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Posted on Wed, Oct 12, 2005 20:38

thegoodlife,

I know what you are saying about having an unusual high IQ, it is so dang hard to relate with students your age when you are a kid..hated school for a time till I passed my University entrance exam at 16..that felt good; at least the students were smarter and more mature and then again some of them weren't lol..The perception was different. For the first time in my life I was finally learning something ha! How about you ? Probably had your fair share being told you were weird a bit huh !! ?

My experiences started at around 6 years old, I have some earlier but they were more vivid after 6. I was like you I found them interesting. ha!

For out of body experiences, the last time was 5 or 6 years ago, I don't care much about them anymore as I know what it is like being out of your body. It feels free though ha! Have you seen your spiritual form when you were out or are your experiences like many other, they can't seem to remember that part. It was the first thing I observed when I got out of my body and the rings of power that hold your spiritual form in your body and breaking free from them...this was very interesting how it looks.

As for the Angel I saw I definitely recogized it by reading the first chapter of Revelation, as I knew that chapter since 6 years old and also the transfiguration of Jesus, it also gave me clues. Angel apparition has occured some 13 - 15 times. I saw them before but never could figure out what they were as they disappeared too fast but the last 13-15 I saw them in clear form; very beautiful that is for sure.

The dark spirits I have seen them many times since my youth, have you seen them before these dark one? These one are a different story...

I have a curious question, have you seen a silver cord as many other people say they see when the head up in the heaven? I have never seen it and my other friend said the same thing so I don't know why we would have this difference from what I have read about other people experiences. Let me know your thoughts o.k. I would appreciate that much.

As for the family and being an oddity there was not much I could do about that as you yourself would know, you only have to take a look at your experiences I guess it gives you a clue to what transpired in my life a bit.

When I first saw your writing in another board I had a feeling you had experienced out of body experiences as you definitely rang things differently that is why I mentioned it in the post 3 days ago. Your intuition clicked the bell inside, you surely are aware of what I am saying.

I find what you shared interesting and funny on some.

BQ



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Posted on Wed, Oct 12, 2005 09:19


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It may have some drawbacks to reveal remote viewing talents in a forum. Not only might that scare a few people, but also make others envious. Still others might think that it's only bragging.

Personally, I think its best if some of lifes mysteries are kept secret. That can make it a lot more fun. Uri Geller had an extreme lot of resistance due to all sorts of people being envious of his talents. I may have some of those talents myself but never ask me about them, because all you'll ever get is a mischievious twinkle in my eyes.



I actually agree with you . . . I had second thoughts after posting my message. I don't want to come across as some kind of wingnut or braggart.

All the same, this is a dating site, and I figure, any man who wants me, has to deal with ALL of me, my quirky brain included. And wouldn't it be nice if there were some great guy out there who was just like me?

So there you have it: I'm flying my "freak flag" for all to see, in the hopes someone might actually like it!



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Posted on Tue, Oct 11, 2005 10:02

BQ, I was three years old, unusually wise, and knew I was different. I "flew" and talked to "angels." My mother seemed also to have eyes on the back of her head so for awhile I suspected she might be a witch, and that I got my "powers" from her. Far from being frightened by it, I found it terribly exciting. Imagine my disappointment when, after rifling through her closets and drawers, I was unable to find her pointy black hat! Many years later I realized that any psychic abilities I have probably came from my father.

Over the years, I came to realize that a part of my childhood experience came from having an unusually high IQ. Children often have out of body experiences at night; it shouldn't be considered extraordinary. What's remarkable is that I can still pull it off as an adult, albeit occasionally.

One more thing: Our otherworldly experiences are colored by our religious beliefs. We might call them "angels," but we really don't know who or what they are. Sci-fi folks might conclude these beings are from another planet. An Irishman might conclude they are the Fey (fairies). My old (protestant) church pastor would have told me they were demons trying to trick me. So what you saw might have been angels . . . or they may have only been "angelic." You'll probably never know for sure!



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Posted on Mon, Oct 10, 2005 18:53

Thegoodlife, you seem to be a very self aware person, you write like you have been on a real quest for knowledge for some time ? lol...

I have been out of my body and I have seen my spiritual form; it is very beautiful and white like florescent light when it is dimmer, it was a swirling energy,conscious thoughts were so pure it baffled me you wouldn't believe how pure and sharp you can think..I would say it is like light. I floated and rose up and down as the thought moved...very interesting, just saw my body lying there as a shell, just happened when I was lying on my bed. I went for a check up and the cardiogram said I had a heart attack previously but somehow came back ha!

I have always thanked God for the experience because it has transformed me a lot, I have gained psychic abilities, I see Angels now and then also the fallen spirits; the Angels are an awesome sight to see, they have golden hair, a golden girdle belt around there waiste it looked like 3 to 4 inch wide, an aura of gold all around them like a protection shield. The gold aura must be at least 2 inch in width but there is a glow that radiates from it on both side in and out of the aura for some 4 inch wide or maybe 5...it is quite a sight to see that is for sure. There expression is real meek and there eyes would melt your soul as they look at you otherwise the rest of there body is all a pure white robe, the closes I can say this white looks like is an internet white page but it is still much more white than that. They appear and disappear at will. It is sure a comfort in a crazy world we live in to see the Word of God is true.

I now understand what Jesus always said to His disciple I and the father are one. Indeed all is connected to God and Jesus said unless we abide in the vine we are like a dead branch.

thegoodlife I am aware you have psychic abilities, how did you become aware of them?

BQ



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Posted on Sat, Oct 01, 2005 20:41

Robotic 123... Our human essence is simply spirit; each of us a particle of the One experiencing Itself through many. When you are willing to experience the magic of who you truly are I propose you rent the DVD "What the Bleep Do We Know Anyway" and create your day in joy!



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Posted on Thu, Sep 29, 2005 16:54

Thank you for your post globalheart, I think it is a good one. I too am on the inner journey and believe these are important questions to ask one's soul. Who am I, what is the purpose of my life, how will I fulfill it and what do I really want.

Detachment, surrender, acceptance, non-judgement, giving, loving, kindness...are all part of this inner growth I believe, and the journey being as important to me as the destination.

Thanks again.

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Posted on Thu, Sep 29, 2005 14:56

A joy to read conscious perspectives. Thank you for showing up! My focus is to continue with inner work. Releasing attachment to the role of 'savior' is in lightening. There is nothing to defend, just live in the moment and enjoy the journey. Namaste!



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Posted on Thu, Sep 29, 2005 13:38

How many tens of thousands of experiments are needed until you call a spade a spade? It is amusing that there are still people that would rather call millions of other honest people liars than to be open to the possibility that there is psychic phenomenon, including psychokinesis and telekinesis which cannot be explained. If those kind of people were a lot older, they'd probably still be arguing that the world is flat.



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Posted on Thu, Sep 29, 2005 13:12

I love the story of the visitor who went to a tea ceremony with a Zen master. The Zen master poured the tea in the cup, but didn't stop pouring and the tea was gushing all over the table. The shocked visitor asked the Zen master why he was doing that and the master answered, I wanted to show you how you are. You are so full of knowledge that you cannot be open for new experiences, anything that I pour into you will automatically be thrown out, because you "know it all" better.



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Posted on Thu, Sep 29, 2005 11:12


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It is impossible to shift your consciousness outside of your body or brain as if it is a thing.



Why is it impossible Robotic? It's not like it is made of solid matter!

  


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Posted on Thu, Sep 29, 2005 09:59


robotic123_74 write:
It is impossible to shift your consciousness outside of your body or brain as if it is a thing. Uri Geller was a fake. It was a trick. There is no such thing as telekinesis.



I know from your other posts that you find great comfort in your stubborn disbelief in all things metaphysical.
Whatever gets you to sleep soundly at night is fine with me. But other people (like me) have different experiences - - experiences that are completely "real" - - which lead them to conclude that so-called "reality" is in fact a pretty shifty thing. (neurologists find the whole problem of human consciousness quite fascinating - - and so do I!)

The ability to move physical objects with the mind (telekenesis) and the ability to shift consciousness are two completely different things. I never claimed to be telekenetic.

(although my ex-boyfriend's grandfather and aunt could bend spoons with their minds, which was pretty cool, I never considered the skill useful . . . it was just a parlor trick. If you really needed a bent-up spoon, why not just bend it with your hands?)

Expanding conciousness beyond the confines of the physical body is a completely different process.



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Posted on Thu, Sep 29, 2005 09:44

It is impossible to shift your consciousness outside of your body or brain as if it is a thing. Uri Geller was a fake. It was a trick. There is no such thing as telekinesis.



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Posted on Thu, Sep 29, 2005 09:38

I don't know what was happening in your apartment but there are no such things as ghosts and no such things as haunted houses.



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Posted on Thu, Sep 29, 2005 09:35

Conscience and consciousness is not the same thing. Your conscience tells you right from wrong, it is a learned thing. Consciousness is your sense that you and the world around you exists.



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Posted on Thu, Sep 29, 2005 09:31

The title of this thread is consciousness.

I agree that we do have it. As far as I know no one can explain it. For myself I have a gut understanding of what it means. The mind is a function of the brain, not the only function, but one. Without a mind there would be no consciousness. It is up there in my head someplace.

I am 75 years old, I remember when I became conscious that I was alive on this planet. I was about three or four years old and we lived out in the country. It was about the year 1932 or 1933. I remember seeing a little dust devil in some dirt automobile or wagon tracks. It was about as tall as me. I think I understood it about as well then as I do now. I don't know how I could have done that unless someone had previously explained it to me but I don't remember that. It was like waking up from a good nights sleep and the sun was shining in a clear blue sky with a few little white clouds, a beautiful day, and I realized I was here and alive on this earth. Like waking up from a dreamless sleep.

I guess that my three or four year old brain had matured to the point where I could have that concept. It was a beautiful world I had landed on.

I sometimes wonder if animals have any concept at all that they are alive. They seem to know when to run from death. Maybe they do. Most of them love to be petted. I have had dogs that if they had one more brain cell I think they could have talked. Just the other day I was trying to trap a mouse and she avoided the traps with amazing dexterity. I watched her do it.
Elephants will help a calf that is not their own and manipulate elephant bones with their trunks as if they somehow understand death of one of their own or they are at least wondering about it. Then there was that female chimp that picked up that kid that had somehow fallen into the moat at the Chicago zoo and took it to a door...



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Posted on Thu, Sep 29, 2005 09:27

I consider the questions to be pointless.

I am who I am. I am a man and I know my name.

I know where I came from. I came from my mother and my father. I am the last link in a long line of evolution except my kids who I hope will provide me with grandchildren and so on.

The atoms, molecules and stuff of our bodies came from elements that were created in supernovas the stuff of which collected into the sun and planets.

The supernovas were huge stars that burned out their fuel after just a few million years unlike our sun which has lived some 5 billion years and can be expected to live some 5 billion more years but it will not go supernova it wiil go red giant and the core will shrink to a white dwarf then to a black cinder.

It all came from the Big Bang which happened some 14 billion years ago. No one knows or can even guess what happened before that.

However I think that the stuff of the universe was always here in some form or another, that there was no real beginning, that cause and effect always existed so that the existence of the universe is the only thing that was never caused. If the universe did come from absolutely nothing then it still was not caused because if there was anything at all there to cause it we are back to the previous situation.

The answer to why I am here has to do with all the particles and forces that have acted upon all the particles of which I am made. There is no reason out yonder in the future however far or close you may consider for my being here. The reasons are all in the past right up to the very present.



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Posted on Thu, Sep 29, 2005 08:58

It may have some drawbacks to reveal remote viewing talents in a forum. Not only might that scare a few people, but also make others envious. Still others might think that it's only bragging.

Personally, I think its best if some of lifes mysteries are kept secret. That can make it a lot more fun. Uri Geller had an extreme lot of resistance due to all sorts of people being envious of his talents. I may have some of those talents myself but never ask me about them, because all you'll ever get is a mischievious twinkle in my eyes.



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Posted on Thu, Sep 29, 2005 08:34

Hmm. So called "reality" is an interesting, rather mysterious thing, very much shaped by what we call "conscious awareness."

We think it's stuck inside our brains, but it's not. Some folks can shift conscious awareness outside their bodies through a lot of hard work. Others are born with this ability.

Anyone else out there (besides me) who can move her conscious awareness outside of their bodies; i.e., "see" from different vantage points?

Comes in really handy when I lose my keys . . ..



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Posted on Thu, Sep 29, 2005 00:55

Questioning oneself is not necessarily just pointless. Consider that someone else gave you your name when you were born and you never had a choice. Almost all of our opinions are formed by the attitudes of other people. Even most emotions are learned processes from family and friends. In that sense it would mean that there is no real "I", just a mixture of everyone else in ourselves and that what really does consist of a true "I" is so small that it is buried under everyone elses part inside of ourselves.



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Posted on Fri, May 06, 2005 00:56

I have often wondered about this subject when I 'faint' or become unconscious under general anaesthetics or in deep sleep..where is that conscience, is there a different conscious awareness at work?...I use to think that when I faint, I could see bright lights, as though one is going towards heaven..
before you become conscious again.

I once lived in a haunted apartment for 4 years..I was constantly being 'disturbed ' in my sleep in bed..like someone would strangle me and I will be gasping for breath, it happened constantly , at least 3 times a week, to the point that I would be quite afraid of going to bed.., the light in my bathroom used to go off on it s own and the most apparent apparition was when I saw the door knob to the bathroom started turning on its own ..so what sort of consciousness did possess me to see these things? I know I was not imagining them because my late husband later confirmed he felt the same and we also found out when we moved out that it was indeed a haunted place..



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