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Posted on Fri, Jul 29, 2005 07:54

Are you 'polyamorous'?

  


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Posted on Mon, Aug 08, 2005 23:07

Well, Cub, if you can talk her into getting us three more wives, maybe. You have been hogging too much of her time, and you know how much attention a old country boy needs. lol.



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Posted on Mon, Aug 08, 2005 14:43

OH cr*ap, I forgot about Cub. I withdraw my offer. She is probably too sweet for me anyway, and would make me give up my junk food.

lol



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Posted on Mon, Aug 08, 2005 09:59


Minerva415 write:

sharp1 write:

wwwww123 write:
Maayan "
So do I Minny. If only he sticks to one woman. Sigh ... What a girl to do? Sit back or as the saying goes; If you can't beat them join them."

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Darn Maayan, I was sure you were going to pick out a couple more wives when we get married.

Now, I am really disappointed.
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Well, maybe just relieved. I was kinda afraid I would have 4 bossy women to put up with.

lol



Maayan...did you read that? 5w's just proposed to you! OMG! Congratulations may be in order! OMG! 5w's have you a date in mind? lol



Cool!! Our first polyandry example on the forum!! Maayan with two husbands:
Cubby and wwww!!
When's the party??

Whhhhoooo another reason for a party!!! Weddings :)



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Posted on Mon, Aug 08, 2005 05:04


sharp1 write:

wwwww123 write:
Maayan "
So do I Minny. If only he sticks to one woman. Sigh ... What a girl to do? Sit back or as the saying goes; If you can't beat them join them."

**********

Darn Maayan, I was sure you were going to pick out a couple more wives when we get married.

Now, I am really disappointed.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Well, maybe just relieved. I was kinda afraid I would have 4 bossy women to put up with.

lol



Maayan...did you read that? 5w's just proposed to you! OMG! Congratulations may be in order! OMG! 5w's have you a date in mind? lol



Cool!! Our first polyandry example on the forum!! Maayan with two husbands:
Cubby and wwww!!
When's the party??

  


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Posted on Sun, Aug 07, 2005 18:22


wwwww123 write:
Maayan "
So do I Minny. If only he sticks to one woman. Sigh ... What a girl to do? Sit back or as the saying goes; If you can't beat them join them."

**********

Darn Maayan, I was sure you were going to pick out a couple more wives when we get married.

Now, I am really disappointed.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Well, maybe just relieved. I was kinda afraid I would have 4 bossy women to put up with.

lol



Maayan...did you read that? 5w's just proposed to you! OMG! Congratulations may be in order! OMG! 5w's have you a date in mind? lol



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Posted on Sun, Aug 07, 2005 15:10

Maayan "
So do I Minny. If only he sticks to one woman. Sigh ... What a girl to do? Sit back or as the saying goes; If you can't beat them join them."

**********

Darn Maayan, I was sure you were going to pick out a couple more wives when we get married.

Now, I am really disappointed.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Well, maybe just relieved. I was kinda afraid I would have 4 bossy women to put up with.

lol



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Posted on Sun, Aug 07, 2005 11:47


maayan write:

Minerva415 write:
I saw nothing offensive in your post so no need to worry. I suppose one of the religions you were referring to was Islam.
"Marry women of your choice. Two, three, or four. However, if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly [with them], then only one or [a captive] that your right hand possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice. (Koran, 4:3)"

"Over the centuries, the phenomenon of polygamy has captured the attention of Westerners - ....


Minny, there was a big news report on today national paper, Sunday August 7th, 2005 (Malaysia); from a nationwide study conducted among Muslim men, less than 5% practice poligamy or have more than one wife. The rest declared that one wife is the way to live a harmonious marriage life. I thought that was remarkable!!!



Yes - it's true that it's a minority who put that into practice but I hadn't realised how few do it!
I don't think the King of Swaziland is part of those 5% though - LOL! He came to visit the institution where I work about 5 years ago with an entourage of about 20 people, including his 4 favorite wives (the rest stayed at home - I think he's now on number ..13??), several children, ministers, bodyguards, ladies-in-waiting etc etc... and they were all wearing national costumes... it was a sight to behold! We've never had such a colourful, flamboyant visiting delegation since then!



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Posted on Sun, Aug 07, 2005 05:58

Minerva,
Speaking of polygamy, an anecdote... I witnessed in a muslim country..A polygamist, 8 wifes, (4 legal, 4 the factory/or/the cleaining ladies),23 kids; he had a factory so he was quite rich; circumstances were that I was litteraly throuwn (during ramdan) with his wifes for a couple of days: they were living almonst on the floor with their kids, eating the rests of men supper; we went into 1 room, all of them and some of his young university daughters came around me for a meeting ( I was a teen) and were laughing and gigling, as I was preaching a bit of feminism notions (some were translating to the others who spoke only arabic); then 1 of them, got up very serious all of a sudden, ( it was around 2 am- some young kids were not sleeping and running and playing around)...went in the bathroom (doors open)...she made herself so beautiful like a Godess...in a red kaftan...a big gold belt...the eyes black with khol...oriental perfume...etc...then she went in his room and closed the door...Still, everybody was laughing and the kids around...it was like in a kindergarten...the other wifes were looking like cleaning ladies...tired and not too well dressed...
He came in...got in his bedroom....That Godess came out after 5 minutes...straight to the bathroom and put her little superbly well smelling little A*s on the "bidet"...while she was washing it...while, yes, while the kids were around...like if nothing happened....I was in a shock...asked to be freed from there for a few minutes...got downstairs in another bathroom to compose myself...( I was crying and v*omi*ing)...
Years after, 1 of his young wifes, was different: did not want kids, and 1 day she ran away...He found her...brought her back...
He had to provide for every wife equal gifts...and, each wife had her night to spend with him...After a few years of this "regime"...I heard he died of a heart attack....
I think that, so young, I had a big chance to know his wifes...and to know their little secrets...of seduction, hard work and bearing children...I also did confront him all the time I had the occasion about this...He always laughed at me as I was a little entertainment for him...a teen who was picking on him...So..I thought that I was rude...but when he died...I could not believe that my intuition was right...
Since then, when I see some married men...or any type of relationships like that...that some finish tragically...well...I think at this story...exotic...isn't it?

  


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Posted on Sun, Aug 07, 2005 03:19

I saw nothing offensive in your post so no need to worry. I suppose one of the religions you were referring to was Islam.
"Marry women of your choice. Two, three, or four. However, if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly [with them], then only one or [a captive] that your right hand possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice. (Koran, 4:3)"

"Over the centuries, the phenomenon of polygamy has captured the attention of Westerners - diplomats, travelers, writers and artists - who found themselves in the East. The enigmatic and enticing harems of Arabian Nights, the beautiful concubines and the wily eunuchs of The Thief of Baghdad gave polygamy an exotic eastern flavor for those who saw "the Orient" as nothing more than an exciting and distant fairy tale.

Today, there are no longer harems or eunuchs, but polygamy is still very much alive. It exists in a vast majority of Islamic countries, where it is permitted by law. And in the 20th century, it reached European and American shores with the massive wave of immigration from Islamic countries."

I am not trying to start another polemic here... just an interesting article I found on the internet - there's more to it but it was too long so I cropped it.

And BTW, for those who might be wondering, I'm Greek-Orthodox.

  


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Posted on Sat, Aug 06, 2005 16:28

I got lucky. No one bothered to jump down my throat about how stupid religion is when I used a religious reference to the polyamory.

(...Looks both ways and whispers...)


But you put it in the limelight again dear. Thanks.

(J/K...LOL...)



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Posted on Sat, Aug 06, 2005 08:37


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I know that Polyamory has been around since before man started keeping records.

(I shudder as I say this next part for fear of the trashing that happened in a different forum on this site but the info is pertinent.)
I also know that many cultures and religions allow for it. Even biblical principle allows for it(yes, even in the new testament),although it is clearly expressed that the preferred plan was just one spouse. If you wanted to be a church leader then being "the husband of but one wife" was mandatory(I can feel the heat of the flamers already).

Even though so much of our world's cultural history has seen and allowed for the practice, I must say I dont find it appealing at all.

I like to think I have a decent memory, but the idea of trying to keep the knowledge straight about two different and unique women is beyond daunting.
Two birthdays, two favorite colors, two favorite desserts....do you see my point?

Can you imagine how girl#1 would feel if you bought her something that only girl#2 would like?

Perhaps the shoe on the other foot.

What if you are guy#1 and while being intimate with the lady, she does something that guy#2 is wild about, and then goes "Oops, that is what Johnny likes, sorry". How will that effect the whole issue of size matters?

(About to give the flamers one more chance here..hehe)I personally think the whole polyamory thing is like Communism. It sounds fine, looks good on paper, but when you put it into practice somebody is gonna get hurt.


Okay all joking aside:

Like all humans I have a need to feel unique. Part of satisfying that is knowing my mate could love only me, as there is no other like me. I dont believe it is accurate to say "I love all my partners the same". I just dont believe it.



your post was funny - lol.
who are the "flamers" by the way??

  


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Posted on Sat, Aug 06, 2005 08:33

Polygyny is one man married to several women.
Polyandry is one woman married to several men.
Polygamy refers to either arrangement.
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But I'm an old-fashioned gal - I prefer to stick to one man.

  


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Posted on Sat, Aug 06, 2005 08:32

sharp1 write:
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What's it called when a women has more than one husband?


Sharp: it's called:
Lucky

  


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Posted on Sat, Aug 06, 2005 08:30

Sharp..I think its called...Testosterone fueled Homicide


I worked on big ships when I was younger and some of the older guys literally had "a girl in every port", Mostly 3rd world countries and they would drop off money for the kids and sail off to the next one. Of course, With their job obligations for many of them this was as close as they got to a Marriage.

Keep a minimum of a 1000 miles between wives was the key. LOL

Manslut is such an ugly word..I prefer Poly-amorous



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Posted on Sat, Aug 06, 2005 07:45

Hi all thoughtfull people here...I learned a word today...but, the definition, sounds to me a bit common...It makes me think (I'll give a radical example) is that, on one side, we say we are an individualistic society, in the sens mostly alone..on the other side, we accumulate realtionships...The fact that is not a swingers stuff...(really, we know that when drives are so overstimulated, they can have no limits)..but only a talking matter...(well, what about the talking cure?)....sometimes, as the swingers with no emotional bounds...the talking relationships...can eliminate sex too...Are these hurt people or commitment phobic?...I don't know them...And I don't believe that swingers is also the right thing either..So, here we are, with another thing to identify...but only to separate parts of us again (swingers separate from emotions (actually the kinky practice does the same; multitallking partners separate from sex)...It seems to me we just go from an extreme to another...
Makes me think also of teenagers who are constantly hyper about talking to somebody, doing things, being with somebody, as they can not be alone, or one on one with another person (not multiple ones)....Being with one person allows to get deeper in a relationship...
Consequently...like addiction, it can be another hyper stimulus...and desensitize on other levels...if exagerated...hm!...I hope my english is not too bad here...

  


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Posted on Mon, Aug 01, 2005 19:49


sharp1 write:

wwwww123 write:
I think a harem would be much better. I am too insecure for all of that competition.

lol


What's it called when a women has more than one husband? I doubt it has ever been done, I mean in comparison to a Harem. What a concept! lol



Sharp, check out the polynesian queens before the evil white man bible thumpers came. I think some had many husbands. Unfortunately the queens might weight 400 pounds, which was suppose to be high status, but poor guys, duty calls. lol

Do a search on matriarchial, and no, we are not going to ever do something like that here. lol



lol



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Posted on Mon, Aug 01, 2005 13:11

Actually Sharp, thoughout history there has been a number of matrilineal societies where the women were allowed to have as many as 20 "visiting husbands" that would come spend the night and then leave the next morning. The brother of a woman was more of a father figure to the children then the actual biological father.

Just posted it so you would know. I neither condone nor condemn. Speaking strictly of myself I would not like that arrangement. Once every 20 days just is not nearly adequate...talking about my emotional needs of course...hehe.



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Posted on Mon, Aug 01, 2005 12:14


wwwww123 write:
I think a harem would be much better. I am too insecure for all of that competition.

lol


What's it called when a women has more than one husband? I doubt it has ever been done, I mean in comparison to a Harem. What a concept! lol



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Posted on Mon, Aug 01, 2005 09:21

I know that Polyamory has been around since before man started keeping records.

(I shudder as I say this next part for fear of the trashing that happened in a different forum on this site but the info is pertinent.)
I also know that many cultures and religions allow for it. Even biblical principle allows for it(yes, even in the new testament),although it is clearly expressed that the preferred plan was just one spouse. If you wanted to be a church leader then being "the husband of but one wife" was mandatory(I can feel the heat of the flamers already).

Even though so much of our world's cultural history has seen and allowed for the practice, I must say I dont find it appealing at all.

I like to think I have a decent memory, but the idea of trying to keep the knowledge straight about two different and unique women is beyond daunting.
Two birthdays, two favorite colors, two favorite desserts....do you see my point?

Can you imagine how girl#1 would feel if you bought her something that only girl#2 would like?

Perhaps the shoe on the other foot.

What if you are guy#1 and while being intimate with the lady, she does something that guy#2 is wild about, and then goes "Oops, that is what Johnny likes, sorry". How will that effect the whole issue of size matters?

(About to give the flamers one more chance here..hehe)I personally think the whole polyamory thing is like Communism. It sounds fine, looks good on paper, but when you put it into practice somebody is gonna get hurt.


Okay all joking aside:

Like all humans I have a need to feel unique. Part of satisfying that is knowing my mate could love only me, as there is no other like me. I dont believe it is accurate to say "I love all my partners the same". I just dont believe it.



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