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Posted on Fri, Jun 10, 2005 20:17


Bonnie88 write:
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Yes, cheap foreign production of consumer goods is damaging. Most of the high-tech manufactering jobs are now overseas. That leaves a lot of skilled people without jobs and they are reduced to taking jobs for which they are overqualified and with lower pay. It reduces many of the middle class to poverty levels.

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Obviously their hi-tech skill is not that hi-tech so that the underdeveloped nations with less education could reproduce for far less! Just shows that everyone's job is replaceable and be defunct or replaced by some machine..and therefore everyone should be aware to constantly improve on your skills..no job is for life in this day and age ..our skills are replaceable..





I am talking about jobs like machinist, electronic tech, other manufacturing jobs. Not engineering, although those are being replaced by cheap overseas labor also, esp. programmers.

It is not a good situtation and I am sure something will eventually have to be done to brings jobs back to the US.



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Posted on Thu, Jun 09, 2005 23:42

That is probably what my wife did.
lol
In fact, I don't even remember touching the woman. Probably osmosis.



have u done DNA test , u sure your kids are yours???lol
Here in UK they found that at least 1 in 3 kids are not the product of the immediate parents...so alot of hanky-panky truancy happen outside of the institution of marriage..



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Posted on Thu, Jun 09, 2005 23:37

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Yes, cheap foreign production of consumer goods is damaging. Most of the high-tech manufactering jobs are now overseas. That leaves a lot of skilled people without jobs and they are reduced to taking jobs for which they are overqualified and with lower pay. It reduces many of the middle class to poverty levels.

wwwww
Obviously their hi-tech skill is not that hi-tech so that the underdeveloped nations with less education could reproduce for far less! Just shows that everyone's job is replaceable and be defunct or replaced by some machine..and therefore everyone should be aware to constantly improve on your skills..no job is for life in this day and age ..our skills are replaceable..



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Posted on Thu, Jun 09, 2005 20:52

.these women reported that they go to bed every night with the condoms on the thumb but they still get pregnant.
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That is probably what my wife did.
lol
In fact, I don't even remember touching the woman. Probably osmosis.



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Posted on Thu, Jun 09, 2005 20:49

Bonnie "www..so are u suggestion that cheap labor is damaging to the developed world just because they rob the developed world of their jobs?? If that is their only resource what can they do to survive?"

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Yes, cheap foreign production of consumer goods is damaging. Most of the high-tech manufactering jobs are now overseas. That leaves a lot of skilled people without jobs and they are reduced to taking jobs for which they are overqualified and with lower pay. It reduces many of the middle class to poverty levels.

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Posted on Mon, Jun 06, 2005 11:50

Just this week Bob geldof is doing another Live aid program which he started 10 years ago , the millions that he raised did little to save Africa, hence he has teamed up again with lots of pop groups and singers to do another one, at the request of Mandela..to 'make poverty history'..a tall order for all , but is yet another step ..another false hope perhaps..
www..so are u suggestion that cheap labor is damaging to the developed world just because they rob the developed world of their jobs?? If that is their only resource what can they do to survive?

In poor countries like that, the only entertainment for them is sex..so babies are the product of that entertainment. They are uneducated. There was a story about how a nurse showed women in the villages how to use the condom by demonstrating the wearing of the condom over her finger ..months later they noticed that the birth rate remain unchanged..then when asked whether they used the condoms given to them..these women reported that they go to bed every night with the condoms on the thumb but they still get pregnant...so it is a long long way to control their birth rate..



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Posted on Mon, Jun 06, 2005 08:08

Birth control is needed in Africa not only for the population but to stop Aids from spreading and causing further misery to what exists already.

But right now in Africa the big problem is corruption. A big big problem which contributes directly to the problem of hunger and Aids. Until corruption is eliminated (or greatly reduced for it can never be eliminated 100%) the problems in Africa will continue and will grow.

Earthquakes, tsunamis, floods... Mother Nature's cruel little ways of controlling over-population....



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Posted on Mon, Jun 06, 2005 07:30

Bonnie - "the ones who survive are the toughest breed of human labor force"
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Would the survivors and hungry ones be the toughest, smartest, etc, or rather the most ruthless, the cruelest, the most evil?

Few of those consumer goods you mentioned are absolutely necessary for any nation and can be done without or manufactured internally. Cheapest is not necessary healthy for the consuming nations because of the lost of jobs in the importing country.



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Posted on Sun, Jun 05, 2005 23:04

Nothing has happened yet to stop the "no birth control" countries of the world from growing at an alarming pace. Some developed countries are not even replacing their population, but that is not the norm.


This statement you said is itself a human attempt to address the imbalance of world's population inadvertently...the aging developed countries need the cheap labor force of the over-populated countries to serve them...look around your home , more and more of all that u need from food to your TV, car, computer are now being produced by those countries with huge resources of cheap labor..whether they control baby production or not..those who do not perish from hunger and disease but the ones who survive are the toughest breed of human labor force..survival of the fittest is nature's only way forward...



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Posted on Sun, Jun 05, 2005 19:38


Bonnie88 write:
www...you have forgotten how many millions natural disasters like earthquakes and the recent tsunami could claim...not to mention wars and the two atomic bombs and a few Hitlers and you will be decimating the world's population to near extinction..
wastage happens too in the natural evolution of life...your mathematical calculations did not take into consideration the unknown factor..Nature and man's own folly...



Nothing has happened yet to stop the "no birth control" countries of the world from growing at an alarming pace. Some developed countries are not even replacing their population, but that is not the norm.



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Posted on Sun, Jun 05, 2005 09:29

www...you have forgotten how many millions natural disasters like earthquakes and the recent tsunami could claim...not to mention wars and the two atomic bombs and a few Hitlers and you will be decimating the world's population to near extinction..
wastage happens too in the natural evolution of life...your mathematical calculations did not take into consideration the unknown factor..Nature and man's own folly...



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Posted on Sun, Jun 05, 2005 08:57

If you provide food and medicine, etc. today to one million people who breed and produce 10 million in 25 years who breed and produce 100 million in 50 years who breed and produce 1000 million in 75 years, how have you done the world a favor? Can you now feed one billion decendants from the 1 million?

Without birth control, it is hopeless to help, and only results in more suffering, by more people, in the end. That fact is something I had to face many years ago.



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Posted on Fri, Jun 03, 2005 02:46

So many people on this Earth have so much less than we have. I think it's appalling that people are actually dying of starvation at this day and age in Africa for example when we in the Western world have so many resources and so much food at our disposal and we just take it for granted and waste it.
There is an imbalance in this world that's for sure.
And yes I also think deprivation is good. I also believe that we are more resilient than we think and that if we found ourselves in dire conditions - having to live with the bare minimum under very difficult conditions, we would get used to it very quickly and adapt. It's amazing what the human body and mind can get used to when it doesn't have any other choice. It's that survival instinct that takes over.



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Posted on Mon, May 30, 2005 15:25

Good , that is the start of empathy..when we realise how tough life could be for so many who have less than we do..
It saddens me when I see kids here playing truant ignoring the education served to them on a plate free and the kids in Zambia walk bare foot for 30 miles to go to their nearest school and work in the day and could only study by candle light at night and they would be the lucky ones , if they get candles give to them...if I could exchange every child who play truant here for a Zambian child to take his place, and send the truant to Zambia, it might show that privilege child a good lesson..deprivation is good for the spirit..



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Posted on Mon, May 30, 2005 00:03


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Ah, I suspect that permission would not be granted. Good story though.

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Permissions, grants, licensing...by the time these are sorted out all the Chinese and all the Koreans would have exchanged and bartered all the hardware, forged all the software, copied all your latest Hollywood movies and sold them for pennies to each other..how do you think the 1.2 bn or more poor Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese.survive all these deprivation..all these years? .that is how naive the rest of the developed free world is..
Physical poverty is something people of these deprived nations are used to and as long as they could remember for generations..but they are surprisingly not spiritually impoverished..they live in the hope that the next generation will do better ..and that sort of spirit keeps them going by the skin of their teeth. Whether we label their activities immoral, illegal..in the name of survival they will grin and bare the shame and live another day..some make it many don't..some sell their souls and some die doing it..just so that the next generation gets a break. It is a continuous tale told in all the immigrant diasporas all over the free world ..the journey has not ended for many millions..I am just one of the lucky ones whose forebears escaped to give me that opportunity for a new beginning.



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Posted on Sun, May 29, 2005 23:46

Everything can be smuggled there, the borders between China and Korea is where all is happening , u could smuggle TV, cigarettes, computers, old motorbikes...there is a huge thriving black market along the border towns. The head chiefs in those towns are the key operators. Look at the map, N. Korea shares a long border strip with Jilin province , N.E China and even a narrow strip of Russia. In all these border towns , alot of barter trading goes on if they don't have the cash. YOU could trade anything from timber, gold, used electronic equipment...I know a Singapore girl who barter trades with Vietnam, Japanese used motorbikes for Vietnamese rice, timber, metal..she is the financier middleman..and operates only from a mobile phone...
It is the wild wild frontier there..just like the days of the gold rush..anything and everything is trade-able...



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Posted on Sun, May 29, 2005 23:17

They might grant permission. They mostly are worried about the latest products, especially those that might have military use or aid in military weapons development. I actually don't even know if we allow any exports to NK other than food.

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Posted on Sun, May 29, 2005 21:58

The best bet would be a foundation. Several years ago I helped set up a deal where a government agency donated their old computers, a vo-tech school went after them and repaired them as needed, and a foundation paid for all expenses. The comuters went to poorer schools in the delta. Worked good. The US has laws against technology exports, especially places like NK. so you would have to get permission.



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Posted on Sun, May 29, 2005 16:57


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So getting computers (donated older ones?) into the hands of North Koreans is the problem, not actual access to the net? How could these pc's possibly get into the country and into people's homes without government destruction of the property? Just curious.


Hey Cub, are you thinking up a business plan for smuggling used computers into N.Korea? Maybe you don't have to smuggle...I'll bet lots of Chineese families would like to be able to afford one...you just have to cover your costs of shipping! lol



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Posted on Sun, May 29, 2005 00:27

I help a Korean girl to do her PHd thesis here . Though she comes from S. Korea , she could still communicate on the internet with friends at home and relatives in N. Korea..and the only thing that keeps them out of contact is the expense of owning a computer.

China tried blocking their sites but the users are ingenius , they go thru long convoluted means of spreading dissident literature thru connections in obscure sites operated in Holland and elsewhere. I use a Chinese literary site called' Banyan Tree' and u get as much as 250,000 hits in the space of less than an hour at peak. China users are so massive that they can't get messages out since the network can't cope with the volume and there is usually a delay.



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