I thought I would start this thread so we can talk about the news as it happens around the world.
In fact I just heard some terrible news - it is lunchtime in Central Europe.
Terrorist attack in London this morning - 7 bombs went off - in the subways and on at least one double-decker bus! More than 180 people injured and possibly about 50 dead so far.
I felt like crying when I saw this on television.
Bonnie and her kids live in London. I want to call her to make sure she's OK and I can't find her number!
Does someone have it??
the scariest part is it can happen again those weather men said bob breck nash roberts and news center 6 because of global warming produceing killer hurricanes rightwood knows my father's people with the mafia brb
if you thought new orleans was gone the bayou towns where i am from was a mess man the bayou towns are just trying to get things going i am famous we are famous where i am from cause of my dad and a very powerfull rich multi millionaire offshore sueing giant lawyer that judges are scared of half the town is named after his family and the hanging judge we call down here in terrebonne and lafourche parish see we have parish's not counties, we got hit 2 time back to back rita and katrina the leves broke round where i am at rita brought so much water cause she was comming west, weather men from new orleans 4 ,6 and bob breck ch 8 were predicting it to happend for long time but tbey said it could be worser if a certain path is comming a lil more west katrina new orleans would have been in badder shape they scaid, it is hurricane season just started this week, katrina rita was noithing what global warming has in store for us where i am from we get hit very bad cause we are west water and wind where is one them country music stars keeny chesney george strait allan jackson jeff bates underwod billy ray cyrus chestnutt others hehehe the blues oldies what ever i can play seen what aaron neville did for his city when it came great...
Wake up, Europe, you've a war on your hands
BY MARK STEYN
Ever since 9/11, I've been gloomily predicting the European powder keg's
about to go up. ''By 2010 we'll be watching burning buildings, street
riots and assassinations on the news every night,'' I wrote in Canada's
Western Standard back in February.
Silly me. The Eurabian civil war appears to have started some years
ahead of my optimistic schedule. As Thursday's edition of the Guardian
reported in London: ''French youths fired at police and burned over 300
cars last night as towns around Paris experienced their worst night of
violence in a week of urban unrest.''
''French youths,'' huh? You mean Pierre and Jacques and Marcel and
Alphonse? Granted that most of the "youths" are technically citizens of
the French Republic, it doesn't take much time in les banlieus of Paris
to discover that the rioters do not think of their primary identity as
''French'': They're young men from North Africa growing ever more
estranged from the broader community with each passing year and wedded
ever more intensely to an assertive Muslim identity more implacable than
anything you're likely to find in the Middle East. After four somnolent
years, it turns out finally that there really is an explosive ''Arab
street,'' but it's in Clichy-sous-Bois.
The notion that Texas neocon arrogance was responsible for frosting up
trans-Atlantic relations was always preposterous, even for someone as
complacent and blinkered as John Kerry. If you had millions of seething
unassimilated Muslim youths in lawless suburbs ringing every major city,
would you be so eager to send your troops into an Arab country fighting
alongside the Americans? For half a decade, French Arabs have been
carrying on a low-level intifada against synagogues, kosher butchers,
Jewish schools, etc. The concern of the political class has been to
prevent the spread of these attacks to targets of more, ah, general
interest. They seem to have lost that battle. Unlike America's
Europhiles, France's Arab street correctly identified Chirac's
opposition to the Iraq war for what it was: a sign of weakness.
The French have been here before, of course. Seven-thirty-two. Not 7:32
Paris time, which is when the nightly Citroen-torching begins, but 732
A.D. -- as in one and a third millennia ago. By then, the Muslims had
advanced a thousand miles north of Gibraltar to control Spain and
southern France up to the banks of the Loire. In October 732, the
Moorish general Abd al-Rahman and his Muslim army were not exactly at
the gates of Paris, but they were within 200 miles, just south of the
great Frankish shrine of St. Martin of Tours. Somewhere on the road
between Poitiers and Tours, they met a Frankish force and, unlike other
Christian armies in Europe, this one held its ground ''like a wall . . .
a firm glacial mass,'' as the Chronicle of Isidore puts it. A week
later, Abd al-Rahman was dead, the Muslims were heading south, and the
French general, Charles, had earned himself the surname ''Martel'' -- or
Poitiers was the high-water point of the Muslim tide in western Europe.
It was an opportunistic raid by the Moors, but if they'd won, they'd
have found it hard to resist pushing on to Paris, to the Rhine and
beyond. ''Perhaps,'' wrote Edward Gibbon in The Decline And Fall Of The
Roman Empire, ''the interpretation of the Koran would now be taught in
the schools of Oxford, and her pulpits might demonstrate to a
circumcised people the sanctity and truth of the revelation of
Mahomet.'' There would be no Christian Europe. The Anglo-Celts who
settled North America would have been Muslim. Poitiers, said Gibbon, was
''an encounter which would change the history of the whole world.''
Battles are very straightforward: Side A wins, Side B loses. But the
French government is way beyond anything so clarifying. Today, a
fearless Muslim advance has penetrated far deeper into Europe than Abd
al-Rahman. They're in Brussels, where Belgian police officers are
advised not to be seen drinking coffee in public during Ramadan, and in
Malmo, where Swedish ambulance drivers will not go without police
escort. It's way too late to rerun the Battle of Poitiers. In the no-go
suburbs, even before these current riots, 9,000 police cars had been
stoned by ''French youths'' since the beginning of the year; some three
dozen cars are set alight even on a quiet night. ''There's a civil war
under way in Clichy-sous-Bois at the moment,'' said Michel Thooris of
the gendarmes' trade union Action Police CFTC. ''We can no longer
withstand this situation on our own. My colleagues neither have the
equipment nor the practical or theoretical training for street fighting.''
What to do? In Paris, while ''youths'' fired on the gendarmerie, burned
down a gym and disrupted commuter trains, the French Cabinet split in
two, as the ''minister for social cohesion'' (a Cabinet position I hope
America never requires) and other colleagues distance themselves from
the interior minister, the tough-talking Nicolas Sarkozy who dismissed
the rioters as ''scum.'' President Chirac seems to have come down on the
side of those who feel the scum's grievances need to be addressed. He
called for ''a spirit of dialogue and respect.'' As is the way with the
political class, they seem to see the riots as an excellent opportunity
to scuttle Sarkozy's presidential ambitions rather than as a call to
save the Republic.
A few years back I was criticized for a throwaway observation to the
effect that ''I find it easier to be optimistic about the futures of
Iraq and Pakistan than, say, Holland or Denmark." But this is why. In
defiance of traditional immigration patterns, these young men are less
assimilated than their grandparents. French cynics like the prime
minister, Dominique de Villepin, have spent the last two years scoffing
at the Bush Doctrine: Why, everyone knows Islam and democracy are
incompatible. If so, that's less a problem for Iraq or Afghanistan than
for France and Belgium.
If Chirac isn't exactly Charles Martel, the rioters aren't doing a bad
impression of the Muslim armies of 13 centuries ago: They're seizing
their opportunities, testing their foe, probing his weak spots. If
burning the 'burbs gets you more ''respect'' from Chirac, they'll burn
'em again, and again. In the current issue of City Journal, Theodore
Dalrymple concludes a piece on British suicide bombers with this grim
summation of the new Europe: ''The sweet dream of universal cultural
compatibility has been replaced by the nightmare of permanent
conflict.'' Which sounds an awful lot like a new Dark Ages.
Get out if you want Sharia law, Australia tells Muslims
CANBERRA: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament. ?If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you,? he said on national television. ?I?d be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that that is false. If you can?t agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country which practises it, perhaps, then, that?s a better option,? Costello said. Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should ?clear off?. ?Basically, people who don?t want to be Australians, and they don?t want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off,? he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spies monitoring the nation?s mosques. agencies
The true human tragedy of this disaster dates all the way back in history to a point about I would feel compelled to ask: why was a beautiful city such as New Orleans built in such an unsatisfactory place to begin with? A monument to the ignorance and stupidity of man.
Indeed, as I stated, it is a fair city. It was also built mostly below sea-level in a time when America was the "New World" and the concepts of creating new towns and cities were or should have been well learned from our renowned forefathers.
Look upon the scope of the human tragedy. A tragedy fraught with loss of life, property, and a unique culture as well as the scale of human hardship, the burden that caring for the survivors and rebuilding what was will place upon the rest of this nation and perhaps the rest of world should they decide to be generous enough. This points to the inalterable fact that the long-dead imbeciles who decided to build such a city in such a place along with others who have been entranced by the beauty of natural surroundings while ignoring the power of nature itself are the ones to blame. You have them to thank for this and many other natural disasters throughout recorded history. No greater fool walks the face of the planet than the fool called "Man".
it only takes 5 minutes to make a donation online..make sure you type in that you want the donation to go to Hurricane relief ..
its easy..ya dont even have to leave the house..do it today friends,,give to our neighbors...we never know if we will need it next,By the way thats w w w
americanredcross.org MM wouldnt let me put that up...can you believe it?
I cannot answer the question with accuracy. The New Orleans area dosn't have any open businesses, no gas, no businesses in downtown area are are functioning but apparantly a few in surrounding areas, but they run out of supplies fast. They are trying to get everyone out of downtown so shipping stuff to downtown is probably NOT the place to ship anything.
The refugees have flooded into Houston, Northern Lousiana, Arkansas, and all towns in between. If they were lucky they filled up a car with clothes, etc.
The really unlucky ones had no transportation and are riding buses out of town with the clothes on their backs. These folks need all of the basic needs but there are a lot of donations coming in for those that are housed in the big refugee centers. Its the smaller centers in small towns that will be hurting the most I think.
If you live a long way away the shipping cost of sending anything would be too high to bother. Money would be better in that case. If you live near one of the shelters in the surrounding states, take stuff to those shelters or join in on a larger shipment that is being organized.
A local red cross office would probably be the best contact for local donations.
As an example of needs in other areas that are greatly impacted by Katrina:
I have a friend in Arkansas that I just talked too that is in charge of 500 nurse aids and nurses that help the elderly in normal times. The doubling of gas prices is causing the aids to quit. Some drive 120 miles per day helping the elderly with food, cleaning their house, giving medicine, baths, etc. etc. They only make 6.25 per hour anyway, so it is not like they are quiting a high paying job, and certainly that is not enough money to pay for high gas prices. This agency alone needs $150,000 right now to make up for the extra fuel cost for their nurse aids, and that is not counting the extra cost for several hundred Katrina refugees that they are trying to help also. I can give a phone number for the agency head if anyone is interested in donating. I am sure this situtation is repeated many times in all of the southern states.
Last night I heard President Bush say on the news that "New Orleans is gone."
My daughter asked me to explain his words. Did it mean forever? Trying to imagine the rebuilding process of the levees, I figured it would be months before a new levee could be reconstructed to hold back the ocean waters, and then months for all the water to be pumped back out again.
I also read in the UK Guardian newspaper that a 3 foot shark was spotted swimming around one of the streets. It can't be safe wading through waste deep water.
I also read that although they have numerous boats, they also have pockets of water and it isn't easy to get the boats from one pocket of water to the next.
I realize that money is preferred, because shipping material items such as food, clothing etc. is difficult. But maybe 5w's you can answer this question...they still have to buy things to ship there, because they certainly can't buy anything in New Orleans or other devastated towns right? They need everything right now.
Looks like the hurricane in the FL and New Orleans area is becoming an annual event. I missed it by a day when I was in Atlanta flying to WEst coast last Sept. I hope all those who are victims have enough insurance to claim on. Here in UK, much of the Thames banks where there are private properties are no longer insurable and that also means unsaleable..
5W, your generous gesture is touching and you sure reflect the true American community spirit.
wwwww123 write: Katrina dropped to a Cat4 overnight -that will help a lot. It looks like the strongest winds are going to miss New Orleans by a few miles which will also help on damages.
WWWWW.unfortunately your assessment of New Orleans is not correct. When the Levees from Lake Pontchartrain break New Orleans will look like Downtown Venice. They are saying wind gusts of 104 mph and the eye is about 15 miles east or north of New Orleans. They are now reporting that the pumps have stopped working in New Orleans. Ut oh
wwwww123 write: What is really going to be sad is that if it hits a populated city, there are going to be hundreds of thousands of people who won't have jobs to go back too. It will take months, maybe years to reopen many businesses.
I know 5w and there will be people tomorrow complaining about being at work. I'm just thankful I have a job AND a building to go to when there are so many that will lose their jobs AND the building they work in because of this hurricane.
What is really going to be sad is that if it hits a populated city, there are going to be hundreds of thousands of people who won't have jobs to go back too. It will take months, maybe years to reopen many businesses.