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Posted on Sat, Oct 22, 2005 07:53

If anyone's been following the news, don't you think someone could have diagnosed the teenager who killed Pamela Vitale with some kind of mental or personality disorder?
If anyone's been following the news, don't you think someone could have diagnosed the teenager who killed Pamela Vitale with some kind of mental or personality disorder?



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Posted on Mon, Oct 10, 2005 04:56

Jointhe journey. I did not resd your profile but you have a lot of insight in physcological areas. Are you a psychologist?



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Posted on Fri, Oct 07, 2005 07:14

jointhejourney, good point! It's going to be crazy literally in here for the holidays! Lonely people are already on this forum and the holidays make people lonelier. Unsnaggledaggle, what an interesting topic. I bet someone could and has written a thesis on how the Amish cope without medicines on matters of mental health.



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Posted on Wed, Oct 05, 2005 21:54

I think many of the posters on these foroms have borderline personality disorders. Right now several trolls who are slandering ScrippsRanchMel must have something wrong with them to create such havoc and for no reason!



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Posted on Tue, Oct 04, 2005 23:38

It sad but a fact that there is mental depression, and it has to do with how people handle situations, most familys have one person that is somewhat crazy or indifferent. I find that they crave attention for one reason or another and so the doctors give them medication to handle the situation instead of dealing with the problem. In some cases it is needed because some people cannot cope with reality be it for example a death of a love one that is not expected however it is the coping skill of life, and one is taught from other people in their lives. So is life, and we have this in our world. Funny thing the Amish people handle this situation amongst themself and I wonder if they drug them up????



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Posted on Thu, Sep 22, 2005 20:33

My sister committed suicide when she was 33. She was a veterinarian so she had a good job and was well educated. She was pretty. She looked like Elizabeth Taylor when Liz was young and pretty. She never exhibited any signs of outward depression ever. It was a shock. A lot of people commented that they thought I would do it but not my sister. I guess I am much stronger than people think. I believe mental illness is an illness and you either have it or you don't.



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Posted on Wed, Sep 14, 2005 03:56

So just please keep in mind that the over all elation, mania and work gnerated from my manic state resulted in a hugely positive outcome; a theory in which makes heaven existance upon earth. Each week I compile more evidence to help in compiling an eventual book but the most incredible divine messaging came to me while in my manic stage. For instances, messages came so fast that I could barely write them down and fear i've lost some of high importance. It's ok though, I feel as if I was enlightened, or touched, and perhaps to help explain this to society in a more believable way, symptoms of Bi-polar were placed upon me.

One of the attributes that comes with bipolar states of Mania is the feeling of invincibility, or having grandiose illusions of power. ANd these feelings can be so strong it is said to have a stronger affect than intravenous use of heroin. Imagine.

Well, I found a great list of bi-polards here that have went public. Its curable. No worries.

Enjoy!

Buzz Aldrin, astronaut
Lionel Aldridge
Hans Christian Andersen, writer
Ned Beatty, actor
Robert Boorstin, writer, assistant to Pres. Clinton,
Arthur Benson, writer
E F Benson, writer
William Blake (1757-1827), poet
Ralph Blakelock, artist
Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821), general
Tadeusz Borowski
Art Buchwald, writer, humorist
Tim Burton, artist, movie director
Robert Campeau, financier (Canada)
Drew Carey, actor
Jim Carrey, actor
D Cavett, writer, media personality
C.E. Chaffin, writer, poet
Agatha Christie, mystery writer
Winston Churchill, 1874-1965- British Prm Mnstr
John Clare, poet
Rosemary Clooney, singer
Garnet Coleman, legislator (Texas)
Francis Ford Coppola, director
Patricia Cornwell, writer


Richard Dadd
John Daly, athlete (golf)
John Davidson, poet
Edward Dayes, artist
Ray Davies, musician
Emily Dikkkkkinson
Kitty Dukakis, former First Lady of Massachusetts
Patty Duke (Anna Duke Pearce), actor, writer
Thomas Eagleton, lawyer, former U.S. Senator
T S Eliot, poet
Ralph Waldo Emerson, essayist
Robert Evans, film producer
Carrie Fisher, writer, actor
Edward FitzGerald
Robert Frost
F Scott Fitzgerald, author
Larry Flynt, magazine publisher
Connie Francis, actor, musician
Sigmund Freud, physician
Cary Grant, actor
Kaye Gibbons, writer
Shecky Greene, comedian, actor
Linda Hamilton, actor
Kristin Hersh, musician
Victor Hugo, poet

Jack London, author
Robert Lowell, poet
Marilyn Monroe, actress
Mozart, composer
Jay Marvin, radio personality, writer
Kevin McDonald, comedian, actor
Kristy McNichol, actor
Dimitri Mihalas, scientist

Kate Millett, writer, artist
Spike Milligan, comic actor, writer
John Mulheren, financier (U.S.)
Robert Munsch, writer
Napoleon, general
Ilie Nastase, athlete (tennis), politician
Isaac Newton, scientist
Margo Orum, writer
Nicola Pagett, actor
J C Penney
Plato, philosopher, according to Aristotle
Edgar Allen Poe, author
Jimmie Piersall, athlete, sports announcer
Charley Pride, musician
Mac Rebennack (Dr. John), musician
Jeannie C. Riley, musician
Phil Graham, owner, Washington Post
Graham Greene, writer
Peter Gregg, team owner and manager, race car driver
Abbie Hoffman, writer, political activist
Lynn Rivers, U.S. Congress
Francesco Scavullo, artist, photographer
Lori Schiller, writer, educator
Frances Sherwood, writer
Scott Simmie, writer, journalist
Alonzo Spellman, athlete (football)
Muffin Spencer-Devlin, athlete (pro golf)
Gordon Sumner (Sting), musician, composer
St Francis
St John
St Theresa
Rod Steiger, film maker
Robert Louis Stevenson
Liz Taylor, actor
J.M.W. Turner
Mark Twain, author


Alfred, Lord Tennyson, poet
Ted Turner, entrepreneur, media giant
Jean-Claude Van Damme, athlete, actor
Vincent van Gogh
Mark Vonnegut, doctor, writer
Sol Wachtler, judge, writer
Tom Waits, musician, composer
Walt Whitman, poet
Tennessee Williams, author
Brian Wilson, musician (Beach Boys), composer, arranger
Jonathan Winters, comedian, actor, writer, artist
Luther Wright, athlete (basketball)
Margot Kidder, actor
Robert E Lee, soldier
Bill Liechtenstein, producer (TV & radio)
Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865), US President
Daniel Johnston, musician
Samuel Johnson, poet
Burgess Meredith, 1908-1997, actor, director
Kay Redfield Jamison, psychologist, writer



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Posted on Tue, Sep 13, 2005 17:24

Steve, I think that it varies frm doc to doc and factors such as how many patients the doc already has on schedule, and of course whether or not high levels of negativity and/or even physical abuse might come from the patient.

In my case I was very much at peace with myself and all around me, after all I had founded a theory in which stated the Heaven was on Earth.

One thing I forgot to add.... these types are absolutely incredible lovers!!! Can you attest to her being a great lover Steve?

Scott


I dated a woman with Borderline Personality Disorder. What a challenging experience. I've read that this is a very difficult disorder to diagnose and that the patients are so challenging to deal with that some psychologists are reluctant to take them as patients. Has anyone else had a similar experience?



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Posted on Tue, Sep 13, 2005 10:52

I dated a woman with Borderline Personality Disorder. What a challenging experience. I've read that this is a very difficult disorder to diagnose and that the patients are so challenging to deal with that some psychologists are reluctant to take them as patients. Has anyone else had a similar experience?



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Posted on Thu, Aug 25, 2005 13:58

Thanks for posting your experiences Scott. There is a lot of good information and experience in your post and I will have to read it again to get it all. I am sure the post will help others, and again, thanks.

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Posted on Thu, Aug 25, 2005 04:17

Caliwebman: I browsed your posts, and as usual, i find courageous that you can speak up of your hell experience, and how you try to get out if it...I have a different way of thinking these very painful sufferings (even if pleasurable in the highs, they are coming out from a suffering foundation as maybe a defense of something against it). I am answering because you are searching to understand more...if I understood well, my english is not so good sometimes...So what follows, do not go with the usual flow of common treatments...but it can be really useful...
It exists a clinical orientation that studies more deeply these deep sufferings...created after the 2WW...studying it back on 2, 3 or more generations....It explains why is so difficult to work on oneself addictions, why choosing even this or that type of addiction...all these elements can find a sens...and ultimately the sens of why one chooses this or that type of behaviour during the hights or the downs....as if we are haunted by something we do not understand....and act on it...
If you like to know more...I would be glad to tell you...



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Posted on Wed, Aug 24, 2005 04:55

Continued... At the hospital they forced medications upon me as per was the only way that I would get out of there. I kept asking why and until day 3 arrived didnt know why. There I was sitting in a room with two psychologists, a psychiatrist and a few medical type doctors. The senior level gentlman said to me, "You know why you are here right Scott?" I said sure, I suffer from some extent of PTSD as defined in the DSM IV guidelines, I may show some signs of Narcisism and you are going to tell me that I am BiPolar. I followed up by stating that I could apply the DSM IV Guidelines of BP II to our entire nation as depressed and disfunctional as it is. This got smiles from the majority however they were not pleased with my rebelious stance on meds.

I asked what type of meds will you place me on? They immediately stated my worse nightmare, lithium. We debated hard about this choice of meds but it came down to being the only way I was getting out of the funny farm was if I took meds. So I started taking them, and mind you with terrible side effects. I grabbed the DSM Book, and essentially raided the Psychiatrists office of all his books on the disorder and for the next few days I launched myself into this newly found friend I had come across called BP-1.

After completing crash course cram courses in just days concerning all the different disorders I could easily see that I had shown the potential for having Paranoia and a number of other traits. ok, disorders as described in the varying books. This was not good.

Bottom line is that I knew that I had to follow these doctors orders, take my meds and get out of there as soon as possible. Once completed I would head direclty to the VA Hospital and demand that they start me on the latest meds for bipolors and PTSDers.

At the VA hospital I was greeted with arms wide opened. It was as if they had known what I was after all along. I wasn't after maintaining a BP high, I wasn't after a run of crime, I was after the fact that we, as a human race, could make earth a much more heavenly realm. This may sound a bit heavy but it is through democracy that we will accomplish a more heavenly planet and this push for democracy will mean war and the cost and loss of life.

The VA Immediaetly started me on the latest and greatest meds available and to keep things in check I also went under the care of a master of the VA and psychiatrist who would monitor me all the way back to normalacy, if you believe "normal" is achievable that is.

I dumped myself into self education of BiPolar, reading endlesly about the most common mistakes with BP's; that is once a BP feels better from their meds they think that they are just fine and no longer need the meds, hence they come off the meds, and the highs and lows come back essentially hammering the BP to the floor or worse the hospital again.

I honed in on the keys to success which oddly enough weren't a far cry from what I had gleaned off of this higher power of messaging I was given; that was to be in tune with what I called R.E.D.S. which stands for Rest, Excercise, Diet, and Spirituality.

Watching out for triggers such as job loss, relationship issues, or other stressors in which can send a BP into a lumbering low or incredible high.

Keeping in mind that it takes sometimes up to several years to find the right combination of meds for a BP this can be a very disabilitating disorder initially. For instance, it took two psychiatrists, a psychologist, two MD's and several other counsels to finally find the correct combination for me, this took months, and even today I am not sure that this is the best group of meds.

Because stabilization took months for me and I was largely in the blind to the disorder early on I pulled the A-Typical BP action; went on spending sprees, limo drives, trips, vacations, bought toys and essentially peed away my entire 401k, retirement, lost a vehicle, lost my house, went bankrupt and the list goes on. I was givnig a lot during this period too. Giving to the poor and needy and helping out the homeless too. I based my spending on the fact that I believed that I had ventured upon a theory that would eventually change the face of this planet. I mean after all, aren't most religions shooting for heaven? Aren't we all wishing for Nirvana upon us and seeking paradise? And us, the great America, standing tall to deliver on becoming the next Great Empire. Creating a more heavenly planet was not accomplished by past empires, rather they all crumbled; Rome, Greece and the Egyptians? Ah yes, I stronly believed that I would be seeing checks roll in from MI soon that would fund me as I chase the highs of impact writing for the cause of bringing humanity together for the same cause.

So, I am now stable. I take a combo of meds which seem to work pretty well though there are minor hiccups now and then. I dont stop my meds, I watch my rest, sleep, diet, food intake, excercise and spiritual connectivity. I look for triggers, not that I am on edge rather I am on alert to defend against BP taking over my life. I have found alternative ways of coping with stress, have attended several PTSD National Programs, Learned more in psychology within the realm of anger management and have kept close ties with those whom I have shared the war experience with. Though we proudly finished up the contract with MI while performing some very dynamic deliverables the contract ended and thus after a good break from the military I am back on contract with the TRAC group, working with systems and soldiers 10 to 15 years in advance of their time.

Spending sprees I have heard can just crush a BP and their family and its members. Fortuanely for some people they can afford it where as in other cases some people cannot. In a manic state we talk alot, are the star of the party often bringing home the laughter of the party and really being a person that everyone wishes to be around really. That's what also makes this disorder so difficult is that the highs are SO GOOD. Speaking to a chronic Heroin user who was BP he said that he has had BP Highs that have literally dwarfed the buzz he has attained from intraveniously shooting heroin. Key point here is imagine that if a BP High is that good, why wouldnt anyone not want to be on a BP high?

In my case I felt that I have used the BP High to spark the findings of a very plausible and attainable goal; yes, Heaven on Earth.

In a manic episode, the following symptoms are present for at least
1 week:

needing little sleep yet having great amounts of energy

talking so fast that others cannot keep up with the thought pattern

having racing thoughts

being so easily distracted that their attention shifts between many topics in just a few minutes

having an inflated feeling of power, greatness, or importance

doing reckless things without concern about possible bad consequences (eg, spending too much money, engaging in inappropriate sexual activity, or making foolish business investments)

If you are interested in learning any more from my experiences with PTSD and BP-I and BP-II just ask me and I will do my best to assist. With that said I am sure that you all may have further interest in my diologue of writings concerning the theory of Heaven on Earth. I have made much of the findings and writings publicly available however it appears that I cannot share a URL here so I will try to do it this way. My writings can be found at my website and my website is myname, first and last with a DOTCOM. Oh, and take out the Y in scotty, so it's scottbruno followed by a COM. If you still cannot get to my site try your best to email me and I will get you the site.

Lastly, I realize that this was a lengthy write up of the entire story of my BP encounter. I hope that it hasn't been too too deep for you all, and I also hope that I have shared in such a a way that atleast someone will be touched in such a way that you will find a difference of everlasting goodness within your life. If I can reach this goal, I have hit my target. In essence, if I can provide the steps it will take for us to begin our venture into bringing Heaven upon Earth, and it is a solid theory supported by fact, faith, belief tolerance and people, we will have moved many steps closer to the Heavens in which await us.

Much Peace and Love to all.

A Gentle Warrior.

Scott Bruno



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Posted on Wed, Aug 24, 2005 03:42

wwwww123 write:
If anyone has any experience with a bi-polar (manic depressant), I would love to have them describe them how they act in manic stage. (ie shoping sprees, high energy, etc.)

Some clinical type of information on narsistic, or real life experinces with borderline personality disorder person would also be informative.

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I was diagnosed BiPolar I (1) while being in a manic phase in 2003. I will share with you what happened in my case from an educated standpoint before, during and after diagnosis.

I for the most part have led a very good life, growing up in a middle class family in the Silicon Valley, no parental abuse, no problems with brothers or sisters and there were 5 of us, and no real big traumatic issues growing up for the most part.

From 1988-1991 I served in the U.S. Army's 1st Armored Division where I fought the end of the Cold War, then listened to Pink Floyd live sing "tear down the Wall" in Berlin as the wall came tumbling down; Mission accomplished.

Not weeks passed by and we were getting briefs to march order and prepare to head into Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq which would amount to become Desert Shield and then Desert Storm. I fought on the front lines of the Battle of Medina Ridge where I earned three (3) Bronze Service Stars and several other medals from the varying countries as well as the U.S. Army. The war was a clean one if you could ever call war clean.

Years later I was having troubles with sleep, anxiety and other symptoms that were typical of someone suffering from PTSD or Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. I went to the Veterans Admin hospital but they werent up to speed on these ailments yet and inturn turned their backs on me.

Years passed and in 2003 I found myself under a contract with the US Army's Military Intelligence Command Center.

It was a normal day working from a home base and all when all of a sudden I captured a 13 minute video depicting the Jessica Lynch situation. The video showed our fellow soldiers shot to death, point blank between the eyes, limbs ripped off and bodies piled on the floor. The clip also showed the inside of the building they were in, the outside of the buildings, vehicles parked on the exterior, other buildings and what amounted to be prime intelligence to attaining a location to where this had all taken place. There was no doubt in my mind that we had to find this location, somewhere in Iraq, as soon as possible. There could be survivors and there were definately bodies to snatch and grab in order to bring home to their survivors.

The video was difficult to swallow and went quite fast the first time through as I was over come by adrenaline. To gain some sense of strength for what I was about to do I right away called a fellow prior Delta Force friend of mind and asked him to watch it. He, like I, were in total angered shock. He was able to comfort me just enough so that I could get the video into the right hands without wasting anymore time. Or so I thought.

I called my immediate contact at the Pentagon and specifically asked him if he could handle seeing such atrocities and he confirmed he could. My contact watched the video and was silent until the end when he lost his baring as a soldier and a high ranking officer and said, "SHISA!" He then followed it up by saying "well, its closing time here, I need to go home to eat and I will deal with this in the morning". And hung up.

My blood boiled. Here was a pencil pusher in an office, perhaps in shock, delaying getting prime intel to the right folks in order to potentially save now living survivors and gather bodies. He was heading home to EAT!?!?!?@#$

Things got intensley blurry from here on out this day. My girlfriend, who was working PT on the Intel job with me would not give me space when I dearly needed space and I ended up slapping her. This was way wrong of me and there was no excuse for me to do such a thing. As I was I was already upset earlier in the week when I found out that she was abused as a child growing up by her father, who was a poilce officer. And here I had no tolerance for abuse yet I was abusive. I ended up racing off to purchase some Nitrous Oxide, a bottle of booze and some pot.

I returned to my house and just started numbing myself beyond control. I didnt want to think about who might have been being killed right that second when I had the goods to stop it from happening. In a gloomy, numbed out state my girlfriend returned and this time she wanted to fight. I was peaceful in asking her for space again, and even went so far as to ask for several timeouts, but nothing seemed to work for the moment.

I ended up telling her that she had no place in my life at that moment and that she had better leave. She threatened to call the police on me and that's when things got really bad. I theatened to shoot everyone essentially an dvowed to leave the first police officer dead in the streets. She left my house.

Within moments I got the video distributed to my Delta Force friends and hunkered down for what was going to play out as a final shootout for me if I wasnt going to get this video in the right hands. A close friend of mine stated that he would see to it that the right contact got the video ASAP and directed me to lay down my arms and surrender. So I did.

The video was issued to the correct command and snatch and grab group and Jessica Lynch, amongst others, were shortly there after nabbed out of harms way. I think we recovered 12 dead, :(.

Jailed, tired, confused, lost and blurry I didnt know what to expect with several accounts coming against me. The following morning I was bailed out by my girlfriend.

What occured in the weeks following was a manic high that I nor Intel will ever forget. I founded a theory that at the very basis stated that peace would have to overcome war on this planet. What's this? Scott, a decorated war veteran turning soft and green? I began to write poetry and music, and then what is summing up to be a life long job; the writing of a theory I founded called, "Heaven on Earth". That's right, I founded a theory that stated Heaven was on Earth. I supported this theory with multiple steps it would take to hand hold such a coming upon our planet and once I had a somewhat clear outline I shared it.

It was during a meeting with some very high level folks in the military and civilian sector that I strayed away from the scope of our delivery and went into a one and a half hour delivery of this newly founded theory. Military Intel, the brass, the secretaries and all those involved did not stop me rather they braced themselves and just listened. In some cases I suppose some of the information I suggested that would need to happen was so pleasant as per the outcome that it brought about hysterical laughter from throughout the room. Of course some of it, as early as the information was coming to me, was rogue still so it came across as being very manic and under developed. At the end of this meeting the GG Level Officer called my girlfriend and said that they were worried that Scott was suffering from PTSD. Close they were however how far off they may have been?

Due to some of the downright scary elements of disclosure I offered during this meeting MI felt that it would be best if we took a break from our contract and, because some meeting attendees were actually scared, they asked that their duty station (where they worked) location be changed.

In the weeks that followed I hit highs that were so incredibly high that it was better than any drug you could imagine. And I wasnt taking anything. I wrote hard, scribbled, drew, kept writing and re-writing as these messages kept coming to me at an overwhelming rate that even at my rate of movement it was still challenging for me to capture everything I was being exposed too. I didn't question where all of these messages were coming from, I just knew in my heart that the messages were of goodness and that there was obviously some very high level power, neutral in love and giving in soulship whom was offering these powerful and true messages.

I had run into a road block for some reason and decided that I needed to cleanse myself. I needed to get out of the city and pay attention to myself and then again focus on this very powerful theory.

As I sped towards the Sierra Nevada's, where my parents owned a cabin, I strongly felt that this would be my sanctuary for me to relax, cleanse and re-group. I stopped at several stores where I picked up very strange items such as Burt's bees wax products, Oat laced soaps, bodily cleaning agents made out of all natural ingredients and body washes and bubble baths, of course, all natural. I Also stopped in the grocery stores and picked up a plethora of green teas, ginko, and many drinks that were for calming and flushing and cleansing ones body and soul. I didnt really know what I was doing until I got to the cabin when indeed it unfolded that I was clearly going into a cleansing process of some sorts. I bathed for hours while listening to Bach in the bath. I soaked until I was a prune. While using all the best ingredients nature had to offer I was cleansing myself though not even sure of what.

Then, after a few days of cleansing and writing paranoia kicked in. I had this terrible feeling that Scott Pederson (the bastard who killed his wife Lacy and stillborn) was in the area of the cabin. I was scared. Yeah, a guy with bronze service stars and terrosist threats scared of this wife /baby killer? Something was obviously not right. But the feeling was sooo strong. It felt like he was coming to get me! I called 911, moved myself with a shotgun to the center of the house and waited for the police.

When the police finally arrived they hand cuffed me and placed me in the back of the car and said that I was going to the hospital. I wa...



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Posted on Mon, Aug 01, 2005 22:55

You're welcome...I think ( i did not try it) you can type the name of the movie, maybe there could be some information of how to get to see it...I prevent you, there is some humour there...also...and If I remember an interview with Naom Chomsky...among others...



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Posted on Mon, Aug 01, 2005 21:17

I will try to remember to see the movie if I can find a copy. Thanks



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Posted on Sun, Jul 31, 2005 15:47

Mister WWWWW123, your last posts make me think at the movie (canadian) The Corporation, same same "diagnosis"...

  


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Posted on Sun, Jul 31, 2005 15:23

Rakhee, I find very courageous of you to discribe so genuinely, sincerely your experience here, and you even, in my opinion, do the job that many health professionals do not do: inform people about these issues...in order to demistify the disorders....and especially that there is hope for getting better...from what was thought initially as impossible to do

  


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Posted on Wed, Jul 20, 2005 23:10

Even when it seems the world has you by the tail --

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Posted on Wed, Jul 20, 2005 22:18

Rakhee Roy

I am so happy things are better for you now. Keep up the good work, I know its hard, but do it.



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Posted on Wed, Jul 20, 2005 17:45

Hey Cat your ex must be related to my ex. My ex has a very strong passive/aggressive personality. Dormant on responsibility so that it will not be his fault and then when something goes wrong can blame it on everyone else. He also has an addictive personality - if he isn't able to feed one - gambling he will feed the other - drinking. Someone actually came up to me after we separated and said "you know I think he is bi-polar". There is also a fine line in a relationship when you can no longer "try" to help someone because ultimately the decision always rests with the individual.



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