake.



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Posted on Fri, Dec 30, 2005 04:27

Katie, stay away from Blonde. He's mine. He has a spot for me in his trunk.

Blonde...absolutely, the guy pays the way...but no way I'm paying to fly the girl out to see me. Long distance relationship is tough, and not what I'm looking for.



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Posted on Fri, Dec 30, 2005 01:22

BlondeLightning write:
Hi Everyone!

Hey Bob, your original post was interesting. I have a suggestion for you my friend to add here.

How about flying to where your lady lives, staying in a 5 star Hotel and get two rooms or an ajoining suite, renting a nice vehicle from the local Avis, Hertz, or whatever rental car agency while there. Mercedes, Cadilliac, Continental, BMW, etc. Granted it is obvious that the gentleman pays the way. It is also stipulated to her that there are no "Strings" attached and nothing expected either. A gentleman always pays for everything as far as I am concerned. Have a fun time just allowing her to choose where she wants to go spend the time, as she might be more comfortable on her own turf than flying her to yours. She might also feel more secure if she in in her environment also, not yours. Then if all goes well, ask her if she would like you to fly her to your area (town), or another place of her choice the next time you two meet. Just a suggestion to ponder! Oh yeah, don't forget the flowers and chocolates for her when you first meet, and every time you meet also. A very important tidbit!


Blonde ... why are you still single? Could you maybe teach your romantic ideas in an evening course and train hundreds of other men to think like you? LOL
Then, I think, we'd have a lot more hunks to choose from!

  


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Posted on Thu, Dec 29, 2005 20:41

my friends and family would ask me if I paid to fly someone out...and I can tell you they would look down on any sort of activity like that. My mother happened to be here (a web junky herself), and she was totally impressed with this one MM girl that told me she would pay her own way out here and refused to accept any ticket I would send her. I agree...the right thing to do is to split the cost of the ticket. I already know I'm worth the investment. Every date I've had has left the woman wanting to see me a second time. Every single one of them. One of them literally attacked me. And you want me to pay the ticket out, when I'm going to spend 3 times the ticket cost on the girl when she comes to see me? I'm not the kind of guy that is going to take you to a fancy restaurant and the opera after when you come here...that's your same old, same old millionaire. We will go to a fancy restaurant (or a great diner), maybe do some snowmobiling, snowshoeing, skating, cross country skiing, downhill skiing, snowboarding...then head back for wine and a whirlpool...this time of year.



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Posted on Thu, Dec 29, 2005 16:42

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That's right goodlife, he didn't consider her his equal, so he paid the way for her first class plane ticket. My equal is going to split the cost of a ticket to show me that she is serious about seeing me, and not just fooling around. If someone can't spend $200 to see me, when I'm going to spend a thousand dollars plus on entertaining and sharing good times with them...they aren't worth the time.


Bob, I predict you're going to die a rich, worn-out, lonely, unkind, bitter old man. I feel like hugging you close for a while in sympathy.



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Posted on Thu, Dec 29, 2005 15:08

Hi Everyone!

Hey Bob, your original post was interesting. I have a suggestion for you my friend to add here.

How about flying to where your lady lives, staying in a 5 star Hotel and get two rooms or an ajoining suite, renting a nice vehicle from the local Avis, Hertz, or whatever rental car agency while there. Mercedes, Cadilliac, Continental, BMW, etc. Granted it is obvious that the gentleman pays the way. It is also stipulated to her that there are no "Strings" attached and nothing expected either. A gentleman always pays for everything as far as I am concerned. Have a fun time just allowing her to choose where she wants to go spend the time, as she might be more comfortable on her own turf than flying her to yours. She might also feel more secure if she in in her environment also, not yours. Then if all goes well, ask her if she would like you to fly her to your area (town), or another place of her choice the next time you two meet. Just a suggestion to ponder! Oh yeah, don't forget the flowers and chocolates for her when you first meet, and every time you meet also. A very important tidbit!



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