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Posted on Mon, Aug 01, 2005 22:55

You're welcome...I think ( i did not try it) you can type the name of the movie, maybe there could be some information of how to get to see it...I prevent you, there is some humour there...also...and If I remember an interview with Naom Chomsky...among others...



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Posted on Mon, Aug 01, 2005 21:17

I will try to remember to see the movie if I can find a copy. Thanks



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Posted on Sun, Jul 31, 2005 15:47

Mister WWWWW123, your last posts make me think at the movie (canadian) The Corporation, same same "diagnosis"...

  


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Posted on Sun, Jul 31, 2005 15:23

Rakhee, I find very courageous of you to discribe so genuinely, sincerely your experience here, and you even, in my opinion, do the job that many health professionals do not do: inform people about these issues...in order to demistify the disorders....and especially that there is hope for getting better...from what was thought initially as impossible to do

  


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Posted on Wed, Jul 20, 2005 23:10

Even when it seems the world has you by the tail --

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Posted on Wed, Jul 20, 2005 22:18

Rakhee Roy

I am so happy things are better for you now. Keep up the good work, I know its hard, but do it.



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Posted on Wed, Jul 20, 2005 17:45

Hey Cat your ex must be related to my ex. My ex has a very strong passive/aggressive personality. Dormant on responsibility so that it will not be his fault and then when something goes wrong can blame it on everyone else. He also has an addictive personality - if he isn't able to feed one - gambling he will feed the other - drinking. Someone actually came up to me after we separated and said "you know I think he is bi-polar". There is also a fine line in a relationship when you can no longer "try" to help someone because ultimately the decision always rests with the individual.



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Posted on Wed, Jul 20, 2005 13:08

I read somewhere that the number of suicides in an area pretty well equal the number of murders in that area.

If Houston, where I live, has 450 murders per year there are some 450 suicides here also.



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Posted on Wed, Jul 20, 2005 09:40

Remember, just because you are paranoid does not mean that you are not being stalked.



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Posted on Fri, Jul 15, 2005 20:09

Dear Bonnie,
So sorry about your friends. Oprah recently did a show on post-natal depression and suicide is one of the issues there. The hormones and nutrition are apparently totally out of whack, in addition to whatever psych. issues are un-resolved. Sounds really tough. Sorry for your losses. Blondance. (Not a therapist, but a business psychologist.)



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Posted on Wed, Jul 13, 2005 23:30

continued

Hare's view is supported by two studies, including the research of British
psychologists Belinda Board and Katarina Fritzon, who administered personality
tests to 39 high-level executives and found them to be egocentric, exploitative and lacking in empathy -- in short, "successful psychopaths."

Whether this boss-as-psychopath theory is sound science is, of course,
debatable. But the folks at Fast Company have taken this serious idea and run
with it, producing an entertaining eight-page package that also includes a
goofy quiz on how to tell whether your boss is psycho -- "Does he have a
grandiose sense of self-worth?" -- and a cover portrait of J. Montgomery Burns,
the beady-eyed evil capitalist from "The Simpsons."

Best of all are the deliciously nasty mini-portraits of "Bosses From Hell," a
category that includes many of America's most famous executives, past and
present:

Ford: "Used shadowy henchmen to run
secret police' who spied on employees ... cheated on his wife with his teenage personal assistant and then had the
younger woman marry his chauffeur as a cover."

Hammer: "Bribed his way through the oil business. Laundered money for Soviet
spies. ... Then promoted himself for the Nobel Peace Prize."

Disney: "A dictatorial boss who underpaid his workers ... made anti-Semitic smears ... cooperated with Sen. Joseph McCarthy."

"Chainsaw" Al Dunlop: His divorce was granted on grounds of "extreme cruelty."
That's the characteristic that endeared him to Wall Street, which applauded
when he fired 11,000 workers at Scott Paper, then another 6,000 (half the labor force) at Sunbeam.

Andrew Fastow: "So hot-headed that he once got into a punch-out with a taxi
driver over 70 cents. Pocket change indeed compared to the $24 million of
illicit gains the Enron CFO agreed to give back when he pleaded guilty to
securities fraud."

No wonder Hare has created a test to screen potential CEOs for psychopathic
behavior before they're hired. "We screen police officers, teachers," he says. "Why not people who are going to handle billions of dollars?"

Well, Alan Deutschman, who wrote the Fast Company story, suggests one good
reason why not: Companies would use the test not to weed out psychopaths but to
hire them.

"It's easier for them to act callously and remorselessly," Deutschman writes,
"which is exactly what their backers want."



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Posted on Tue, Jul 12, 2005 23:19

Psychopaths know how to take good care of business
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By Peter Carlson
The Washington Post

July 11, 2005

WASHINGTON -- Finally, a business magazine has asked a question on many folks'
minds: "Is Your Boss a Psychopath?"

The magazine is Fast Company and its answer to that question is: Yes, your boss
might very well be a psychopath. After all, many of America's legendary titans
of industry exhibited symptoms of psychopathy -- folks such as Henry Ford,
Armand Hammer, even Walt Disney.

Psychopaths are people who are amoral, ruthless, pathologically selfish and
utterly unburdened by qualms of conscience. You find a lot of these folks in
prisons. You can also find them in corporate boardrooms, the magazine reports.

"I always said that if I wasn't studying psychopaths in prison, I'd do it at
the stock exchange," Canadian psychologist Robert Hare told Fast Company.

Hare, 71, is one of the world's foremost experts on psychopaths. He developed
the "Psychopathy Checklist," which has been used to diagnose psychopaths for 25
years, and the "P-Scan," which is widely used by police departments to screen
out psychopaths among recruits. Hare sees similarities between the psychopaths
he has studied -- Mafia hit men and sex offenders -- and the corporate crooks
behind the Enron and WorldCom scandals.

Man or monster?

"These are callous, cold-blooded individuals," he says. "They don't care that
you have thoughts and feelings. They have no sense of guilt or remorse."



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Posted on Thu, Jul 07, 2005 23:47

I certainly haven't had any luck with dealing with, or helping people with severe disorders, except for the few that I helped get on meds. Its beyond my capabilities. Denial is the biggest problem to getting help.

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Posted on Wed, Jun 29, 2005 14:39


fun4two write:

Bonnie88 write:
This must be Mad Sunday Morning syndrome..

CAtching up with Fun4..it is infectious Fun..:)...teeheeteehheee



MSMS ... interesting ... I think we could do some research ... possibly get a huge research grant ... in the states, not difficult ... and we could play like this all the time ... at the tax payer's expense ... you game?

~Smiles



all we need is infect enough people with it and be labelled with the same symptoms..we are on a roll...lol



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Posted on Wed, Jun 29, 2005 14:10


StarVoyager write:
Would someone with this particular disorder even know that they have it? Would they themselves feel the changes?

Is this the same for most disorders? Do the patienst even know they have a problem?

And if meeting someone like that for the very first time could just anyone recognise a disorder in a person if they had one?

If someone has lets say, Bi-Polar, and I didn't recognize it right off or maybe even months, but when I did and I were to say something to that person what would their normal reaction be?




Probably the normal reaction if you told someone they had a disorder would be denial and a counterattack. The hard part about helping someone is the admission that they have a problem. Some people go their whole lives without treatment or help because they will not admit that they need help.

Many disorders are not active all the time. In fact, the frequency often is used as part of the final diagnosis.

And, then some people have multiple problems - not all are always active.

It's complicated but worth learning about. I think that about 95 percent of the troubles in relationships are caused by various disorders.



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Posted on Tue, Jun 28, 2005 22:41

I belive normal people can pick up any type of illness, as well as sick people become permantly well. I belive if you have self respect you can get yourself proper help and positive tings will start to happen in your life. I dont think people should always belive what doctors say about them. From personail experince my doctor was wrong.

  


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Posted on Mon, Jun 20, 2005 14:37


wwwww123 write:
If anyone has any experience with a bi-polar (manic depressant), I would love to have them describe them how they act in manic stage. (ie shoping sprees, high energy, etc.)

Some clinical type of information on narsistic, or real life experinces with borderline personality disorder person would also be informative.

OK 5ws...I can't believe I found another interesting thread ugh...I may as well camp at my computer :(
I have had experience with this first hand grrrr My X husband...I have never been around someone like this till him...how he hid it until I said I do..I have no idea...Guess that's what I get for rushing into it! I kept telling him Im no Dr but I think you are bipolar and it can be fixed if you take meds. He can go from big ole teddy bear to a raving maniac in 1 second flat...it's the scariest thing to see and experience. They are either way up here or way down there..no middle ground. Hes a workaholic, never wrong, points blame everywhere aside himself, irresponsible w/money, rude, crude, has no respect for anyones feelings...shall I go on?



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Posted on Mon, Jun 20, 2005 09:58


StarVoyager write:
Would someone with this particular disorder even know that they have it? Would they themselves feel the changes?



Voyager, Wwwww123,

This is 123th posting in this thread and seems it's time to close it :-)

Order and read "for fun" the "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders" (American Psychiatric Association)

You may need to know all that, or at least to have an impression ... to forget and not to afraid.



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Posted on Sat, Jun 18, 2005 22:38

This must be Mad Sunday Morning syndrome..

CAtching up with Fun4..it is infectious Fun..:)...teeheeteehheee



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Posted on Tue, Jun 14, 2005 12:35

I agree



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