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Posted on Tue, May 17, 2005 18:24


angelpassion write:
Who is REAL and who's a FAKE?

I am getting to the point I have no clue anymore. Today I went on a thread and was talking to who I thought was people I have talked to before. Then I realized one was fake. Now I go back and read that another one might have been a fake too. So I sit here and wonder, who are really, the real ones. I don't know and nervouse on talking to anyone. The meaness has been over whelming on the threads lately.
I miss when we all could talk, joke, and flirt with each other and not have to worry so much about it being used against us or if the person whom we are talking to is real or not. I am so confused. And as one of the fakes said to me today "I am always confused", well yeah with everything going on I am.
Sorry I hope I didn't offend anyone with my post. Just venting a little. Sigh :(



I agree Angel. It's tough to separate the two especially when you're just communicating in the forum. I have been warned about this person and that person and have come to realize that it really doesn't matter. If you really want to explore anything about someone then use direct email/phone. I have found out more about a few woman here through direct communication then I ever could on the forum. There are some authentic people here on the forum and you can usually pick them out but if you're really interested in knowing someone I'd recommend contacting them directly and use the forum for the entertainment value.

  


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Posted on Tue, May 17, 2005 13:17

Hi everyone! wow! lots of things have happend on here since my last visite...lol Well to be honest like i always am...I sure am REAL...not FAKE...never been and never will take someone else's photo...what would be the point in doing that ??? Man!!!!

Good day to all!

  


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Posted on Sun, May 15, 2005 22:24


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angelpassion write:
Who is REAL and who's a FAKE?

I am getting to the point I have no clue anymore. Today I went on a thread and was talking to who I thought was people I have talked to before. Then I realized one was fake. Now I go back and read that another one might have been a fake too. So I sit here and wonder, who are really, the real ones. I don't know and nervouse on talking to anyone. The meaness has been over whelming on the threads lately.
I miss when we all could talk, joke, and flirt with each other and not have to worry so much about it being used against us or if the person whom we are talking to is real or not. I am so confused. And as one of the fakes said to me today "I am always confused", well yeah with everything going on I am.
Sorry I hope I didn't offend anyone with my post. Just venting a little. Sigh :(



Angel I sympathize with you, because I'm in the same boat. For the longest time I suspected Fabio was a fake, but was always polite to me, said hi. I just didn't know who it was until a couple of nights ago.



Angel and Sharp:

This is why Kathryn, I and others believe we need a Report Fakes and Abusers thread. We need a polite way to let people know who the fakes are that is convenient to access. And we can politely tell others by saying Angel: "Please Don't Feed the Trolls" when you inadvertantly engage them. But if you engage a troll on purpose, no matter how nice he/she may be to you, then you become part of the problem.



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Posted on Sun, May 15, 2005 21:55

sorry have to disagree.. i know for myself in the field i work id rather not but my everyday pic up..As for the way men and women think-- take a look at speeds interpertation= no pic== no self esteem-- when i see a guy with no pic i assume hes either married or in a profession where perhaps he dont want his face seen

oh the trouble we create when we jump to conclusions



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Posted on Sun, May 15, 2005 21:55

sorry have to disagree.. i know for myself in the field i work id rather not but my everyday pic up..As for the way men and women think-- take a look at speeds interpertation= no pic== no self esteem-- when i see a guy with no pic i assume hes either married or in a profession where perhaps he dont want his face seen

oh the trouble we create when we jump to conclusions



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Posted on Sun, May 15, 2005 19:21


angelpassion write:
Who is REAL and who's a FAKE?

I am getting to the point I have no clue anymore. Today I went on a thread and was talking to who I thought was people I have talked to before. Then I realized one was fake. Now I go back and read that another one might have been a fake too. So I sit here and wonder, who are really, the real ones. I don't know and nervouse on talking to anyone. The meaness has been over whelming on the threads lately.
I miss when we all could talk, joke, and flirt with each other and not have to worry so much about it being used against us or if the person whom we are talking to is real or not. I am so confused. And as one of the fakes said to me today "I am always confused", well yeah with everything going on I am.
Sorry I hope I didn't offend anyone with my post. Just venting a little. Sigh :(



Angel I sympathize with you, because I'm in the same boat. For the longest time I suspected Fabio was a fake, but was always polite to me, said hi. I just didn't know who it was until a couple of nights ago.



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Posted on Sun, May 15, 2005 19:18

DaveyCrocket...has it occurred to you that this person may be challenged, so possibly another approach is required to bring out the better in him. He may follow by example. Maybe the solution is to try giving him a clean slate...talk politely to him as if nothing in the past had occurred. Won't know if it works, unless it is tried.



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Posted on Sun, May 15, 2005 15:24

Who is REAL and who's a FAKE?

I am getting to the point I have no clue anymore. Today I went on a thread and was talking to who I thought was people I have talked to before. Then I realized one was fake. Now I go back and read that another one might have been a fake too. So I sit here and wonder, who are really, the real ones. I don't know and nervouse on talking to anyone. The meaness has been over whelming on the threads lately.
I miss when we all could talk, joke, and flirt with each other and not have to worry so much about it being used against us or if the person whom we are talking to is real or not. I am so confused. And as one of the fakes said to me today "I am always confused", well yeah with everything going on I am.
Sorry I hope I didn't offend anyone with my post. Just venting a little. Sigh :(



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Posted on Sun, May 15, 2005 12:39


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I think Mr Look is only reporting your posts that are very rude and crude toward others. It has been suggested to you by a few members on the forum to talk friendly and politely and others are more likely to treat you the same. If you are still being reported for abuse, consequently kicked off, that should tell you something. It should tell you that your conduct is unacceptable, rude and crude. I am not sure how I could say that to you any more clearly. Be nice to others.:-)

Thank You Sharp1,,
Cajun as long as you are "nice" and "not abusive" you will not be reported.
I am sure there are good things you could share in the forums.



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Posted on Sun, May 15, 2005 12:03

I think Mr Look is only reporting your posts that are very rude and crude toward others. It has been suggested to you by a few members on the forum to talk friendly and politely and others are more likely to treat you the same. If you are still being reported for abuse, consequently kicked off, that should tell you something. It should tell you that your conduct is unacceptable, rude and crude. I am not sure how I could say that to you any more clearly. Be nice to others.:-)



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Posted on Sun, May 15, 2005 11:01

Hi Everybody,

I was reading a lot of the exchanges involving the fakes and discussions about lawsuits etc. (as in Romance:Attractive thread). Certainly, I agree this is a nasty problem at MM which detracts from many people's enjoyment at MM. I have to say that I agree almost completely with Kathryn_D. Steve and his fakes and others like him are referred to as "trolls" and there are accepted methods for dealing with them. These policies can easy be found by Googling "forums" and "trolls" As Kathryn correctly pointed out, ignoring them is the best method no matter how vicious they get.because they get off on the attention. Unfortunately, MM has not done its share to solve this problem. IP addresses should be banned and these fakes should be removed much faster. Keep complaining and maybe one day this problem will be minimized.

In the meantime, we have to police the forums ourselves. No one person wants to be accused of being the forum police, as I and others have been. So we need to agree amongst ourselves and build a consensus and follow the rules. It only takes one newbie or misinformed member to converse with these creeps to keep them alive. We need to find a way to build and keep this consensus and that means providing good information.

I always thought the long forgotten "Sisterhood" thread was a great idea. Members here, mostly women, used it to report members they dated who were not what they portrayed - especially stalkers and predators. I think we need to revive something like that.

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Posted on Sun, May 15, 2005 11:00

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I think we need a main thread called "Report Abusive and Fake Members". I think MM should moderate this thread and if not, give a few respected members here a free membership and the "keys" necessary to do so (like other well-moderated sites do). I am not volunteering for this so I'm not being self serving (it would also be hypocritical as I have engaged in fakery in the past, albeit to try to combat abuse). Even if MM won't support this I think such a thread would be worthwhile. But the fakes and abusers would likely inundate it with garbage. So perhaps certain caring members could keep a running list that could be updated and reposted periodically so we can all check it before responding to a post from some new suspicious profile. We should all do our part to report such members until they are removed.

So how do we handle newbies and the misinformed who converse with fakes and abusers? The method I have seen work well is for the other decent members to privately email a notice and post a polite standard warning to that person that simply says, "Please Don't Feed the Trolls". Only name the troll if its not clear who it is. Finally, I would begin to avoid conversing with those who don't follow the rules after a few reminders. If we can't all work together this won't work.

The only thing I'm uncertain of his how we ascertain a fake. In the case of Steve's Fabios and those who use knockoffs of others names and pics it's easy. But we need a way to identify the rest. Perhaps we could discuss this in the new thread.

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Posted on Sun, May 15, 2005 11:00

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We also need to reserve this approach only for the truly abusive and offensive like Steve and his fakes who's main mission on this site is nefarious; to stalk, hurt, and manipulate trouble for selfish ends. Simply having arguments and getting into some nasty "words" from time to time should not be grounds for this. When I was fighting with Orion, many of my friends here let me know that they reported him for abuse. Well, I'll have you know that despite the fact that I don't like him, I never reported him once. I don't believe someone like that sufficiently meets the qualifications of a troll. He simply dislikes me intensely and is entitled to his opinion. I know some of you disagree with me but for this to work we need to give people the benefit of the doubt. Otherwise this policing would itself lead to abuse and censorship.

I'm not a paying member so I can't create a new thread. What do you people think? Is this a good idea? Anyone want to volunteer to set this up?

Andy



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Posted on Sun, May 15, 2005 00:08


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Interesting concept........A guy with no pics will get more attention because the fantasy of what they may look like is always better than the actual. This true ladies? Sure better than if a guy is tore to the floor, but better than a good pic?

For me I see no pic for a female and it signals 1 of 3 things, none good....1. low self esteem 2. not attractive or at least,3. not very open, and I move on. Look at the 2 ladies below, both attractive and not afraid to show it.



Speed...I am like yourself...I do not consider a guy who does not have a picture, because I don't want any surprises I might not like. But one never knows, if one's profile was outstanding...I might reconsider. Sometimes there are privacy reasons the person needs to hide their profile. I mean if you were Donald Trump you'd hide your profile wouldn't you? lol Seriously,some men/women have good reason for hiding that do not include looks/weight, low self-esteem, etc.

As for the guy with no picture who gets more attention...well, he's married, so none of us a vying for his attention in that way...he's a cyber friend on the forums and has been a fun one. Hey that rhymes! lol



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Posted on Sat, May 14, 2005 20:12

Andy you are just sooo bad. Speed Dallas you are rigt in most cases. If no picture than delete comes to mind. But as we know there is always the exception to that rule. As with Andy he's very happily married and we all basically knew him without any amour popping up so in this he is excluded. But then now Andy i DO know what you look like. I even know he had a bad hair day when he was married... LMAo Andy it wasn't really bad!
Sometime we get mail from a no pic and here it comes along with it. Now that is good. It shows consideration. Business, position will be some of the reasons people might not want to show a pic. Then there is those that make us curious. Right ht, wt etc. (if they don't flat lie) and occasionally here comes one with the 2/3rd email. Well now the only hitch here is a "No way Hosa" makes it a little awkward but then you have to do it. So you bite that bullet. So there can be exceptions but overall a picture is appreciated more. I want to see the man i am looking at so i know i am interested as vice versa.............S4U

  


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Posted on Sat, May 14, 2005 19:30


sharp1 write:
Ed...LMAO...you are so bad! If I had your email, I'd write and give you sh*t! ;-) Is there a full deck?
joecajun...I received your wink ... thank you I'll take that as a compliment.



I sent you an email earlier today to thank you for various things from an old email I found from you. Apprarently it didn't go thru. Cassandra has my private email you can get it from her.



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Posted on Sat, May 14, 2005 17:48

Interesting concept........A guy with no pics will get more attention because the fantasy of what they may look like is always better than the actual. This true ladies? Sure better than if a guy is tore to the floor, but better than a good pic?

For me I see no pic for a female and it signals 1 of 3 things, none good....1. low self esteem 2. not attractive or at least,3. not very open, and I move on. Look at the 2 ladies below, both attractive and not afraid to show it.



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Posted on Sat, May 14, 2005 14:12

OMG Andy why are you giving this poor man advice like that...LMAo He is soooooo Strange he just cracks me up watching him. Andy be ashamed of yourself(bend over and take you li*cks.)Giving the evil eye here!!!!!!..LMAo



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Posted on Sat, May 14, 2005 11:17

Ed...LMAO...you are so bad! If I had your email, I'd write and give you sh*t! ;-) Is there a full deck?
joecajun...I received your wink ... thank you I'll take that as a compliment.



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Posted on Sat, May 14, 2005 11:03


joecajun write:

mr ed katie putted one up of me idid not get mad, so in returned i putted one up of her, and she got mad it is not right ,you think? and ed brother since you are rolling in dough think you can set me up with michael jackson or james brown i want to record man, thriller thriller night they are fighting for therre lives so get up get up,: james brown try me try me darling please tell me ineed you, oh ineed you i need you,hoo hoo,good night be back tonight. iam going to bed, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha aha ha ha ha ha. and ed my other profiles were at 50 ednow my new one is at 7. looks



Just take my advice, take your pics off completely and you'll get so much p*ussy you won't be able to handle it.