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  • View author's info posted on Apr 28, 2007 20:24


    Astrology and the metaphysical is all hogwash and nonsense. So is chiropractic "medicine" along with acupuncture and herb treatments.These are just a few of the dumb,ignorant alternative treatments people go for.

    You must be the most Arrogant MD,or DO that I ever have heard. Either that, or a medical school washout, or were never accepted and that was your dream. What a poor pathetic person you are.

    Opening your mind to new things, is what makes life!

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  • View author's info posted on Mar 16, 2007 17:44


    Your attitudes are as outdated as your physical demenor infers. You can have any opionion you want but unless you truly immerse yourself into a learning experience your opionions are . . . limited. You should be quiet until you know 'of which you speak'. V
  • View author's info posted on Mar 04, 2007 12:41


    Excuse me, but most here have negated the idea that 70% want to know what is happening in their lives daily.or monthly. Keeping in track with their lives. Clarifying nuances. Sharpening the edge. I applaud you.
    It is a difficult course to navigate the obstacles of life, and plot a strategy that has substance.
    Everyone would like to know their strengths,and weaknesses. That makes them more viable in the marketplace!
  • View author's info posted on Feb 11, 2007 18:05


    Traditional Chinese Medicine has its origin in ancient Taoist philosophy which views a person as an energy system in which body and mind are unified, each influencing and balancing the other. Unlike allopathic medicine which attempts to isolate and separate disease from a person, Chinese Medicine emphasizes a holistic approach that treats the whole person. Many people have found Traditional Chinese methods of healing to be excellent tools for maintaining optimum health and preventing illness.

    Today in most western cultures acupuncture is considered a new alternative medicine. In reality acupuncture and its related moxibustion are practiced medical treatments that are over 5,000 years old.

    Very basically, acupuncture is the insertion of fine needles, sometimes in conjunction with electrical stimulus on the body's surface, in order to influence physiological functioning.

    Acupuncture can also be used in conjunction with heat produced by burning specific herbs, which is called Moxibustion. In addition, a non-invasive method of massage therapy, called acupressure, can also be effective.

    The first record of acupuncture is found in the 4,700 year old Huang Di Nei Jing (Yellow Emperor's Classic of Internal Medicine). This is known to be the oldest medical textbook in the world. It is said to have been written down from even earlier theories by Shen Nung, the father of Chinese Medicine. Shen Nung documented theories about circulation, pulse, and the heart over 4,000 years before European medicine had any concept about them.

    As the basis of acupuncture, Shen Nung discovered that the body has an energy force running throughout it. This energy force is known as Qi. The Qi consists of all essential life activities which include the spiritual, emotional, mental and physical aspects of life. A person's health is influenced by the flow of Qi in the body.

    I offer that you must seek knowledge before you make such broad statements.

    Respectfully submitted ..
  • View author's info posted on Jan 27, 2007 08:52


    Mr Robotic~By all means let me tell you that I am not a stupid person.I am a paralegal who holds a bachelors degree in Criminal Justice. I study the metaphysical because it dates back to the ancient times and if you do your homework you will understand that it also dates back to biblical days.So before you start telling everyone that they are ignorant you really need to clean your own doorstep first...No pun intended.
  • View author's info posted on Jan 26, 2007 19:50


    Maybe you need to get with the current times because there are more metaphysical activity than you realize. You know we have so much more updated things here in the year 2007 and we are so much more open about these kind of things. You should not be so judgemental of people and their choices in life.
  • View author's info posted on Dec 02, 2006 23:55


    I just made a preliminary chart on robotic using his age,sign,and Houston as his birthplace.This is not an accurate chart for the inner planets,but because the outer planets move slower, things can be viewed. His stark bluntness is because Sagittarius is his ascendant.He means no harm with his banter,and has been a serious,traditional person since birth. He likes sports and outdoor activities. His Jupiter opposite Saturn makes him a restless person that may tend to make him slow and methodical at tasks,and urged to quicken his pace,or mistake prone because he rushes too fast. Astrology allows you to rule the stars on your natal chart,not be ruled by them.
  • View author's info posted on Nov 12, 2006 14:18


    All religion, all superstition, all such beliefs in things which can't be proved by repeatability is stupid nonsense.

    Any scientist worthy of the name never invokes the supernatural into his science. If he did he would be laughed out of his profession, ignored, given the cold shoulder and lose any funding he might ever get.

    I simply do not understand how or why some otherwise seemingly intelligent people appear to believe such stuff.
  • View author's info posted on Jul 11, 2006 21:22


    I am a third generation psychic.I have lived with this ability all my life.It is about as difficult to understand as being gay or lesbian.Could you imagine always knowing how someone truly feels about you or feeling the emotions of everyone you meet.It feels like your crazy because you see,hear and feel things that you know you shouldn't.I would rather be crazy sometimes.I have not quite figured out if its a gift or a curse yet.
  • View author's info posted on Jun 12, 2006 07:21


    The title of this thread is 'Astrology is Hogwash', in the 'Astrology and Metaphysics' forum. So why are most/all of the posts about alternative medicine? Because in his first post Robotic2000 lumped alternative medicine together with metaphysics as concepts he abhors. .

    For those of us who actually want to discuss astrology -- how it "works" in the sense of having predictive value, I'm starting a new thread: Is Astrology Predictive?. And another, Scientific Basis of Astrology, to discuss studies done to correlate astrology with behaviour and/or events (e.g. Carl Jung's work). .

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  • View author's info posted on Apr 25, 2006 15:42


    Sun sign magazine astrology is hogwash. Having your chart done by a competent professional, based on your time and place of birth,using all of the planets, is not.

    Of course many people expect Astrology to tell them the future. Rather it describes conditions,and it is still up to you what you do with them. The individual manifestation of those conditions depends on your spiritual development and (if you believe in such things) any "contracts" you may have made, as well as prevailing conditions in your part of the world.

    I practice astrology part-time, and while I can tell you HOW you will get along with another person, and what life areas and issues will be emphasized in a relationship, I can't tell you IF that relationship is going to happen. Ethical astrologers will gladly make that distinction. We are NOT fortune tellers. I think of what I do as more assessment of potentials and empowerment than anything else - and hogwash or not, I have helped more people more quickly using astrology than I ever did in my 10+ years as a tradtional counselor. My own astrologer has given me excellent information.

    Re: Alternative medicine - errors in medication nearly killed both my grandmother and my father at different times. (Good Grief, have you NEVER seen "House"???!!!) If I had relied on tradtional medicine after I was hit by a car in 2001, I'd be a pill-popping junkie right now.

    Traditional medicine believes that it can kill what ails you by putting poisen in the body, there is nothing healing about it. Instead, it suppresses the body's own attempts to heal itself, therby making matters worse in the long run. Alot like having to rebuild the engine because you refuse ot change the oil.

    I have tried many things and have had excellent results with massage therapy, cranio-sacral therapy (the ONLY thing that helped brain damage from my accident) accupuncture(I had more movement in my neck after one treatment than I had had in 20 years, and no, it wasn't in my head because I didn't go there looking to fix my neck)and some interesting experiences with energy medicine, ala Donna Eden. (I met her)

    I had numerous surgeries as a child and I am convinced that tradtional medcine is toxic and deadly. My beliefs are based on both study and experience -
  • View author's info posted on Apr 20, 2006 06:09


    All I know is this folks....4 years ago I learned that I had inoperable (non cancerous) tumors on the main artery to your brain and heart. People my age usually die with such a late diagnosis. Modern medicine tried but failed. I was against taking herbs and such because I really believed 'my Doctors' at the Mayo Clinic could save me. Well...I started taking Cat Claw (basically tree bark) and now I'm fine. I don't understand how anyone can judge something they either know nothing about or haven't experienced. Being judge mental with no basis is asinine.
  • View author's info posted on Mar 16, 2006 23:38


    OK scroogey-pants, I'm still lookin for the post where you tell us you're not really Santa Claus.
  • View author's info posted on Nov 15, 2005 10:17


    robotic123_74 write:
    Astrology and the metaphysical is all hogwash and nonsense. So is chiropractic "medicine" along with acupuncture and herb treatments.These are just a few of the dumb,ignorant alternative treatments people go for.

    I guess if you are desparate and you have tried everything else it doesn't hurt to try them. They don't hurt you as far as I know, the difficulty is they don't do any good and you may need some medical attention from a good practicing medical doctor who can properly diagnose you and if you don't get that attention your condition may get worse and probably will.

    Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra as well as a p*enis pump work for some men but finely ground up rhinoceras horn doesn't do any good as far as I know, it doesn't make you horney, though I personally haven't tried it.



    Maybe you should try it... When was the last time you saw a really sick hog???

    I do agree somewhat on the astrology/metaphysical though... Seems to me to be a complex form for self hypnosis full of self fulfilling prophecies.

    But on the acupuncture/herbalism, I think perhaps humans have forgotten most of what was learned when we were close to the earth... The Asian cultures retain more than most.
  • View author's info posted on Sep 21, 2005 16:44



    bluepony write:
    well well... curious subject here...

    as i'v always seen it, if u take the leap of faith to believe that 1 + 1 = 2... then, by extension, u must believe in astrology... both mathematics and philosophy satisfy the human urge to understand and to control feelings of anxiousness when it comes to the true state of existence... unaldultered CHAOS...

    whether u believe in mathematics or philosphy to determine, like our ancestors, when flood and drought, heat and cold were due, so that migrations might take place, and crops might be planted... it would be imperative to know that these activities could be regulated with reference to the stars... the fact that we still do this today has been obscured by our use of watches and calendars to tell the time and the date, but all human life is basically regulated by the movement of the Sun and the Moon, and the rotation of the Earth... the recognition of this was a central part of the process of the development of early civilisation...

    which brings me to my point: no matter what way seems to work best for u to determine the security of your survival, whether it be mathematical formulas, or responding to questions and a language which astrology offers u to potentially understand yourself and the world around u... the answers r to be found in the process, or in the questions, if u will... not in the established "truths"... if this were the case, we wouldn't be here blabbing to each other through a bloody computer screen.... ;)



    oooohh!! Very interesting! Well put Bluepony!
  • View author's info posted on Sep 20, 2005 17:05


    LOL... like your style mr. seawolf... the fact that western science and medicine is ruled by a "process of elimination" of symptoms to determine "the cause", just goes to show that there is not only a disdain for practices in history which could, through the tried and true, be useful for healing... but also some belief in the fallacy that, in "modern times", we have more valuable information based on statistics and/or empirical evidence, is the point that is the "hogwash".... yes, outdated thinking...
    we underestimate the invasiveness of surgeries, and medications... quick-fixes and solutions for a society that has blind faith in "modernity".... what the hell is all the fuss about with astrology???
  • View author's info posted on Sep 12, 2005 20:45


    Astrology and chiropractic are NOT wacko stuff! I have been to the man they call the best in the midwest for several years! And when I first started to go to him for adjustments, he would do such a great job, that I could actually get up and start walking around WITHOUT MY LOWER LUMBAR area of my back being out of place any longer! He has a great reputation and services patients from around the country! He can adjust an area in the upper back of the spinal column that deals with the so-called ESTABLISHMENT ("DISEASE") CALLED: ACID REFLUX...(what a freakin' joke that is!!!)...and once that is corrected, the person doesn't have that happen again...unless that particular vertebra comes out again! And those surgery doctors who love to give people back surgeries for something called a RUPTURED DISK...!!! That is disgusting! A good chiro (that uses the Gonstead Method--a quick adjustment to set the disk) can set that disk back into place and he/she can do this WITHOUT SURGERY! And that so-called ruptured disk is nothing more than a disk that has: SLIPPED OUT OF PLACE! But the medical establishment loves to make people think it's something that only surgery can cure! So unless you've gone to one of the BEST...don't sit on your: backwoods, 18th century, narrow-minded, hard-@#$, with a slobbering, redeck attitude about something you obviously know nothing about! You are the typical SHEEP OF SOCIETY! in that you enjoy being trained by the establishment gods, who own and control damn near everything that we come into contact with! And as for astrology, one must check with a very renown type of person that does go into all aspects of ones makeup. If this involes the personal info, then, it can help to a certain degree...but the free will does come into play with this subject! It is not as cut and dried as with chiro adjustments! I've had them for years! They are very helpful and do an excellent job of helping a portion of the body to begin to function again! Without the good ones, people would be stuck being put into traction by some money grabbing doctor, that only cares about his bank account! No one can discuss this subject with me and make a stupid statement that you made...as I've been to at least 3 of the best that I've ever come across...and they have corrected various problems for me--WITHOUT SURGERY!!!! That's the secret to their success...these chiros I've been to CAN take care of business and keep a person safe from being put under the knife! You sound like a real flake, since it appears that you are NOT speaking with any knowledge about this subject! I, on the hand, am! Your typical thinking process went out with the advent of the age of Aquarius! You should go to a good chiro, that does the job right, then, see the difference! Get it? Got it? Good! Geez! Another establishment robot deprogrammed!!!!
  • View author's info posted on Sep 09, 2005 22:15


    well well... curious subject here...

    as i'v always seen it, if u take the leap of faith to believe that 1 + 1 = 2... then, by extension, u must believe in astrology... both mathematics and philosophy satisfy the human urge to understand and to control feelings of anxiousness when it comes to the true state of existence... unaldultered CHAOS...

    whether u believe in mathematics or philosphy to determine, like our ancestors, when flood and drought, heat and cold were due, so that migrations might take place, and crops might be planted... it would be imperative to know that these activities could be regulated with reference to the stars... the fact that we still do this today has been obscured by our use of watches and calendars to tell the time and the date, but all human life is basically regulated by the movement of the Sun and the Moon, and the rotation of the Earth... the recognition of this was a central part of the process of the development of early civilisation...

    which brings me to my point: no matter what way seems to work best for u to determine the security of your survival, whether it be mathematical formulas, or responding to questions and a language which astrology offers u to potentially understand yourself and the world around u... the answers r to be found in the process, or in the questions, if u will... not in the established "truths"... if this were the case, we wouldn't be here blabbing to each other through a bloody computer screen.... ;)
  • View author's info posted on Sep 06, 2005 09:41


    I think it was the Julian calendar that got the years back on track because Easter was falling on the wrong days, the Sun was crossing the equater earlier or later or something and so are the "houses" of astrology. I think they are shifted completely out of position from which it all beagn, so how can they be correct? It is all nonsense.
  • View author's info posted on Sep 05, 2005 20:27



    ginga write:
    Hey BObcatmoon,
    speaking of astrology, what zodiac sign are you? I am a curious Sagitarrius with a deep appreciation for astrology.


    I'm probably way off, but my first guess (for Bobcat) is Libra, followed by Aquarius. Or mayhaps Sagittarius? So sayeth another Sagittarian who occasionally dabbles....
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