Lots of loses coming to Russia looking for an adventure and cheap sex!
Some of them did not have girlfriends in 5-10 years. They should be greatful
for the poor countries like Russia and Thailand.
They should be so lucky to have a woman at all.
From angry comments it comes that Russian women=SCAM. And the other conclusion - Americans are good, Russians are bad.
Americans are wealthy, Russians are poor.
Americans are naive and Russians are sneaky.
American woman seeks for family life - Russian woman seeks for a Green Card and money.
Let me tell you the truth. Stories are different.
Yes, it is more expensive to have a Russian wife than an American one for average guy. Costs of tickets and documents, English courses, dentists for her, new car and so on. All of men realize that on first stages of these relationships. But they spend money and bring a new wife, hoping for better life. It is not so clever to say that all those men are loosers or silly and all women are gold diggers.
If you want an easy way - no doubts, look for American wife. If you want a pain in a butt - look for a Russian wife. I dont talk here about scammers.
Wow. People like to make a lot of assumptions. All I can tell you is my experience. I married Natalya in Russia and then the terrorist attacks of 9/11 hit delaying visa processes. The problem is that in the beginning, it was a big scam. She told me later that if she came to me the guy she is currently with would try to have her or I killed if she did not divorce me and then bring him here later. That is fact.
Because we both have young children involved, the children are the only reason that more activity is not going on (i.e. to protect the children's interests).
She told me that she would not be afraid if she knew I would kill him if he came here.
That is the extreme of what I personally was/am involved in.
I still have visas open and pending in the event she is brave enough to meet me in Moscow. Last I heard from her, she is not happy and thinks nothing can be done now.
Before I married Natalya, I wanted to marry someone from Russia to be kind and share the love I had within, and so I did not have to deal with the father of my wife's child. To have that all ripped away as a scam, well you can imagine how angry I am. What Russian people do is wrong!
I also have no problem developing relations with ladies wherever I may be, so those of you that would take the short path to insulting anyone that looks outside the USA should consider there are advantages (i.e. younger age potential, old fashioned ethics, and not having to deal with their family or ex-husbands). When you bring a woman over, if things were perfect, you can be the parent the child knows as their life long parent. A key motivator for me.
Personally, due to a very bad first marriage with a feminist, I chose to have a vasectomy and not to degrade my life by spawning children to and fro with the intent of adopting or marrying someone with a child later. I'm a great guy with a heart the size of Texas, but I would still advise based on what I know to avoid Russia.
Hi, I'm from Romania. First of all please excuse my english.
Let me explain how a poor girl from an east european country will think:
Let's see a nice website with rich people, how can I get one. And sorry, what did you expect when you posted on a site that ask you your income to find the women of your dreams? You can buy a wife from russia :). She can be beautiful (To be honest, I have travelled a lot and I have to say that the most intersting women are in France, the most comercial women are in Italy and if you want to find a true beauty try Eastern Europe), she might be very good in bed, a good cooking also, but she didn't contact you for your soul. If you want to meet her go there, it's a nice place to visit, and don't belive all you see at tv. For example I was this summer in Bulgaria. I've heard at tv that they will steal your car and your money, that it is a bad country, and guess what: I've stayed at a 5 star hotel near the Black Sea, had everything, nice people, good food and all that you can dream - the price? 500 $ for 5 days. (Including food and all I've spend).
So, she wants to meet you? Make a trip, if you won't like her I can assure you that you'll find a nice lady there, but don't act like you have a lot of money. Good luck.
LolenaSmiley write: WHY do these men NEED to go that far for Love and Romance? It brings equal concern that most men that seek women ABROAD, have some type of social dysfunction: an inability to connect with a woman of their own culture. Generally, they seek women of greater youth and beauty than they could attract here. A relationship of "unequal proportion" generally has its root in a dysfunctional aspect. Did any of you watch the Independent film: where the "NYC Doorman" purchased his mailorder bride and began using her for internet porn (tied to the bed in the basement), housekeeper and personal slave confined to the home? There is NO WAY, this man could attract an intelligent equal in the USA, he was severely dysfunctional, not to mention overweight and not within the standard norm "attractive" ... Lolena
I can appreciate your perspective (especially considering the movies you've seen) but I'd like to offer a different one. I've dated quite a few women from different cultures [incidentally, what is your view of "American Culture" since, as patriotic and proud as I am, and as much as I love this country, that sounds like an oxymoron because we have little culture past "pop"], and I must say women from other countries almost invariably have a broader and deeper understanding of the world and a greater appreciation for intellectual pursuits from art and literature to politics and science than women here. Of course there are exceptions to every rule, but keep that in mind when you say most men who have an interest in dating abroad are socially dysfunctional. I've dated young women from "our culture" who are absolutely beautiful and completely within what you call "the standard norm attractive" but who have bored me to tears with talk of reality TV and designer clothing rather than anything of substance. I have found foreign women to be far more likely to be an intellectual equal than women from here.
Having met, SEVERAL men, along my life journey, that have described financially devastating experiences, with Foreign Women.
I have one very profound statement to make: WHY are AMERICAN WOMEN NOT SEEKING RUSSIAN MEN!! WHY?
That should be the Million Dollar question you may wish to consider.
Another question would be WHY do these men NEED to go that far for Love and Romance?
It brings equal concern that most men that seek women ABROAD, have some type of social dysfunction: an inability to connect with a woman of their own culture. Generally, they seek women of greater youth and beauty than they could attract here.
A relationship of "unequal proportion" generally has its root in a dysfunctional aspect.
Did any of you watch the Independent film: where the "NYC Doorman" purchased his mailorder bride and began using her for internet porn (tied to the bed in the basement), housekeeper and personal slave confined to the home?
There is NO WAY, this man could attract an intelligent equal in the USA, he was severely dysfunctional, not to mention overweight and not within the standard norm "attractive"
Not to mention his conduct would have landed him in prison.
webiron write: AVOID RUSSIAN WOMEN AND THAT WHOLE SITUATION.........
What can I say...You let your Russian wife fooled you for 5 years. Funny thing you still believe her stories about mafia, a gun to her head etc. It's a lie, she could be here long time ago if she wanted to.
I'm sorry this situation made you mad at whole world. Any country has negatives and positives, good people and bad people and you need to REMEMBER, NOBODY IS PERFECT!!!
By the way, you didn't say ex-Russian wife. Are you still married? If yes, may I ask what are you doing here?
I know from 5 years of personal experience. Huge expenses, huge lies, huge heart aches, huge scam! Nough said... not really...
My Russian wife actually wanted to come to the USA and was afraid to because some idiot over there likely has a gun to her head. She actually fell in love with me and to this day still tells me to wait for her. Even when they want to come to be with you, sometimes the situations they are in over there are sooooo complex (i.e. mafia or the equivalent) that you cannot do anything about it.
I also know from personal experience that when it gets that complex, the US government cannot help you either. The only way to extract a woman that is in trouble is to act as or hire mercanaries to act as your own body guard etc while you extract them assuming visas are ready in Moscow and pending them coming in for the interviews and medical exams. That takes a week in Moscow alone.
Don't get yourself into that mess. It is sad that people are under those levels of control, but it is not our problem and don't make the mistake like I did to try and make it your problem.
Just forget they exist. You are better off... Put the effort into some nice lady here in the USA, or in Europe at least, where they live similarly and at least speak English as a second language.
Russia is a strange and dark place regardless of what others will have you to believe. I've been there many times, speak Russian, and know enough now to avoid it for the rest of my life.
If you are smart, you'll take my $50K in advice because that is about what I spent on my own efforts, and when all was said and done, there is a beautiful girl and her daughter still stuck under the thumb of some tyrant that put her on the Internet to extract visas and money from me with false love and sex.
That is what you have to look forward to potentially (likely).
Worse if she came and took 50% of your assets too.
Don't feel secure? Not confident? Then forget this idea...something already bothers you about her.
If you still need a help please feel free to contact me and I will give you some advise how to get real Russian woman.
I just read what you wrote regarding Russian women. I just wanna let you know something. I heard so many many times when men goes there to find true love and women for lifetime, that's not what they end up with.Those women are not real, they wanna get out of poor life not because they love the man. If you wanna find true love then go for women there will come from a country on the same level as USA, where women have a great job, earn good money for them self have a nice lifestyle, those women want to find true love and a man they can love..my advise to all men.. stay away from women from Russia they are not honest and true, they stay with you as long as they have to, to get a permit citizenship in USA and after that bye bye. Find women from Europe but stay far away from East Europe..is just my advise
Hurrah for the Brits on this thread, great advice. As to those who stereotype "russian" women as being all bad, obviously that's a generalization that cannot stand. I have the great fortune of living in a gorgeous California town that is visited often by women from all over the world and there are wonderful people from every country (just like the bad apples). I get an unusually large number of solicitations from women claiming to be from the FSU or from Africa. The most obvious way to tell a fake is to ask for additional photos that don't look like they were scanned from an Eastern European model catalog (i.e.-pictures from birthdays, graduations, years ago, etc...). Also, guys in the USA, don't even think about trying to date internationally if you're not willing to travel to their country first. Maybe make it part of a larger trip so that if it turns out to have been a scam, you still have plenty of vacation left. Hold on to your kidneys and don't drink anything you didn't order yourself for a couple days, then you can put your internals at risk. There are just as many incredibly beautiful and intelligent women from other countries trying to meet men here as there are men here wanting to meet them. I agree with a few posts that women from overseas tend to be more educated and cultured (sorry US girls but it's true), but that means it's more likely they can visit the US through a university o
puskin_uk write: This topic makes interesting reading :)
Guys, IF you really want to have a FSU lady as a wife, do a lot of research, ( check to see how long her profile has been posted) and be realistic about age differences.
Be honest with her, and visit her country first.. you are MOST unlikely to get a VISA for her unless you can show serious correspondence and meetings.
Most women of the Former Soviet Union are very well educated, and family ( the home) are very important to them.
You can only be scammed if you aren't sensible.
Choose the right dating sites.. one's that vet the ladies ...
When you write a letter, you'll know if it is designed for mass use, she'll not answer your questions.
Be brave and organise your own trip together.. most apartments will let you pay on arrival.
..and try the food, the former Soviet Republics reflect the varied cuisines of the many states - you won't be disappointed..
Russians/ Ukrainians / Belarussians don't need visas to go to Turkey, Egypt, etc. ( they buy them at the airport on arrival) but they DO ned them to travel to EU countries/US/Canada .. bear this in mind for meetings in the summer..
US/ EU/ Canadian citizens and Russians/ Belarussians also can travel to Ukraine without visas. Kiev is beautiful.
If you want to travel regularly to Russia, get a business visa.. then you can hop on a plane and "surprise" your lady !
There's bad apples in every orchard.. but I'm pleased to say I've met the kindest people on my travels in FSU countries..
Do some research.. You've VERY unlikely to be scammed.. unless you are unrealistic about the woman.
Here endeth the reading..
Both of you can Enjoy !
This fellow wins award for most reasonable and intelligent post addressing this thread!
Some people may have personally had a bad experience with an FSU.
People do things for their own reasons, which may be as simple as love.
Don't do that! Russian want only for one reason in the US States..to USE YOU!
I'm a lawyer in NYC, I know a lot of clients who was married to Russian women and can pay now alimony and child support. 99% for sure she didn't care about you, she'll use you! And after 2 yrs you'll think about me. BE WARNED!