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Posted on Fri, May 27, 2005 01:54

An excellent example of the Communist Party?s use of violence is its support of the Cambodian Khmer Rouge. Under the Khmer Rouge a quarter of Cambodia?s population, including a majority of Chinese immigrants and descents, were murdered. China still blocks the international community from putting the Khmer Rouge on trial, so as to cover up the CCP?s notorious role in the genocide.

The CCP has close connections with the world?s most brutal revolutionary armed forces and despotic regimes. In addition to the Khmer Rouge, these include the communist parties in Indonesia, the Philippines, Malaysia, Vietnam, Burma, Laos, and Nepal?all of which were established under the support of the CCP. Many leaders in these communist parties are Chinese; some of them are still hiding in China to this day.

Other Maoist-based Communist Parties include South America?s Shining Path and the Japanese Red Army, whose atrocities have been condemned by the world community.

One of the theories the communists employ is social Darwinism. The Communist Party applies Darwin?s inter-species competition to human relationships and human history, maintaining that class struggle is the only driving force for societal development. Struggle, therefore, became the primary ?belief? of the Communist party, a tool in gaining and maintaining political control. Mao?s famous words plainly betray this logic of the survival of the fittest: ?With 800 million people, how can it work without struggle??

Another one of Mao?s claims that is similarly famous is that the Cultural Revolution should be conducted ?every seven or eight years.? [5] Repetitive use of force is an important means for the CCP to maintain its ruling in China. The goal of using force is to create terror. Every struggle and movement served as an exercise in terror, so that the Chinese people trembled in their hearts, submitted to the terror and gradually became enslaved under the CCP?s control.

Today, terrorism has become the main en...



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Posted on Fri, May 27, 2005 01:54

Today, terrorism has become the main enemy of the civilized and free world. The CCP?s exercise of violent terrorism, thanks to the apparatus of the state, has been larger in scale, much longer lasting, and its results more devastating. Today, in the twenty-first century, we should not forget this inherited character of the Communist Party, since it will definitely play a crucial role to the destiny of the CCP some time in the future.

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II. Using Lies to Justify Violence

The level of civilization can be measured by the degree to which violence is used in a regime. By resorting to the use of violence, the Communist regimes clearly represent a huge step backward in human civilization. Unfortunately, the Communist Party has been seen as progressive by those who believe that violence is an essential and inevitable means to societal advancement.

This acceptance of violence has to be viewed as an unrivaled and skillful employment of deception and lies by the Communist Party, which is another inherited trait of the CCP.



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Posted on Fri, May 27, 2005 01:38

Bonnie, have you read the
Nine Commentaries, the history of the Chinese Communist, the millions killed, the brutality, killing the educated, wiping out the culture and replacing it with communism, etc.



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Posted on Fri, May 27, 2005 01:34

www..in my MA course in Modern chinese and Japanese literature..I stumbled on a fascinating fact, the ideals of western socialism was first planted into the minds of a group of Chinese literary students studying at Columbia University who were so enamoured of Wellesley's concept of socialism and Nationalism..that this group of literary students returned to China and imported those ideals and started literary clubs, changed and simplified the complicated chinese writing in 1917 as it is known today so that the Chinese masses could be educated quickly of this great western political philosophy..This group's work so fascinated Mao Tse Tung that he joined them and the rest was history. He had used them as a propanganda and education machinery to publicise his socialistic ideals which was later over powered by Mao's fascination with Marx's more stringent ideals..so China's brand of communism is a fascinating mutation of WEstern nationalism that has traces of Wellesley's import and Marx's ideals which Mao continued to tinker and mutate till he evolved Maoism....there grew then several factions who were propagating various political ideals..Dr. Sun Yat Sen, the Western educated doctor and father of the new republic in 1918 was not powerful enough to propagate his more conservative democratic movement and was overtaken subsequently by a host of useless proteges including Chiang Kaishek who was pro-American and supported by the US govt. but he lost to Mao later and fled to Taiwan..and was not such a popular leader as the west has deemed him to be...I could go on and on but shall spare you of the details..so if u want to read about what China's real revolution is about I could give you ream and verse ..but lots need to be translated from Chinese..



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Posted on Fri, May 27, 2005 01:22

Bonnie: "Communism if I was one of the leaders in that long march to change and would probably have been a matyr for that cause"

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Bonnie, have you read the
Nine Commentaries, the history of the Chinese Communist, the millions killed, the brutality, killing the educated, wiping out the culture and replacing it with communism, etc.

Read it here.

www*.theepochtimes.**com/jiuping.**asp

take out the **

Apparently 1.5 million chinese have resigned from the Chinese Communist Party because of this document. It is entitled Nine Commentaries on the Communist party and is in French, German, English, and Chinese.



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Posted on Fri, May 27, 2005 01:09

Bonnie: which would you have preferred?
Communism or the Brits. Don't be evasive.

Your Honor, Please make the lawyer witness person answer the question.



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Posted on Fri, May 27, 2005 01:09

www...Communism if I was one of the leaders in that long march to change and would probably have been a matyr for that cause when u see so much injustice in a country squandered away by centuries of selfish warlords and feudalistic dynastic families. ..the revolutionary in me surfaces..imagine such alot of real adventure marching thru severe terrain trying to change your own country with ideals imported from some great socio-political hero from the West called Marx!!. It could have been a replay of the French revolution..gone awry ..that human beings are probably incapable of being altruistic..whether it is socialist ideals or otherwise.
British rule was one of subtle silent domination and our leaders too had to fight that war for our freedom..there were riots and unemployment , poverty ..not that different..one commits the sort of subtle cultural genocide obliterating the native culture by an even more subtle form of conditioning ..that one could only survive if one assimilates into that culture but be subservient to its masters..what is the difference? that I should applaud Colonialism for making me what I am today?? I was caught in that twilight zone when we became a republic and fortunately my country went thru a less traumatic transformation than those lesser colonies..and my own education was not disrupted..
..the BOxer revolution, the Opium war were one of attempted domination thru trade..selling to China opium which a weak country did not need..unfair trading and occupation of another's territory could never be justified for any reason ..and taking advantage of a weak country at the brink of bankruptcy in the throes of internal civil wars and strife..so please don't go into history again..
Colonialism is just an alternative word for en masse domination conducted by self-serving powers no different from pirates on a rampage, all in the name of a mission to educate and serve the poor illiterate natives in their poor isolated world..give me a break



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Posted on Fri, May 27, 2005 00:32

wwww...I have often asked that question especially recently when I was there..if I grew up in China on Hainan island, I may have had a pretty standard education but then again because my grandfather was a Guomindang high official , our families would be persecuted hence he fled when the Communist took over..I might have also become a doctor like an aunt of mine who now runs a major hospital on that island..so I think I might still have been a professional proletariat member after some political brain-conditioning , expounding revolutionary ideals..I met quite a few of these women in my meetings recently in China. There was one who is the chief of the official Shanghai cultural Dept..she was about my age and she has a team of men of all ages under her supervision and command..who knows I think I might have been a very powerful dowager...in a potentially very powerful nation..you will be amazed at how many women in powerful positions there are in my age group running vey big institutions and companies today in China..so I might just have been very powerful perhaps married to a very important high official in the politburo...lol..and I might still be here conversing in English because they have very fluent speakers of English and any European languages from Russian to German..the Chinese are natural linguists since they speak over hundreds of dialects and languages..so what were you expecting me to tell you, that I might just be a little farmer's wife toiling in the farm...I have not begun to tell you the history of the women in my family ..and how they have all been pioneers in their time...lol..it is in my genes..dominatrix in all conditions..lol..the leopardess never changes her spots either..
btw if you have read about the three Soong sisters who married the three most important figures in Chinese history, they were born in the same village that my father came from..so I might have followed their footsteps..lol



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Posted on Fri, May 27, 2005 00:11

Bonnie:
"I grew up in a colony which was in the throes of fighting for independence throughout my teens and watched the politics and the struggle for survival ."

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Let me ask one question. If you had not been born in a British colony, would you have been born in a Communist country, and if so, which would you have perfered?

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Posted on Thu, May 26, 2005 23:48

Sharp,
In all my encounters with people from all over the world, Canadians have always been one of my favorite in that you are always more open to suggestion and open to people from all over the world mainly because I guess you understand what it is like living under the shadow of a powerful neighbor..hence your empathy is borne out of shared experience. (www..I see you grimacing as I make this prejudicial statement)
I grew up in a colony which was in the throes of fighting for independence throughout my teens and watched the politics and the struggle for survival .
I witness the hard metamorphosis of politics and change in my own country. I may be in danger of having a permanent chip on my shoulder when one has gone thru such hard times and therefore less tolerant and even cynical of those who have not. Adversity makes the true man just as diamonds are the product of severe conditions. We are conditioned to see life from a harder perspective, not thru rose-tinted glasses..



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Posted on Thu, May 26, 2005 23:35


wwwww123 write:
Here is a cultural difference for you.


An Englishman is a person who does things because they have been done before. An American is a person who does things because they haven't been done before.

Mark Twain
A true statement for all who dare to go down un-trodden paths..the immigrant adventurer who dare venture out of his familiar comfort zone has that spirit..but the Brits will tell you Isaac Newton did not follow the norm and discovered lots including gravity just sitting under the apple tree...he was not American...lol



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Posted on Thu, May 26, 2005 23:04

I just started a quotes thread, hopefully quotes from around the world,-- translated, I hope.

wwwww

more that I like,

"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough"
Einstein

"The man who regards his own life and that of his fellow creatures as meaningless is not merely unfortunate but almost disqualified for life"
Einstein.

Maybe he was talking about the suicide bombers.

"Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius-and a lot of courage-to move in the opposite direction."
Einstein



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Posted on Thu, May 26, 2005 21:55


wwwww123 write:
Mark Twain

"In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination."
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"The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who can't read them."
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"I have no color prejudices nor caste prejudices nor creed prejudices. All I care to know is that a man is a human being, and that is enough for me; he can't be any worse."
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"Good breeding consists in concealing how much we think of ourselves and how little we think of the other person."
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"I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way."



Way to go 5w's! :-)
Twain has many great quotes...you're good, I can never remember them!



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Posted on Thu, May 26, 2005 19:59

Mark Twain

"In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination."
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"The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who can't read them."
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"I have no color prejudices nor caste prejudices nor creed prejudices. All I care to know is that a man is a human being, and that is enough for me; he can't be any worse."
* * *
"Good breeding consists in concealing how much we think of ourselves and how little we think of the other person."
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"I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way."



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Posted on Thu, May 26, 2005 19:43

Here is a cultural difference for you.


An Englishman is a person who does things because they have been done before. An American is a person who does things because they haven't been done before.

Mark Twain



And it applies to more than the English, in fact, to most of the rest of the world.

wwwww



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Posted on Thu, May 26, 2005 16:47


Bonnie88 write:
Sharp,
CAnada, Australia ..had a different experience in that as a predominantly English and Caucasian territory , the British rule was different.
In the other parts of the colonial empire , we still remember there use to be signs in elevators forbidding Non-Whites and dogs from entry.WE would have to read English LIterture , poetry that has little relevance to our lives, imagine reading about 'ode to autumn' by Coleridge when we only have summer all year round, or 'hotcross buns' an d'Christmas pudding' when we don't celebrate Christmas..so we had British culture rammed down our throat and while I know lots about English literature I know little about my own chinese Literture..it is a form of cultural genocide that we had to obliterate our own cultural heritage to adopt one that is completely alien to our own...fortunately I see that as just a new experience and small wonder that I married my colonial master..and had to adopt his country as mine..In our family it is not the 'generation gap ' that exist but also 'educational and cultural gap' ..since my parents were all Chinese educated and we are not..the price for our adulterated history is our own heritage..the irony is here in UK I still get Brits asking me where I learn how to speak such good English..I usually smile and reply: 'from School just like you and certainly not the gutter..'
Ignorance has its own price tag..



Bonnie, unless I walked in your footsteps I could not truly know how you feel, but I believe I have a good idea. And being caucasion, yes I have not endured the prejudice that you have. You have good reason to feel as you do. Maybe I'm nieve, but no one I know would ask you where did you learn to speak such good English?



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Posted on Thu, May 26, 2005 15:58

We know. The US was also a colony that won its independence. The French, the English, and the Spanish were all here.

The good thing about colonization of America is that there would have been no place for the immigrants of the world to go if it had not been opened up for them by the colonial powers.

Now don't tell me about the Indians, etc. They were immigrants also, just earlier. Now they even think some of them came from a primative tribe in France, in addition to Asians.



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Posted on Thu, May 26, 2005 14:15

www..that is quite right , domination is just a form of bullying and robbery..but when it is done en masse it is also known as colonization..
historically, all countries and kingdoms were formed through the conquest of territories..men as territorial animals marking their boundaries by force. The lion of the tribes take all and become King.



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Posted on Thu, May 26, 2005 14:03

Thomas Payne wrote (in 1776) about kings in "Common Sense".
If "we could take off the covering of antiquity and trace them (kings) to their first rise, we should find the first of them nothing better than the principal ruffian of some restless gang, whose savage manners of pre-eminence in subtility obtained him the title of chief among plunderers



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Posted on Thu, May 26, 2005 09:44


. I just came back from Australia, and noticed from museums visits, that it's history begun with the arrival of the west to its shore - Dutch in Perth and British in the East coast. I could be wrong though...

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YOu are right Maayan, because the Brits and Europeans have always had a history of recording and registering facts..and figures..it is inevitable that the earliest written records would be kept by them and these would be displayed as if history begun with the arrival of the west..earliest records would be those kept by the missionaries and the first troupes sent out with the prisoners..since all the natives and indigenous migrants were either lowly educated and too busy to keep any form of written record.
The same with the history of Singapore, it was 'founded by Raffles'..'Founded' is such a quaint and inaccurate word..like he discovered the moon or something..when he arrived there were already in existence for years the migrant Indian, Chinese workers who were working side by side with the native Malays...so it is a historical misnomer to claim that Singapore was 'founded' by Raffles...it was 'claimed as a colony' is more appropriate without consensus nor approval by any of the indigenous population who were then ocupying the territory..not dissimilar to Colombus who founded the Americas...even though the REd Indians were the natives there.



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