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  • View author's info Author Posted on Sep 02, 2005 at 04:34 AM

    What the hell happened? What I am seeing in NO and neighboring cities, is not only disturbing but mind boggling. These are conditions and sites we read and see in national geographic from disaster's in third world countries.Who would have ever thought that American people would have to be subjected to watch fellow Americans literally dying on the streets because they have no food or water. While our government takes their sweet time gathering and authorizing resources, the continued reports show conditions that are inhabitable to animals, nevermind human beings.This is a disgrace!
    I am disgusted, saddened and furious all a t the same time. There is no time for BS, just get these people out!. You have people interfering with rescue efforts? shoot their azzes down, period! Yes there are some "scum" there too, even before this disaster happened. But you can't turn you're back on tens of thousands of decent people because of a handful of bad apples. I don;t understand why most didn;t evacuate myself, but right now it's irrevelant. I am not a liberal nor much of a political junkie, I am just a realist. A t this point I can give two damns who's right or wrong, the situations continue to worsen. People are dying, women being ra-ped, children starving, poeple are shooting..The more time our government takes, the worse it will continue to get. We have other countries/cities willing to help, bring em' on in!!. We are always the first to jump in when other countries are in need and now its our turn. The Tsunami victims received food drops from the US, TWO days after the disaster arose, So save it with the sad story Mr. head of FEMA, and I quote "we just found out they had no food or water". What a crock! Funny how we all knew. There is no way in because of the potentially dangerous conditions? BS..Harry Conick Junior managed to get in, CNN and other news casts continue to get in, Sooo , what is the REAL problem?

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  • View author's info Posted on Sep 04, 2005 at 04:11 PM

    ciaobaby7 write:

    My prayers are with you and those around you..Keep the faith!

    thanks but pray for those in nola they need it worse at least i still have my home
  • View author's info Posted on Sep 04, 2005 at 03:53 PM


    My prayers are with you and those around you..Keep the faith!
  • View author's info Posted on Sep 04, 2005 at 03:52 PM

    Weelassy- I know what you are saying and as each day goes by and I continue learning more I just become more and more frustrated. I wish I had answers as to why our government took and continues to take their time whether it be providing help or accepting it. I never in my 34 years of living thought I would ever see what I have saw this past week in the United States of America. I finally realized that even in a state of a disaster as such, politics still plays a part. Well you know something, I've had it! My whole perception of certain things has completely changed because of all of this and it's quite disturbing. I feel that my country has betrayed their own. For years we've watched our government intervene with foreign countries in need. Hell, we had our own military personnel risk their own lives for protecting other countries simply because we have to get our nosey azzes in everyones business. We open the borders to pretty much everyone, providing healthcare, schooling, small business loans and housing while coroorate America continues to outsource work to India,the philippines and other countries for much lesser pay rates leaving hard working americans jobless. We shouldnt have starving people in America, PERIOD!Damn, we even trained the 9/11 hijackers how to fly a plane! how nice of us..
    Does the "richest country" in the World EVER look out for their own?
    I love my country and there is no place I'd rather be, but we are in trouble and the sooner our goverment puts their pride aside for a minute or two the better off we'd be.
    There are sso many unanswered questions right now, racial issues, blame games etc...I persnally could care less at this point to why some didnt/couldnt leave, everyone has a story and we just dont know. I personally dont care who were poor, who were wealthy, blk, white, old or young, they needed help. we had to sit and watch feeling helpless as they begged and pleaded for food , water and medicine. Those ignorant "losers" who have comitted crimes OTHER than looting for FOOD, WATER and life saving neccessities there time for punishment will come. A few BAD apples , should NOT reflect on the rest who happen to be decent, hard working people living paycheck to paycheck to support their families, period!

    I sure hope they accept you're offer, thats extremely sweet of you!! Keep me posted...

  • View author's info Posted on Sep 03, 2005 at 10:29 PM

    its BAD down here not as bad here in al as nola we FINALLY got power today. i did notice georgia power was here in al tho not al power

    controlled chaos with evacuees here in town im only 5 hrs away from there. its such a nightmare i have met people all week from nola i cry with them every day. the heatbreak...
  • View author's info Posted on Sep 03, 2005 at 02:42 PM

    No worries Ciaobaby about being frustrated I too am. I posted about this very thing on the honesty thread. Here is what i SAID. But before you read it I want to further add that I am p*issed off a t George Bush for telling our Prime minister Paul Martin on the telephone quote thanks for the help but we are trying to determine the needs right now...what a croak....THE Canadian military put troops on standby and prepared to load ships with gear and equipment. The Canadian red cross also was sending 200 experienced disaster workers to bolster the American red cross staff.

    I myself am on standby but the idiots are not taking up my offer...infact they have not called me back. I called a # 1 888 886 3998 (help) advertised on CNN. I am very fortunate to have support from the hospital I service to take a leave of absence and the family support to watch my child...So why in the Hell am I not there? I am so frustrated because I know I can help with providing care and hopefully prevent some deaths.....these people deserve to live
    Sorry for venting guys

    My goodness....you want honesty that I can provide. How dare the president allow these individual suffer and die as we sit and wait....Canada needs approval from the U.S

    What a shame all ones energy is focused on she said he said. Have we all lost compassion and sensitivity? I believe everyones attention should be redirected to the castrophic event that just occured in New Orleans. I am sure all members are sicked with this natural disaster. But do you really understand the ramification this will cost the members of society? Lets look beyond for one moment about the loss of homes/businesses and cost it will take to repair. Not only were lives lost but the pain these precious souls are going to continue to experience is far worse then one can imagine. I will skip through all this mumbo jumbo and explian the worst I see about to come. Not diminishing nor forgetting the survivors still not found due to the rescue/search team put on halt because of the violence/shooting/beatings/rapings....con't below
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    weelassy1 (view my profile)
    (Woman,36, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada )
    Posted 02-SEP-05

    The hospitals which lost their back up generators which provided ventilation the the intubated patients and as a result some were bagged artificially from the staff for hours a time....the babies in the Neonatal units ect.

    The worst I see to come is many more lives being lost due to lack of first aid and medical supplies. Think about the people that were injured....simply things that most take for granted I.E simple scratch/cut/bite is @ great risk for bacterial growth that could lead to infection then septicemia which will result without treatment amputation and most certainetly death.

    Lets not forget about the people with compromised immune systems that require even the most basics of bronchodilators...cardiac meds ect....con't again
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    weelassy1 (view my profile)
    (Woman,36, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada )
    Posted 02-SEP-05

    The list goes on unfortunately. In the heat and dampnest/moist areas that they are surrounded in is a bugs best friend. They are surrounded by contaminated water due to the decomposing bodies/animals....the very water they walk in and some have even drank for survival means...some whom have not drank it have died as a result of dehydration because they are still stuck on roof tops or under debris and the Moms that were unable to provide liquid to there infants/toddlers....what a shame....so people give the wee head a shake and stop this silly banter and start praying for your fellow man

  • View author's info Posted on Sep 03, 2005 at 06:24 AM

    Watching the news again this morning//I see we also have another problem...it seems there are some people of Color calling the RACE CARD AGAIN!!!!!!

    First of all I want to make this clear...I am NOT prejudice..a.t. all! OK now what the he*l*l..... I am so sick in tired of everytime something really bad happens to people of color..there are some out there that will use that one.
    What I see is a lot of poor WHITE..AND BLACK , people..who were warned about this storm..4 days prior to landfall..they were begged to leave..
    There were a lot that couldnt leave because of their financial state..or illnesses...thats understandable..
    But it really bothers me to know that they are turning this into a Race issue once again.
    The area is predominately Black...if you look a.t Mississsippi..it seems there
    are more whit in that area..however..they are not getting any better treatment than N.O.
    Its only that the areas are more accessable to reach,,as the water is all over N.O.
    Yes Im sure Bush should have reacted quicker..but if you take a step back and see from the gov. side of it..this is not just a small area to deal with..its HUGE..there are victims over 3 states involved..I have news for the people caling the Race card..Punta Gorda FL where there was a lot of damage last year..didnt get there relief right away either! Some of the areas had no power for months down there..same with Andrew victims in Homestead Fl.
    These people who are raping..need to be shot on the spot..I dont care if they are black OR white..shoot them!!!
    I can understand looting..they are hungry,,but a lot of them are selling the goods charging a LOT of money..those types need to be repremanded immediately. The Fires started..whats up with that?
    Why are they starting fires?
    I think that what will happen is ..if they keep acting like animals..then Americans arent going to help them a.t all!I saw other GOOD Citizens of N.O.who were Black..i might add.. saying that they are embarassed of that kind of behavior..and thay will never return to N.O. because of this.
    The police force even walked off the job to join the looting..what does that say?
    there has been a lot of focus on N.O. but Mississippi is in just as bad of shape..it is only dryer,,but they have lost everything too..but they arent raping and shooting each other..or the rescue workers..thats ridiculous!
    This is a time where these people should be pulling together,,not hurting each other....since when do people get hor*ney from a disaster? RA*PE!!!!!! DURING A DISASTER..... totally uncalled for..they need to be shot!

    by the way..MM since when is the word a t not allowed..i had to space the word a t..
    they need to take english lessons!!!!
  • View author's info Posted on Sep 03, 2005 at 04:43 AM

    It's about frickin' time!! Last night around supper time, we were told by our media that the U.S. FINALLY accepted our military help and supplies!!!! I'll NEVER understand why they didn't accept it sooner!!
  • View author's info Posted on Sep 02, 2005 at 11:37 PM

    I am so glad you all are putting this info on here like this.As times i am working days and evenings i see it on all day but i can not pay attention to it. Bits and pieces do not make a whole picture. I knew nothing about the US not excepting help from others. I hope our Mr. Bush does not plan on letting us bare this burden alone. I have never seen or heard of so many donations being made all over the country. It amazes me how seeing everyone around the country is rallying. People are opening their homes all over the south. I heard to day Bush was going to release funds to assist the ones who are "assisting" I have mixed emotions about that as this will no doubt open up fraudulant request. I heard a story here in Dallas about a woman who opened up her 3 bedroom home and put 40 people in there with her. I believe they had her on TV. I can not even imagine 40 people in one 3 BR home. It seems that would be a very dangerous thing to do. Close proximity, Health problems but they are doing it. Dililah( a very well know radio DJ all over the country) made a statement tonight while i was driving home. She said She has not been able to wrap her mind around this as it is so herendous. I think we are all like that. We see how bad it is but i have a hard time taking it all in..
    I heard they were asking in Washington how this could have ever happened. From what i have watched, heard and seen this would not be happening if only the Levy had not broke. It appears to have been poor planning for many years back in keeping the levy strong in every area that mattered. It saddens me to see such a great historical City such as New Orleans sitting underwater never to be the same again. I did hear today where the military were given the order to "shoot to kill" because of the crime wave that has been going on.. In this a catch 22. Thanks all of you who are sharing the issues here.....
  • View author's info Posted on Sep 02, 2005 at 04:58 PM

    i keep telling myself least im not in new orleans but...
  • View author's info Posted on Sep 02, 2005 at 04:54 PM

    Elle40 write:
    your not down here in the middle of it like i am keep your mouth shut about what you have not seen first hand and no nothing about ok...

    sorry ya'll i have not had a hot shower in 5 days now...and we have to eat out every meal and the city is overrun with evacuees she just p**** me off

    Thank the Good Lord you have accessibilty to a warm meal:)
  • View author's info Posted on Sep 02, 2005 at 04:30 PM

    Toonces write:
    and where are all the other countries that we always jump in to help. I've heard 6 or 8 have offered help, but where are they, we are always first on site to help. HELLO!!!

    over 60 countries have offered to help and the US has not accepted there offers...
  • View author's info Posted on Sep 02, 2005 at 04:29 PM

    your not down here in the middle of it like i am keep your mouth shut about what you have not seen first hand and no nothing about ok...

    sorry ya'll i have not had a hot shower in 5 days now...and we have to eat out every meal and the city is overrun with evacuees she just p**** me off
  • View author's info Posted on Sep 02, 2005 at 03:47 PM

    Toonces write:
    and where are all the other countries that we always jump in to help. I've heard 6 or 8 have offered help, but where are they, we are always first on site to help. HELLO!!!

    Our Prime Minister talked to President Bush yesterday and as a result of that communication this is being reported.

    "We're waiting to be told how our aid can best be directed.

    "The Americans have said to us, 'Listen we're not in a position to take this. We have to set up coordinating bodies.' Once they are set up, we will be able to do it. But for us just to land there in the midst of a lot of chaos really wouldn't do anybody any good."

    Canada will increase oil exports as requested by the International Energy Agency and has dispatched military ships, aircraft and personal to the affected areas.

    On a more personal basis Air Canada is providing rescue flights to evacuate New Orleans and has launched an in-flight Red Cross donations program for the victims
  • View author's info Posted on Sep 02, 2005 at 02:59 PM

    well heres the answer to where all the other counties are....sit down for this!

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - More than 20 countries, from allies Germany and Japan to prickly Venezuela and poor Honduras, have offered to help the United States cope with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

    Accustomed to being a rich donor rather than on the receiving end of charity, the United States seemed reticent about accepting foreign aid. The hurricane devastated New Orleans and other parts of the U.S. Gulf Coast, killing hundreds and possibly thousands.

    The United Nations offered to help coordinate international relief efforts for the United States.

    "The sheer size of this emergency makes it possible that we can supplement the American response with supplies from other countries, or with experience we have gained in other relief operations," U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said in a statement.

    Earlier, President George W. Bush said in a television interview that the United States could take care of itself.

    "I'm not expecting much from foreign nations because we hadn't asked for it. I do expect a lot of sympathy and perhaps some will send cash dollars. But this country's going to rise up and take care of it," Bush told ABC's "Good Morning America."

    McCormack said there had not been a change of position over accepting foreign aid.

    The U.S. State Department said offers so far had come from Belgium, Canada, Russia, Japan, France, Germany, Britain, China, Australia, Jamaica, Honduras, Greece, Venezuela, the Organisation of American States, NATO, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Greece, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Mexico, South Korea, Israel and the United Arab Emirates.
    Assistance ranged from medical teams, boats, aircraft, tents, blankets, generators and cash donations.


    Australian Prime Minister John Howard told Australian radio that everyone's thoughts and sympathy should be with America.

    "This idea that 'well they're the most powerful, wealthiest country in the world' -- but when something like this strikes, the poor and the vulnerable are the same all around the world," Howard said.

    Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon wrote to Bush offering medical teams.

    "During these difficult times, we, the people of Israel stand firmly by your side in a show of solidarity and friendship," said the letter, which was released by the Israeli Embassy in Washington.

    Where the United States really needs help is getting cheap oil and the Bush administration will be approaching Arab nations and other oil producers over the coming days.

    Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, a vocal critic of the United States, offered to send cheap fuel, humanitarian aid and relief workers to the disaster area.
  • View author's info Posted on Sep 02, 2005 at 02:02 PM

    yes the diseases, yet another problem we will face going forward. They speak about possible "outbreaks" which will only spread more rapidly especially now that some are being moved to different cities. This is a nightmare! All we can do right now is open our wallets and pray as they are not allowing civilians in to help a t this time. I do know that National Guard Units around the country are accepting cases of water and some other supplies from those who wish to donate!! I see some troops have finally arrived with food and water, it's about time!! The majority of the people were so dehydrated all they wanted was water, no food, brought tears to my eyes. And yeah, where are the other countries now?? hmmm!!
    Has anyone heard of any animal rescue groups coming in? It broke my heart when i saw a little boy scream and cry when they took his little dog away to evacuate him via bus, no pets allowed:(
  • View author's info Posted on Sep 02, 2005 at 01:38 PM

    Ciao...i hafta agree with you also..this is so disturbing to me..its getting worse there every minute of the day.
    I cant understand either why they cant get in...why cant they drop the stuff in from a helicopter..thats BS.,.there is no excuse for this..
    I think that the rapist need to be shot on the spot..as well as the shooters.What is this country coming too?
    There are going to be numerous diseases coming from those areas also which will make the death toll climb to horrendous proportions..
    I cant even imagine being in there place...They are talking about things like Mosquito born diseases..along with Collorea..and west Nile..etc...it is going to get much worse than that....
    Something must be done..I know that there has been a lot of donations..so they cant use the excuse that they dont have enough money...Walmart even gave 19 million..there is simply no excuse for the delay!!!!
    Im so mad....Im sickened every time I turn on the news..I have friends that were going to go and lend a hand..and they wont even let them in there..its crazy!!!!!!!
  • View author's info Posted on Sep 02, 2005 at 01:32 PM

    I heard an interview yesterday with one or our Canadian top-ranking military here saying that we have 3 ships, trucks and helicopters loaded with supplies, just waiting to get the official OK from the U.S. Government, but up until now, no word from the U.S.... Isn't that weird or what!!!
  • View author's info Posted on Sep 02, 2005 at 12:30 PM

    and where are all the other countries that we always jump in to help. I've heard 6 or 8 have offered help, but where are they, we are always first on site to help. HELLO!!!
  • View author's info Posted on Sep 02, 2005 at 11:40 AM

    Hmm interesting input so far and I should concentrate on providing solutions rather then commenting on the past. But from beginning to end the impact of Katrina on New Orleans could have been avoided. This is a quote from the New York Times of 2002 "The city would be trapped inside the levees, steeped in a worsening witches brew' of pollutants like sewage, landfill waste, chemical and the bodies of drowned humans and animals". All these warning fell on deaf ears due to incompetent politicians, all levels of Government and misinformed environmental activists. These are the same folks trying to clean up the mess, so why are you surprised a*t the incompetents going on.

    The Mississippi and Gulf region, like New Orleans, are only built to withstand a category three hurricane and with the advent of global warming stand by for more of the same. Another profound and telling statement penned by others in my profession "If you think safety is expensive, try an accident". The shoe fits in this case.

    Will we be as human beings ever learn? I doubt it. In the mean time Pray for our fellow humans and the horrors that they are going through and open your wallet.
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