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Posted on Sun, Sep 25, 2005 10:08

steve475 write:
As a relatively new member, I'm surprised and a little disappointed at the number of fake profiles and/or irritating and obnoxious trolls polluting the forums.

I don't think non paying members should have the ability to post comments on the forums. If you have something you want to say or if you want to actually interact with people, pay the $19.95 and BECOME A MEMBER.

I mean if someone has to carefully deliberate whether they should "invest" a whole $19.95 for a 1 month membership, they probably shouldn't be on a site called MillionaireMatch.

I think this would solve the disruptive troll issue and would spare "paying" members having to put up with these pathetic losers...

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Jerseygirlupstate write:
Somebody does not have to be a millionaire to participate on the millionairematch website. It says this in the "sign up agreement" and the "terms of service". Anybody is welcome to join. Millionairematch does not discriminate against the financially unfortunate. The person's profile shows their income. If the person is not a millionaire, then they do not have the option of sharing their income status on their profile. Simple. This forum is here as a courtesy to "all" members. They don't have to have a forum at all.

I say the forum should stay for "all" member's regardless of membership status. It is a learning environment for non-paying members to decide weather they want to join and become paying members. They get a chance to see what sort of people are here. In addition, it is a place for both paying members and non-paying to interact and get to know each other. It's entertaining.

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steve475 write:
jerseygirlupstate,
Just to clarify my post, I agree that non-paying members should be able to look at profiles, read the forums, and have an opportunity to see what type of people are on this site.

The problem that I see is that the non-paying member enjoys an anonymity not afforded most "paying" members who have their personal information included in their online credit card payment. As such, MM, in theory, can actually identify who they really are if necessary.

Unfortunately, some of these fake-profile, anonymous, "members" abuse the opportunity to participate in the forums.

If you peruse a number of the forums, you will notice certain posters who fill these forums with deliberately inflammatory posts, racist and sexist comments, and personal insults. Under this cloak of anonymity, they have no qualms about making derogatory comments about members' physical appearance, age, ethnicity, etc... Given that they are essentially unidentifiable, they are free to be as disruptive as they like, intruding in forum discussions and berating and antagonizing members who are on this site with more sincere motivations.

I would also agree that members needn't be affluent. The MM appellation is probably something of a misnomer and might give one the inaccurate impression that most of it's members are elitist, something that I have not found to be the case.

The trolls are like hecklers at a comedy show or sports event, except the hecklers have actually PAID for the privilege to disrupt!

This type of juvenile behavior lessens the experience for all members but especially PAYING members who should expect more for their money.

Anyone one can go down to the local tennis club and watch people hit the ball around but if you want to hit a few yourself, why SHOULDN'T you be expected to pay for the privilege? It only seems reasonable.

"Trolls crave attention, and they care not whether it is positive or negative. They see the Internet as a mirror into which they can gaze in narcissistic rapture".

Of course if someone else has a better way to rid this site of the fake profiles and trolls, please post it.












































K3T write:
There's a saying "be careful what you ask for; you may get it".

Imagine how boring the forum(s) would be if everyone got along perfect 24/7. Life isn't like that. Why should the forum be any different?

I don't know about anyone us, but the past few days have been the most hilarious, unpredictable, entertaining and outrageous on the forums I've seen in a long time.

This may seem peculiar but once the fakes are gone I suffer a sense of loss, similar to the morning after a great party and all that's left are the empty liquor bottles, deflated balloons on the floor, half-eaten plates of food scattered about, and all that's left are your memories of the great time that was had.

Yes as Steve475 stated fakes/troublemakers can be disruptive but they also serve a useful purpose:

I howled with laughter when Love&War stated women who pose in a bra & underwear are nothing more than homewrecker.

Ready2B offered advice to Cupcake on the "how do I get IM" thread regarding virtue & morals, in addition to his terrorist plot theory seemed straight out of a spy novel and was unbelievable to say the least. You got to admit, he was an original.

Love&war slapped a restraining order on NYC for cyber-stalking, not to mention she insulted Asian, the men in the military, questioned Sharp's age and showed her nurturing side to a saddened BBW woman.

Ciaobaby and I were ready to feud in the streets of Jersey/Chicago with the Soprano's vs. Boyz in the hood. Why haven't HBO thought of that or a SNL monologue? That would be a helluva fight and outrageously funny on SNL.

Jennygrl made it known she wasn't too thrill with what she has seen and read.

Isn't it all wonderful! There's never a dull moment.

Nor is it for the faint of heart. For those that are non-judgmental and/or not lacking in self-esteem it's a great place to exchange viewpoints on current events, tell jokes, swap beauty tips, extend get-well wishes, trade insults -- it's not easy being a b*itch, in order to be skillful and effective at the title it requires perfect timing, creative and strategy; try it sometime -- unmasking intentionally mean-spirited fakes, share travel adventures etc.

Some may argue, I turn to the forum to escape life and the negativity is a bad example to expose to newbies and I agree.

However the veteran posters have quickly developed a sense of identifying trouble-makers and spotting tell-tell signs and blowing the whistle. As WWPT Love&War/Ready2B targets specific people, those he/she had a grievance or unfinished business with. From time to time the attacks were random such as Alpine or Beaulebabe but for the most part the MO stayed on course.

I don't want to leave anyone with the impression I'm advocating chaos and/or disorder, primarily this is to point out the fake/troll's "positive" contribution. Isn't that ironic.

If not for the controversial antics of bad boys/girls of Petite, Dom, Weelassy, Fun4Two, NYC, Steve/Sweendog, Speeddallas, K3T, Orion, Spoilurotten, Andy/Edtarboosh and various villainous cast of characters the forum would be your average, everyday, going through the motions I'll take a #2 on the menu selection. Although we are good at being bad, we generally know where to draw the line.

Until MM implement foolproof safeguards -- who's to say instituting mandatory payment to participate will deter ego boost seekers; $20 bucks is a small price to pay to get one's kicks -- our best offense is a good defense.

There are various options at our disposal. Ignoring the attention craving hate-mongers, trade banter until the line of mean-spirited, slanderous and ethnic stereotypical remarks are crossed at which point report the offender to MM, abandon and avoid the thread altogether after realizing it is not your cup of tea, no one is putting a gun to our heads to witness a train wreck. For those that are timid, and you should know who you are, if not perhaps you shouldn't be at a site dedicated to sophisticated, affluent, and educated individuals, look the other way. There's always the alternative of some pull-at-the-heartstring movie on Lifetime. Or better yet, an actual date movie.

One size doesn't fit all and that is the beauty and uniqueness of choice.

The forum is fun for those who take it as it is meant to be. A form of entertainment. And entertaining it is. There are various personalities from sweet Cat, Butter, Sixfeet and Maayan. Professor 5W's appreciation of ugly women. Good sport Aunt Clara/Minerva. Bonnie's & Fun4Two's occasional sophisticated sarcasm and finesse. Conversationalist Katigrl. Intelligent Sharp & S4U. Goodlife's take on the Lifestyle of the Rich & Famous. Sensible and even-tempered Cubbie. Bikini brickhouse Lastone. Dish it out & take it Ciaobaby. WWPT's witty and brilliant observations, btw thanks for outing Love&war/Natalia8, who knew, well except your eagle eye that is. Lovely Weelassy's brilliance and compassion and NYC -- well -- I'm beginning to think man has not yet found the words to describe this remarkable woman...a combination of "c" caring, calculating, conceited(and if I was hauling around those badge of honor of yours I would be too), and complex.

A wealth of personalities, life experiences and characteristics.

Ain't Misbehavin? Get real! Not on this site.



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Posted on Mon, Sep 26, 2005 10:02

K3T and NY Chick,

Both of you make valid points in defense of open posting for all. Perhaps, as a relative newbie, I believed that the goings on of the last week or so were typical of the activity on the forums here.

Certainly LoveandWar's trolling was pretty entertaining (if only because she/he was so inept at it!). I'll have to agree that that whole saga was actually quite amusing....heehee

The other troll, Ready2 was another story as his/her comments were consistently rude and offensive. Sure, one can choose to ignore them, but it's like being in a supposedly upscale club chatting with your friends and this obnoxious drunk keeps yelling obscenities in your ear.

I guess MM will have to come up with a solution for solving the troll problem. They seem to censor relatively tame photos really quickly so it seems to me they could apply the same vigor to removing offensive trolls. :)



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Posted on Mon, Sep 26, 2005 09:40

NYChick thanks for sharing your thoughts. Good perspective.



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Posted on Mon, Sep 26, 2005 09:14


ciaobaby7 write:
If you want to see if they r real or not just freakin' cam with them, geesh! LOL



There yah go. LOL



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Posted on Mon, Sep 26, 2005 08:01

If you want to see if they r real or not just freakin' cam with them, geesh! LOL



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Posted on Mon, Sep 26, 2005 07:38


Cub39 write:

sharp1 write:

Cub39 write:
Good job WrightWood,
You boiled it all down to one word: trust.

The fakes shatter trust on a dating site.



What are you talking about Cubby??? He stole it from me!
quote Sharp1:
"A dating site requires a strong foundation of trust that the other members you are communicating with are real and not fakes!"
LOL



Good job Sharp,
You boiled it all down to one word: trust.

The fakes shatter trust on a dating site.



I agree the issue is trust.

Does anyone have solid solutions to this serious matter?



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Posted on Mon, Sep 26, 2005 06:11


NYCHICK write:
Ok i have remained silent and have kept an open mind on this topic. But lets look at the reality of this.
First off MM does not screen nor really ask for any info other then cc# that is their goal. So even those who sprang for the 19.95 per month and are gold members does not exclude them from being fake or complete whackos. This is the internet - whats real what is not? who knows.
Do i think MM has a conspiracy? in some ways the chaos and havoc actually brings forth more members who just happen to breeze in and could not help but join in on the saga.

As for the people who may be offended and some who are not and simply take it as a statement made in jest- its like Howard Stern - u either ignore it and move on or participate.. its a choice. Yes this is a dating site but for some it is also a place to simply have a cup of coffee and communicate... Lord knows i love the girls here but i am not lookng to date any of them ( maybe susan)..each person is different and offers something - good or bad. You take what u want and leave the rest behind. As for the paying member status of being allowed to post.. anyone can tell you internet can be an addiction.. so many start as non paying memebers until like a drug they are hooked into the drama and spring for the 19.95.

I think the key word for this site is the word Millionaire- lol.. there are fakes in real life and online and everywhere.. u listen to what someone says then watch their actions-- the truth lies in the actions. so i say feel free to post, voice your thoughts and opinions, try not to intentional hurt someone, and for some others i say try to lighten up.. i have to say more paying members break chops then non paying.. take a look.. This site is no different then any other.. so either go with the flow or not. 19.95 does not make this an elite cicle of people.
i for one would like to see a millionaire site that has strict policy where they screen their clients and check for accuracy.. come on mm owns many sites and at 20 bucks a pop what do they care who is real who is fake..
look at the key words they use" super models" Elite" Wealthy" all for 19.95

hey my 19.95 per month for some of these funny chicks is far better then any stand up club i have gone to..

i think perhaps the person who creates a genuine site for wealthy people will actually find themselves in a very good postition.. This site does not care. So if it really bothers some i wonder why they continue to pay and not move on? hmm just my thoughts..



My thoughts exactly in addressing this issue.

It seem you and I are on the same page NYC.

Cubbie you misintrepreted my intention. My point was precisely the same as NYC. Basically until MM put safeguards into place, our only option is to enjoy/ignore both the positive and negative of the site.



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Posted on Mon, Sep 26, 2005 05:07

Yea Cubbie..I was thinking it first though. Hush up, Sharp..let a guy look smart every now and then. It makes us feel big. Then we get bold and make our big moves on one of you girls. That's how things work around here...LOL


Yea,like what do you expect for $19.95 /mo? 100% real people all the time.

I'm getting like knock3times...I'm trying to enjoy "our" fakes and even embrace them. They're little obnoxious red headed step children, But they're ours.



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Posted on Sun, Sep 25, 2005 21:09

Ok i have remained silent and have kept an open mind on this topic. But lets look at the reality of this.
First off MM does not screen nor really ask for any info other then cc# that is their goal. So even those who sprang for the 19.95 per month and are gold members does not exclude them from being fake or complete whackos. This is the internet - whats real what is not? who knows.
Do i think MM has a conspiracy? in some ways the chaos and havoc actually brings forth more members who just happen to breeze in and could not help but join in on the saga.

As for the people who may be offended and some who are not and simply take it as a statement made in jest- its like Howard Stern - u either ignore it and move on or participate.. its a choice. Yes this is a dating site but for some it is also a place to simply have a cup of coffee and communicate... Lord knows i love the girls here but i am not lookng to date any of them ( maybe susan)..each person is different and offers something - good or bad. You take what u want and leave the rest behind. As for the paying member status of being allowed to post.. anyone can tell you internet can be an addiction.. so many start as non paying memebers until like a drug they are hooked into the drama and spring for the 19.95.

I think the key word for this site is the word Millionaire- lol.. there are fakes in real life and online and everywhere.. u listen to what someone says then watch their actions-- the truth lies in the actions. so i say feel free to post, voice your thoughts and opinions, try not to intentional hurt someone, and for some others i say try to lighten up.. i have to say more paying members break chops then non paying.. take a look.. This site is no different then any other.. so either go with the flow or not. 19.95 does not make this an elite cicle of people.
i for one would like to see a millionaire site that has strict policy where they screen their clients and check for accuracy.. come on mm owns many sites and at 20 bucks a pop what do they care who is real who is fake..
look at the key words they use" super models" Elite" Wealthy" all for 19.95

hey my 19.95 per month for some of these funny chicks is far better then any stand up club i have gone to..

i think perhaps the person who creates a genuine site for wealthy people will actually find themselves in a very good postition.. This site does not care. So if it really bothers some i wonder why they continue to pay and not move on? hmm just my thoughts..



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Posted on Sun, Sep 25, 2005 19:50


Cub39 write:
Good job WrightWood,
You boiled it all down to one word: trust.

The fakes shatter trust on a dating site.



What are you talking about Cubby??? He stole it from me!
quote Sharp1:
"A dating site requires a strong foundation of trust that the other members you are communicating with are real and not fakes!"
LOL



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Posted on Sun, Sep 25, 2005 19:46


steve475 write:
k3t,

I will respectfully disagree with you and maintain my original argument (once again Sharp, you and I see eye to eye.. ;)

The primary mission of this site, unless I'm mistaken, is indeed a personal dating site for singles. Having said this, I find that the best way to get to know people and interact with them is on the forums (and NOT the IM "who is online" feature which is really lame).

Surely there are enough interesting "real" people on this site that we don't require a bunch of obnoxious, fake profile trolls to make the forums entertaining?!? As Sharp pointed out, if this site loses it's credibility with members because it is infested with fake profiles and fake photos then it's done.

People who are honest and forthright and pay to become members deserve better than being deceived and duped.



You're correct Steve, we deserve better than being deceived and duped. But LAST brings up a valid point regarding posts she made that were removed for unknown reasons, yet others o the thread were left. There was nothing wrong with her posts. WWPT reported that some of his posts were also removed from the same thread, and another. That is either MM, or someone breaking into the MM system and tampering...in which case all of our personal and credit card information is susceptible to theft. Such an infraction is extremely serious. MM has yet to address this months ago when it was raised with them.

K3T also brings up a valid point...2 wks ago on the "The Fun Is Gone" thread, S4U quoted myself, and wrote a post that through mediation behind the scenes was decided that all would be deleted. S4U deleted her post. If she had saved it to re-post later, it would have changed it's original sequence...just as it does when one edits their post. But this did not happen. A week later S4U's post showed up exactly in the same sequence it was originally posted. MM would be the only people who could do that, or someone breaching the systems security and tampering.

Food for thought, for everyone on MM. Is our personal and credit information safe? Or is MM playing the Jerry Springer scenario on it's members?



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Posted on Sun, Sep 25, 2005 19:24

This place was starting to remind me of the "Green room" at the Jerry Springer show this last week.

Stimulating conversation is a small gain compared to the loss of Trust.
If the fakes could just go away before attacking people, then the attention would be more positive.
Too bad they have an agenda.



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Posted on Sun, Sep 25, 2005 18:02

You're such a gentleman. I love it when members can reach a happy-medium.

Thank you Steve. Not only for your viewpoint but also for not filing a royalty claim for "unauthorized use" of your post. (lol)

Frankly I begun this thread to start a dialog AROUND your post. I felt it needed added exposure and was not receiving the attention it deserve in the "customer suggestion board".

Who am I kidding? In addition to the selfish motive of addressing a personal matter involving myself and giving voice to all the misunderstood that have come before me.

Am I brilliant or what? Hmmmm maybe I am capable of juggling all those naughty deeds I've been accused of.

J.R. Ewing eat your heart out.

  


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Posted on Sun, Sep 25, 2005 17:35

k3t,

I will respectfully disagree with you and maintain my original argument (once again Sharp, you and I see eye to eye.. ;)

The primary mission of this site, unless I'm mistaken, is indeed a personal dating site for singles. Having said this, I find that the best way to get to know people and interact with them is on the forums (and NOT the IM "who is online" feature which is really lame).

Surely there are enough interesting "real" people on this site that we don't require a bunch of obnoxious, fake profile trolls to make the forums entertaining?!? As Sharp pointed out, if this site loses it's credibility with members because it is infested with fake profiles and fake photos then it's done.

People who are honest and forthright and pay to become members deserve better than being deceived and duped.



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Posted on Sun, Sep 25, 2005 16:52


knock3times write:

sharp1 write:

Here's another thought...I realize that there are some members who actually create fake profiles, but sometimes I wonder if MM itself is not behind some of it? Has that ever crossed anyone else's mind?



Sharp I too have wondered that very same thing.

Do anyone recall last weekend when MM resuscitated the deleted post of Lastone/Sharp/S4U on the "fun is gone" thread? It was very strange and bizarre.

Now the question is "why would a site proclaiming to cater to upscale individuals attempt to create a Jerry Springer/National Inquirer like atmosphere?"

Sound like a case for Charlie's Angels.



ok, I'm ready.

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Posted on Sun, Sep 25, 2005 16:18


sharp1 write:

Here's another thought...I realize that there are some members who actually create fake profiles, but sometimes I wonder if MM itself is not behind some of it? Has that ever crossed anyone else's mind?



Sharp I too have wondered that very same thing.

Do anyone recall last weekend when MM resuscitated the deleted post of Lastone/Sharp/S4U on the "fun is gone" thread? It was very strange and bizarre.

Now the question is "why would a site proclaiming to cater to upscale individuals attempt to create a Jerry Springer/National Inquirer like atmosphere?"

Sound like a case for Charlie's Angels.

  


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Posted on Sun, Sep 25, 2005 16:00

That's a very good point, Sharp. I was discussing that with a few of the members today. Two of my pics that I posted on posts concerning l&w(i.e. the fish ring and the fish dress for a baby) were removed by MM, yet the actual post remained. Perhaps MM thinks this will add a certain spark to the interaction with others. I don't see it that way, but it is a thought.



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Posted on Sun, Sep 25, 2005 14:44

I agree with Steve475 and Butter. This is a dating site, which continues to lose its credibility amongst long standing members, as well as, amongst newbies who read the slanderous posts by the overwhelming number of fake profiles that continuously pop up to create havoc on the forums.

A dating site requires a strong foundation of trust that the other members you are communicating with are real and not fakes! That trust has been breached one too many times by too many fake profile creators, thus creating the paranoia that ciababy mentions.

The drama and excitement that you describe in your post K3T, to me is reminiscent of "The Jerry Springer Show", the rag papers such as "The Star", & the "National Enquirer". It does not belong on a dating site.

The name of this site Millionaire Match is indicative of a higher clientelle, which would be above such petulant, peevish, and immature behaviour, warranting higher moral, integrity, success and intellectual standards.

When the destructive drama by fake profiles exists to the extent that it does on MM, it only causes MM to lose it's credibility as a dating site. I do not watch the "Jerry Spring Show", but it's reputation is well known. Nor do I purchase such rag papers as the National Enquirer. They are sensational vitriol.

I think you are right Butter, maybe MM should be charging a minimal fee of $10.00/month for non-preferred members to enjoy the privilege of posting in order to reduce the number of fake profiles. There will always be someone willing to pay that $10 for a month once in awhile, but not on a regular basis. And only someone very determined will actually pay it so they can have their fake profile post!

Here's another thought...I realize that there are some members who actually create fake profiles, but sometimes I wonder if MM itself is not behind some of it? Has that ever crossed anyone else's mind?

  


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Posted on Sun, Sep 25, 2005 14:28

Yes it's insane but until MM address the issue there appear to be nothing we can do about it but ignore the abusive, psychotic, and attention seeking troublemakers.

Can anyone recommend a better solution? Feel free to enlighten us please.



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Posted on Sun, Sep 25, 2005 13:22

K3T ..you forgot to mention yourself, the ever present , alert, eloquent poster who is sexy and vivacious..the forum would be poorer without all these colorful characters that add such spice to our lives in different corners of the world.

This cyber-community allows us to vent our pain, frustration and deep emotional angst that we would never have the guts to do so face to face..a sort of cyber-psycho therapy which we all need.

It is also a sort of abstract peep show into each other's lives . We see more for those who dare brave their bare anatomy , their physical assets. For some who bare their souls , we offer comfort or offensive therapy...and at times it would seem like fiction , the suspension of disbelief in our true life dramas...

I do think that Butter your idea of a lesser price for only forum participants is a good idea especially for those who live in a different time zone and often find the IM irrelevant.BUt it would be a sad loss indeed to eliminate all those active posters who for various reasons have chosen to be ghosts and that includes me..I m already moving on to investigate my children's favorite site 'Myspace.c o m' which is free and I am impersonating as a teenager to see what goes on there and to keep abreast of what my kids are up to. CAre to join me there folks, it is all free set up by some teenager...lol



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