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Posted on Mon, Jun 13, 2005 17:06

Orion,
Remember you can't delete your posts at mingles...You can post all the rude things you want about me over there...like you have started to all ready.
I wish you luck in whatever it is that is troubling you.



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Posted on Mon, Jun 13, 2005 15:15

Well incorrigible might be a better word, but I better check the definitions first. I have a couple of friends that are always calling me that name. I think they might be insulting me. lol Depraved might be a better word.



I will have to think up a good fight. A woman, plus lawyer, plus nurse, plus blond, just gives me too many options to choose from. I want to pick something simple so you will have a chance. Yes, your hair is dark now, but we all know better.

lol



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Posted on Mon, Jun 13, 2005 14:38

fun4two, you can fight with me. I am the most corrupt guy on here. Those other guys are just whimps.

lol



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Posted on Mon, Jun 13, 2005 11:11

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Posted on Mon, Jun 13, 2005 10:38

Orion,

I read your post above and your other thread C'est la Vie. In deference to your request I did not respond there but will here.

I appreciated your apology and your explanations struck me as truthful and heartfelt. You introspection struck me as very sincere - for the first time.

I too was guilty of perpetuating our fight too long and did my share of baiting. Like you, I don't conduct myself like that in the real world. It's easy to overindulge with "enemies" in cyberspace who, in the end, are never completely real or authentic. I don't display my full personna on this forum and I presume you don't either. It's just a knockoff of who we are.

Truth be told, despite our otherwise civilized lives, I sense we both perpetuated this fight to some extent because we both found it to be fun. And it was for some.

I honestly didn't lie to you concerning the IM debacle and I'm glad you're now prepared to give me the benefit of the doubt. I want you to know that I did believe you had a reasonable basis to believe that though and in retrospect, I feel I did exaggerate your "attack" in the telling because I lumped it all in with other things going on at the time - particularly including the fight with Steve. I felt he was a truly abusive and dangerous person deserving of removal from MM and I worked hard to assist in that. So I was angry at you for what you did that seemed to help him but believe now this was not your intent. Just bad timing. I apologize for lumping you with him.

I now sense you were undergoing some trying times during the last several months coincident with our fighting. Perhaps it was related to your romantic pursuits, maybe to things leading up to taking your new job and moving. Maybe both.

As I wrote to you before, I do wish you peace and happiness in your new pursuits.

Sincerely,
Andy



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Posted on Mon, Jun 13, 2005 08:22

The truth is, I wasn't proud of some of the things I said, regardless of my rationalization or reason.

In other cases, I simply wanted my personal feelings and thoughts removed from the public's perusal.

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Posted on Mon, Jun 13, 2005 08:07


OrionsQuest write:
Coming from a known liar, and a TOON no less, I should care what YOU say??



Go tell your wife, apparently she believes your BS!



Non Responsive.

Well, you always say you don't care what I say but come Monday you always have to revive this stale thread to answer my replies to you, don't you?

If you don't like my suggestion as to why you removed your posts then why don't you tell us the TRUTH?



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Posted on Mon, Jun 13, 2005 06:58

I am sure Orion wanted me to post this..

"well well Chai, I see the alumsnatch lesbian is as busy as ever on this site creating trouble too! "

Chai is my name on the mingles site, he just had to make a jab at me there hahahah....

What a man you are Orion!



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Posted on Fri, Jun 10, 2005 20:42

Hey Orion,

Why did you delete this original post of yours in Self-Improvement?

I thought it would be constructive to repeat part of that overlong essay.


OrionsQuest write:

There seems to be a small core group of people who have a definite opinion of who I am, although none of you have ever met me in person. Despite
suggestions to the contrary, I am neither arrogant, shallow nor vindictive. The last thing I am is a bully.

I am going to allow anyone, male or female, to suggest what it is I might do to be a better citizen of this site. You might want me to change a
particular aspect of the way I do something, or perhaps a suggestion to continue doing another thing. So there ya go... be honest, be contructive.

I might have questions, but I won't "bully" anyone for anything they say.



Why have you deleted so many posts of yours lately? So you can mis-quote your own posts out of context? To bury the evidence of what a bully, hypocrite, and liar you are?

You need help. Given all the housecleaning and manic posting from you the last several days this must be almost a full-time job for you. I hope the entertainment is worth all the time and effort you put in and the annoyance our argument is to others.

You couldn't keep the truce you proposed any more than you can tell the truth or properly quote me. You have no credibility any more Orion. Don't you know that?

You need help.

"The first step to healing is admiting you have a problem."

Ed

NOTE to MM Members: Does Orion have any friends here who care enough to help him? Call, email, or IM in private and tell him what you think.



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Posted on Fri, Jun 10, 2005 11:26

You're suggesting I get help or therapy??



You ARE my therapy Ed! I keep saying this is FUN! Haven't you heard "laughter is the best medicine"?

I haven't quit laughing since you first posted a response to me.

And no one can make you feel anything without your permission!

No one!! Hello Ed, you there? Do you think for one moment ANYTHING YOU EVER SAID made me feel anything but humored?

I kept this whole chain of events in perspective from the moment you attacked me claiming I was siding with Steve, then you lied about the allegedly ugly comments I supposedly made in an IM exchange (you know, the exchange that a month later you said you "might have got wrong")



Feigning an intellectual reparte is something you do very well.

Notice I said feel! Because even in the end, you ARE in fact a liar Ed.

(QUOTE)
I also understand you've been feverishly trying to find out more about me from some others here.
(END QUOTE)

I have not asked a single person, a single thing about you, at any time, anywhere, in any way, shape, or form.

Can I make it any plainer than that? Never. Not once. No one.

Just another lie. Don't you EVER stop prevaricating to suit your own needs?

And as far as getting into a ring, how bad could either one of us been hurt with gloves and a referee, following the rules, supervised by the local police??

I've played rugby and been hurt much worse than I ever got or gave in a "smoker".

And what do they do at the end of a rugby match, they sit down and have a beer!

I would have been more than happy to let you buy me a beer or two.

I still would.



Oh btw, I purposely kept what I had to say to you personally, private in an email. Considering the fact you mentioned it and then responded to it in public, I may very well take you up on your offer to do so...we'll see.

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Posted on Fri, Jun 10, 2005 07:27

So your claim on knowledge to the contrary is tenuous at best. They are simply incorrect beliefs. My wager is still good, and if you are right you'd be a fool not to take it. We can lower the amount if you like and you can donate it all to charity. I'd even let you publically disclose my real idenitiy if you win and lambaste me in the forums. And I'd quit MM too. - and probably will anyway - it really takes too much of my time for its entertainment value.

Anyway, I debated if I should answer you and how. I decided no further good would come from attacking you privately if you're leaving MM or intend to keep our truce because I now believe you are a disturbed individual. I don't attack infirm people. All in all, it was fun having you as a forum foil but the manner in which you acted, especially towards the end, suggests to me you really have some serious mental isses. Perhaps you should consider therapy. For someone to get this worked up, not only in the forums but to have to send me this type of email should tell you something. I know you're not stupid. It's ONLY a dating site Orion.

Listen, if it were only me, then I'm easy to ignore. But if a lot of people criticized me, even friends, and I could see I was making more enemies than friends I would consider some introspection. Think about it Orion. I don't really wish to see people die lonely and unhappy, even you. You're smart enough to change.

Good luck,
Andy



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Posted on Fri, Jun 10, 2005 07:27

REPRINT OF EMAIL REPLY TO ORION:

Orion,

I hope you find some peace and changes for the better in this new chapter of your life.

Fact is, I never lied to you, my explanation was truthful, I did reply to you, but apparently you never got it. I still recall getting the second reply from you but may have remembered it incorrectly and there is no record of it. My clarification post (defending 1HM) on that matter was truthful. You made a big deal over nothing - a lot of nothings, in fact.

I really am happily married for almost 25 years (on June 27). My wife and I both have eccentric senses of humor and enjoy a great relationship you probably can't comprehend.. But we're very happily married with 2 boys. I have never lied to or cheated on my wife though I have faced temptation (my cheating post was true - if you read that). She regularly reads MM. She has been upset a few times about my posts but no big deal. She knows it's just a dating site and we have no vested interest there as long as we remain anonymous.

I really do have a red belt in TKD. I started late in life joining when my younger son decided he wanted to take it. I'm nothing special but I can defend myself. I've fought for people and things I believe in several times at great risk to myself.

Were you really serious in calling me out to a fistfight - a stranger from a weird dating site? What would that have proven? It wouldn't have taken back the libel you spread about me sending obscene pics of myself out to MM ladies. Assuming you had won, it would only prove you're a better fighter. There are lots of people who can fight better than me. I'm not interested in proving anything to you and the people I care about know I'm no coward.

CONTINUED BELOW



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Posted on Fri, Jun 10, 2005 07:25


OrionsQuest wrote once (without naming the originator, Abigail Van Buren)
"Hanging onto resentment is like letting someone live rent free in your head."


OrionsQuest wrote:...nothing the 3 of you have ever posted matters one iota to me.


You need help Orion. You're sick. Despite Jim's and Suzan's doubts I had hoped you would obey our truce and I did not post any replies to your other libel the other day as I promised. Suzan and Jim asked me to add to your story above, which is obviously a thinly veiled attack on us. I'm not going to. I'm not taking your bait again.

Orion, you are obsessed with us. This is clear. You wrote a dimestore novella to try to satisfy your obsession and bait us. Why? You're not stupid. Think about it. I used to think you were just a harmless fool and often had fun sparring with you. But after the private email you sent me I'm no longer sure this is the case. I also understand you've been feverishly trying to find out more about me from some others here. I fear you could be a danger to me or my friends. For the first time I will be reporting you for abuse and I ask others, even friends of Orion, to do the same and do what it takes to get him to leave this site. It's doing him more harm than good and he may do harm to others.

Orion, I'll refrain from posting your private email to me (you are free to do so of course). But I'm reprinting my reply to you below. It's time people began to understand what lengths you'll go to to "win" your fights. They can infer what you wrote from my response. But please Orion, consider seeking counseling or therapy. Aren't you smart enought to realize this isn't healthy?

Sincerely,
Andy



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Posted on Fri, Jun 10, 2005 07:02

fun4two... was in N last weekend... neat city... u lived there long...jerry



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Posted on Thu, Jun 09, 2005 17:14


OrionsQuest write:
Sunti, every time I want to respond to you, I look at your pictures and all I can do is laugh!

You neither warrant my time nor attention.
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Laugh away, I could care less. I happen to be looking for a woman, obviously, unlike you.

You have a problem when people point out that when you make a statement of exactitude that happens to be incorrect?

I still want to know, as do, I am sure, the other regular MM readers of this thread:

1 - Did your mother emasculate you?
OR
2 - Did your father sexually assault you?

Your empty threats in your new thread, as well as your desire to "settle your differences" in the ring, appear as shallow attempts to hide your inferiority complex. (BTW - in your case it seems not to be a complex, just reality). People who are as erudite as you wish to be, (see your dictionary sized word usage throughout MM), rarely, if ever, resort to violence to settle any disagreement. You jump right to it, thereby destroying the image you set out to craft.

In addition, it seems to me from reading some of these threads, the original wager was for you to prove something you said about someone. Not the same as settling a difference of opinion.

You wil not respond to what I write, simply because there is no way for you to respond without telling too much about yourself. And that tells much about you. None of it good.



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Posted on Wed, Jun 08, 2005 17:04

This whole message/forum board needs some HELP!!!
I wonder if the owners of the site have ever tried to follow a thread???
BABIES??? grandbabies maybe..heh heh



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Posted on Tue, Jun 07, 2005 02:24

YourDiversion write:

Orion...They said things like this to you on the mingles message board ...(mingles) wow it is true.
hmmm.......


I love you YourDiversion. Will you have my baby?



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Posted on Mon, Jun 06, 2005 19:22


YourDiversion write:
Orion...They said things like this to you on the mingles message board ...(mingles) wow it is true.
hmmm.......




I love you YourDiversion. Will you have my baby?



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Posted on Mon, Jun 06, 2005 19:15


fun4two write:

OrionsQuest write:

Despite suggestions to the contrary, I am neither arrogant, shallow nor vindictive.



Orion...They said things like this to you on the mingles message board ...(mingles) wow it is true.
hmmm.......



Not believing this one ... yep, yep and yep!! All three!!

Three strikes ... you're out!!

~Smiles



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Posted on Mon, Jun 06, 2005 17:18

Mr. Futility,

Responding to you really is futile. You have to have the last word no matter what we say. And pretty much everything that can be said about what a jerk and hypocrite you are has already been said by us or revealed, unintentionally by you. So, to save time an effort I'm just going to rerun old favorites. Remember this Golden Oldie?:


Mandalay207 write:

I only have one suggestion for you. Do us all a favor and quit. Terminate your membership and leave the site. This of course is only my opinion, you did want some constructive ideas. Thank you, have a nice day.



Second!!!!!



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