astrology is hogwash Lifestyle

  • View author's info posted on Aug 12, 2005 16:33


    Bobcat...I take that as a great compliment coming from a man like you.

    Wilfred...believe me if you were in cornwall I would travel down just for that promised foot rub! lol

    Minnie...I got soooo much more from my grandmother than I could ever have given her! She was such a strong women!

    I really just told my story because every one has such trust in modern medicine that they never even think of questioning it. Remember Thalidamide?? A tablet to combat morning sickness in pregnant women...it effected future generations!!!!!!

    Dont get me wrong...I too go to the doctor but I always question what he/she is prescribing for me and if there is any alternative! It is YOUR body and it is up to you how you want it to be treated. It doesnt hurt to ask!!
  • View author's info posted on Aug 11, 2005 22:21



    scorpio_ice write:
    Maayan you make a good arguement and lot of sense!

    Now can I be the first for the foot rub??


    Scorpio, even if I still lived in Cornwall you'd be pretty far away. While I'd be happy to massage your feet, I wasn't plannng on being in your neighborhood any time soon. As an alternative, many bookstores, local or online, should have books on acupressure, reflexology or shiatsu. You can do your own feet if you cannot find a partner, but for best results, always try to use the opposite hand to the foot you are working on.

    To relieve constipation (the easiest one to describe), lightly grasp the achilles tendon about 2-3 inches above the heel. Squeezing gently but firmly, pull down until you reach the foot. Do this on both feet, but I suggest no more than 3 times on each. Now drink a glass of lukewarm water and don't plan on any long walks. Three times is my maximum, but your results and requirements may vary.

    In extreme cases, follow the achilles tendon up, squeezing the calf muscle all the way to the knee.

    I suppose some will find this in bad taste, but it works. And if anyone doubts that there are nerve endings in the feet from every other part of the body, let them rub a freshly cut onion on the bottom of their feet and see how long it takes for their breath to smell like onions (without having actually eaten any).

    WARNING: DO NOT MASSAGE THE ARCH OF THE FOOT UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. YOU CAN TRIGGER THE RELEASE OF INSULIN, WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS DESIREABLE. Stick to the fleshy areas and massage any tender spots until the tenderness goes away. Be well,

    Bill / Wilfred06
  • View author's info posted on Aug 11, 2005 19:21


    Maayan you make a good arguement and lot of sense!

    Now can I be the first for the foot rub??
  • View author's info posted on Aug 11, 2005 17:41


    I think it was Isaac Isamov who said
    "I don't say that the scientists are always correct, but the non-scientists are almost never correct."

    I would say that even a stopped clock is right twice a day. But I wouldn't depend on it to tell the time.
  • View author's info posted on Aug 11, 2005 17:40


    I personally dont take tablets in any form, I believe your own body can heal most things wrong with you and if you take tablets it just masks the problem and the body cant heal what it cant recognise! I am rarely ill...if I feel ill I sleep it off. Now thats just me and I dont push it onto any one else except for one time when my grandmother was dying so to allow her to die with dignity in her own home I looked after her, she was 83 and no one could persuade her to eat. On her table there were at least seven bottles of tablets and a list of how many and when the tablets had to be taken. When I asked gran what all the tablets were for she couldnt remember,(nor could anyone else I asked) she just knew she swallowed 9-11 tablets each time.

    As far as I could understand the only thing that could kill her was her heart or lack of food!! So I put all the tablets away and just gave her the prescribed dose for her heart condition, (obviously if gout or pain troubled her then resume those again)but for now Im sure she couldnt eat because she was full of tablets!!! I would cook food with the yummy smells like bacon and fresh bread to encourage her to eat! After about 2 months my gran was up and about with no pain or illness!! So what WERE all those tablets for?? After sitting down with her doctor (AND taking the lecture for stopping her tablets) I found out that...
    1.she had pain in her little finger once and was told it was gout so was given repeat perscriptions...again and again!

    2. the gout tablets made her sick so another tablet was to combat that..repeat perscriptions again!!!!!

    3. strong painkillers

    4. tablets for sickness and diariah (however you spell that!) probably caused by other tablets.

    ...cant remember what the other tablets were for but the point is..my gran was seen by a..(and I quote robotic) regular trained physician!!!

    She lived for another 10 yrs tablet free (apart from the heart tablets)only taking natural ingredients for illness's such as colds, tummy upsets etc.

    Now I know that isnt any world breaking news but it works for me and it gave my gran 10 quality years of life she wouldnt have had.
  • View author's info posted on Aug 11, 2005 12:08



    robotic123_74 write:
    Astrology and the metaphysical is all hogwash and nonsense. So is chiropractic "medicine" along with acupuncture and herb treatments.These are just a few of the dumb,ignorant alternative treatments people go for.

    I guess if you are desparate and you have tried everything else it doesn't hurt to try them. They don't hurt you as far as I know, the difficulty is they don't do any good.

    Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra as well as a p*enis pump work for some men but finely ground up rhinoceras horn doesn't do any good as far as I know, it doesn't make you horney, though I personally haven't tried it.


    My brother is a chiropractor. A teenage girl was brought to him by her mother. She was having terrible headaches. THREE separate MDs had told her it was just stress or her imagination. He referred her to a neurologist he knew. Within a week she had had a tumor the size of a lemon removed from her brain. So much for mainstream medicine.

    The Chinese were successfully treating a variety of ailments with acupuncture and acupressure when Western "medicine" didn't even know about anesthetics. I can relieve sinus congestion, constipation and several other ailments just by massaging the right places on your feet. Relief is nearly instantaneous, while over the counter remedies can take hours and frequently have undesirable side effects.

    There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. (Shakespeare)

    Be well.

    W
  • View author's info posted on Aug 11, 2005 10:15



    bobcatmoon write:
    In response to robotics' comments...Chiropractical procedures, herbal treatments are moving fast as to why are so many pharmaceutical companies jumping on it!. Acupuncture is even accepted by some insurance companies. You are enitled to your opinion about astrology and the metaphysical realm but I suggest you research topics before dismissing everything about them.

    I love Acupuncture dahlins
  • View author's info posted on Aug 11, 2005 10:15


    Being Chinese I grew up with traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) all my life and that has kept me fit and I have never had any major illness to this day . TCM has less side effects because their origins are primarily herbal and have been tried and tested some 2000 years ago starting with Emperor Huang Wu Ti, the first emperor of china who was known to observe the influence of seasons and summoned the wisest men in the kingdom to record through observation and trial and error how seasonal plants and herbs could be of great medicinal value..today many western pharmeceutical companies are producing some of these herbal remedies in pill form..e.g. ginseng, dong quai (the natural HRT for women which helps prevent PMS and menopausal effectson the female body.)
    TCM and acupuncture is widely used in China and their successes are rarely recorded for Western research mainly because of the lack of resources and the Chinese tend to base their cures on observation and word of mouth. Oral history and secret formulae are kept in the families for centuries and if you research in depth how TCM has developed thru the ages, it is based on modern medical anthropological methods and one should not dismiss it so quickly. I am glad that UK's national health service now accomodates alternative cures and herbal medicine within their budget.
  • View author's info posted on Aug 10, 2005 14:04


    I once went to a chiropracter on the advice of a dentist to help me get rid of some jaw pain.

    I went into his office and to a little room, it was actually kind of shabby. He came in and I lay down. He sat at my head, then he gave my head a snap I guess to snap my spine like a whip.

    I sat up and said there would be no more of that. I told him that sort of thing could cause trouble, not cure it.

    He got angry and told me that it could. He said it was like cracking your knuckles. I don't think cracking your knuckles can cure anything. It might relieve some stress if the person has the habit of cracking his knuckles, but it is better to stop the habit.

    You can't cure diseases by spinal adjustments. If your spine needs an adjustment go to a bone doctor who can do the proper procedures.

    Out in his waiting room there were people who I considered had psychological problems and one woman was kind of making a scene.

    I decided that his "patients" had to believe in him and his practice to even go to him or any other chiropracter.

    I have had no experience with acupuncture or herbal treatment but from what I read about them they are not convincing at all. I don't think they do any good at all.

    Blood and lymph and nerve currents flow through our bodies but there is no energy flow that can be started or stopped or diverted in any manner by acupuncture. You can't cure a headache with a pin in your toe unless it might be a needle full of painkiller.

    Herbal treatments are all hogwash. I agree that pharmaceutical companies do research on some natural drugs and sometimes they find something that will work but folk herbal treatments are hogwash. The only good thing is they probably may not do any harm but they might even do some harm at that by the person ommiting the proper treatment.

    If you need medical treatment go to a regular trained physician. Even they don't know all the answers, they are not gods, even though some of them seem to think so.

    Modern medicine including modern dentistry is so good it is almost miraculous, but it is still not a miracle. It is just good science.
  • View author's info posted on Aug 10, 2005 10:27


    To quote a new favourite saying of mine, "Opinions are like a**holes, everyone's got one". It's so true!

    What gets me is how many people have opinions on subjects they have absolutely no exposure or experience with, but are adamant nevertheless. I am always willing to listen to someone with more experience than I, but tune out those who are just expounding their "opinions".

    Many pharmaceutical drugs are based on natural plant materials, and I've personally tried acupuncture and the results have been quite astounding and successful. I have been going for shiatsu every week for years, and know my body feels better than it ever has. I went to a chiro for 12 years every 2 weeks, and it never improved, and I was still in pain within one week. I no longer have chronic back pain since the shiatsu, in fact it makes your body heal itself and be markedly stronger. I will always search for alternative methods before resorting to surgery or man-made medication.

    A major hospital in Vancouver has been using a combination of alternative treatments along with surgery, and the recovery times and blood loss have been significantly reduced. East meets West is a good thing.

    Hey, but that's just my opinion.
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