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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 20:40

Andy
while i think that it is admirable that u feel the need to defend your freinds, i certainly feel nothing was said to anyone of them to hurt them.. if saying "lose the sweater" can hurt someone well i think theres a lot of issues going on.. And as for the weelasy with her FU remark that was a classic comeback-- What i dont understand Andy is this-- why on earth did u spend the amount of time u did simply to try and see where i am i coming from?? that was long- i myself would not have even anyone that much time and space in my head... so it remains this way-- ignore or respond we always have choices.. i dont intentionally hurt anyone and yes typed words do not convey emotion but if u are sensitive enough to take a word that is typed by a complete stranger and allow it to twist ya -- well its because u allowed it..
now Andy i do hope i answered most of your questions.. now i have one for u

Why did u bother wasting your time with that 4 part series of questions? did u gain insight- are u completing a novel?



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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 20:40

Robert

would love to get to know you

www plentyoffish is free



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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 20:33

Let's say you go into the office and your new secretary, who you don't know well yet, comes in with an unflattering hairdoo. An outspoken, tell-it-like it is person will surely want to help her out by letting her know. But I'll bet that even if you don't say it with much tact that you at least give verbal or visual cues that you are trying to be nice. Maybe you use a soothing voice; maybe you wink or pat her on the shoulder. But if you're as successful in your profession or daily life as you say you must be at least giving these cues if you're as outspoken in real life - even if it is subconscious.

Ed i fire her but i give a gift certificate to a salon



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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 20:31

more of ED..
You and I have more in common than you might think. I too see myself as an outspoken free spirit. . I'm imagining you shopping at your grocery store. You bump your cart into the cart of one of those enormous woman in those ridiculous spandex pants you too often see that outlines all the cellulite and cameltoe. I see you telling them to put the ice cream back and get a new wardrobe. Do you do that? Boy, if you do let me know the next time you go shopping. I have a sick fascination for train wrecks.

But when I write an opinion I'd like to make it readable and persuasive. Otherwise, what's the point? You like to tell it like it is and you occasionally give unsolicited advice like me. But not the same way

Ed and posting about a woman with legs spread open is what?? readable and persuasive and unlike me? yes correct that is unlike me.

As for the fat girl in the supermarket no i say nothing to her-- she may have issues that i have no idea of-- let her eat her twinkies and work em out



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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 20:26

ok let me begin by trying to answer some of Ed's questions.. Ed who by the way stated his main reason for this site was to make fun of women who he called gold diggers? correct ed? and then decieded to park and just have fun..
Correct Ed..
ok onto your semi interogation of me

1.First, why are you posting in the forums if you don't care how people interpret you or think of you.
there are posts that i have posted where i beleive my opinion counted.. i post in forums if i have something i wanna say- which is why i pay mm dues..

moving right along to your next quesiton



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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 20:20

barbie
as i recall and have a copy of it-- u seemed to be quite amused by my comments -until it involved u-- and if i remember correctly and i do-- you very intelligent reponse was FU-- now that is what i call class..



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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 19:28

Wow Andy,I hope NY likes your post, because I sure do! :-) You know how long it takes me to compose something so perfect that is that long. An hour or more, and I must edit, re-edit, and edit a 3rd time! :-) It's work! lol

You were very tactful.



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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 18:16


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Ed
sure i accept your apology.. however, my words and how they are interpeted by others, whether they find it rude or just plain ole truth, has no impact on me. I know who i am- i know what kind of person i am.. and i dont dance around an issue - i state what i believe which is simply my opinion-- one has to simply ignore it or maybe not,, but the only changes i make in my life are for me- not for what others want or think i should.. i am not rude i am honest



OK NYCHICK,

Since I've gotten to know you though our emails let me first come to say I believe you are being honest. And I commend you for contacting me directly to settle our issues rather than blast flames like some do here. That alone deserves respect. However I'm gonna be very blunt to you in reply. It's ironic that someone outspoken like me, often criticized for violating decorum (and sometimes validly), should be giving you advice but here goes.

First, why are you posting in the forums if you don't care how people interpret you or think of you? You could sit a home and write letters to yourself I suppose and keep yourself endlessly amused. Decent people write to entertain, inform, educate and/or persuade. Troublemakers write to hurt and provoke fights. What are you trying to accomplish for your listener/reader? I'd like to think that you fancy yourself among the former group. I'll venture to say that I think you view yourself as an outspoken provocative free-spirit, perhaps a bit of an elitist above the hoy-paloy, who deigns to pass on worthwhile advice on those who should be prepared to really listen to someone of your stature. If they don't get the honest direct view that you have so kindly provided it's their problem. Sorry babe, no sale.

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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 18:15

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You and I have more in common than you might think. I too see myself as an outspoken free spirit. But when I write an opinion I'd like to make it readable and persuasive. Otherwise, what's the point? You like to tell it like it is and you occasionally give unsolicited advice like me. But not the same way. I'm imagining you shopping at your grocery store. You bump your cart into the cart of one of those enormous woman in those ridiculous spandex pants you too often see that outlines all the cellulite and cameltoe. I see you telling them to put the ice cream back and get a new wardrobe. Do you do that? Boy, if you do let me know the next time you go shopping. I have a sick fascination for train wrecks.

But here's a better example. I know you're a professional woman. Let's say you go into the office and your new secretary, who you don't know well yet, comes in with an unflattering hairdoo. An outspoken, tell-it-like it is person will surely want to help her out by letting her know. But I'll bet that even if you don't say it with much tact that you at least give verbal or visual cues that you are trying to be nice. Maybe you use a soothing voice; maybe you wink or pat her on the shoulder. But if you're as successful in your profession or daily life as you say you must be at least giving these cues if you're as outspoken in real life - even if it is subconscious.


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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 18:15

CONTINUED FROM ABOVE

My point? Studies show that 70-90% of all communication is non-verbal. This important type of communication is missing from solely written forums and therefore the intelligent writer should take this into consideration. When Sharp gets an unsolicited, unflattering, blunt, non-qualified comment about her wardrobe she can't see whether you wrote it with a smile or a grimace, a wink or a scowl. In the absence of those cues you should expect that she'll read into your post the feelings of the moment. What if the night before others harassed her or she had been the victim of a fake profile as many were last week? She will interpret your post through the best goggles available to her at the time. You need to make your views palatable to the reader by making up for in writing the type of cues we taken for granted when we meet in real life..

And I know you can do this. I saw an excellent post from you in Mad as Hell where you reiterated your opinion and tell-it-like-it-is outlook on life. You said the same stuff that bothered me earlier but you completely redeemed it and made it persuasive and credible by ending it with a humorous self-deprecating remark about your own appearance. You accomplished with one simple sentence the same thing that a wink or thoughtful voice would have done if the dialogue was in person. You made it clear that you did care about the reader's feelings.

So Ms. Outspoken, what do you think?

Respectfully,
Andy



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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 15:50

yes we do Katiegirl...lol...No worries there Lass.. I will support and defend my Canadian and Scottish friends always.

  


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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 15:43

Please excuse the swim suit pic. (My MALE friend took it - q'uelle suprise, he forgot my face!)
I'm trying to make a point in the "Mad as HELL" thread, but this photo shows up EVERYWHERE. I'll remove it soon.

With much humility,
Katiegrl

Lassy - always nice to see you're still around. We Scottish Canadian lasses gotta stick together.



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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 15:32

I have?...well that is news to me. I can say confidently I have never discussed jealousy ever on this forum till now. If my response bothers you to that extent why view it or reply...Be my quest and start another forum. Hopefully it would be mentally stimulating enough for others to respond...including myself



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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 15:16

Why such hatred to other women NYCHICK? Should I start copying and pasting your nasty messages to me to the forum so all can see?...How you tooted your own horn and stated you are rich and beautiful and I am ugly...lol...you also then said I was a pretend blonde with class...what was my name you called me ?....hmmm it was barbie doll if I am correct. funny though you went out of your way to IM me today to tell me you were heading out because you have valuable things to do as opposed to wasting your time on here searching for rich men...lol...

She would not now I was online unless she herself was sitting infront the comp...searching...lmao.

Jeaously a sign of insecurity. It indicates a lack of confidence on your part.Not to mention the fact that it's an incredibly annoying personality trait. Jealousy is about you and your feelings of insecurity; your lack of confidence; your feelings of inferiority.Jealousy is defined as an emotional state that is aroused by a perceived threat to a relationship or position. It motivates behaviors that counter the threat.

  


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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 14:54

NY then it's just another example of how people on the forums can misinterpret people's posts.
Well, now that that's all cleared up...What's next on the agenda? Did we just kill this thread? :-)



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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 14:13

again i did not attack hm i simply stated that sitting on a funiture may not the most appealing shot for her.. i never said she wasnt a good looking woman- i stated my opinion since i was brought up that u dont sit on tables -- and its fine - it seems to bring on the millionaires who find that attractive - may she find the man of her dreams and they have 2 tables-- one for pictures and the other for eating



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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 13:42

NYC - What Ed says below in his apology, ditto for me. The no class comment from me as I stated came from what you wrote that I perceived as being rude. But other things you have written I think are valid points. And I'm certainly not judging you (which I know you don't care lol); we all say things that people interpret wrong, or down right hate us for! C'est la vie, en? :-)



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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 13:34


NYCHICK write:
sharp 1

You are right, you may attract alot more men than me. But you will also attract a different kind of man than I will. And that's good, because you & I are 2 different kinds of people. The kind of men you attract I probably wouldn't want to know. And the kind of man I'd attract, well you might find boring, because they are just not WILD enough for you. We each have our standards. We shouldn't knock someone because their's do not meet our own.

That is a very good point there..u did great up until the part whereby u decided my picture was well a bit differnt then yours.. its is.. i agree u have a set of standards and so do i- and i respect that.. however telling me i have no class-- why isnt that the same kinda statements u find offensive? yet u stated it.. honey i hope u attract the man of your dreams or anyman at least.. so to each is own ok



I had to read back to where I wrote something to that affect. Why did I say it? Because read back in these posts where you attack 1HM regarding the table. I don't believe anything she posted to you warranted such a response. Hence, I thought it showed a lack of class.
It is fine to be a free spirited person and speak one's mind about anything, but no matter, there will always be that invisible line of propriety, and when one steps over it...
I think you stepped over it at that point. That's not to say you are never classy, but below...that was not classy.
I've lived & socialized with professionals & business executives (milti-millionaires) for the past 20 yrs, I don't know anyone (male/female) that would have said something like that. Some of these people can have diplomatic personalities others explosive personalities. The latter still do not resort to mudslinging slander & criticisms.



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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 13:03

Ed
sure i accept your apology.. however, my words and how they are interpeted by others, whether they find it rude or just plain ole truth, has no impact on me. I know who i am- i know what kind of person i am.. and i dont dance around an issue - i state what i believe which is simply my opinion-- one has to simply ignore it or maybe not,, but the only changes i make in my life are for me- not for what others want or think i should.. i am not rude i am honest



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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 12:57

APOLOGY TO NYCHICK:

My crude comments concerned your legs spreading was inappropriate and I now believe unwarranted. I hope you will accept my apology for that. Let me know if you want me to edit it out.

NYCHICK, as you know I've been getting to know you by email and I've changed my opinion of you being a fake. I was also taunting you because I felt you were trying to hurt friends of mine.

While I continue to believe that you were tactless and/or insensitive in some places I have come to believe that you are being you and are genuine. You are going to offend some people by your blunt and blatant nature which at least sometimes comes off as rude. You need to figure out how you want people to view and interact with you here.

The problem is, I know from your emails that you see this whole internet site as a bit of a fake window (which it is to some extent) and don't take the people here seriously as real human beings yet. I almost made the same mistake once. I think you are intelligent enough to come around.

Andy