I have gotten more emails than I can count wanting me to meet the guy not for a "date" date, but for a drink and sex. His explanation......I want to see if we're compatible in bed. before this goes any further. I say BULLSHIT. He just wants to get laid and move on!! Comments???
Naughymissy.........Not to be unkind, it is not my way to hurt anyone's feelings but I agree withTomigirl, a nickname and pic. are the first inpressions........ALSO I describe Mistress as a woman with whom a man has a usually long-tern extramarital sexual relationship, and often provides financial support, that is how most people see that word........(not as you have describe it).......so you might want to think about it ........ ......
Ok this is just my opinion ladies. Babeat i agree with you to point. 1HM you hit it closer on the head with your version. I have been in both situations and it is very true when someone says something about someone really nasty then you have several of them coming right behind. Instead of letting the two fight there own battles they have people no ones ever heard of crashing in. In an opinion situation several can join in and disagree. But then one doesn't like the answers and here comes half of their friends.Now mind you the first time one of those people said something the other did not like,they would be bashing them. Because none of us know many of these people. they are not "true friends"If the situation rises i would prefer to battle it out just the two of us but no way hosea will that happen. I have been in that click and then i was not. People dislike you on the say so of others. Not on your own merit. It is EXACTLY like being in HS. When a person is slammed it is usually by a total stranger who has a poor sense of self. If you disagree with someone you can do it on a very neg.basis but with no malice. And many here do take it VERY PERSONALLY.Bad attitude with as many personalities which lie here. I have had the privilege of knowing several of these ladies very well in mail of course. And i would always like to think if we disagreed about something then it would be just that. Not a permanent friendship finisher. I know i am that way. If i get angry at a "friend" i talk but she is still my friend...Here "friends" come and go on a whim. Ok just my little ole knowledgeable opinion...
Hey Hotmamma....Well your right about cliques...I guess the only thing that makes me really angry here,and I have complained only once during the last year,is when someone engages in plain old character assasination.That's an order of magnitude in difference from opinion.This has managed to be a pretty civil place....yaaay all....but when a person steps out of the bounds of opinion and begins to just throw out name calling...comments from out of the blue like,we'll since you know this or that you must be a hooker...or..just anything attacking the person giving the opinion,not the opinion itself..I've done it myself and was mortified...And yes...if someone attacks the character of my friend,not their opinion mind you,but the "person" of my friend,I am going to complain and say it loud.It's not something I ordinarily do.There are some just tasteless almost trashy comments and means of expression but I don't say much....maybe I mutter tacky...under my breath but I'm not going to get on here and call someone tacky or trashy becauuse I don't like the way they express themselves.That's attacking the person and it's wrong.If you catch me doing it...call me on it please....
Generally when we band together here it's because someone has made a nasty snap judgement or made a remark disparraging someone those of us who have been here a while have come to know and be very fond of.Remarks that are nasty,hurtful,WRONG and otherwise serve no purpose but to put someone down.What gets our dander up is that it usually happens to the nicest,most underserving people...like you Alberto...and those who have recently experienced the same type of just "nasty" jabs.That's about the only thing that ever gets me really angry around here.Otherwise I enjoy differing opinions even if we do ride the horse long after it's dead on some subjects..that's another thread altogether..lol
Alberto.....with all the LONG posts, I have to wonder....what do you do for work?? Do you work? I can't see how anyone has the kind of time that you seem to have writing all these 'books' on the site.......just curious!!
Euro Charm - Don?t take it to heart. There are people on this site who understand your motive, and those who interpret it differently, taking the subject into different directions.
As you said, the internet is a great place to get to know someone. One should get a good feel for the individual they plan to meet. Everyone I?ve met (only 1 on MM) were respectable, sincere and not looking to get laid. Like myself & others, they were looking for that elusive soul mate to love and share the joys & pitfalls of life.
There should never be a debate on the sexual behaviour or any kind of behaviour between US vs. European or any other nationality, because if there are disreputable & rude individuals in Europe, they exist in US, Canada, South America?on every continent in the world. Example:
On a business trip in Tortola, USVI, staying at a 5-Star Beach resort, up since 3 a.m., a 12 hr travel day, it?s late, tired, hungry, I inquired where I could eat, and was told only one restaurant was open. Nothing was said about the dress. I changed into nice dress shorts & silk tank top?elegantly casual dress. I was sooooo under dressed. Men were in suit & tie, or Tux?ladies dressed to kill wearing their finest jewellery. Tired, I wasn?t changing. Everyone stared at me. Patrons were both European and American. I felt a little self-conscious. A table 8 Americans sat about 30 ft from me. They were very wealthy & 1 woman let it be known loud & clear to all! She was about 45 to 50 yrs. Her voice carried to all corners of this large room. Some of her comments: ?We?ve been to Marseille 8 times. My father just looooves Marseillle. We?re going again next May.? Then, ?Parisians loooove Americans, but they HATE the Japanese!? After the latter comment, you could have heard a pin drop! All eyes left me and shocked stares from everyone rested upon her. This pompous arrogant woman was completely oblivious to the distain and contempt her prejudiced remark had raised. Her behaviour was abominable. And as I too have friends and family who are Americans, it would be a mistake for me to stereotype the millions of others to be like her.
Any Europeans I have met have been extremely polite in their conduct and speech?old school, 1930?s. We Canadians and Americans no longer adhere to such mannerisms & etiquette. Anyone who has travelled, knows this. That?s not to say we do not have good manners?most do, just not to that degree anymore. It shows in our kids. I?m sure there are rude Europeans too?lol
Hi, I'm new to the forums. I had to throw a couple of pennies into the "get laid" topic.
I, personally, really want to get laid. I really do. But when you put the word "just" in there, it changes the whole meaning. I want more than that, and "just" isn't enough. For some guys it is, no matter what they say.
Guys don't want to be "just" a checkbook to us and we don't like being "just" an orgasm to them. The only way to tell if a guy will respect you after getting horizontal with you is to know him as well as you can. Waiting a certain number of dates before sex will not "make" him respect you and I have found that strict rules like that can kill the desire. You have five dates where you're so hot for each other you can hardly stand it, and then finally you reach the magic number and start to get it on and find all that passion is just gone. It fizzled out somewhere in all that denial of gratification.
So wait long enough to know with reasonable certainty that the guy is honorable, but don't get hung up on waiting a prescribed length of time.
It has been a while since I've logged into the forum and read any posts, and I must say I am a bit shocked at what has transpired over the past 10 days or so.
First of all, I wish to say that my purpose for being on here was to contribute my viewpoint on the subject and hopefully spark some intelligent and though-provoking conversation. I am not here to insult anybody or put people down. We are all adults, aren't we? If you go back and read my few posts, you will see that I have never insulted anyone on this forum.
Furthermore, I am disappointed to see that I have been lumped in with EuropeanQT and several of the posts on here refer to the "Euro" ladies. First of all, please don't lump me in with someone I don't even know and assume we are one and the same. Secondly, what started out as an expression of opinion has turned into a rather typical (sadly) US vs. Them rally.
Just to set the record straight, I live in Canada, travel regularly to the States, have American friends, and friends/family in Europe as well. My perspective is derived directly from my experiences and I also realize that I don't have all the answers and that not all people can be lumped into the same categories. I request the same for myself.
Finally - yes, men just want to get laid sometimes. So do women. I don't have a problem with that in itself- what I would request from a prospective partner is to be honest about it and not put on false pretenses just to get into bed with me. Just be honest - now there's a concept that works!
I don't get what anybody gets out of endless chat of lies. Ask them to substiate everything. If they won't or the reaction is absurdly hostile, aren't you glad you asked? There is ALWAYS a way to substantiate. If they are cooperative, they will be creative enough to back it up.
Well, maybe not the disease part. conduct your exam while close, and then go through with it, or not as is your preference.. I'm sure a comment "I just remembered I have a little infiection in my mouh, better not" will get you out of smoothly if need be.
And pay atttentions. Drugs Free and Drug Free. Close but different.
Sames with Diseases Free. BTW, a litte birdy told me we all secretly have it. I know, most are without symptoms, but you all know what I'm talking about. Shssss. Let's keep it to our little group, MillionaireMatch.com.
Wait, my friend just informed me it's not a diseasse.. It's a stinky thing you get when you go days without a shower. I'm CURED!
OH but Tomi I want to have fun!!!!. I just might put on my short skirt and low cut blouse(wonderbra to the rescue) 4"heels and find Alberto in the bar while trapsing thru Italy. Wouldn't he be surprise!!!!!!! And it would be such fun to be naughty!!!!
Lola2005...I read what u said bout the sisterhood, hate to say this...it's not dribble & I think it's a great topic. I am a verteran of this site & have seen just about every type of man on this site.It is no fun to go thru months of chatting im's & on phone to these men to find out it was all lies. I hope that never happens to u.But then some of us are here for more than a romp in the sack. I want a lifetime partner & an honest one at that! Good Luck to u...Jolene
Alberto that was a funny what if!!!!. But i think at one time or another in our lives we have met that person who the chemistry is electric and the waiting does not happen. But as a rule now a days you have to be a little more careful. If it happens then it does. But i have to agree with the ladies there are many men who just make it a point to see if they can get someone in bed on the first date. It's ALL about sex only. And if you are into "just sex" then go for it. But most of us would like to have a relationship and do not know the person at all so why would you want to sleep with every single person you meet "just because" he might come back and really think you are hot stuff. I don't think so. There are those who you might just want to sleep with but seldom will you have a lasting relationship with them.
Now if they are really looking and so are you and chemistry is hot and all the rest they really like then you have a chance of a continued relationship.
But you have to remeber it's not like we live in the same town and can see these people frequently. So sometimes you do things too fast or too slow. Sometimes you just have to stick to your own guns in how you think you want to procede............
Now this might be my very last post on this site, because.. it has kind of appalled me to find so much prejudice here.
I have read many posts on american women and european women. Frankly.. I'm surprised by the stereotypes thrown around here.
I have travelled the world and lived in different countries. I have friends that are american and I've been to the states on a couple of occasions. My experience is that there isn't that big a difference between european and american..
Myself, being a swedish girl have faced the stereotypes connected to europeans and swedish girls. Now.. I don't recognize myself nor my friends in those.
We do NOT have nude beaches all over the place. In fact there are very few and those are secluded. We have one place in the city I live in that is totally covered and men and women are seperated. That's it. Should anybody drop their clothes on a public beach they would be arrested. And I would most certainly not feel comfortable doing so! Sunbathing topless is allowed but far from everybody does it.
Also hearing about the bitchyness that we supposedly have, had me stunned. Neither me nor anybody I know of my fellow citizens nor friends from different countries in europe are like that. In fact being humble is a highly regarded trait that are strived after. And being awful when men approach is just bogus. So is the fact that we sleep with just about anybody!
We are not hypocritical when it comes to sex but that doesn't mean that we do it whenever with whoever. A nipple shown on TV is ok, whereas severe violence is not. We don't have rules that sex on the first date is tabu but ok on the 3rd or 7th! You do it when it feels right. It is purely individual, just the same as for my american friends.
I'm comfortable with myself, my body and sexuality. In fact my exhusband and I had sex on our first date. The relationship lasted 8 years. We knew eachother since before but that was the actual first date. There was no disrespect, just attraction and infatuation.
And as for having disrespect for people that gives it up easy.. I don't know about the states but overhere.. men can be judged as easy and nondesirables if they sleep around just as well as women can. In fact the easiest person with the worst reputation that I've ever known in my life has been a man.
It seems as the opinion on european women comes from tacky old movies from the seventies... how many have actually been to europe and met europeans?
Fact is that europe is huge, just as the US. You will find different people with different morals and points of view on both continents.
And going back to the original thread..men like sex. Most of them want it whenever they can get it. Many women like it and want it too. It's nature. I don't see anything wrong with a purely sexual relationship if both parts are consenting adults. It's none of mine or anybody elses business. Why being so judgemental about it?
Myself, I want a real relationship. I want to fall in love. I joined this site because I haven't found anybody in my neck of the woods that I have fallen for, but the common idea of nonamerican ladies, seem to be that we're young sexthings to hang on your arm and flaunt. I'm pretty discouraged by this and seriously considering leaving this site. Not because I don't get any emails. I do. But I want a real man and a real relationship. Not to be a throphy, and I'm most certainly no golddigger!
I realise this may come across as bitter and angry.. and I'm really a pretty easygoing person, but after getting (introduction )emails from males saying:" you're beautiful, I earn this much money come to vegas and marry me. " and then reading the posts in here.. it makes me upset and sad.
Now I do know that not everybody thinks like this, as I said, I've visited the US and I have friends overthere, but I guess I needed to vent.