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Posted on Sat, Dec 31, 2005 22:07

libitofafrica write:

You are absolutely right Juice, I think sectionalizing who created what leaves out the fact that these inventers are all members of the human race.

We've all benefited from their inventions as humans and that fact is most important.


Thanks, LibitoofAfrica ! ... although not all my thinking is considered PC,
I have found that modern understanding favors some happy thoughts about our possibilities. Ahhh, happy thoughts about the future are often thwarted by the fact that most folks don't have modern understanding....yet...though it is available to be assembled by each person in their own way...:)



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Posted on Sat, Dec 31, 2005 05:54

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This is so true. I belong to a private group where white women come to get with black men. The attraction obviously is very strong but they rather deal with it in secret.


Now that's just wrong!
And what man or woman worth his/her salt would go for something like that...
You all must be some really sexLESS folks...MM made me take out the other words I had here, but I'm sure you get it....

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Posted on Wed, Dec 28, 2005 18:58

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You're sitting here saying, that your people died like warriors true. But, name a couple things Indians did for this country, that people celebrate besides Thanksgiving. why don't you name some Indian Activists that wen't down in history and people take a day off of work to celebrate. Why don't you have a full History Month that in every class across America celebrates. Wait, you don't. So, you're trying to say Indians are better then Blacks? I beg to differ.


A simple book for less than 20 dollars!!!!
15,000 Years of Invention and Innovation
American Indians of North, Meso-, and South America were the first to cultivate seventy-five percent of the many varities of food grown in the world today. Many pharmaceuticals in current use were first discovered by Indian healers centuries before the Europeans came to the Americas.

Freeze-dried food, syringes, rootbeer, rubberized clothing, beef jerky, and many of the tenets of the United States Constitution are only a few of the independent inventions and original discoveries that American Indian people gave to the world.

"The Encyclopedia of American Indian Contributions to the World" is the first A to Z reference book that extensively details and documents the inventiveness of American Indians.

Correlation is not causation. I suggest as humans, 'AI' can claim the other inventions too, and so can 'blacks.' Colors don't invent.
Thinkers do. Yes, the book sounds interesting, and admirable...just no reason to be too resolutely apart.



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Posted on Tue, Dec 27, 2005 22:38

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You're sitting here saying, that your people died like warriors true. But, name a couple things Indians did for this country, that people celebrate besides Thanksgiving. why don't you name some Indian Activists that wen't down in history and people take a day off of work to celebrate. Why don't you have a full History Month that in every class across America celebrates. Wait, you don't. So, you're trying to say Indians are better then Blacks? I beg to differ.


A simple book for less than 20 dollars!!!!


15,000 Years of Invention and Innovation

American Indians of North, Meso-, and South America were the first to cultivate seventy-five percent of the many varities of food grown in the world today. Many pharmaceuticals in current use were first discovered by Indian healers centuries before the Europeans came to the Americas.

Freeze-dried food, syringes, rootbeer, rubberized clothing, beef jerky, and many of the tenets of the United States Constitution are only a few of the independent inventions and original discoveries that American Indian people gave to the world.

"The Encyclopedia of American Indian Contributions to the World" is the first A to Z reference book that extensively details and documents the inventiveness of American Indians.



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Posted on Tue, Dec 27, 2005 18:39

great respect for exploration of history....
imho, since slavery is still rampant in the world today, and existed throughout history, we might take a step back and see what lets someone think they should oppress others or let someone start down that road with themself.
When it is all taken together in the biggest picture, we can seek justice at the same time we see every person as a unique individual, not tied to the history of persons of similar color or something. Yes, the issues are inter-related, yet first we must respect each person. What is respect? I think it is love and understanding and even affirmation of their 'unusual' qualities...as a starting place.



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Posted on Sun, Dec 25, 2005 18:51

Hey libitofafrica

Thank u kindly for that history lesson, and I mean that sincerely. Alot us feel as though we can make ignorant comments and sound straight ignorant because we don't have the authentic factual data. Maybe people do not understand that because some of us were raised to think in such a manner, racism will never dissipate. It is the bethune behavior of the past that continues to haunt us and expel upon the new generation the screwed up crap. My grandpa is white, my granny is Cree/black, my father is Spainard, and my mom is black. I am Heinz 57 Sauce, but I consider myself as being black. Anywho, it gets onmy nerves when I hear people say such silly things, but I can't go around and duct tape or super glue their lips shut. i shake my head and go on because no matter how much correct data you placed before them, it is stuck in their birdbrians of the BS that their grandparents and parents taught them. U GO GIRL FOR EXPRESSING TO THEM SOME HISTORY.

BTW. I dated a guy from Horseshoe Bend ID, and when I went to visit I fell in love with that state. It was beautiful. I did get atad bit of tude from the natives. When I went to the mall in Boise, I saw 2 blk females and one of them I hugged just for the sake of embracing my people. LOl! How is the economy up there, I'd still consider relocating from Houston.



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Posted on Mon, Dec 19, 2005 07:13

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You must excuse me for not being politically correct. What burns me more than anything is how the black culture always pushes the issues of slavery. If they actually quit looking at themselves and beating their imaginary drums, they should realized that every race (white, chinese, mexican, indian, etc), males, females, childeren have been slaves at some point in history. Even today there is white slave trade going on, just watch the news. So the black culture cannot assume they have exclusive claim to this. They need to get off this over used and burned out soap box.



If the black culture wishes to be treated fairly and treated with respect, then they need to take a serious look at themselves. Everyone of us has the ability to improve their life and improve themselves. Instead of making themselves better, what do we see? Gettos, high crime. And what is the laim excuse? I'm poor, I'm uneducated, I'm this and I'm that. And anything else they can think of to point the blame to someone else. I for one will not accept this blame or be made part of it.


Do we ask why the Jews hang on to their experience of the Holocaust (keeping in mind that black slavery lasted for 100 years)? Do we ask those that survived 9/11 to get on with their lives and stop looking for excuses? Do we ask the Vietnam Vets to get on with life and forget what it was like to feel shell shocked and to see friends die before them.

Because you're not asking the Jews to forget Hitler, and you're not asking 9/11 survivors to let go of what happened, you think their experience is "valid," or is worthy of remembering. You should ask yourself what was there about black slavery that you don't feel needs validation? Is it because you feel we are less human, therefore less able to experience the inhumanity of slavery, segregation, and discremination? Sad. Extremely sad that you don't feel we should remember our enslavement. We remember the Holocaust so that it is hopefully never repeated in history. I remember slavery so that it is never repeated in history.

Yes, the problem with political correctness is that you may no longer call us those mean, hateful, evil names to our faces, but it doesn't mean you don't call us that in your minds or when we are not around.

I hate to tell you this, but your race isn't doing so well in this here America. Were you aware that your race has the highest rate of crimes (perhaps it is because you make up 73% of America), the highest rate of welfare, the highest rate of teenage pregnacy, the highest rate of broken marriages?

So perhaps you should spread your advice on to your race, because from where I am in ID I see all the "problems" that exists in your race 10 fold.

The difference between black enslavement compared to any other is the inhumain treatment of black slaves, oh along with little facts like seperation from culture, I'm sure as a slave it would have been like the after effects of the Vietnam war, if not worse. With all the psychotherapy today why hasn't there been a study about what it feels like to be stripped naked and pooked and prodded like an animal on a slave block, having your teeth examined, and you privates investigated like a studding bull or horse. Perhaps that study would help you understand a little more about why we're so "hung" (literally during the "slave days") up on slavery.

I don't believe anyone of any race expects anything except equal oppertunity and a little less "white priviledge?" I believe equality is not something one should ask for, one should demand it instead of hanging on to the thought of a better life in heaven.

I have to admit the white race keeps reminding us of our enslavement when we're referred to as boy, buck, good breeders, and a lot worse than I'm going to mention.

But hey, you don't control my destiny and I don't control yours, and that is as it should be.


Very well said.

  


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Posted on Fri, Dec 16, 2005 08:07

You must excuse me for not being politically correct. What burns me more than anything is how the black culture always pushes the issues of slavery. If they actually quit looking at themselves and beating their imaginary drums, they should realized that every race (white, chinese, mexican, indian, etc), males, females, childeren have been slaves at some point in history. Even today there is white slave trade going on, just watch the news. So the black culture cannot assume they have exclusive claim to this. They need to get off this over used and burned out soap box.



If the black culture wishes to be treated fairly and treated with respect, then they need to take a serious look at themselves. Everyone of us has the ability to improve their life and improve themselves. Instead of making themselves better, what do we see? Gettos, high crime. And what is the laim excuse? I'm poor, I'm uneducated, I'm this and I'm that. And anything else they can think of to point the blame to someone else. I for one will not accept this blame or be made part of it.



The real truth needs to come out. Its no different than what England, France, Spain had done in years prior. They exported their criminals and undesireable to USA, Australia, and who knows were else. Why isn't this made known? Oh yea, politically correctness.



Sorry for getting off the beaten path, Yes, I was married to Native American and she's highly respected Shamans. We had our cultural differences but we overcame them. By the way, she accepted to what happen in the past as the past and together we were able to move forward. For a time she was caught up in the past. It was an anchor around her neck. I helped her to free it and her spirit went flying ever since.



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Posted on Fri, Dec 16, 2005 04:45

Topatoya write:

What,, i'm suppose to care about what you think Mr pootpie,Oh pray FER ME.

When other race of people tell me of our own history and don't know what they are talking about like you,,sure I speak up. now you try not to get to mad with me you know redskins can't handle that kind of presure.Now calm down and tell it to ya mama tonight befor bed,,god bless.

Topatoya
Lumbee
Lost as the Tribes of Israel
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If It's Not Different,,It's Not Your's


Bravo Topatoya!

Yet another indisputedly brilliant and articulate post in defense of your convoluted, half baked, racist theories...lol.

Good luck to you. I can only imagine how pleased the Lumbee tribe must be to have the village idiot presenting himself as their unnofficial spokesperson.

PS:Some free advice: Go back to school. Learn how to spell, then learn how to write. Once you learn these things you should be able to read, and once you can read you'll be able to learn all kinds of things about history, the world and other people. It's never too late! ;)

  


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Posted on Thu, Dec 15, 2005 09:03

Maybe you should change your ID to OVER THE TOPatoya. Frankly, your revolutionary style vitriol doesn?t encourage thoughtful and intelligent exchange on this subject.

There?s no sense trying to revisit battles long lost. Your energy would be better spent adressing the 21st century challenges and obstacles facing your community rather than lamenting events which occurred primarily in the 18th & 19th centuries. You can?t change the past even if it was unjust. Nor is it constructive to try and demonize ?the white man?, to blame him for the transgressions of his forefathers, and to label all white people as ?invaders?.

Like it or not, the US (and Canada for that matter) is a country made up of immigrants, people of all shades and cultures from all over the world. Most arrived on her shores willingly, in search of a better life, while some were brought here forceably but eventually stayed of their own free will. Perhaps you?d like to deport everyone who isn?t 100% Native American? Exactly what is it you want?

This is not a competition to determine which people have suffered the greatest injustices, or who responded to oppression more honourably. Why do you feel the need to compare?



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Posted on Wed, Dec 14, 2005 08:50

Topatoya write:
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in my case it is american indian, looking white, we cannot win for loosing, people are people, i hate anyone who blames things on color, if you think about it, the one who brings it up is the one with the problem, men want, black, white, fat, skinny, whatever, woman to, only in america are we the problem, and slavery did not start with the africans, it started when columbus came, read your true american history and see who should recieve anything in this country first, it is the Indians, who are still being treated like dogs and NO ONE CARES...history..WE CAN ONLY CHANGE THE MISSTAKES...OURSELVES BY NOT RELIVING THEM..


The only reason why we African-Americans have Black History Month, Martin Luther King Jr day, is becuase in our history we did the most things to change Americas views on racism. We have tons of African-American activists, tons of Black Museums, and tons of African-American Inventors. Now if the Indians did the same exact thing we did back then, then they'd have their own everything as well. But, I think that we should have more museums of Indian Cultures, Asian-American Cultures, Hispanic/Latino Cultures as well. But, the problem is no one stands up and says anything but, African-Americans. I'm not saying, we're better, but we did do a lot to change this country.


I know this much, the US ARMY thought our ancesters were going to pick thier cotton and cook and clean thier homes and be slaves like the black man but our ancesters took rocks and sharpen them and attached them to sticks and made a Bow and arrows.When they came with thier whips and thier mighty armies our ancesters battled these invaders, for over 200 years we died by the hundreds of thousands and the (AMERICAN INDIANS)Never did pick thier cotton or clean thier homes,or work thier farms like the black man.We battled these invaders until they grew tired of fighting us.Today we still live with pride and respect for who we are because we were never thier SLAVES like the black man we were warriors,god bless.

Topatoya

thats gay! lol who cares really?


Your History,,Black people were picking cotton and working the farms,washing cloths,,washing dishes,cleaning house and locked up and chained at sundown and getting thier a$$es spanked by thier MASTER.. ..lol THATS (GAY)

History,,Red Men Burns from the inside out sweet chocolate,,One Redman killed over 200 invaders with only a stick with a sharpen stone on the end of it. They die fighting trying to keep our homeland (AMERICA) and from picking the INVADER'S cotton and cleaning thier houses the way the black people did.WE died by the hundrerds of thousands for the pride we have today. We were never thier SLAVES..REDMEN ORDER YOU ONE TODAY GIRL YOU'LL BE GLAD YOU DID, WE WILL DIE FOR OUR LOVEONES BECAUSE WE LIVE FOR OUR LOVEONES,,god bless.


You're sitting here saying, that your people died like warriors true. But, name a couple things Indians did for this country, that people celebrate besides Thanksgiving. why don't you name some Indian Activists that wen't down in history and people take a day off of work to celebrate. Why don't you have a full History Month that in every class across America celebrates. Wait, you don't. So, you're trying to say Indians are better then Blacks? I beg to differ.



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Posted on Wed, Dec 14, 2005 04:00

Topatoya,

With all due respect, I think you are comparing apples and oranges. When Caucasians arrived in North America, Native Americans had societies which had been established for hundreds, if not thousands, of years.

With a strong and solid foundation like this, as well as supreme knowledge of the terrain and fierce war capabilities which were honed through generations of tribal conflict, the Native people certainly had the capacity to defend their "home turf".

The African "slaves", on the other hand, were ripped from their homelands and taken to a new world where they had no societal or community foundation, and, subsequently, no cohesiveness, a fundamental requirement for meaningful resistence.

In any case, I don't think it's necessary to compare the experiences. Both societies have painful chapters in their histories. One is not better than the other and each faces many challenges in the 21st century.



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Posted on Mon, Dec 12, 2005 09:32

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Are you implying that just because, African- Americans were in slaved that we have nothing to be proud of? For your info African-Americans did fight back but, we didn't have to fight back with violence. Our words, our beliefs, and our actions inspired a nation, to change for the better. That says something don't you think? I'm proud to be African-American because, we countered racism for all minorities and our next generation so that they don't have to go through the same thing our ancestors went through. So, we should recieve things first at blondeindian, because without Rosa Parks, MLK Jr, Malcom X ect. This nation probably wouldn't of changed.



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Posted on Sat, Dec 10, 2005 18:23

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in my case it is american indian, looking white, we cannot win for loosing, people are people, i hate anyone who blames things on color, if you think about it, the one who brings it up is the one with the problem, men want, black, white, fat, skinny, whatever, woman to, only in america are we the problem, and slavery did not start with the africans, it started when columbus came, read your true american history and see who should recieve anything in this country first, it is the Indians, who are still being treated like dogs and NO ONE CARES...history..WE CAN ONLY CHANGE THE MISSTAKES...OURSELVES BY NOT RELIVING THEM..


The only reason why we African-Americans have Black History Month, Martin Luther King Jr day, is becuase in our history we did the most things to change Americas views on racism. We have tons of African-American activists, tons of Black Museums, and tons of African-American Inventors. Now if the Indians did the same exact thing we did back then, then they'd have their own everything as well. But, I think that we should have more museums of Indian Cultures, Asian-American Cultures, Hispanic/Latino Cultures as well. But, the problem is no one stands up and says anything but, African-Americans. I'm not saying, we're better, but we did do a lot to change this country.



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Posted on Fri, Oct 28, 2005 11:56

It nice to read everybody comments on this topic...As for me i was born in New york and i never saw color...
It nice to read everybody comments on this topic...As for me i was born in New york and i never saw color...



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Posted on Thu, Oct 13, 2005 19:07

in my case it is american indian, looking white, we cannot win for loosing, people are people, i hate anyone who blames things on color, if you think about it, the one who brings it up is the one with the problem, men want, black, white, fat, skinny, whatever, woman to, only in america are we the problem, and slavery did not start with the africans, it started when columbus came, read your true american history and see who should recieve anything in this country first, it is the Indians, who are still being treated like dogs and NO ONE CARES...history..WE CAN ONLY CHANGE THE MISSTAKES...OURSELVES BY NOT RELIVING THEM..



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Posted on Sun, Sep 18, 2005 20:22

This is so true. I belong to a private group where white women come to get with black men. The attraction obviously is very strong but they rather deal with it in secret.



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Posted on Sun, Aug 28, 2005 10:48

happiness has no color so its all in what you really want for self.search your heart because pain has no color aswell. i as a black wish i had the chance to love someone other than a black women. i feel i could be a never ending relationship cause there is so much to explore.

  


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Posted on Tue, Aug 09, 2005 12:46

SO ULTIMATELY WHAT ARE YOU SAYING??
DO YOU DATE ONLY IN YOUR RACE?

  


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Posted on Wed, Aug 03, 2005 09:51

I agree,it doesn"t matter the race or color, as long the love is genuine and what they have together is genuine not only how he treats her but how she treats him as well!but I had to learn that threw experience its not the color its the heart of the person!



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