Albert, Stephen and GOD, where are you Ed? Romance

  • View author's info Author Posted on May 02, 2005 at 06:03 PM


    I am requesting that no one post in this thread except for Ed and I until we are done discussing the finer intricacies of the thread title.

    I am unable to post further until he accepts my offer to explain his position, as I most assuredly will mine.



    So, where are you Ed?
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  • View author's info Posted on May 12, 2005 at 04:53 PM


    fun4
    "Which branch of the military"

    In the army for two years,company CO, but I was around many air force officers (120 of them) who were assigned to my org in the early days. Thus, for many years I worked with with military officers, including ret. officers. I use to listen to the older ones who were in WWII. They had stories to tell, and few today have a clue what they did for the world, their courage, etc. Yes, it expands your thinking about many things, esp leaders.
  • View author's info Posted on May 11, 2005 at 04:47 PM



    wwwww123 write:
    I think you misunderstood the post. It was the managers and CEO and founder that were doing those things for the people who were doing the critial parts of the development ie engineering and software tasks. The CEO and founder was formally a VP of Intel. He just knew who had the really critical jobs that had to be done or the company would not have a product to sell. IT was smart.



    yes 5w's I did misunderstand your post...you are correct a sign of a good leader. An example of such a leader in Canada is Clive Bedouw CEO of Westjet.
  • View author's info Posted on May 11, 2005 at 11:39 AM


    If I were wearing a red badge and having a "higher-up" fix my car, fetch my coffee or replacing an ink cartridge, I would have some decidedly defined ideas when it came to salary discussions!
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    They got stock options. That is how it is done in start-ups.

    wwwww
  • View author's info Posted on May 11, 2005 at 11:38 AM


    "A brilliant leader ... a man who teaches through example, the importance of TEAM WORK ... where each member of the team is only as important as those which he/she supports ... in whatever capacity the team needs at the present moment! What a tremendous way to command/earn respect ... to be willing to step down from the proverbial pedestal (the office of the CEO) to deliver coffee (or whatever is needed) to the working staff. The true team leader ... leading his team ... and the success of the team belongs to ALL! Love it!"

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    That is exactly right. I have seen similar leadership in the military, but never before in civilian companies.

    wwwww
  • View author's info Posted on May 10, 2005 at 11:26 PM


    I think you misunderstood the post. It was the managers and CEO and founder that were doing those things for the people who were doing the critial parts of the development ie engineering and software tasks. The CEO and founder was formally a VP of Intel. He just knew who had the really critical jobs that had to be done or the company would not have a product to sell. IT was smart.
  • View author's info Posted on May 10, 2005 at 10:28 PM


    "bringing coffee, getting food, running personal errands, getting his car fixed, picking up in-laws at the airport, etc."

    I drew the line at correcting spelling...I was never asked in any of my jobs to get someone coffee, or anything else you list. I'd quit and find a better job where you weren't being jerked around. Jobs were plentiful in the early 80's.
  • View author's info Posted on May 10, 2005 at 08:42 PM


    "I automatically corrected spelling, & punctuation. Once a Secretary who had worked there for years told me I couldn't do that! I thought she was nuts"
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    Any efficient firm has people who are good spellers, graphic artists for presentations, etc. It is foolish to pay a person $200K per year to spell and prepare presentation, etc. Even a minute saved by your key people is money.

    I once knew a CEO and founder of a high tech company who had all of the administrative staff and managers, including himself, issued two types of badges. If you weren't a person on the critical path of the project,(ie green badge) you did anything needed by the ones who were critical(ie red badge). That included bringing coffee, getting food, running personal errands, getting his car fixed, picking up in-laws at the airport, etc. Smartest manager I ever knew. His company was later bought by IBM, and forms the basis of their current computer parallel processing designs, and I am sure he made a fortune. Now, that is what I call real brains and business sense.
  • View author's info Posted on May 10, 2005 at 07:06 PM



    wwwww123 write:
    Sharp, I can be bribed easily.
    lol
    Of crse if you start argueing over splelling, etc. out the doro.



    Hahaha! 5w's you're hilarious! I gotta tell ya, there wouldn't be any arguing over spelling...I would just automatically correct it without asking! lol If you questioned it, I'd pull out my dictionary! :-))
    Years ago when I was 19, I worked as a part time legal assistent one summer. I automatically corrected spelling, & punctuation. Once a Secretary who had worked there for years told me I couldn't do that! I thought she was nuts! I did it anyways! I never had any complaints from any of the lawyers.
    Go figure...you think they want to send out a letter that makes them look illiterate; therefore, stupid? Not! lol
  • View author's info Posted on May 10, 2005 at 02:22 PM


    I dont think that this thread started out as a fight!
  • View author's info Posted on May 10, 2005 at 01:31 PM


    I second that motion wwww...only here to have fun!!
  • View author's info Posted on May 10, 2005 at 01:25 PM


    I would like to suggest that this thread be closed. We do have direct email for people wanting to fight - not fun fights, of course.
  • View author's info Posted on May 10, 2005 at 07:09 AM


    Is it safe to write on this thread now? I have nothing to say, just testing.
  • View author's info Posted on May 10, 2005 at 12:33 AM


    Sharp, I can be bribed easily.
    lol
    Of crse if you start argueing over splelling, etc. out the doro.
  • View author's info Posted on May 09, 2005 at 10:32 PM


    5W's...me to? You'd fire me to? I've never been fired in my entire life!!!! I, I, I, don't know what to say! ;-))
  • View author's info Posted on May 08, 2005 at 11:42 PM


    Let me see if I can sum up my opinion about this thread.

    If they worked for me, I would fire almost everyone who posted.

    If they happen to be visiting at my house they would be shown the door.

    What a waste of time and energy; solving nothing, doing nothing, no important ideas, or anything of value to anyone who was foolish enough to spend time reading the thread looking for something of value to the world or MM members. (I'm a fool too).

    I suggest that everyone visit the mentalhealth_com site. There are some definitions there that everyone needs to read.

    Maybe we need laws against the misuse of electricity and bandwidth????

    lol
  • View author's info Posted on May 05, 2005 at 01:12 PM


    Did I miss something? When did Orion prove that there is a God?
  • View author's info Posted on May 05, 2005 at 12:48 PM


    So, based on my earlier post on lying, you are conceding that pretty much anyone, including yourself, at any given time can be accused of telling a lie. (based on your statement that you don't IM or email anyone, but yet, in fact you did.) And that it can also be somewhat conveyed as normal behavior by pretty much all individuals by bending, twisting and manipulating certain words or phrases which can be used to make one self look better, which you have tried throughout this thread. By no means am I calling you a liar, but now you can see how many people can make false claims against someone else. Thank you for proving my point on lying.

    I do accept your apology from before. We all have taken this thread down a path it should not have gone.

    Now, if you and Ed are still interested and as Sixfeet previously said, I'd enjoy it if you both debated the topic at hand.

    And yes, now Orion, I am officially retired from this thread, my integrity intact.
  • View author's info Posted on May 05, 2005 at 12:37 PM


    Moon, you simply continue to amaze me.

    Despite the fact I asked you not to post, thereby exposing yourself to malicious intent, you choose to do so anyway in an effort to simply present the truth for all to see.

    Considering what had already been said, that was a very courageous and decent act.

    My word is my bond (unlike others here), and because you have done so, I'll honor your request.

    These are in fact, my last words in this thread...

    Thank you.
  • View author's info Posted on May 05, 2005 at 12:36 PM


    Is that right Hotmama, Ed sent it to you?

    And you're now claiming it happened just like he said??



    And what? You just happen to NOW remember you have a copy?



    But alas, it's buried in some 500 other emails from Ed!



    Wait a minute. Wait a minute! Did you consider just checking the emails from that day rather than all 500??

    Or perhaps because my comprehension skills are left wanting, did you mean to imply he sent you 500 emails that day?



    Well I certainly can't think of a better testament to your claim as an atheist than to boldly lie!

    After all, no GOD is watching you, right?



    Ed you must be very proud of yourself, dragging other people down to your level. Or was it the other way around??

    Why don't you step up and tell the truth?

    I certainly won't think less of you, and in fact, I might even find a glimmer of respect for you for the first time.
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