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Posted on Sat, Jun 11, 2005 17:47

Did I mention being held captive by this crazy guy back in January of this year?? I thought i did but maybe not.. Anyway.... Glad to have gotten out of it alive.... I should write a book...Hi all!!



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Posted on Tue, May 31, 2005 22:51

Hello Garbinocat- the personalities are important, as they help the person to deal with the big fears...or with some other emotions.../ for the talking cure, usually the professionals who do it, do not prescribe medication...those who prescribe it are psychiatrists and doctors.../ ans finally, what is most important, is not the title of the professional, is the competence to listen to the suffering of the individual and to help him/her....

  


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Posted on Wed, May 18, 2005 13:15

PhD cannot prescribe meds.
Only a MD.



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Posted on Mon, May 16, 2005 22:58

Hello Mr. WWW...I am curious on which web you could ge the definitions...I would say that PsyD means doctor in psychoanalysis which is very different of a Psychologist (who can also be a PsyD, as psychiatrists can be)...there are tons of orientations in Psychology, as in psychoanalysis, but their work is rather different....



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Posted on Mon, May 16, 2005 22:47

Mr Cub, (following my post 13th) thank you, : that the husband "endured" so many years his ill spouse is not "adequate" help, is hell if I can say this, especially if they had children, the husband had to be given support by specialized people in this illness to inform him how to deal with all this and learn how to cope (there are specific interventions that exist). And also especially give help to the kids...(how many years have they witnesses their momy's crises?? this is my big question).
As for the crisis repeating an "addiction", I would say, that we don't know what is repeated (it can be manyt things), only the ill lady can say... if she would get out 1 day of her state of mind. typically (but might be not known by the public, I dont Know), in a progressive therapeutical environment who respects the path of the ill person, there can be easily 3 big crisis approx...that could be intensively accompagnied...bey verbalizing them....Ideally...this could be the first step...then, everybody, especially the lady...is recomended therapy long term...or until she feels better...but in anycase...these things...have deep roots...

  


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Posted on Mon, May 16, 2005 17:41

An excellent lesson for all Moon, thanks for sharing.

  


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Posted on Mon, May 16, 2005 10:47

A Chinese Fable ~

A water bearer in China had two large pots, each hung on the ends of a pole which he carried across his neck.

One pot had a crack in it, while the other pot was perfect and always delivered a full portion of water.

At the end of the long walk from the stream to the house, the cracked pot arrived only half full.

For a full two years this went on daily, with the bearer delivering only one and a half pots full of water to his house.

Of course, the perfect pot was proud of its accomplishments, perfect for which it was made.

But the poor cracked pot was ashamed of its own imperfection, and miserable that it was able to accomplish only half of what it had been made to do.

After 2 years of what it perceived to be a bitter failure, it spoke to the water bearer one day by the stream...

I am ashamed of myself, because this crack in my side causes water to leak out all the way back to your house.

The bearer said to the pot, "Did you notice that there were flowers only on your side of the path, but not on the other pot's side?

That's because I have always known about your flaw, and I planted flower seeds on your side of the path.. Every day while we walk back, you've watered them. For two years I have been able to pick these beautiful flowers to decorate the table. Without you being just the way you are, there would not be this beauty to grace the house."

Moral:

Each of us has our own unique flaws. We're all cracked pots. But it's the cracks and flaws we each have that make our lives together so very interesting and rewarding.

You should accept each person for what they are, and look for the good in them and be thankful.

Blessings upon all my crackpot friends and relatives. :~)

ps - Too bad he was deleted...



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Posted on Sun, May 15, 2005 17:20

Bobby has alsways been nice to me. He may have been inappropriate at times, but I am not perfect so everyone deserves a second chance. I never reported you Bobby.



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Posted on Sun, May 15, 2005 13:17


crabtrap write:

1HotMama write:

Cub39 write:
There is something inherently funny about seeing the title Personality Disorders with joecajun/bobbybo listed next to it!



HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Absolutely! I expected to see KissesKisses in here though. ;-)

excuse mehot mama butistraightened that out with cub already, it is taken care of no personality dis order here. sorry, is that your car iknow a fellow down here who buys porches for fun, so hot mama it is ok for you to harass but not others you get all mad?



You're a riot, bobby, I must admit... ;)And I must say that you've improved yourself a lot since you came into these forums. One thing I've noticed too is that you don't provoke anyone unless provoked, and you do it in a polite way, always going "mr this" and "mr that"... lol, contrarily to SOME people on these forums. Keep up the good work, Bobby, at least you're making a real effort.

  


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Posted on Sun, May 15, 2005 01:46

from now on joecajun,,,this is your forum,,you have worked for it, you belong to it, and it is yours,, good luck and it is yours! good luck with it..

The Bomb Squad



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Posted on Sat, May 14, 2005 22:00

Definations from the web.

Psychiatrist: a licensed physician (MD or DO) who specializes in the evaluation, diagnosis, and treatment of mental disorders. Their medical and psychiatric training prepares them to treat adults and children either individually, as part of and involving the family unit, and/or in a group setting. Psychiatrists can prescribe medications, if needed.
more:
Psychiatrists are board certified as specialists in their field. Physicians wishing to become board certified psychiatrists will practice as residents for four years, learning the specialty before taking the psychiatry boards. While any physician may prescribe the medications used to treat various forms of mental illness, psychiatrists are more extensively trained


Psychologist - a licensed mental health professional (Ph.D. or Psy.D.) who specializes in the evaluation, diagnosis, and treatment of mental disorders. Training prepares clinical psychologists to treat adults and children either individually, as part of and involving the family unit, and/or in a group setting.



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Posted on Fri, May 13, 2005 23:56

Ideally, (and sorry for my english), there is a need of a multidisciplinary followup around the ill person, and adequate followup after a crisis like that
: psychiatry, psychosocial work (to work the bound with the family and children), m?dication and psychotherapy, all toghether...Usually, they repeat something of a trauma while in crisis (and a crisis is not always bad, if adequatelly treated). I dont know if it was a good thing to send her back or "ship" her in her family (maybe where the trauma began...as a child, etc.) in addition to the problem that her family didin't want to keep her; also ideally, something might have happened in her own family that got her ill, to the point not to trust her husband for example to talk about her emotional situation, or her husband to notice long before something was going wrong...(to prevent)...there are possibilities...but getting well informed is important...not waiting till the last minute...And finally...a person canot be treated if she does not want to...; and, for stopping the medication, this is a usual pattern ill people try...and a process (of learning by themselves that if they stop their medication, they will get ill)...and not to fear...but, they have to have the adequate support, a progressive one, at their path, because they are very fragile...

  


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Posted on Fri, May 13, 2005 20:16

Cub "I think this is dead-on doll. Addiction transfer is a real phenomenon."
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Agree, this is quite common, especially when the problem is alcohol or drugs. Violence or danger or even a arguement can also be a substitute way to get a "high".

wwwww



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Posted on Fri, May 13, 2005 16:25

Scope of the problem, taken from mentalhealth. com web site
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In Developed Countries, 8 of the 10 Leading Causes of Disability Are Mental Illnesses

The massive Global Burden Of Disease study conducted by the World Health Organization, the World Bank, and Harvard University measured the leading causes of disability (counting lost years of healthy life). In developed countries, the ten leading causes of lost years of healthy life at ages 15-44 were: (1) Major Depressive Disorder, (2) Alcohol Use, (3) Road Traffic Accidents, (4) Schizophrenia, (5) Self-Inflicted Injuries, (6) Bipolar Disorder, (7) Drug Use, (8) Obsessive-Compulsive Disorders, (9) Osteoarthritis, (10) Violence. "The Global Burden Of Disease" by C.J.L. Murray and A.D. Lopez, World Health Organization, 1996, Table 5.4 page 270



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Posted on Fri, May 13, 2005 16:03

I can find a excuse to not pick up someone laying in the street to prevent the next car from running over them if I wish. I don't look for excuses, I look for ways to accomplish results.

Like individual lock boxes; not "dispensing" meds, but "witness" that they take theirs or go home. Heavens forbid, hire a company nurse for two hours per day. What is the crime if non controlled drugs are stollen? Any company that can't solve a "take your medicine" medicine problem or that doesn't do thing to help keep people healthy has bigger problems than that. We need to find solutions, and not ignore the problems.



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Posted on Fri, May 13, 2005 00:31

As far as im conserned any addict wheather he/she drinks, snorts or smokes, has a major embalance in the brain.... your best friend can become your worst enemy...



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Posted on Thu, May 12, 2005 23:53


fun4two writes:

People who are not alcoholic sometimes don't understand why an alcoholic can't just use willpower to stop drinking. Alcoholism has little to do with willpower. The individual, once addicted, has moved from a state where drug use is voluntary & controlled to one where craving, seeking, & use are no longer under the same kind of voluntary control. Alcoholics & other addicts are in the grip of a powerful "craving" or uncontrollable need for alcohol that overrides their ability to stop drinking or using. This need can be as strong as the need for food or water.



Fun, I read this with interest.

My dad was an "occasional alcoholic;" something would trigger it like meeting an old war buddy, the Christmas season, an upsetting, traumatic experience, etc. and be hooked. He'd quit for months & then show up at home one night inebriated & without the car or take a week off work to sleep every day, fight with my mother, not come home until next morning.. He?d fight with alcoholism for weeks at a time. Then he'd wean himself off his addiction, cold turkey. Months later, it would start all over again
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When I reached 21, I partied & lived it up, celebrating my freedom & age of majority. I was a tequila girl & often came home Saturday nights staggeringly blurry-eyed. My mother was appalled & was convinced I had the same "disease" as my dad. But I was just a "party animal," only on weekends. I never did become an alcoholic like my father, even tho my family thought that was how I turned out, enjoying drinking until I was giggling. I still drink wine with a meal, but after two glasses, I'm jumping sailors in parking lots! That's not easy to do when you live 200 miles from an ocean port!

Something about alcohol made my dad addicted while it did nothing to me. I can take it or leave it unless it's Saturday night.

Two different people.



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Posted on Thu, May 12, 2005 17:55

S4U

I once had a nurse friend that was treated for manic depressent for years. She had 5 marriages before age 33 and admitted that the men were fine, that she was the problem (black, angry moods). Finally she had a neuro scan and found out that her real problem was
unnoticed epileptic seizures. Changed to epileptic meds and became ok. Neuro tests may be something everyone might ask for if depressions meds are not working very well.



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Posted on Thu, May 12, 2005 17:39


bobbyboucher15 write:

wwwww123 write:
why we opened the doors of our mental institutions and hospitals in the 80's releasing so many people into society without skills or sufficient means to cope with the world. We are seeing the effects of that choice even today and I do not fully understand the decision...maybe someone can enlighten me
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I cannot enlighten you. I cannot understand it at all. In the big cities they are sleeping under freeway bridges, in alleys, woods in the park, etc. Some are alcoholics, some just out of it. No one cares except the people running shelters, and they cannot provide medicine.
wwwww



you are too pestimissic 5w i am livin proof that this was a success



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Posted on Thu, May 12, 2005 13:46

This info. may help some US folks obtain medicine free.


New Drug Program Helps More Than 100,000 Patients in First Three Weeks
ImmuneSupport. com

04-27-2005

Program continues to help more than 5,000 patients in need each day;

Patients can call toll free at 1-888-4PPA-NOW (1-888-477-2669) or visit www. pparx. org

WASHINGTON, D.C., April 26 ? A new program that helps patients in need get prescription medicines is generating an outpouring of inquiries from patients nationwide.

In just three weeks, the Partnership for Prescription Assistance has matched more than 100,000 patients -- roughly 5,000 per day -- to patient assistance programs that meet their needs.
etc. etc.

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