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Posted on Sun, Aug 27, 2006 06:56

AVOID RUSSIAN WOMEN AND THAT WHOLE SITUATION...

I know from 5 years of personal experience. Huge expenses, huge lies, huge heart aches, huge scam! Nough said... not really...

My Russian wife actually wanted to come to the USA and was afraid to because some idiot over there likely has a gun to her head. She actually fell in love with me and to this day still tells me to wait for her. Even when they want to come to be with you, sometimes the situations they are in over there are sooooo complex (i.e. mafia or the equivalent) that you cannot do anything about it.

I also know from personal experience that when it gets that complex, the US government cannot help you either. The only way to extract a woman that is in trouble is to act as or hire mercanaries to act as your own body guard etc while you extract them assuming visas are ready in Moscow and pending them coming in for the interviews and medical exams. That takes a week in Moscow alone.

Don't get yourself into that mess. It is sad that people are under those levels of control, but it is not our problem and don't make the mistake like I did to try and make it your problem.

Just forget they exist. You are better off... Put the effort into some nice lady here in the USA, or in Europe at least, where they live similarly and at least speak English as a second language.

Russia is a strange and dark place regardless of what others will have you to believe. I've been there many times, speak Russian, and know enough now to avoid it for the rest of my life.

If you are smart, you'll take my $50K in advice because that is about what I spent on my own efforts, and when all was said and done, there is a beautiful girl and her daughter still stuck under the thumb of some tyrant that put her on the Internet to extract visas and money from me with false love and sex.

That is what you have to look forward to potentially (likely).

Worse if she came and took 50% of your assets too.

Doug

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Posted on Sat, Aug 26, 2006 09:45

Don't feel secure? Not confident? Then forget this idea...something already bothers you about her.
If you still need a help please feel free to contact me and I will give you some advise how to get real Russian woman.



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Posted on Wed, Aug 09, 2006 09:53

I just read what you wrote regarding Russian women. I just wanna let you know something. I heard so many many times when men goes there to find true love and women for lifetime, that's not what they end up with.Those women are not real, they wanna get out of poor life not because they love the man. If you wanna find true love then go for women there will come from a country on the same level as USA, where women have a great job, earn good money for them self have a nice lifestyle, those women want to find true love and a man they can love..my advise to all men.. stay away from women from Russia they are not honest and true, they stay with you as long as they have to, to get a permit citizenship in USA and after that bye bye. Find women from Europe but stay far away from East Europe..is just my advise



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Posted on Thu, Jun 22, 2006 21:22

Hurrah for the Brits on this thread, great advice. As to those who stereotype "russian" women as being all bad, obviously that's a generalization that cannot stand. I have the great fortune of living in a gorgeous California town that is visited often by women from all over the world and there are wonderful people from every country (just like the bad apples). I get an unusually large number of solicitations from women claiming to be from the FSU or from Africa. The most obvious way to tell a fake is to ask for additional photos that don't look like they were scanned from an Eastern European model catalog (i.e.-pictures from birthdays, graduations, years ago, etc...). Also, guys in the USA, don't even think about trying to date internationally if you're not willing to travel to their country first. Maybe make it part of a larger trip so that if it turns out to have been a scam, you still have plenty of vacation left. Hold on to your kidneys and don't drink anything you didn't order yourself for a couple days, then you can put your internals at risk. There are just as many incredibly beautiful and intelligent women from other countries trying to meet men here as there are men here wanting to meet them. I agree with a few posts that women from overseas tend to be more educated and cultured (sorry US girls but it's true), but that means it's more likely they can visit the US through a university o



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Posted on Fri, Jun 09, 2006 14:52

puskin_uk write:
This topic makes interesting reading :)

Guys, IF you really want to have a FSU lady as a wife, do a lot of research, ( check to see how long her profile has been posted) and be realistic about age differences.

Be honest with her, and visit her country first.. you are MOST unlikely to get a VISA for her unless you can show serious correspondence and meetings.

Most women of the Former Soviet Union are very well educated, and family ( the home) are very important to them.

You can only be scammed if you aren't sensible.

Choose the right dating sites.. one's that vet the ladies ...

When you write a letter, you'll know if it is designed for mass use, she'll not answer your questions.

Be brave and organise your own trip together.. most apartments will let you pay on arrival.

..and try the food, the former Soviet Republics reflect the varied cuisines of the many states - you won't be disappointed..

Russians/ Ukrainians / Belarussians don't need visas to go to Turkey, Egypt, etc. ( they buy them at the airport on arrival) but they DO ned them to travel to EU countries/US/Canada .. bear this in mind for meetings in the summer..

US/ EU/ Canadian citizens and Russians/ Belarussians also can travel to Ukraine without visas. Kiev is beautiful.

If you want to travel regularly to Russia, get a business visa.. then you can hop on a plane and "surprise" your lady !

There's bad apples in every orchard.. but I'm pleased to say I've met the kindest people on my travels in FSU countries..

Do some research.. You've VERY unlikely to be scammed.. unless you are unrealistic about the woman.

Here endeth the reading..

Both of you can Enjoy !


This fellow wins award for most reasonable and intelligent post addressing this thread!
Some people may have personally had a bad experience with an FSU.
People do things for their own reasons, which may be as simple as love.

  


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Posted on Fri, Jun 09, 2006 04:18

Thanks For The Lovely Message Bambi, Good Luck to you too!



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Posted on Thu, Jun 08, 2006 13:02

Don't do that! Russian want only for one reason in the US States..to USE YOU!
I'm a lawyer in NYC, I know a lot of clients who was married to Russian women and can pay now alimony and child support. 99% for sure she didn't care about you, she'll use you! And after 2 yrs you'll think about me. BE WARNED!



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Posted on Thu, Jun 08, 2006 06:01

Lol! This has been Interesting Reading, I guess we all have to do our homework here, As they do too, Imagine the Lady in question is for real, You gets a ticket for her to visit, Who
s to say the guy the other side she is going to meet is for real?

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Posted on Wed, Jun 07, 2006 01:35

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Posted on Tue, Jun 06, 2006 15:05

I can't comment on Russian ladies but I would like to reply to ottawaguy35 regarding why a young lady would want to date an older man. I have always, always fancied older men - maybe not 60 but I have certainly found 45 yr old men and sometimes older attractive. Maybe it's the not having a 'daddy syndrome' I can't say why, but I like maturity - something I wouldn't find in a guy my own age. So please don't say all young ladies are scamming - because I can guarantee you, I am certainly not.



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Posted on Tue, May 23, 2006 23:38

What's wrong with you man?I have no respect what so ever to a men who is going to Russia,Ukraine etc. looking for a women.What's wrong with you people!Ouh...You just cannot imagine what you are getting yourself in to.But in the same time I just thinking may be you are deserve it.
I believe that golden rule should apply-
if you cannot attract great women here you wouldn't be able and attract her there-simple is that.
But if you are interested in sex-tourism than it's place to be )



I DONT THINK SOMEONE SHOULD REFER THE OTHER ONE LIKE THAT!...NO OFFENSE, ANABEL, BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU SHOULD STAY IN UK, LOOKING FOR LOCAL BRIT GENTLEMAN..... AND I HATE TO SAY THAT, BUT IF YOU HAVE NO RESPECT FOR OTHERS, YOU DO NOT DESERVE RESPECT FOR YOURSELF, SWEET LADY...THAT IS THE SECOND GOLDEN RULE YOUR MOM SHOULD TO TEACH YOU.

BEST WISHES FROM RUSSIA

ROX



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Posted on Mon, May 22, 2006 19:07

To Tallblonde50.
You are absolutly right!!!
To fitnfla. Sorry ,but...
What's wrong with you man?I have no respect what so ever to a men who is going to Russia,Ukraine etc. looking for a women.What's wrong with you people!Ouh...You just cannot imagine what you are getting yourself in to.But in the same time I just thinking may be you are deserve it.
I believe that golden rule should apply-
if you cannot attract great women here you wouldn't be able and attract her there-simple is that.
But if you are interested in sex-tourism than it's place to be )



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Posted on Mon, May 22, 2006 09:56

This topic makes interesting reading :)

Guys, IF you really want to have a FSU lady as a wife, do a lot of research, ( check to see how long her profile has been posted) and be realistic about age differences.

Be honest with her, and visit her country first.. you are MOST unlikely to get a VISA for her unless you can show serious correspondence and meetings.

Most women of the Former Soviet Union are very well educated, and family ( the home) are very important to them.

You can only be scammed if you aren't sensible.

Choose the right dating sites.. one's that vet the ladies ...

When you write a letter, you'll know if it is designed for mass use, she'll not answer your questions.

Be brave and organise your own trip together.. most apartments will let you pay on arrival.

..and try the food, the former Soviet Republics reflect the varied cuisines of the many states - you won't be disappointed..

Russians/ Ukrainians / Belarussians don't need visas to go to Turkey, Egypt, etc. ( they buy them at the airport on arrival) but they DO ned them to travel to EU countries/US/Canada .. bear this in mind for meetings in the summer..

US/ EU/ Canadian citizens and Russians/ Belarussians also can travel to Ukraine without visas. Kiev is beautiful.

If you want to travel regularly to Russia, get a business visa.. then you can hop on a plane and "surprise" your lady !

There's bad apples in every orchard.. but I'm pleased to say I've met the kindest people on my travels in FSU countries..

Do some research.. You've VERY unlikely to be scammed.. unless you are unrealistic about the woman.

Here endeth the reading..

Both of you can Enjoy !

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Posted on Fri, May 12, 2006 09:21

finally I have to admitt that there are some horrible scam stories.. I just got a letter from my firend.. it makes my hair curl!... Any protection against scam... if they are going to fool you around... only International investigation could help....the most disgusting thing is not because they get your money.. but because they use word LOVE to unlock you!.... that is scaring... shouldnt be like that.. best of luck for all of you!!!!.... be always careful but dont miss your chance!



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Posted on Sat, May 06, 2006 18:30

...with love.... Why do you think nationality is so important? Why do you think that all women in Russia are so great actresses that poor american men cannot understand a woman is playing a role? Same situation can be anywhere, any country! I came from Russia to marry my american man and he was the best event on my life. He adored me and never got any regrets or doubts. No wonder if a 20-25 yo girl will leave you in 3-4 yrs if you are 50-60. I think if you want to marry a 20 yo girl being 40-50-60 and believing into her deep and real love - its just crazy! So dont be silly and stop looking for 20 yo movie stars!
Look for a woman of your age, send emails, talk online, sent her pictures and ask her to send lots of pictures, DONT send money but send flowers or small gifts, plan your trip in russia, see her and never agree to meet in Moscow if she lives in Siberia, dont be lazy and go to her place, see her family, talk to her and you will be glad you did the right choice or just say bye to her...
TO FITNFLA - dont believe she will ever get visa to USA without your help! You have to make a long trip and its not easy to get visa. If she can GET USA VISA she doesnt need your money at all... She is not a real honest woman I think! If you need help feel free to sk me any time.



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Posted on Fri, May 05, 2006 16:52

I have met a great russian lady here in Winston Salem NC, she works at the library, has a graduate degree and the skin and body of a woman half of her age. She is smart, considerate, and fun.



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Posted on Fri, May 05, 2006 09:14

biflover write:
From Russia with love, NOT! try money!
80% of ads are scams, the photo is not the person you think, or if it is she is married to a drunk or drug addict who has no job who pushes or beats her into the scam, they think Americans men are stupid.Amazingly its become so bad that its hurting export trade, nobody trust Russians anymore, its so bad the authorities are cracking down and throwing these women in jail for a long time, but their men go free! If you are in communication with a Russian woman and have her address send her a small gift of flowers or chocolets, it,ll come back address unknown, cancile the order and report the bitch, its a small price to pay than getting scammed big time. If she acts and talks like a virgin she is proberbly a whore, if she tells you she is very poor and tells you she has to use a internet cafe she is lieing most poor have internet,most photos they send are proffesional photos that they buy, not of her, just some model,most are some old babushkas, if she is a skinny teen with dark rings around the eyes with a face of a drawn out 40yo like their olimpian gym team she is proberbly the real thing.
Its to bad how Russian women can screw up the lives and other opportunities of other Russian women, so sad.


Fie, Bif....That is the same I would say all men are pigs!...and all want only one thing!!!...because someone sometime fooled me... how have you became such an expert in russians?...I guess you were interested in 25 years old from Russian sites,huh?... that is a pity you cant see all those John Deers working on our lands...lolol

Yes Andy, they live and work here... in the embassy and joint ventures....Of course sometime they will go back to their country... because they love it as I guess...

End of the thread!.. that is not interesting any more and becomes to stink! Try a new one THE DANGERS AND ADVENTURES OF NET COMMUNICATIONS.... when you start to think too much about russians.. they come and catch you!



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Posted on Thu, May 04, 2006 19:31

From Russia with love, NOT! try money!
80% of ads are scams, the photo is not the person you think, or if it is she is married to a drunk or drug addict who has no job who pushes or beats her into the scam, they think Americans men are stupid.Amazingly its become so bad that its hurting export trade, nobody trust Russians anymore, its so bad the authorities are cracking down and throwing these women in jail for a long time, but their men go free! If you are in communication with a Russian woman and have her address send her a small gift of flowers or chocolets, it,ll come back address unknown, cancile the order and report the bitch, its a small price to pay than getting scammed big time. If she acts and talks like a virgin she is proberbly a whore, if she tells you she is very poor and tells you she has to use a internet cafe she is lieing most poor have internet,most photos they send are proffesional photos that they buy, not of her, just some model,most are some old babushkas, if she is a skinny teen with dark rings around the eyes with a face of a drawn out 40yo like their olimpian gym team she is proberbly the real thing.
Its to bad how Russian women can screw up the lives and other opportunities of other Russian women, so sad.



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Posted on Wed, May 03, 2006 22:57

Dana21 write:
I sick of this topic. Why you are always talking about Russian ladies? They are beautiful, smart and well educated. Many of them speak English. How many of you speak Russian or other language? Not many. It doesn't matter what country you will go, there are always girls who are looking for many. No questions about it. There is a little advise for all of you: Before to judge someone, first look at your self.
Best regards.


Thanks, Dana, for your comment..Good luck on this site!



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Posted on Tue, May 02, 2006 07:11

Girl from all over they World would love a chance to come to North America,not only Russian.I have freinds from Russian who want nothing to do with American men,and they are 27 to 30 andd belleive me they look better than most 20 years old American girls.



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