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Posted on Mon, May 22, 2006 16:25

wow there is an auction?

Dont worry lombard you look fine, from a blokes point of view anyway. Im sure there would be plent of ladies bidding. You would fetch a hefty sum!



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Posted on Mon, May 22, 2006 09:14

Lombard write:
I'm afraid that the price I would fetch at auction would not be worth the effort of putting me there.


You are all ready there on the auction block and quite a hot property.



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Posted on Sat, May 20, 2006 11:24

My God Katie, you've been out with some rough ones, did they leave the toilet seat up , drop dirty washing on the floor, squeeze the toothpaste from the top.
There are guys out there who commit any of these heinous crimes, but are still bad' boys

  


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Posted on Sat, May 20, 2006 08:16

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But, Katiegirl, farting and belching are funny, aren't they? I think, in fact, that they are the highest form of humor.

Your post also confirms my position. You want a conditional manly man, which is contradictory. Manly men may not accept your criteria of judgement, or even notice them, because manly men make their own rules. You are perfectly free to reject the jocular farter, and they are perfectly free to fill the air with their fragrant masculinity, and never the twain shall meet.

Besides, I know when a relationship is good when my partner is unafraid to fart and belch in front of me.

So, despite our veneer of civility and higher education, we men are juvenile and self -centered. As long as we get that clear, our two species can co- exist.

Sunshine, I'm glad to see your smiling face back on.

As for our illogical fantasies, any man who reveals them in public would be permanantly marked as a troll. However, we all grew up wanting to be James Bond, with all that it implies.


Sean Connery Bond? Yes?!



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Posted on Fri, May 19, 2006 09:14

Sounds like a song to me, kinda like Where have all the flowers gone, picked by mean bastards everyone.



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Posted on Fri, May 19, 2006 01:59

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RapturousRed write:
Sunshine, why are you hidden? It's so cloudy without you!

(of course I mean that in a non-lesbian way!)


Oh my, my dentist is going to love you for that! Aren't you tired of my photo? I am tired of looking at it.

By the way, any woman who gets you as a mother-in-law is lucky. Not only gets a great guy, but as a by-product, a Mom like you, priceless.

Speaking of priceless, have you put your bids in at the romance auction? Robtest is on sale this week!

lol...obviously not, but I do know what you mean - I'm tired of my pic too....Need a haircut then maybe a new pic...

Gosh, you just made me blush! Thank you. That is a priceless compliment.

Speaking of which, I just put my bid(s) in last night. I hate to shop, but who can resist a sale?!

Hey Rob, it's not really pandering, it's a different approach to match-making (lol...the way we can rationalize,huh?). Yea, money can't buy love, but it can buy a little pleasure, yes?



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Posted on Fri, May 19, 2006 00:10

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Speaking of priceless, have you put your bids in at the romance auction? Robtest is on sale this week!


I don't know where that came from??? In my profile, it says that I want to be pampered, not pandered!!! ROFLMAO...

What is this auction stuff all about?


Don't you worry your pretty little abs about it. It's all good.



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Posted on Thu, May 18, 2006 21:23

Lombard write:
This one of my favorite topics. The specific question is about "manly men", but the real question being asked is why can't I find someone who has all the dangerous manly qualities I like, except that he is honest, loyal, considerate, faithful and smells good. Some desires are just mutually exclusive. Manly men are usually that way because they are not self - examining people. They are forces of nature. This self sufficiency can come across as cruelty. The lack of self reflection can come off as narrowmindedness. He might persue his manly persuits at the expense of the relationship. After rebuilding the 1968 Charger, playing poker with the boys, going hunting in Canada, going to the drag races and hanging out at Diamond Girls with Cheyenne and Savanah, there may not be much room for Foreign films and Sushi.

THe reality is that every woman wants a bad boy so that they can tame him But then he won't be a bad boy anymore , and you will lose interest.

Don't worry. We men have just as illogical fantasies.


Lombard, I so do not want a "bad boy." What I DO want is a fun, confident, adventurous, self-assured man and I have met them. They DO exist! They're attractive, (to me) nice, thoughtful and ... "fragrant."

I'm not into foreign films and chick flicks. I hate raw fish, while I simultaneously don't mind if a man is into auto mechanics, poker, fishing - because hunting is barbaric, and so on. I just want men who don't commit the following unforgiveable sins:

- Farting or belching in front of women and thinking it's funny,

- Teaching young boys to fart and belch in front of women because it's funny,

- Leaving tons of stuble in their bathroom sinks,

- Not putting real toilet paper on the the bathroom tissue roller,

- wearing socks with sandals,

- believing, with every fiber of their being, that porn is real and is how we really want sex,

- making dinner if they're gonna use every bloody pot and pan in the house.

- backwashing into the milk carton,

That's about it! I'm sure there's others but these'll do for now.

Oh. The reason I'm not with an adventurous guy now? They're married already!

Tell us some of your illogical fantasies and we'll tell you if it's possible to turn fantasy into reality.



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Posted on Thu, May 18, 2006 18:15

Australia is not only full of manly men, but it is our stereotype!!!

aussie men are always portrayed as MEN. here we call them blokes... bloke means manly man..haha... anyways..

Hope you find your, bloke!



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Posted on Thu, May 18, 2006 16:46

seattlesunshine write:

Speaking of priceless, have you put your bids in at the romance auction? Robtest is on sale this week!


I don't know where that came from??? In my profile, it says that I want to be pampered, not pandered!!! ROFLMAO...

What is this auction stuff all about?



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Posted on Thu, May 18, 2006 15:21

RapturousRed write:
Sunshine, why are you hidden? It's so cloudy without you!

(of course I mean that in a non-lesbian way!)


Oh my, my dentist is going to love you for that! Aren't you tired of my photo? I am tired of looking at it.

By the way, any woman who gets you as a mother-in-law is lucky. Not only gets a great guy, but as a by-product, a Mom like you, priceless.

Speaking of priceless, have you put your bids in at the romance auction? Robtest is on sale this week!



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Posted on Thu, May 18, 2006 15:02

Sunshine, why are you hidden? It's so cloudy without you!

(of course I mean that in a non-lesbian way!)



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Posted on Thu, May 18, 2006 07:39

alexiaa write:

seattlesunshine write:

alexiaa write:
Lombard write:
This one of my favorite topics. The specific question is about "manly men", but the real question being asked is why can't I find someone who has all the dangerous manly qualities I like, except that he is honest, loyal, considerate, faithful and smells good. Some desires are just mutually exclusive. Manly men are usually that way because they are not self - examining people. They are forces of nature. This self sufficiency can come across as cruelty. The lack of self reflection can come off as narrowmindedness. He might persue his manly persuits at the expense of the relationship. After rebuilding the 1968 Charger, playing poker with the boys, going hunting in Canada, going to the drag races and hanging out at Diamond Girls with Cheyenne and Savanah, there may not be much room for Foreign films and Sushi.

THe reality is that every woman wants a bad boy so that they can tame him But then he won't be a bad boy anymore , and you will lose interest.
Don't worry. We men have just as illogical fantasies.
How eloquently put. However we women are sensitive and most of us really very insecure, which drives many of us to become control freeks,and ruins many relationships, this starts from our childhood years. It is inbred in our code of upbringing due to the competition out there.We girls have a tremendous pressure applied on us in order to get the breast of the chicken on a dinning table and but we got the breast of the chicken it is easy to stomack then we start to wish that we had the bonny pieces,becuse they are more challanging. I believe a relationship with a bad boy requires balancing act. if you meet a bad boy be a bad girl. Just turn the tables around.
You will see that your relationship will improve drasticaly.
kisses



Not to detract from the budding romance in the earlier posts, but L, A, remember that the OP is only 18. Her perspective is far different from yours or mine. Do not think that she is as jaded as the rest of us.

Little sister is so young, she is most likely looking for someone like her Dad or brothers. It could very well be that things are different on the west coast, Lombard. Here the metrosexual male is common. In my age group, the pressure to preserve youth to be competitive in the work place is nearly as strong for men as it is for women. In this quest the traditional gender lines become blurred and for most of us women, we start longing for a man who is not as complicated as we are.



Sweetie as much as agree with your sensetive approach ..OP, is 18 and she is clearly stating that she is after a manly man.
not a brotherly father figure, altough she might think that this is what she will get in a manly man a father/brother figure. she might be in a suprise .So If we want her to survive in the diretion that she has chosen then we better give her an advice which fits and helps in her journey. Now we all know what a manly man is about.., and no place for a shrinking violet when she is facing caos of emotions and let downs. I wish the world out there was pure and inisant. But it is not so.
However, as much as we try to protect our daughters from heart breaks, simply we can not...
they usualy have to face the world alone and learn it in the hard way.
kisses


I am only guessing, she can speak for herself, but her role model for a manly man is probably her brother or father. I am not inferring that she is looking for a father or brother figure. Not in the least. Early modeling is how perceptions are formed. It is said, that a girl must resolve issues with her Father or she is destined to marry him, again and again.

Perhaps I am coming off as contradictory to your advise, when I am gilding the lily. All points of view are valid.



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Posted on Thu, May 18, 2006 06:35

alexiaa write:
Lombard write:
This one of my favorite topics. The specific question is about "manly men", but the real question being asked is why can't I find someone who has all the dangerous manly qualities I like, except that he is honest, loyal, considerate, faithful and smells good. Some desires are just mutually exclusive. Manly men are usually that way because they are not self - examining people. They are forces of nature. This self sufficiency can come across as cruelty. The lack of self reflection can come off as narrowmindedness. He might persue his manly persuits at the expense of the relationship. After rebuilding the 1968 Charger, playing poker with the boys, going hunting in Canada, going to the drag races and hanging out at Diamond Girls with Cheyenne and Savanah, there may not be much room for Foreign films and Sushi.

THe reality is that every woman wants a bad boy so that they can tame him But then he won't be a bad boy anymore , and you will lose interest.
Don't worry. We men have just as illogical fantasies.
How eloquently put. However we women are sensitive and most of us really very insecure, which drives many of us to become control freeks,and ruins many relationships, this starts from our childhood years. It is inbred in our code of upbringing due to the competition out there.We girls have a tremendous pressure applied on us in order to get the breast of the chicken on a dinning table and but we got the breast of the chicken it is easy to stomack then we start to wish that we had the bonny pieces,becuse they are more challanging. I believe a relationship with a bad boy requires balancing act. if you meet a bad boy be a bad girl. Just turn the tables around.
You will see that your relationship will improve drasticaly.
kisses


Not to detract from the budding romance in the earlier posts, but L, A, remember that the OP is only 18. Her perspective is far different from yours or mine. Do not think that she is as jaded as the rest of us.

Little sister is so young, she is most likely looking for someone like her Dad or brothers. It could very well be that things are different on the west coast, Lombard. Here the metrosexual male is common. In my age group, the pressure to preserve youth to be competitive in the work place is nearly as strong for men as it is for women. In this quest the traditional gender lines become blurred and for most of us women, we start longing for a man who is not as complicated as we are.



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Posted on Thu, May 18, 2006 05:07

RapturousRed write:
He is a cutie and a fine young man. His dad still lives in San Jose and in fact was just out there recently. He was born in CA but raised here. Has that special blend....oh, there I go again - sorry! But now I'm thinking...oh my gosh, aren't you officially 'jail bait' for him since he's over 21?! I'll be in touch...



Search for "age of consent CA" and look for the "ageofconsent" place...

CALIFORNIA
PENAL CODE
SECTION 261-269


261.5. (a) Unlawful sexual intercourse is an act of sexual intercourse accomplished with a person who is not the spouse of the perpetrator, if the person is a minor.

For the purposes of this section, a "minor" is a person under the age of 18 years and an "adult" is a person
who is at least 18 years of age.

(b) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor who is not more than three years
older or three years younger than the perpetrator, is guilty of a misdemeanor.



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Posted on Wed, May 17, 2006 16:32

HoldinOutForAHero write:
RapturousRed write:
HoldinOutForAHero write:
RapturousRed write:
HoldinOutForAHero write:
okay so I'm 18, yes but i've dated quite a bit.. and i'm sooo completely tired of all these GQ men, and metrosexuals.. where are all the guys that want me to grab them a beer while they watch the game? hell, where are the guys that just watch the game? I'll even sit down the watch the game with(but thats because i actually want to)
I'm pretty sure a manly man is extinct

Okay, I hate rain on everyone's parade, but I cannot believe no one has yet asked the $64k question: Just what is a 'manly man', HOFAH?

If a 'manly man' means someone who wants you to fetch his beer while he watches sports, then you may want to be careful of what you ask for, as you may very well get that and a whole lot of other traits you may not find so attractive over time.

If what you mean is you prefer the more "traditional" male/female roles, then that may be somewhat different.
Does the traditional view of "traditional" even apply when so many people have not lived the 'traditional' life? You still have to make a conscious decision that his desires, goals, dreams and household rules are more important than your own.

You don't say the age range of men you've dated. If you're staying within 5-7 yrs of your age, perhaps you should give some of those men a little break. They, like you, are still in a growing
stage.

Now, the guy who knocks you over to get to the mirror or takes longer than you to get dressed - RUN!

smiles

lets see... my definition of a "manly man" like i said.. a man who enjoy's his sports.. works on the cars on the weekend, likes getting dirty, the list can go on, sunshine was pretty dead on...

And no i'm not looking for the guy that's a sexist pig... you know the traditional 40's man..thinks my only place is in the kitchen

the whole thing on the age.. i've been known to date up to 10 yrs older then me.. so i think they would be a bit 'mature" by the time they are 28

so coming to a conclusion.. the only guys that i have dated are just the GQ guys that think all I want are expensive dinners and nice jewlery (which arent bad) but I want a guy who i can take to a baseball game, drink a beer with, and actually have him understand the game.. it's rediculous how much guys have come unglued from "america's favorite past time"

*shrugs*

That helps better define what 'manly man' means to you, HOFAH, and that's really what I was looking for.

Maybe you should cosider moving to the midwest. Having lived in CA, I know the men there are a unique breed and many who are self-centered and focused on how they look, what they have, what they're going to have, etc. Unless they came from somewhere else, then they're not quite as bad. Midwest guys are, in general, more earthy.

Hey, check out my son (he's in a pic in my profile). He's 22, has most of the characteristics you're looking for (he doesn't labor with his hands, though)but loves his sports, often takes his dates to sporting events (if they know what's the game's about), hanging out with friends to shoot pool. Good young man, and honestly not just cuz I'm his mother!

your son is cute!!! if you can message me, and i'll give you my email

He is a cutie and a fine young man. His dad still lives in San Jose and in fact was just out there recently. He was born in CA but raised here. Has that special blend....oh, there I go again - sorry! But now I'm thinking...oh my gosh, aren't you officially 'jail bait' for him since he's over 21?! I'll be in touch...



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Posted on Tue, May 16, 2006 11:18

alexiaa write:

robtest write:
seattlesunshine write:
preciouz write:
alexiaa write:
Haven049 write:
i am waiting for the man who looks at me like i am prey,grunts then drags me to the cave by my hair. but gets us both a beer later. twisted?

No honey... it is so normal how you feel.
I am sure we all have the same dream.
a man who grunts... as long as they dont snore afterwards.
kisses


And if he does snore...get him a snoring aid....lol


So you let them stay overnight?


It is best not to toss a grunter out in to the night, especially in a full moon. That is unless it wasn't very satisfying. ROFLMAO... You never know when you might want to get grunted again in the morning!

thats sound so so so.......... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
incredibly sexy. lol

I better get my self loads of snoring aids just in case.....You never know.....:)...lol

  


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Posted on Mon, May 15, 2006 16:29

seattlesunshine write:
preciouz write:
alexiaa write:
Haven049 write:
i am waiting for the man who looks at me like i am prey,grunts then drags me to the cave by my hair. but gets us both a beer later. twisted?

No honey... it is so normal how you feel.
I am sure we all have the same dream.
a man who grunts... as long as they dont snore afterwards.
kisses


And if he does snore...get him a snoring aid....lol


So you let them stay overnight?


It is best not to toss a grunter out in to the night, especially in a full moon. That is unless it wasn't very satisfying. ROFLMAO... You never know when you might want to get grunted again in the morning!



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Posted on Sun, May 14, 2006 17:49

preciouz write:
alexiaa write:
Haven049 write:
i am waiting for the man who looks at me like i am prey,grunts then drags me to the cave by my hair. but gets us both a beer later. twisted?

No honey... it is so normal how you feel.
I am sure we all have the same dream.
a man who grunts... as long as they dont snore afterwards.
kisses


And if he does snore...get him a snoring aid....lol


So you let them stay overnight?

  


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Posted on Sun, May 14, 2006 04:39

HoldinOutForAHero write:
RapturousRed write:
HoldinOutForAHero write:
okay so I'm 18, yes but i've dated quite a bit.. and i'm sooo completely tired of all these GQ men, and metrosexuals.. where are all the guys that want me to grab them a beer while they watch the game? hell, where are the guys that just watch the game? I'll even sit down the watch the game with(but thats because i actually want to)
I'm pretty sure a manly man is extinct

Okay, I hate rain on everyone's parade, but I cannot believe no one has yet asked the $64k question: Just what is a 'manly man', HOFAH?

If a 'manly man' means someone who wants you to fetch his beer while he watches sports, then you may want to be careful of what you ask for, as you may very well get that and a whole lot of other traits you may not find so attractive over time.

If what you mean is you prefer the more "traditional" male/female roles, then that may be somewhat different.
Does the traditional view of "traditional" even apply when so many people have not lived the 'traditional' life? You still have to make a conscious decision that his desires, goals, dreams and household rules are more important than your own.

You don't say the age range of men you've dated. If you're staying within 5-7 yrs of your age, perhaps you should give some of those men a little break. They, like you, are still in a growing
stage.

Now, the guy who knocks you over to get to the mirror or takes longer than you to get dressed - RUN!

smiles

lets see... my definition of a "manly man" like i said.. a man who enjoy's his sports.. works on the cars on the weekend, likes getting dirty, the list can go on, sunshine was pretty dead on...

And no i'm not looking for the guy that's a sexist pig... you know the traditional 40's man..thinks my only place is in the kitchen

the whole thing on the age.. i've been known to date up to 10 yrs older then me.. so i think they would be a bit 'mature" by the time they are 28

so coming to a conclusion.. the only guys that i have dated are just the GQ guys that think all I want are expensive dinners and nice jewlery (which arent bad) but I want a guy who i can take to a baseball game, drink a beer with, and actually have him understand the game.. it's rediculous how much guys have come unglued from "america's favorite past time"

*shrugs*

That helps better define what 'manly man' means to you, HOFAH, and that's really what I was looking for.

Maybe you should cosider moving to the midwest. Having lived in CA, I know the men there are a unique breed and many who are self-centered and focused on how they look, what they have, what they're going to have, etc. Unless they came from somewhere else, then they're not quite as bad. Midwest guys are, in general, more earthy.

Hey, check out my son (he's in a pic in my profile). He's 22, has most of the characteristics you're looking for (he doesn't labor with his hands, though)but loves his sports, often takes his dates to sporting events (if they know what's the game's about), hanging out with friends to shoot pool. Good young man, and honestly not just cuz I'm his mother!



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