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Posted on Mon, Jul 18, 2005 21:55

I'm single, because I was born single, I'm just going back to my natural state.....

Besides, I admit it, I am shallow and superficial and I won't settle for less than the perfect..............drummer. ROTFLMAO (I think I'm obsessed! or possessed! no I'd like to be possessed!) HAHAHAHAHA! ~evil/crazy laugh~



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Posted on Mon, Jul 18, 2005 15:16


fun4two write:
My My My ... the ghost of Steve is now posting ... that's interesting!

Steve~darling ...

Nice to see your ghost posting ... feeling better after the crash?

Hey, I have an idea ... we're all meeting in Columbus on the 30th ... you should bring Kisses and Vika ... and Garrett ... and we'll even invite Lion personally ... it could be so much fun!!

Missed you Babe ... welcome back!!

~Smiles



OMG..you are too funny,,,you are on top of things..are you dear? I didnt see your name ,,so I was supprised you were already here,,I was also going to post about HIS posting..I notice he posted after me..and I hardly if ever post on this thread,, he misses me..lol



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Posted on Mon, Jul 18, 2005 12:55

Oh,,,I want to add this too,, the age bracket you mentioned...well thats because by that time in a womans life,,she has reached a stage where she no longer has to depend on another income,,or even a roomate,,to make her way.
women of this age are a lot more independant,,they are in a place where they can finally say to theirselves,,"ya know, I have finally made it to a time in my life..I dont have to take any more of anyone..i just want to be happy"
If that means waiting for the right guy then so be it,
I am going to be patient this time..I want my best friend, I want to find my Man, a guy who I want to tell everything to..all of my darkest secrets, I want to share those rainy days, thunderstorms under the covers,, those moonlit beaches,, long drives going nowhere, and ending up anywhere, and still enjoying that same company , when Im 65..Im looking for my partner in Life,, and to have until i leave this world..Im not looking for just a good time,,i have had plenty of great times,,and still do..but as far as being single, I know what I want.



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Posted on Mon, Jul 18, 2005 12:40

Ok,,back to the topic...
Why are they still single...or should say ..why are they single.....

Maybe they choose to be...maybe they were married for a long time and are divorced..maybe they got sick and tired of trying to find a perfect match for them,,which can be exhausting,,to say the least..kind of like a rollercoaster ride at times..
Maybe if men would just be honest,,about what they want..
Maybe if we weren't so picky..or ,maybe if men were a little nicer to us.,, we wouldn't be single.
maybe if men realized that they need to treat a woman with respect,,instead of a bed buddy,, or to be at their beckoning call..and..instead to treat women nicely, and respectfully ALL the time ..except when they want something..maybe if they were a little more sensitive,,and tenderhearted,,maybe if they werent always in a bad mood,,maybe if Men were just kinder, and more thoughtful.

You seem to place the reason that women are still single,,as if they are because its their fault...I think it goes both ways...

Im single, because I chose to be..and until I meet a man who deserves to have a relationship with me,,that being,,,treat each with MUTUAL RESPECT....this goes both ways... and I meet a Man who isnt looking for a One night stand..or those that want repeaters only,,
then I will not be single anymore...until then..IM GOING TO BE SINGLE..

I have a lot to offer in a relationship,, Im a very thoughtful, giving, Loving, sharing, caring.passionate, person..
Im not setteling again for second best...and We dont have too.



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Posted on Mon, Jul 18, 2005 10:24


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Danny... I'm sure it's been said...haven't read the whole thread...but men have high expectations for the girls they meet too... check out SpeedDallas...there was a whole thread practically devoted to his expectations... unfortunately that seems to be why there are a lot of goodloooking MEN that are still single... too many folks look at the outside and never see the inside...

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Babydol Im sure you are right however this thread is about why beautiful women are still single. Lets stay with the thread. There are other threads to discuss about men and why they are the scum of the earth.



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Posted on Mon, Jul 18, 2005 05:53

OH OH I see it's back!!!



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Posted on Sun, Jul 17, 2005 22:47

We r still single...we PMS too much! lol

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Posted on Sat, Jul 16, 2005 17:05


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Danny,

To me, it's not just the women but the men as well. There are many men on this site, in the same age range as you described but haven't found the right woman yet.

Settling down with someone in my eyes is just that, settling.


Must disagree. "Settling" to me means stopping one's search having found someone who may be less than one's theoretical ideal, for reasons known only to the settler. "Settling down," on the other hand, MAY mean "settling" but is primarily to do with committing to a specific individual, whether ideal or not. Most of us agree there is no such thing as absolute perfection, in which case, all "settling down" may mean the same as "settling."

But I'm holding out for a nonsmoker who makes me weak in the knees just to look at her, whose kisses make me forget my name and feel like a student again, because being more or less my intellectual equal (or superior) there will be times when her brilliance is blinding.

I find one like that who feels the same as me, I'm likely to settle down. Will I settle for less? Not in this lifetime.


Wilfred...I think Mandy is not referring to settling for someone less than they desire, but settling down with the perfect women...eg stopping the search, living in bliss happily ever after in their little white picketed fence...you know the all American (as in North America) dream! :-)
None of us want to settle for less than we desire.
As for the intelligence...did you read the thread I began? What criteria do you use to determine someone's level of intelligence? A degree/PhD/Masters? or their ability to engage you in intellectually stimulating conversation on a wide range of topics?


The latter. My grandfather, one of the most intelligent and erudite people I've ever known, left school after the 8th grade to help support the family when his father became incapacitaded by a stroke. I have a BA and a Diploma from the University of Wales. I spent 18 years dropping in and out of six college and ended up with a single 4-year degree. That hardly screams "Intelligent!" A degree simply means one did the work to a particular level of satisfaction. Bassed solely upon test scores, I'm in the 98th-99th percentile and in many ways this has been a hindrance. But, short of a lobotomy, I suppose, it's not something I can change. So I continue to hope for a woman of like mind in many respects. Indeed, I am in a group for singles who belong to Mensa, and I find some of those women intriguing, but they are either way too young or as far away as the women wholook at my ad here at MM. In the meantimne, you folks in the forums are quite a lively and thought-provoking bunch, which is why I stay here too.

I'm not certain I saw your thread, Sharp. Would you please enlighten me? Be well,

Bill (aka wilfred06)


Wilfred it's under the Message Board forum called "Intelligence ... Is it a valid criteria?"

A man I dated last Fall, we're still friends, at the very start said he enjoyed everyday conversation, nothing about business or anything too technical. I wasn't too sure what he meant...could that be conversation like, "Nice day today, don't you think?" But he didn't. Just a normal converation about things that interest us. He is very intelligent, and extremely successful. We're still good friends, because we could talk about anything and everything. It never got too technical! But the conversation was kept interesting...thought provoking as you stated! :-)



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Posted on Sat, Jul 16, 2005 16:18


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wilfred06 write:

Mandalay207 write:
Danny,

To me, it's not just the women but the men as well. There are many men on this site, in the same age range as you described but haven't found the right woman yet.

Settling down with someone in my eyes is just that, settling.


Must disagree. "Settling" to me means stopping one's search having found someone who may be less than one's theoretical ideal, for reasons known only to the settler. "Settling down," on the other hand, MAY mean "settling" but is primarily to do with committing to a specific individual, whether ideal or not. Most of us agree there is no such thing as absolute perfection, in which case, all "settling down" may mean the same as "settling."

But I'm holding out for a nonsmoker who makes me weak in the knees just to look at her, whose kisses make me forget my name and feel like a student again, because being more or less my intellectual equal (or superior) there will be times when her brilliance is blinding.

I find one like that who feels the same as me, I'm likely to settle down. Will I settle for less? Not in this lifetime.


Wilfred...I think Mandy is not referring to settling for someone less than they desire, but settling down with the perfect women...eg stopping the search, living in bliss happily ever after in their little white picketed fence...you know the all American (as in North America) dream! :-)
None of us want to settle for less than we desire.
As for the intelligence...did you read the thread I began? What criteria do you use to determine someone's level of intelligence? A degree/PhD/Masters? or their ability to engage you in intellectually stimulating conversation on a wide range of topics?


The latter. My grandfather, one of the most intelligent and erudite people I've ever known, left school after the 8th grade to help support the family when his father became incapacitaded by a stroke. I have a BA and a Diploma from the University of Wales. I spent 18 years dropping in and out of six college and ended up with a single 4-year degree. That hardly screams "Intelligent!" A degree simply means one did the work to a particular level of satisfaction. Bassed solely upon test scores, I'm in the 98th-99th percentile and in many ways this has been a hindrance. But, short of a lobotomy, I suppose, it's not something I can change. So I continue to hope for a woman of like mind in many respects. Indeed, I am in a group for singles who belong to Mensa, and I find some of those women intriguing, but they are either way too young or as far away as the women wholook at my ad here at MM. In the meantimne, you folks in the forums are quite a lively and thought-provoking bunch, which is why I stay here too.

I'm not certain I saw your thread, Sharp. Would you please enlighten me? Be well,

Bill (aka wilfred06)



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Posted on Sat, Jul 16, 2005 15:53


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butterfly, the guy was no good for nothing and you married him? WHY????

I am not picking on you, but that is the problem sometimes. You marry someone thinking; oh, they'll change, but they don't.

And I said "SOME" women, not ALL. And.. I included guys in the equation.

So take that!!!



I love this question because people more often than not, miss a really key reason why we marry jerks.

They weren't jerks when we said, "I do!!!!!"

The ones we dated before we married them didn't say to themselves before they popped the question, "I want to marry this one! I'm gonna show them what a big freak I am and how impossibly rejectable I will be once we tie the knot!"

Men only really pull out the big guns in their "excess gas arsenal" (pardon the pun) AFTER the ink is dry on the marriage certificate! Women only really start duct-taping the toilet seat to the bowl AFTER the throwing of the bouquet! Nobody ever shows their most disgusting, boorish, shrewish, biotchy side until the deed is done!

THAT'S how we end up hitched to Spous-zilla and THAT'S why people are silly enough to ask, "What the heck did you ever see in that alien abduction reject, anyway?"

Oh, BTW ... GoodLife Grl..... that's a very impressive ribbit response you inspired there! lol Good on ya!


You answered my question, Katie: if women are aware that all men become jerks as soon as they are married, why marry them? I see that marriage is not on your list. My ex and I got married because we were from different countries and it was not possible to stay together unless we did. I divorced her for adult*ry, although whether that came about because I was "a jerk" or for other reasons is a topic for another time.

Simply put, beautiful (and any other sort) of women in that age group now can have careers, children out of wedlock without stigma or even adopt babies. They are no longer dependent upon men to be the breadwinners, despite the glass ceiling. They stand to lose more than they gain by marrying, in many cases, and they know it. Who can blame them for staying single?

So why do I list marriage? Mostly because I'm slightly older than that group mentioned above, and although I don't feel a burning need to be married for marriage' sake, neither am I unwilling to take the plunge once more if that's what it takes to keep that special one I alluded to in my earlier post.

The reasons people change after marriage are fairly well documented, although they may not be well-known. It's a two-way street, a double-edged sword and not likely to change much any time soon. So we muddle on as best we can. Be well,

Bill (aka wilfred06)



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Posted on Sat, Jul 16, 2005 15:41


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Danny,

To me, it's not just the women but the men as well. There are many men on this site, in the same age range as you described but haven't found the right woman yet.

Settling down with someone in my eyes is just that, settling.


Must disagree. "Settling" to me means stopping one's search having found someone who may be less than one's theoretical ideal, for reasons known only to the settler. "Settling down," on the other hand, MAY mean "settling" but is primarily to do with committing to a specific individual, whether ideal or not. Most of us agree there is no such thing as absolute perfection, in which case, all "settling down" may mean the same as "settling."

But I'm holding out for a nonsmoker who makes me weak in the knees just to look at her, whose kisses make me forget my name and feel like a student again, because being more or less my intellectual equal (or superior) there will be times when her brilliance is blinding.

I find one like that who feels the same as me, I'm likely to settle down. Will I settle for less? Not in this lifetime.


Wilfred...I think Mandy is not referring to settling for someone less than they desire, but settling down with the perfect women...eg stopping the search, living in bliss happily ever after in their little white picketed fence...you know the all American (as in North America) dream! :-)
None of us want to settle for less than we desire.
As for the intelligence...did you read the thread I began? What criteria do you use to determine someone's level of intelligence? A degree/PhD/Masters? or their ability to engage you in intellectually stimulating conversation on a wide range of topics?



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Posted on Sat, Jul 16, 2005 15:23


Mandalay207 write:
Danny,

To me, it's not just the women but the men as well. There are many men on this site, in the same age range as you described but haven't found the right woman yet.

Settling down with someone in my eyes is just that, settling.


Must disagree. "Settling" to me means stopping one's search having found someone who may be less than one's theoretical ideal, for reasons known only to the settler. "Settling down," on the other hand, MAY mean "settling" but is primarily to do with committing to a specific individual, whether ideal or not. Most of us agree there is no such thing as absolute perfection, in which case, all "settling down" may mean the same as "settling."

But I'm holding out for a nonsmoker who makes me weak in the knees just to look at her, whose kisses make me forget my name and feel like a student again, because being more or less my intellectual equal (or superior) there will be times when her brilliance is blinding.

I find one like that who feels the same as me, I'm likely to settle down. Will I settle for less? Not in this lifetime.



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Posted on Sat, Jul 16, 2005 13:49

I had my own list once with about 30 different qualities listed onit...right down to, he should like hunting & fishing! :-) Then he'd get along well with my brother-in-law! lol

I met someone who I thought met every single criteria I listed. With a few additional ones I didn't list, & would not want in a significant other: smoker, controlling personality, & drank too much, low self-esteem. All these traits did not show until I was head over heals in love, and he felt confident and secure in the relationship...sure he had me!

I threw my list away after that. I met someone a year later, who didn't fit my old list re: hunting/fishing, scuba, age, etc. Did not expect to have feelings for the person & he surprised me. He grew on me when I least expected it. We're still good friends.

I no longer have a list. I don't think I can put into words what attracts me to someone...I just know it, when I come across it. He can be a very handsome man, well off...but if I'm not attracted to their personality, how they conduct themselves and speak...I will never be attracted to them. They may be super nice, I could be platonic friends, but that's it.
My standards are high, and I know what I want in there personality. The rest I can be flexible on.
I guess I could be single for a long time, because few people come along that impress me enough to date them.



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Posted on Sat, Jul 16, 2005 13:02

Well, I can say I am taller than the average woman today (5'10) and I mostly attract men shorter than my self. It's not personal, but it doesn't work at all in certain situations (blush) We need partners that match us in in more than just one way, I don't "dis" man only for that reason. When you know your self enough to recognise what makes you happy and are observant & "level headed" enough to recognize those characteristics in your future mate... then like me, you make sure that this time, it will last for ever, you thrive to find the person who posseses them, or at least does not posses the ones which previously made you unhappy. .(Like bad temper, belittleing others, treating women like they have no intelligence and are not worth listening to) It's hard to find a tall man, who loves art, classical music as well as dance music, has a truly mild temper, wants friendship and mutual respect & understanding besides s*x, treats people around him in a kind caring way, is NOT a pompous A*S, (is good in bed or at least willing to learn from each other... blush) and will wooe me and sweep me off my feet and never ever stop romancing me, because as long as we are together, and as long as he treats me nice, I never will stop making him feel like my KING. Someone who will give his 100% as I do, who will never make promises he doesn't intend to keep, (most man do make them, and will say anything, just because they think it will get them into our pants...lol)

Someone who is sincerely looking for a lasting love, not a l*y for a few months... but mostly the "Tall" part is the hardest to match- with a nice, well mannered, intelligent person who shares some, if not most of my interests.

This "Nice" guy will definitely "Not" finish last. Most men I meet, who have these qualities are also very shallow, and that does not agree with me.

If I am willing to accept you with your big belly, or slightly crooked teeth...lol, a balding spot, I will find it beautiful and unique about you just because you impress me with your personality and kind heart,but why won't you man accept us, as we are too. I am not a model, but I do love certain attributes of my looks. Looks can always be altered, your heart and what makes you, YOU will remain the same... it's the heart and personality you need to look for in a woman... but most of you boys really are too shallow, (Not All, No Offense To The Nice Guys) I am educated and intelligent, love people, love life, and am Not "Two-Faced" or "Bi-Polar"...lol, there is nothing wrong with many of us, we just have to find our match, I don't want to be with the wrong man and I don't play games.

I do not want to pretend to be someone else to give the wrong impression, to catch a guy, and then 4 both of us 2 be unhappy again. In the end you are only hurting your self, you can't expect to get different results if you continue to make the same mistakes.

This time... My second chance at happiness, I know what will make it work, and I Am searching for the right man the "Love Of My Life".

Well at least these R My reasons.
And they are real. I am sure many women on here share those reasons with me as well.

Oh Hello to My Feline Friend. Hope everything is goingwell for you. Hugs,(wink) Kat



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Posted on Sat, Jul 16, 2005 09:08


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Well after a month of vacationing in the Bahamas I see a bunch of great answers to my question. And I'm sure there are many more.
My question was that a question and not to be redirected to another question or twisted around on unattractive women or even men.By the way, I think all women are attractive in one way or another. It amazes me to be attracted to a women who most men would find physically unattractive but shines in her femininity and sensuality. What a turn on! But like many people I tend to follow my self made list of preferences I seek in a woman. Because I'm slender and fit, I desire a woman who also is. I seek someone who is at the same level of intellect, moral decency, and spiritual conviction than myself. The rest of these preferences are listed in my profile.
But back to my question. After dating for 10 years I have many reasons already but wanted to see others. I've heard it all from finding a man with substance (which I find is subjective)to finding an entertainment caddy...lol free meal ticket or sugar daddy. I think its our responsibility as guys to separate the sincere women who seek love and marriage from the ladies who simply DO NOT RESPECT MEN! Unfortunately I have met my share of these later gems.
My criteria for finding a woman is very similar to some women's desire for a man. One who values, listens,supports, encourages, communicates well, acknowledges and affirms her man. Oh and someone who lives within an hours drive. I know my expectations are high...huh! Or are they? Is it that difficult to find someone who meets these expectations. I came close 5X and each wanted to marry me. But I had to make a responsible decision and hence here I AM! lOOKING, SEEKING, ON THE PROWL FOR THAT EVER ELUSIVE GIRL OF MY DREAMS. Keep the answers coming.

DAMNITTTTTTTTT you went to the Bahama's w/o me :(



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Posted on Mon, Jul 11, 2005 21:49

Well after a month of vacationing in the Bahamas I see a bunch of great answers to my question. And I'm sure there are many more.
My question was that a question and not to be redirected to another question or twisted around on unattractive women or even men.By the way, I think all women are attractive in one way or another. It amazes me to be attracted to a women who most men would find physically unattractive but shines in her femininity and sensuality. What a turn on! But like many people I tend to follow my self made list of preferences I seek in a woman. Because I'm slender and fit, I desire a woman who also is. I seek someone who is at the same level of intellect, moral decency, and spiritual conviction than myself. The rest of these preferences are listed in my profile.
But back to my question. After dating for 10 years I have many reasons already but wanted to see others. I've heard it all from finding a man with substance (which I find is subjective)to finding an entertainment caddy...lol free meal ticket or sugar daddy. I think its our responsibility as guys to separate the sincere women who seek love and marriage from the ladies who simply DO NOT RESPECT MEN! Unfortunately I have met my share of these later gems.
My criteria for finding a woman is very similar to some women's desire for a man. One who values, listens,supports, encourages, communicates well, acknowledges and affirms her man. Oh and someone who lives within an hours drive. I know my expectations are high...huh! Or are they? Is it that difficult to find someone who meets these expectations. I came close 5X and each wanted to marry me. But I had to make a responsible decision and hence here I AM! lOOKING, SEEKING, ON THE PROWL FOR THAT EVER ELUSIVE GIRL OF MY DREAMS. Keep the answers coming.



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Posted on Thu, Jul 07, 2005 23:37


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Oscar Wilde said something like:
"A woman marries a man, thinking she can change him.
A man marries a woman, thinking she will never change.
Both are mistaken."

_______________________________

Both are not mistaken but just have different parallel expectations and that is where the twain shall never meet..
go for arranged marriages, at least you leave the choice to the people who love you most and know you as you are..your parents..and you leave the expecting to them cos all they expect are grandkids..lol...or kids or pals cos they really want you to be happy and you don't know how to go about finding it..



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Posted on Thu, Jul 07, 2005 16:13

why are we single?
When I was young my attraction was to my opposite because he had qualities that I wanted and strived to achieve. So I fell in love with an opposite which means-you either grow apart or with them and learn from each others strengths & faults. But if only one is ready to understand that after the "young" love comes an experienced love (meaning you know more of who you are and where you are going) then one grows in one direction and the other grows or stays put and even sadder desends. Then we reach a point were you make a decision on the above three paths you are going to continuing on. I believe if we are single in this time of our lives we have chosen two of the paths above (growth or desending). I know I have chosen to grow as a person and I am now searching for the right person to compliment me and be with me through my continuous growth and I the same for my future partner. Best of luck everyone - it is an adventure!

  


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Posted on Thu, Jul 07, 2005 14:12


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butterfly, the guy was no good for nothing and you married him? WHY????

I am not picking on you, but that is the problem sometimes. You marry someone thinking; oh, they'll change, but they don't.

And I said "SOME" women, not ALL. And.. I included guys in the equation.

So take that!!!


Oscar Wilde said something like:
"A woman marries a man, thinking she can change him.
A man marries a woman, thinking she will never change.
Both are mistaken."

When we enter relationships because of what we think the other will become because of our love we are just asking for trouble. Such a person is an idealist. Disappoint them and you'll be in trouble. I'm here for that very reason, sadder, but a little wiser. When I didn't become what she expected, and never mind that she never even told me what she expected, let alone considered whether her dream for me was realistic, she washed her hands of me. And I'm lucky to have escaped, I reckon, because nobody can live up to another's dream forever.



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Posted on Thu, Jul 07, 2005 13:52


butterflynjax write:

Men have made women wise up.!!!


I'm looking for a wise woman. Or maybe I should say a wised up woman. Not looking for perfection, just one who understands that while neither of us are perfect, with effort we might approach it. But only together. Once the paths diverge, it's all over but the crying, in my experience.



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