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Posted on Thu, Mar 16, 2006 23:38

OK scroogey-pants, I'm still lookin for the post where you tell us you're not really Santa Claus.



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Posted on Tue, Nov 15, 2005 10:17

robotic123_74 write:
Astrology and the metaphysical is all hogwash and nonsense. So is chiropractic "medicine" along with acupuncture and herb treatments.These are just a few of the dumb,ignorant alternative treatments people go for.

I guess if you are desparate and you have tried everything else it doesn't hurt to try them. They don't hurt you as far as I know, the difficulty is they don't do any good and you may need some medical attention from a good practicing medical doctor who can properly diagnose you and if you don't get that attention your condition may get worse and probably will.

Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra as well as a p*enis pump work for some men but finely ground up rhinoceras horn doesn't do any good as far as I know, it doesn't make you horney, though I personally haven't tried it.



Maybe you should try it... When was the last time you saw a really sick hog???

I do agree somewhat on the astrology/metaphysical though... Seems to me to be a complex form for self hypnosis full of self fulfilling prophecies.

But on the acupuncture/herbalism, I think perhaps humans have forgotten most of what was learned when we were close to the earth... The Asian cultures retain more than most.



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Posted on Sat, Nov 05, 2005 06:55

Buddy, you are most niave!
And must add pretty stupid. When you have six degrees and have the education to make such a statement about holistic medicine then you have the right to bash!!! Where the hell do you think Modern Medicine came from. p.s. The medical community is ther 3rd leading cause of death in this country! Try this on for size.You want your bandaide effect. Go ahead! You need to spend a lot of time researching. Seeing such arrogance ignorance is so annoying. YOU KNOW NOTHING!!!!!!!!!



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Posted on Fri, Nov 04, 2005 12:39

bluepony -
I find you most intelligent! Very impressive! What a place the world would be if all were as educated or enlightened as you. Delighted to see there are any such as you left in the world.



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Posted on Fri, Nov 04, 2005 12:32

Acupuncture- I remember a study done by I think Stanford University that actually proved that it was the belief in its ability to work and not the actual needles that worked- because they did half the group with correct positioning, and half with random positioning. 20% of each group was told by the tester that they didn't believe it worked anyway. None of the ones told that had any reaction at all. But of the rest- there was better response to those placed randomly by far then those placed properly. Go figure.

BUT

As for acupressure- very real! And so is certain types of energy healing- only when done by someone who is born with the gift- I do not believe it is something one can learn without the gift of insight. How can you heal what you cannot see? Or otherwise detect? This ability shows up in children at around age 7 and if noticed can be fine tuned. Learning to use it to help people is hard because there are no schools for it. Half the world doesn't believe in it. The other half feels threatened by it. Telling people only alienates you. People fear what they don't understand. But they don't have to believe in it to be healed by it. You just feel better and never even know why.

I know- shields up for attack!!
Be nice!
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Posted on Wed, Sep 21, 2005 16:44


bluepony write:
well well... curious subject here...

as i'v always seen it, if u take the leap of faith to believe that 1 + 1 = 2... then, by extension, u must believe in astrology... both mathematics and philosophy satisfy the human urge to understand and to control feelings of anxiousness when it comes to the true state of existence... unaldultered CHAOS...

whether u believe in mathematics or philosphy to determine, like our ancestors, when flood and drought, heat and cold were due, so that migrations might take place, and crops might be planted... it would be imperative to know that these activities could be regulated with reference to the stars... the fact that we still do this today has been obscured by our use of watches and calendars to tell the time and the date, but all human life is basically regulated by the movement of the Sun and the Moon, and the rotation of the Earth... the recognition of this was a central part of the process of the development of early civilisation...

which brings me to my point: no matter what way seems to work best for u to determine the security of your survival, whether it be mathematical formulas, or responding to questions and a language which astrology offers u to potentially understand yourself and the world around u... the answers r to be found in the process, or in the questions, if u will... not in the established "truths"... if this were the case, we wouldn't be here blabbing to each other through a bloody computer screen.... ;)



oooohh!! Very interesting! Well put Bluepony!

  


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Posted on Tue, Sep 20, 2005 17:05

LOL... like your style mr. seawolf... the fact that western science and medicine is ruled by a "process of elimination" of symptoms to determine "the cause", just goes to show that there is not only a disdain for practices in history which could, through the tried and true, be useful for healing... but also some belief in the fallacy that, in "modern times", we have more valuable information based on statistics and/or empirical evidence, is the point that is the "hogwash".... yes, outdated thinking...
we underestimate the invasiveness of surgeries, and medications... quick-fixes and solutions for a society that has blind faith in "modernity".... what the hell is all the fuss about with astrology???



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Posted on Mon, Sep 12, 2005 20:45

Astrology and chiropractic are NOT wacko stuff! I have been to the man they call the best in the midwest for several years! And when I first started to go to him for adjustments, he would do such a great job, that I could actually get up and start walking around WITHOUT MY LOWER LUMBAR area of my back being out of place any longer! He has a great reputation and services patients from around the country! He can adjust an area in the upper back of the spinal column that deals with the so-called ESTABLISHMENT ("DISEASE") CALLED: ACID REFLUX...(what a freakin' joke that is!!!)...and once that is corrected, the person doesn't have that happen again...unless that particular vertebra comes out again! And those surgery doctors who love to give people back surgeries for something called a RUPTURED DISK...!!! That is disgusting! A good chiro (that uses the Gonstead Method--a quick adjustment to set the disk) can set that disk back into place and he/she can do this WITHOUT SURGERY! And that so-called ruptured disk is nothing more than a disk that has: SLIPPED OUT OF PLACE! But the medical establishment loves to make people think it's something that only surgery can cure! So unless you've gone to one of the BEST...don't sit on your: backwoods, 18th century, narrow-minded, hard-@#$, with a slobbering, redeck attitude about something you obviously know nothing about! You are the typical SHEEP OF SOCIETY! in that you enjoy being trained by the establishment gods, who own and control damn near everything that we come into contact with! And as for astrology, one must check with a very renown type of person that does go into all aspects of ones makeup. If this involes the personal info, then, it can help to a certain degree...but the free will does come into play with this subject! It is not as cut and dried as with chiro adjustments! I've had them for years! They are very helpful and do an excellent job of helping a portion of the body to begin to function again! Without the good ones, people would be stuck being put into traction by some money grabbing doctor, that only cares about his bank account! No one can discuss this subject with me and make a stupid statement that you made...as I've been to at least 3 of the best that I've ever come across...and they have corrected various problems for me--WITHOUT SURGERY!!!! That's the secret to their success...these chiros I've been to CAN take care of business and keep a person safe from being put under the knife! You sound like a real flake, since it appears that you are NOT speaking with any knowledge about this subject! I, on the hand, am! Your typical thinking process went out with the advent of the age of Aquarius! You should go to a good chiro, that does the job right, then, see the difference! Get it? Got it? Good! Geez! Another establishment robot deprogrammed!!!!



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Posted on Fri, Sep 09, 2005 22:15

well well... curious subject here...

as i'v always seen it, if u take the leap of faith to believe that 1 + 1 = 2... then, by extension, u must believe in astrology... both mathematics and philosophy satisfy the human urge to understand and to control feelings of anxiousness when it comes to the true state of existence... unaldultered CHAOS...

whether u believe in mathematics or philosphy to determine, like our ancestors, when flood and drought, heat and cold were due, so that migrations might take place, and crops might be planted... it would be imperative to know that these activities could be regulated with reference to the stars... the fact that we still do this today has been obscured by our use of watches and calendars to tell the time and the date, but all human life is basically regulated by the movement of the Sun and the Moon, and the rotation of the Earth... the recognition of this was a central part of the process of the development of early civilisation...

which brings me to my point: no matter what way seems to work best for u to determine the security of your survival, whether it be mathematical formulas, or responding to questions and a language which astrology offers u to potentially understand yourself and the world around u... the answers r to be found in the process, or in the questions, if u will... not in the established "truths"... if this were the case, we wouldn't be here blabbing to each other through a bloody computer screen.... ;)



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Posted on Tue, Sep 06, 2005 13:01

Ginga..I'm an Aries with a virgo rising what are you ?



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Posted on Tue, Sep 06, 2005 12:12

Wilfred...I enjoy readiing your posts..I am an Aries with a Virgo rising...I enjoy astrology for the study of it but do not lead my life by everything it says...I do it just for enjoyment and the awe I find in observing the transits and seeing how accurate it is...I study the esoteric branch as I believe in the blueprint of our Natal Charts that cast the lessons we are meant to learn from ..Isabel Hickey's "Astrolgy: A Cosmic Science" ...is one of my favorites...and for really deep metaphysical reading JJ Hurtak's "The Book Of Knowledge: The Keys of Enoch " has to be a piece that ties all my readings of over 20 years together in the metaphysical realms...nice to hear from an evolved Sagitarrius...



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Posted on Tue, Sep 06, 2005 12:02

Robotic,,, you are correct ...in that the precise planetary positions and houses can not be accurately defined due to shifts. There are mathematical adjustments used by configuring planetary positions through the Jet Propulsion laboratory and calculated for adjustments in the ephemerises that track planetary placements. What is called a Delta T factor is used to correct the adjustment regarding the time differences from the Julian calender....And Mr. Robotic..I am willing to challenge you in a sense if you are interested as I will prove to you there are things that you are not aware of in this universe. I have been taught for the last 10 years + by a very dear friend who is a natural third generation clairvoyant/astrologer. She has cast the chart for the Queen of England with a very wonderful thank you letter. She has been on Jerry Springer before he turned to emotional gladiating. She has been on Television in Florida as requested by the networks each year for many years to give yearly predictions. I have been witness to her talents which are simply out of the bounds of science that I have been trained in. She had contacted friends and relatives who had passed with no way in the world being able to know the personal experiences that were shared and conveyed to me.
I had a friend in high school that was shot and killed. I sang a song to her known only to me and her... period!....this clairvoyant hummed the music to me in a reading and said the name of the song (the song was "Rock me Gently") too...telling me the girl said thank you and will greet me when I pass...explain that!!!! from 1976! Then when I got in my car and was leaving the song she would sing to me suddenly played on the radio.."The Morning After" by Maureen McGovern...somethings are synchronistic..read Carl Jung ...as for the challenge...at first I will print out your picture and hand it to her and will relay what she vibes...you may cal her if you wish but I expect your honest reply with what she shares with you ...maybe then you may take a back step from things you clearly have little knowledge of or understanding about...



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Posted on Tue, Sep 06, 2005 09:41

I think it was the Julian calendar that got the years back on track because Easter was falling on the wrong days, the Sun was crossing the equater earlier or later or something and so are the "houses" of astrology. I think they are shifted completely out of position from which it all beagn, so how can they be correct? It is all nonsense.



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Posted on Mon, Sep 05, 2005 20:27


ginga write:
Hey BObcatmoon,
speaking of astrology, what zodiac sign are you? I am a curious Sagitarrius with a deep appreciation for astrology.


I'm probably way off, but my first guess (for Bobcat) is Libra, followed by Aquarius. Or mayhaps Sagittarius? So sayeth another Sagittarian who occasionally dabbles....



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Posted on Sun, Sep 04, 2005 10:40

Hey BObcatmoon,
speaking of astrology, what zodiac sign are you? I am a curious Sagitarrius with a deep appreciation for astrology.



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Posted on Thu, Sep 01, 2005 07:43

Two days ago I was touring Hampton Court built in 1080 A.D. Inside the court high up on a tower was an amazing, giant gold clock. It continues to work accurately today! This clock did not just tell the time of day! On this clock it had the sun, the moon and earth rotating, which helped determine the seasons, and the changing nightly stages of the moon (no moon to full moon). Also on this clock they showed all of the Astrological signs. Considering the incredible knowledge and technology it would take to build a clock that told time, seasons, stages of moon, etc. so accurately, from back in 1089 A.D. An era I would have thought beyond their scope of comprehension. I can only believe that if in 1089 A.D. they also considered astrology, that there must be something to it. This is not something someone just dreamed up one day. It has come from a myriad of observations drawing conclusions.



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Posted on Tue, Aug 30, 2005 06:01


fun4two write:
ASTROLOGICAL SIGNS
*what most people believe the term 'astrology' equates to*

Every SIGN is "built" of three things: an element, a quality, and a polarity.

The polarities: Masculine and Feminine

The qualities: Cardinal, Fixed and Mutable

The Elements: Fire, Earth, Air and Water

IN REALITY:

The Building Blocks of Astrology:

Planets
Signs
Astrological Houses
Aspects and Transits

Now, dear sir ... if you please ... feed your eager students what they desire to devour ...

*********************

And, if/when you get to the advanced study of Goddesses ... send me a telepathic message ...

Conjuring lovely imagery ... casting spellbinding thoughts ... *wink*

~Smiles

I love the Goddesses :)



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Posted on Sat, Aug 27, 2005 23:37

What is MRSA bug? A resistant staf???

I know of a all natural product (a formulation of several things) that will kill bacteria, viruses, and mold/fungi. It is not approved for use but it works, is cheap, and not toxic. I use it for almost everything you can imagine-mouthwash,dedorant, cuts and scrapes, air condition ducts, plants,food, you name it..It kills surface staf, but not internal- doesn't enter the bloodstream.

bc



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Posted on Thu, Aug 25, 2005 23:18

Hm. This isn't exactly a thread about astrology, oh well!

Recent SCIENTIFIC evidence appearing in reputable medical journals:

Chiropractic has been proven to provide short-term pain relief.

Acupuncture has been shown to be effective in treating pain due to arthritis.

GARLIC is a folk medicine, and every doctor in the world knows it works as an antibiotic; many doctors prescribe it.

ASPRIN comes from the willow tree, I believe. It's an "herbal remedy" that is MUCH, MUCH CHEAPER than chiropractic.

ECHINACEA . . . sorry, doesn't work.

As for therapies such as reiki . . . it's my personal opinion that a practitioner is born with this power, and it can't be "granted" or "transferred" the way it's supposedly done today with reiki "training." All those levels and certifications mean nothing . . . a person either has the juice or s/he doesn't.



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Posted on Wed, Aug 24, 2005 23:49

I remember after starting the thread Astrology and the Metaphysical there are many who share similiar experiences. My first reply I believe was that "astrology is hogwash"....I am glad to see that so many see through the looking glass and receive relief from belief in the physical and spiritual...