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Posted on Tue, Apr 04, 2006 12:07

how does one protect themselves from a scam. i hav a lady from russia who wants to come visit me. she wants me to pay for here vis and travel ticket. how do i know its for real and wont get scammed. what can i do to protect myself.



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Posted on Mon, Feb 10, 2014 04:55

Aha, another "millioner" talking...



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Posted on Mon, Feb 10, 2014 04:50

 I think you are pretender ( even not a great one) you have no money to pay a membership and worrying about your (hypothetical) millions ?????? 3-ha-ha( 2 times)



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Posted on Mon, Feb 10, 2014 04:34

If she is  honest working women, she probably nave not this amount of money in Russia (espesially, if she a single mom)



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Posted on Mon, Feb 10, 2014 04:32

What the problem, buy ticket for her passport's name and  send some money for visa.. Big deal..

 



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Posted on Sat, Feb 01, 2014 12:22

Hello dear ! I can help you , what to do ..... I am Russian lady and have same situation before , my man invite me to live with him to Holland . When she really love you , she can come to you and  you can pay for ticket , when she already with you , or you go to Russia and come back tygether !  Hugs -- Julia 



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Posted on Sat, Jan 18, 2014 22:24

This seems like a common scam that is occurring now days. I would be very suspicious. 



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Posted on Fri, Jan 03, 2014 21:49

It's amazing how many people are ready to give advice on the subject without having the slightest idea about the Russian culture, mentality, psychology, history, or outlook on life. Traveling to 78 countries or having met a few Russian women in Hollywood  doesn't make you an expert on intercultural marriages.

Let me dispel some of the common misconceptions about Russia, including the current state of economy,  and preferences of Russian women. 

1. Moscow is currently one of the wealthiest cities in the world where the concept of luxury and style is an essential component of an every day life of a Russian woman. Hence her desire to find a wealthy man to keep up or compete with her girl- friends. ( If everyone has a mink coat in Russia, why can't I have one too?) Russian society, just like American society, has certain expectations, and everyone is doing their best to meet them. 

2. From a psychological standpoint, there is another reason for their quest for a rich man: for a majority of Russian women wealth is associated with POWER and (what is even more important!) SEX APPEAL, so having a rich husband (preferably the one who made his fortune himself without inheriting it from his mommy and daddy) equals having a powerful and sexy partner.

2. From an economical standpoint, there are more millionaires and billlionaires in Russia than in any other country, so it's foolish to think that most Russians girls are dying to marry an American millionaire. Besides, most Russian millionaires/billionaires are more generous with gifts and tokens of affection than their American counterparts. (Take,for example, Vlad Doronin and Naomi ). 

3. Saying or implying  that all Russian women are scammers or gold diggers is just like saying that all American men are cheap. Every culture has its good and bad, so there is no need to generalize.

4. Yes, most Russian women don't take crap from anyone, and I hate to rain on your parade, but making them sign a prenuptial would equal giving them crap. Most of them will despise you after that. Do you want to know why? First of all, if you don't trust her with your finances, how can you trust her with her life? Every relationship is based on trust. If there is no trust, how are you going to sleep in the same bed with her??? Secondly, if you are thinking about protecting yourself, it shows how insecure you are and INSECURITY in the eyes of a Russian woman means WEAKNESS. And if you are weak, your money means nothing, and she will automatically loose respect for you. 

5. Again, I am not generalizing, but some American men looking to conquer the heart of a Russian  woman ( millionaires or not) need to learn one thing, perhaps the most important thing in this world - how to grow some balls. That's an asset that every Russian woman admires!

I'll leave it at that.:-)



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Posted on Fri, Dec 27, 2013 17:46

NEVER send money! The best way for you to figure out of you are dealing with a scammer is to fly to Russia and meet them life through an agency or jsut go the museums, bars and walk around and speak to them. I have friends who have done the Online Bride thing and it nearly cost him his fortune. It is a very risky business dealing with Russian import brides. Russian woman (those who come here) are often stone cold and tough and will destroy a guy for money after having been married for a few years. I've seen that a lot.

The way my friends figured it out that their gorgous bride was planning to scam their hubbies was by wiring the home phones. Have an iron clad but fair prenuptial and NEVER tell them (or anyone) how much money or business you have and NEVER give them control (or anyone for that matter) over your accounts. Most marriages end up in divorce anyway so this rule applies to all bleeding heart romantics that end up broke or drained after a divorce war. It is usually the ruthless lawyers you end up fighting, not the pretty woman you married. I've helped a few friends with their divorce and it took a lot of effort to subdue the lawers and these gold diggers. Let me leave it at that. "Own nothing (on paper) but Control everything" is the trick to longterm wealth.



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Posted on Fri, Dec 27, 2013 17:38

Most people don't know Russian men! When American men speak softly and try relationship therapy a Russian bloke will beat the living shit out of his wife or gf...that is why these Russian beauties come to Europe and the US. Also, there are not that many wealthy Russians compared to the enormous pool of millionars in the US. Men who are educated, usually reasonable and not about to strike a woman when she looks at the waiter just a few secongs too long to his taste.

I meet a LOT of Russian women in Hollywood (acctresses wannabe's) and they ALL tell me how rude, aggressive and absurd Russian men treat them. Russian men, are often drunks who out-drink the Irish and that is near impossible to do. Then, I've seen it when I was in Russia. Women there clammored around me just to get the hell out of there. And then, of course, I am very tall (six seven) which most Russian men are not. Woman appear to love well built tall men.

Then, while not all Rusian woman are gorgeous, far from it, those who are beat every beauty standard known in the US. Not many woman in the US are about six feet tall, have real pear shaped breasts, perfect skin, an angelic face and charm. Most woman in the US, especially the cuter ones, are fake breasted, bottle blonds who manipulate men without also knowing the tricks to keep him happy. I've dated a few Russian woman and I can tell you how incredible their sex drive was compared to most other women. When a Russian beauty goes for round four her American counter part is whining about pain and being tired...give me a break! Russian woman are also often smart and very driven and don't take crap from anyone. Of course, I am generalizing since there are millions of women in Russia who are sweet, soft, compliant and beautiful...but for some reason I don't get to meet them in Hollywood...lol

 

 



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Posted on Tue, Dec 03, 2013 05:47

Please don't do it, I had a friend once that did this, he sent her $5000.00 he turned up to the airport and waited and waited and she never showed, she had been pretending for months! meet half way or go to her ;)



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Posted on Tue, Dec 03, 2013 03:06

Quoting fitnfla:

how does one protect themselves from a scam. i hav a lady from russia who wants to come visit me. she wants me to pay for here vis and travel ticket. how do i know its for real and wont get scammed. what can i do to protect myself.

I just came across this topic and feel sorry - first sorry for Russian ladies..who have this image ( yes, there are scammers, but as someone said in the post above - scammers are in every country) 

I know Russian ladies who are sincerely looking for love and are ready to fly overseas and live in another foreign country with the man, to raise family and children and change their lifes. It is not an easy thing to do, you know - changing countries.. And believe me, if they do , they do because they have feelings, not for money.

Someone wrote here : Moscow has more money nowadays than US. And it is very true: and people in Moscow do not hesitate to spend money, as consumption here is very high and people live by present moment, not saving for the future..

 

And I am sorry for men, who have prejudices and stereotypes in their minds, and not able to distinguish between the lady who is love with him, and a serial scammer... It should be so obvious!!

When you say "she wants to visit me".. "She wants me to pay..."

What do YOU WANT? You say nothing of your own wishes - do you want her to come or not?

Listen to your wishes, open your eyes, call this lady and listen to her voice; call her on Skype and see if her eyes are sparkling as she talks to you - that is how you can see if she wants YOU.

 

At your place, I would ask a question " How do I know this lady really LOVES ME? and WANTS ME?"

Thas is the first question to ask.. not the one "how to protect myself"

 

PLease men be THE MEN ... if you want a woman, and real woman in your life, do not think of "protection" first thing..

 



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Posted on Wed, Nov 13, 2013 05:40

Do not send money. Most of what was said above is true. 



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Posted on Tue, Nov 12, 2013 18:24

Not sure that there are much more scammers among Russian women than among anyone else. However, if you have some prejedice, lack trust, just forget about Russian women and look for someone else.

f you want to see a Russian lady coming to your place, you will have to bear her travel expences (it shows what a man you are, if you are really interested in the woman, and this is how Russian women (at least of my generation) have been brought up).

If you do not want/cannot afford it, go to Russia or meet somewhere in between (take her on a short break to Paris, Rome, London, whereever).

However, before doing anything, you need to speak (on phone, skype) with her, to try to find out who she is and what she really wants (is it you or the US she is interested in), and understand if you have any feeling for her and what it is.

Don't be scared, be active and you'll avoid scammers. 

Someone said here that all Russians have the same stories. This is not the case. What is the point in generalising? If someone has a bad experience all the time, it only means that he/she makes the wrong choices, hence, the issues are in him/her, not in "all Russians" or whoever.

Best wishes to everyone!

Natalie 



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Posted on Sat, Nov 09, 2013 15:15

Please you need to be out of your mind if you do that!!!!!!!!!!!!! you gotta be kidding.............you will be just her TOOL!!!!!!!!! walk away from it !!!! and save you the $$$$ and the embarrasment as well as the grief!!! why go overseas when here in the USA you have stunning ladies!!!

Dont be a fool!!!!!!!!!!!



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Posted on Sat, Nov 09, 2013 15:01

You should worry. She just want the access to America. she has all her friends already here. Don't be the   Next idiot



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Posted on Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:10

You can go see her somewhere on neutral territory. That's what I've done 13 years ago - in Amsterdam. Eveyrhing worked fine! Don't worry. She should worry about protecting herself, not you.



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Posted on Sun, Oct 20, 2013 17:34

Don't do it!!!! Men are so easily deceived because of someone's youth, beauty, and sex appeal.



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Posted on Mon, Aug 12, 2013 14:28

I like this guy moving ahead more and more. The more I read him , the more I agree with what he says. His experiences have been my experiences



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Posted on Tue, Jul 16, 2013 02:36

Oh, how many mean people here. Did you know that Moscow takes the first place by numbers of billionaires in the World? So who wants a man just for the money may well settle in Russia. No need to think in stereotypes, of course, anything can happen, but not just when it comes to Russian. Many women used to the fact men have to pay for them, and perhaps this can be found at the beginning of the communication. And what about the real feelings of man who discusses such matters on forums? Is it normal now?))



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