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Posted on Tue, Oct 04, 2005 14:14

I've loved being on this site and I've loved meeting everyone! There are so many good people here who have been shown in a bad light on many occasions, just to put their character at question for future fights. To denounce a false profile makes all look like trouble makers until of course it becomes obvious that it is just that...someone hiding behind the 'false profile' to attack until it is deleted from MM.

To denounce a 'real' profile who is a paying member makes that person seem like he/she is dellusional and is carrying the witch hunt too far! THATS the only reason why the true troll has remained for so long.

Yes I have noticed that you have started to trash me but you know something....I don't care!! It hurts me more to see good people trashed and slandered than ANYTHING you can say or do to me...so go for it if it means you will leave others alone!! But we both know you prefer to attack the original people who first made you look like a fool, the same ones who can't bear to let you join in the fun because I think they know who you are and what you are doing to sooooo many decent people on here.

Well, I for one owe you nothing and I will NOT hide behind a false profile to do it!

LASTONENSTOCK.....I DENOUNCE YOU!!!!!

Do your worst!! I've started this post to fit in all the insults, better to keep it all in one place don't you think?

  


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Posted on Fri, Oct 07, 2005 09:15


butterflynjax write:
Scorp.....you dont owe an apology to anyone..and furthermore you are NOT the reason that people are leaving or have left.
You are not the one who has to explain or make excuses for anyone.

As I said before ..your character speaks for itself!



I concur Butter. When a person does things over and over it makes us stand up and take notice. It then also makes us leary and very untrusting. But then it also makes us untrusting of many whom we use to be able to trust. One person can do so much damage over a period of time but it can change the way we think about each other forever.....

  


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Posted on Thu, Oct 06, 2005 16:40


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Scorp.....you dont owe an apology to anyone..and furthermore you are NOT the reason that people are leaving or have left.
You are not the one who has to explain or make excuses for anyone.

As I said before ..your character speaks for itself!



It appears there's a variety of reasons for dwindling forum/membership participation.

The past few days I've been involved in a mild heated debated in another thread titled "Sin Bin".

According to Robec8's theory the problem isn't necessary the troll(s) disruption, but primarily the DOMINANCE of regular...queens...dictators,blah-zah-zippy.

The discussion was as follows:

Bonnie88 write:
Thanks K3T and Steve especially for your sympathetic support.

Robec, as much as you may think my views are ridiculous, I believe I speak for several guest contributors as well as paid members who feel short-changed by MM for their inadequate and inconsistent standards in controlling the forum.

In law it does not matter whether there is a contractual liability that stems from a monetary exchange. As licensor of a cyber territory ,MM by inviting guests to participate on a forum, has taken on certain responsibilities to the guests, though of course they have posted a fairly inadequate disclaimer of responsibility somewhere on the site . HOwever they also reserve the right to censor any offensive material posted.

If they disclaim responsibility to anyone participating on the forum, then why exercise any censorship at all?

Who then are they trying to protect? Guests or members? Or perhaps themselves from being sued for allowing dangerous , illegal or slanderous and defamatory material to be publicly aired on their site through their own negligence in censorship?

What are the legal responsibilities of a licensor to their guests and members?

My legal training tells me that there are several gray areas here that will be of great moot points to the legal and judicial panels. MM should be taking legal advice on several issues I have raised here and thank me for rendering my services as a guest legal writer.

As for whether I want to move on, Robec, you reckon I have overstayed as guest?

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Robec8 write:

Again if you feel your rights are not being protected, Why do you continue to stay here? Instead you choose to remain and complain. I think your orginal statements are ridiculous. And now i find your legal assumptions to be the same. Again I return to my orginal statement. If you are so upset and you feel your rights are being stepped on by a few mis guided people. Then leave.
Simple as that. And Oh. I don't "reckon" anything


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Scorpio write:
Hi Robec...nice to see a guy whose not frightened to speak his mind.

May I add...is that your advice to everyone? Leave? I know a lot of people have left the site due to the insults and a lot more have decided not to join for the same reasons. But.. why should everyone leave? Why shouldn't we try to improve the site?
Voicing your opinions on the 'customer suggestion board' is one way to go about improvement. MM has improved on the site but I feel if the monitoring of the forums isn't taken into hand straight away then ..... mass exudus!!

Steve & Bonnie
I for one, do not like insultive and abusive behaviour towards others or myself and will walk away from it, so I'm da*mn sure I am not gonna pay $20 to watch it in here. Bonnie your right about other sites being created and I believe invites to trusted members are going out as we speak. : ) I will hang around for a while after my membership is up to see if the forums improve but until then I will write to MM and I will voice my opinions...right or wrong THATS my view on things.

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Robec8 write:
Hi scorpio,
I am not telling anyone to leave. All i am saying is the bottome line. If you aren't (not you)happy at a place where you think you are being slandered or don't like the way someone is acting. Then go. This is what MM offers. They do what they want. Why? Because THEY own the site. I told that other woman if she is so upset and feels she and her daily posters are being mis treated, then she should use her own suggestion and start her own web site.
You said other people have decided to leave. They left because it was their choice to do so. My personal opinion is that more people don't sign up because of the daily postings by a select few. My statement was that if this is a fee only web site then people looking to use this site as a bullentin board most likely wouldn't be here. Again it's just my .02

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K3T write:

Robec I respectfully disagree with you. On one hand you state if you(Bonnie) feel neglected by MM and your needs aren't being met then leave -- your exact quote follows.

"If you are so upset and you feel your rights are being stepped on by a few mis guided people. Then leave.
Simple as that."

Then on the other hand you proclaim you are not encouraging anyone to leave.

Also to imply that a few may have left due to the DOMINANCE(daily postings) of a select group of people in my opinion
reflect a short-sighted perspective.

If they were disenchanted they very easily could have join in the discussions thereby introducing a diverse range of views, humor and stimulation.

To suggest the simplistic "just say no/leave" solution subject the site to potential ruination and vulnerability. Which is the direction events are heading slowly on this site.

When respected and upstanding people exit one by one, their absence eventually is replaced by "questionable" individual i.e. trolls. Therefore the quality -- and intellectual content -- leaves much to be desired.

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Robec8 write:

knock3times
Those are very intelligent and well thought out words.
Again I am merely stating a fact that if someone isn't happy with the way something is run then there is two options that person has. Either stay knowing what could and probably will happen or leave and wash your hands of the situation.
I understand your point about someone joining a discussion. But why would they if their opinion is different than one of the daily posters. They will most likely be called out , labeled something or receive one of the many other childish responses well documented in other threads.
Honestly, I really have nothing more to add to this subject. I wish everyone the best of luck in whatever they do. This thread wasn't about attacking anyone just opening a constructive dialogue.
Good Luck All!!

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After all is said and done the fact remains there are several factors to consider regarding the slow demise of the forum.

Finger-pointing that it's a:

Troll Problem

Regular's Close-knit Mentality Issue

MM Diabolically Scheme

Federal Government Homeland Security Surveillance -- you name it

As it currently stand 5W is to be commended for his y*ahoo suggestion(and I too wonder how long it will take for MM to censor his post).

Let's follow 5W lead and offer positive, productive solutions instead of suspicious doubts and division.



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Posted on Thu, Oct 06, 2005 15:23

Scorp.....you dont owe an apology to anyone..and furthermore you are NOT the reason that people are leaving or have left.
You are not the one who has to explain or make excuses for anyone.

As I said before ..your character speaks for itself!

  


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Posted on Thu, Oct 06, 2005 15:01

Yes you are right 1intelligentblonde
there is none of my 'great sense of humour' on this thread for the simple reason that I don't find any of this funny! DO YOU?

I too hate malicious humour/gossip, thats why I neither post it, listen to it NOR spread it! I didn't attack Lastonenstock I called her out on it! Nor did I hide(either behind a false profile or otherwise) I spoke to the one person (by private email)who needed to know what I knew.

You say you left for a reason? Is it the same reason why many have left recently?.. and will continue to leave until only trolls remain? I didn't like what I saw happening, it was cruel and I decided to get to the bottom of it. I don't care if you or anyone else believes my statement, it was meant to stop the cruelty and it has (for now)! Do you notice that there are still a few trolls about but they are now playing nicely?? Shame is a heavy burden!

I didn't do this to be the star of the show either because I think I can call myself intelligent enough to believe I would be trashed, insulted, disbelieved
and worst of all be called a troll for causing trouble! I called a women who had been on here for a long time and probably had many friends so obviously I knew what to expect.

Let me tell you I WILL NOT issue an apology to lastonenstock! Appologies are due..but not from me or to me!



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Posted on Thu, Oct 06, 2005 14:24

Here is a way to get around trolls. Set yourself up a account on y a h o o and join their 360 system. You can create a blog, complete with a profile. You can post any subject you want to discuss to your blog and invite others to comment and post -- only those people you invite. You can block anyone you don't want to communicate with anymore. You can view and join the blog of other people, depending on your privacy settings. AND ITS ALL FREE.


lets see how long this posts last. It is now 4:20 PM CST on Thurs.



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Posted on Thu, Oct 06, 2005 14:06

I am beginning to believe that MM is responsible for the trolls, or at least helps them. Just how long did that post about Mel last? Is it still there? I am sure they had 20 people hit the abuse button and if that post lasted more than a few hours then they are either the trolls or at least helping the trolls. I saw a post of mine disappear with 3 min. once because it was critical of MM.

lets see how long this posts last. It is now 3:43 PM CST on Thurs.



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Posted on Thu, Oct 06, 2005 09:11


WrightWoodPT write:
I would love to see this fake profile problem here solved once and for all, But it probably won't. Just gonna have to deal with it, I guess. Have a little fun and not turn on each other like they want us to.

I'm busy packing bags now to go meet Cub in Vegas...Any body want to go? Not you, Love and War...LoL

Bye Guys! See you all Sunday. Be good!



Have a great time WWPT, watch your money that gambling has a way of making it disappear...LMAo

  


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Posted on Thu, Oct 06, 2005 09:08

Well this is turning into another good one. I have watch her attack many people and use others to do her dirty work and put private things on this forum to embarrass when she is very quilty of those same things and more. How so many of you seem to forget all those things. You guys know EXACTLY where is stand on Lorrie so i do not say this lightly. But Scorpio in defense of this on Mel for that i do not believe she is the quilty party.I haven't a clue who it is i think they just need to go!!!



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Posted on Wed, Oct 05, 2005 19:03


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I consider myself a very good judge of people. And I'm DA*MN SURE that NYCHICK didn't do it.
As for Lorrie, I think she has her fun occasionally with fake profiles. BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE that Lorrie is behind the fake that attacked Mel.

I'm not sure that what I read previously by Scorpio accused Lorrie of being specifically behind the fake profile that attacked Mel either. I think she was generalizing. And somewhere along the line it got twistd and turned toward Mel's attacker.

Scorpio's a great gal ... we all love her sense of humour! I think she's made friends on these forums that she cares about, and with all the fake profiles happening then Mel's incident...that crossed her threshold. Many of us have been there and can relate to how she feels.

lucksolucky is right ... let's have fun and laughter on these forums...enough fighting. There are people that read, that just might want to join and add to the diversity of our chats, but with all this dissention going on...it acts as a deterrent.


Well Sharpe I see none of Scorpio's "great sense of humour" in this thread?!?
Malicious humour at best!
Saying that this fake that attacked Mel crossed her threshold, doesn't then give her the right to attack Last. What ever problem she has with Last should be settled between them instead of hiding after posting statements like she did.

I think Last is entitled to an apology on this one! She certainly didn't do this, and to even say well she did before in this thread implies she was the one that attacked Mel.

So nice of you to invite others to post, but let's not forget a few of us who don't post often left for a reason....these malicious attacks against one another.

Don't you get it? Whom ever did go this accomplished alot with their terrorism of Mel, it also made some regulars turn on others! Thereby making them the star of the show and probably up to no good while you all fight amoungst yourselves.

So my advise is to quit fighting with each other and accusing each other of things that a third party did. Apologize and move on.

  


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Posted on Wed, Oct 05, 2005 15:09

I read NYC's "I did it" post, and know that she was just proving a point...HOWEVER...........sharp, your post was all well and good, but even tho you say, in all caps, that you don't believe Lorrie is one of the fake profiles, you might as well say she is!! You could have made that post, and left out those particulars. Aren't you the one who posted to me on another thread to "Leave it alone"??? Let's just drop these accusations and conjectures.
This is the reason I left this site a few months ago. I do, however, like to come back now and then and read some of the forum. I see it hasn't changed much over the last few months..........



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Posted on Tue, Oct 04, 2005 23:43


LASTONENSTOCK write:
Kelli! For God's sake....please tell me it wasn't you!



I began writing an email to you Lorrie ... decided to post.

Come on people!!!
When my kids were young, and someone would say or do something stupid, I remember the kids saying, "When God was handing out brains, you must have been holding the door!"

I am not intending this comment to be directed at Lorrie. It's directed to everyone, who after NYCHICK's post, is now entertaining the disbelieving thought that 'OMG, she did it!'

THINK PEOPLE!!!

Re-read this thread. What's happening? What was NYCHICK previously attempting to do? And her efforts were in vain, so facetiously she said 'she did it'. HEEELLLLLOOOO!!!
Sounds to me like she was trying to take the heat off Lorrie!

I consider myself a very good judge of people. And I'm DA*MN SURE that NYCHICK didn't do it.
As for Lorrie, I think she has her fun occasionally with fake profiles. BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE that Lorrie is behind the fake that attacked Mel.

I'm not sure that what I read previously by Scorpio accused Lorrie of being specifically behind the fake profile that attacked Mel either. I think she was generalizing. And somewhere along the line it got twistd and turned toward Mel's attacker.

Scorpio's a great gal ... we all love her sense of humour! I think she's made friends on these forums that she cares about, and with all the fake profiles happening then Mel's incident...that crossed her threshold. Many of us have been there and can relate to how she feels.

lucksolucky is right ... let's have fun and laughter on these forums...enough fighting. There are people that read, that just might want to join and add to the diversity of our chats, but with all this dissention going on...it acts as a deterrent.



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Posted on Tue, Oct 04, 2005 23:37


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wwwww123 write:

NYCHICK write:
I have spent a lot of man hours trawling through past posts to try and prove to myself you are not the troll...I did want to discuss this privately through emails but after reading some of the things you do I decided against it as I knew you would only change what I said and try to turn it against me...hence I didn't answer your email so you didn't know how I signed.

ok ok i give in-- scorp your man hours im sorry to tell you colombo - but you didnt prove a thing beyond a shadow of a doubt.. so u lose ... know who it is ?? ME yep pretty pretty me.. and to think of all those hours u spent -- ok so u are not a great dectective but i must say you did place a lot of effort into this task, only to point the finger at the wrong person.. why is your profile hidden? oh and scorp it was all done in jest and i know u have a sense of humor so lets just carry on and change the topic -- sounds good to me



I think you better explain ASAP.


Think about it 5w's...what's she doing?

Sharp do not give it away

  


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Posted on Tue, Oct 04, 2005 23:06


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NYCHICK write:
I have spent a lot of man hours trawling through past posts to try and prove to myself you are not the troll...I did want to discuss this privately through emails but after reading some of the things you do I decided against it as I knew you would only change what I said and try to turn it against me...hence I didn't answer your email so you didn't know how I signed.

ok ok i give in-- scorp your man hours im sorry to tell you colombo - but you didnt prove a thing beyond a shadow of a doubt.. so u lose ... know who it is ?? ME yep pretty pretty me.. and to think of all those hours u spent -- ok so u are not a great dectective but i must say you did place a lot of effort into this task, only to point the finger at the wrong person.. why is your profile hidden? oh and scorp it was all done in jest and i know u have a sense of humor so lets just carry on and change the topic -- sounds good to me



I think you better explain ASAP.


Think about it 5w's...what's she doing?



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Posted on Tue, Oct 04, 2005 22:26


wwwww123 write:

NYCHICK write:

ok ok i give in-- scorp your man hours im sorry to tell you colombo - but you didnt prove a thing beyond a shadow of a doubt.. so u lose ... know who it is ?? ME yep pretty pretty me.. and to think of all those hours u spent -- ok so u are not a great dectective but i must say you did place a lot of effort into this task, only to point the finger at the wrong person.. why is your profile hidden? oh and scorp it was all done in jest and i know u have a sense of humor so lets just carry on and change the topic -- sounds good to me




Just saving this for future info.

www. im pretty but also smart.. what state am i in? what state is the plaintiff in? who has the juristiction? hmm do you think this will stand up in court - wht if someone hacked my computer? god so many things could have occured? i said sorry gawd geesh



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Posted on Tue, Oct 04, 2005 21:56


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Kelli! For God's sake....please tell me it wasn't you!

oops my bad!



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Posted on Tue, Oct 04, 2005 21:53

Kelli! For God's sake....please tell me it wasn't you!



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Posted on Tue, Oct 04, 2005 21:19

lorre...lets go post on Bobbies thread....Everyone is dying to know what tp you use on your tush....

Thanks Butter Marie! (haha lol)...see you tomorrow.
bye Scorpio, by NYchick, by www,
nite John-Boy (oh that really tells on my age...)

Lucky

  


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Posted on Tue, Oct 04, 2005 19:12


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VEGAS....

Ok....lets crash.....www...the ladies are coming.....so you better get this party started....
Butter...everyone..lets post and gossip in the fun is back thread the sharp started....I want to hear about who is dating who...and stuff about us...life...kids...

Maybe we can get dom to come and post some really great uhhhh...love..type kinda stories....
You know everyone loves em'
I am into some fun,,, Come on Scorpio
an NYchick!

Love lucky!



Hey Lucky!
I would join you on that thread, but this troll stuff gets tiresome. I'm tempted to go to Vegas with the guys! lol. C'mon, lucky, go with me. Think we could find them out there? lol



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Posted on Tue, Oct 04, 2005 18:51

Ok Lucky...Ill see you over there tomorrow as its way past my bedtime. Remember...I wake up before the roosters crow.

Oh...wait...before you do..I really think you should post on Bobby's thread about what kind of toilet paper you use..hahaha.
c'mon guys..Im thinking this is Bobby's first thread and everything,,so before you go to sleep,,,please take the time...think about Cajun Bobby out there in the Bayou,,as he is wondering what type of paper you all wipe your little Booteys with.

Be nice..........

  


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