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Posted on Tue, May 03, 2005 01:17

I don't know the answer and I have put my 280 IQ on the problem for years with no solution.

I am so sorry, I forgot the minus sign.

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Posted on Tue, May 03, 2005 01:05

Maybe we should bann all religions and certainly all radical ideologies?

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Better still just feed everyone with Big Macs and Coke and get them so obese that no one could get up to fight and we would all die of heart failure or malnutrition from indulgence...]
you can't ban all religion and ideologies with the advent of hi-tech..unless you send everyone to the moon and start a new community from scratch..like leaving test tubes of self-propagating babies with no parents/teachers/adults to brainwash them..sc-fi style..



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Posted on Tue, May 03, 2005 01:01

We have enough religion to make us hate but not enough to make us love one another'-Jonathan Swift

I certainly agree with that statement. In fact, religion has certainly caused more wars than it has ever prevented.

However, music will cure nothing. If you had 10000 musicians learning to play together and kiss each other on the cheek, that only leaves a couple of billion other people to figure out how to stop shooting and bombing each other.

Maybe we should bann all religions and certainly all radical ideologies? I think the muslems radicals have this one last chance to join the civilized world and be a peaceful member. The next step may be to build a wall around their part of the world and keep them there.



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Posted on Tue, May 03, 2005 00:06

After all, americans have a culture also and its not bad to learn it either, especially the about democracy, citizens and womens rights, etc.
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What do you think Coke and Macdonalds have been doing all these years to the entire world, why do you think Obesity in young kids have suddenly sprout thru rice -eating countries that never had that problem for centuries have now had to deal with that like americans ..
why do you think our generation may not know who the President of US is but everyone would know who Michael Jackson, Osmonds, the Beatles or Abba are?

Edward Said, was an accomplished pianist, Julliard standard because he saw music as the only universal language, even that alone needs a keen ear for interpretation..and that perhaps it is thru that medium that the world could find a more peaceful solution.. he was instrumental in founding a music camp with a famous German conductor where young musicians from mainly the Jewish and Arab nations and Palestine could converge to play music and learn to live together in peace..
We may even speak the same language , but the accent, the delivery may all not be the same and still need interpretation, as much as the music of Paganini, Bach , Beethoven are constantly interpreted and played differently by different musicians and orchestras..

'We have enough religion to make us hate but not enough to make us love one another'-Jonathan Swift

'An eye for an eye only leaves he world blind.' -Gandhi



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Posted on Mon, May 02, 2005 22:46

Bonnie:"Americans had studied Arabic , your own soldiers in Iraq would at least be able to communicate with the local natives on the ground and distinguish thru accent , who is a Shiite , who is a Kurd."
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It can't be done. The soldier you are talking about is probably 19 or 20 years old. He has't had 40 years to learn, and even if he had, would you teach him Tagalog, Arabic, Spanish, Korean, Russian, German, or what. Look at where the american soldiers have been in the last 15 years, or even since WW1. Besides he understands (in any language) if you are screaming or pointing a gun at him. I am sure they all try to learn some of the language of the country they are stationed in, but how could they possibly become fluent?

And, by the way, the soldiers in all of those countries they helped all left after peace was restored and goverment was returned to the people. (exceptions are Korea, etc. left to prevent agression from outside the country) The world should be kissing the american soldiers feet, not hating them - and maybe even learning english so they can talk to them and learn about their values. After all, americans have a culture also and its not bad to learn it either, especially the about democracy, citizens and womens rights, etc.

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Posted on Mon, May 02, 2005 15:10

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and your language, culture and country, that first impression is one of genuineness..and the response is inevitably of greater acceptance.. if you could put what you said to me in Arabic to the Iraqi, you would have won him over faster and more convincingly...just as I would not have deliver this message to you if I did not make the effort to master English as my first language..language is the most important tool of communication and much is lost if our thoughts have to be translated by an intervening medium..and this debate here is a clear case in point , even speaking in the same language we do not necessarily understand the nuances and the crux of each others point..and much has to be elaborated..even between two intelligent and articulate persons..that demonstrates clearly the power of langugage and politics..



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Posted on Mon, May 02, 2005 14:53

www. Much as I understand what you are saying as a free American trying to be the hero and save the world from corruption and dictatorship of tyrants, my view as in what Edward Said had advocated is that peace could be achieved through greater understanding first instead of using the sledge hammer method ..if more Americans had studied Arabic , your own soldiers in Iraq would at least be able to communicate with the local natives on the ground and distinguish thru accent , who is a Shiite , who is a Kurd..rather than go on a self-defence rampage..the war may be won but peace is lost thru ignorance of the culture and language of what you deem your 'benificiaries' who should be grateful to your heroic acts..that is what I am trying to tell you...it is not the motive of all good Americans who believe in the liberation of the masses which we doubt, it is the method and your way of delivering that message that could be misundestood ,misinterpreted and misread..never underestimate the power of language..if you could just read Said's work ,he was an accomplished academic who saw the importance of interpretation of languages that could dominate politics..and in a more subtle way, the English language thru usage will be the dominant language of use and for countries where it is not their native tongue, they will never be able to articulate their views better to the world..it is an everyday occurence when you watch on TV how the inarticulate leaders from countries where English is not the mother tongue get ignored and have to struggle to make themselves understood thru inept translation or their interests lost in translation..clear case in point are the Japanese..and their politics..I m not saying you are wrong in what you advocate, my point is that if you could say all that you tell me to an Iraqi eloquently in his language , you would have won him over far quicker and far more convincingly and sincerely..that is the difference..when someone shows keeness in knowing you...



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Posted on Mon, May 02, 2005 12:24

Bonnie: clue how the rest of the world works in a different culture and language..and that is a serious and critical loss because it only cause ignorance, misunderstanding , envy and deep anger and hatred to propagate and mount..
REad the views of the late Prof. Edward Said, renown Professor of Comparative Lit. Columbia U. , key specialist and empathiser of the Palestinian cause, accomplished concert pianist and outspoken advocate for better understanding of the Middle east conflict thru language..the power and domination thru that is so insidious and deep that Colonialism is really still camouflaged and surviving in a post-modern form...that is even far more damaging at times...

I can understand a few basic things about world politics, and can do it without knowing any language at all, even English.

1. I hate any form of terrorism and agree with exterminating them anywhere you find them. Terroristic acts are cowardly acts usually killing the innocent. If you want to fight for your cause, be a man enough to stand up and fight face to face. Better yet, go vote, if you are lucky enough to live in a country that you can.

2. I think that voting is the way to determine who governs you. Dictators are rarely any good and most are tyrants, thieves, and often murders. I believe history agrees with me. That much power simply corrupts. Same for too much religious power.

3. I think there are many people in many countries that disagree with US policies. I think there are more people in the same countries that agree with the long term goals of the US, they just don't go around killing people who disagree.
4. I think that anyone who is foolish enough to think the US is in Iraq /middle east because of oil or colonialism should look at what we are spending there each year to suppress terrorism, etc. FOR FREE. The cost could never be paid back in a 1000 years, not to mention the cost in lives of the people from many countries trying to help.
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Posted on Mon, May 02, 2005 12:22

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5. I think that any terrorist who attacks Americans, anywhere in the world, that believes he won't be tracked to the ends of the earth, for as long as he is alive, has mis-understood the American peoples resolve big time. We don't even forget the Jane Fonda type of mistake after 40 years..

6. I don't think being a accomplished concert pianist qualifies you are anything but playing the piano. Same for being a professor. We have lots of both in this world and I am sure very few of them agree on anything.


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Posted on Mon, May 02, 2005 09:21

Min, Don't worry, we all go thru phases when we need someone especially when we are not busy socially or work wise.. all of us need to be needed,to feel a relevance in other's lives..friends esp those with family responsibiities may not find the time to give and it does not mean they have forgotten , maintaining friendship is hard ..but I also find that real friends could pick up wherever and whenever they meet up again..it is that bond that is so relaxing and undemanding..



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Posted on Mon, May 02, 2005 03:00

Bonnie, Lassie, Sharp and wwww.. you have all made some very good points about friends. Lassie and Bonnie: couldn't have put it better!
I am lucky to count about a dozen very good friends (three of those are childhood friends therefore qualify as "best friends") who would be there for me at the drop of a hat. Some of them are spread around the world a bit so obviously not easy to just "come over" but I know they would if they could.
I have just gone through the worst period of my life since summer 2003 and I have only very recently started feeling a bit better, although some of the really bad stuff is not over yet. Frankly, I don't know what I would have done without my friends to talk to!
Most of them are women but two are men and although I talk to them much less than I talk to the women, if I needed them they would be there.
On being single - I totally agree with Lassie and the way she put it.
I never had a problem being single for long periods of time. They say in French "il vaut mieux etre seul que mal-accompagne" : "better to be alone than in bad company". I have always been happy also being by myself at home in the evening or on a weekend. I enjoy my own company and am rarely bored or truly lonely. If I am I just call one of my friends.
Lately though I have felt the need more to be with someone but it's the circumstances in my life I think that make me need to have company.



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Posted on Mon, May 02, 2005 02:32

And, another ironic thing, because much of the technology originated in the US, the language of this worldwide communication is usually english. This is recognized by most students worldwide and most governments.

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That is why Americans rarely learn or bother to speak another language and your life is that much more limited by it..I guess the compensating factor is you use the time you save trying to solve the world's political/economic issues without having much clue how the rest of the world works in a different culture and language..and that is a serious and critical loss because it only cause ignorance, misunderstanding , envy and deep anger and hatred to propagate and mount..
REad the views of the late Prof. Edward Said, renown Professor of Comparative Lit. Columbia U. , key specialist and empathiser of the Palestinian cause, accomplished concert pianist and outspoken advocate for better understanding of the Middle east conflict thru language..the power and domination thru that is so insidious and deep that Colonialism is really still camouflaged and surviving in a post-modern form...that is even far more damaging at times...



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Posted on Sun, May 01, 2005 00:35

Historically, say 100-500 years ago great ideas were communicated around the world by the hand written letter and may take months to deliver, A man could become famous by his letters, which were often published in local newspapers, etc. - thus a man could become "a great man of letters". Today, you could become famous in a instance if you really had something earthshaking to say. )That gives you a clue as to why no one knows me).


Today, we have the advantage of instant transmission of music, photos, video, phone, email, and transmission of almost any type of documentation or sound. It should be easier than ever to make friends,-- and it may even be happening.

For certain, the world is communicating in a way never before seen in history, and there will be major historical changes because of it, - already have been, but it is just getting started.

And, another ironic thing, because much of the technology originated in the US, the language of this worldwide communication is usually english. This is recognized by most students worldwide and most governments.



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Posted on Fri, Apr 29, 2005 01:23

Friendship is also about chemistry and needs investment in time and caring..nuturing like we do to children, plants and pets..
TIME which is a sparse commodity in this modern day and age has meant that our relationships suffer..but thanks to the immediacy of email and telephone..hopefully this helps keep the contact alive..but the danger is we might replace the virtual with the real ..and our relationship becomes one with the computer and cyber space..there is nothing like face to face contact.and unfortunately our kids are subject to this distant virtual transient form of relationship..a bit of reality coming true , smacks of the film 'Blade-runner' ..our memories are fast becoming virtual..is this all artificial imagined relationship?
Take for instance this site, I have touched base and seen all your inner thoughts but not your real faces and neither have you mine..will we be disappointed when we meet? or we might even pass each other on the street and not realise that our paths have crossed on cyberspace? such irony..



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Posted on Thu, Apr 28, 2005 15:32

" I find that men prefer telling women their inner most thoughts because there is less ego involved, since most men do not like being seen as failures or weak by their own gender"

I know, in some cases this the reason. Many men have resented my abilities and knowledge, especially if I know more than they think I should know about their academic field or even their skill. These men are not usually failures, however, just not as broad based. Many will, however talk about their problems, etc. but still there is not a real friendship in my opinion.



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Posted on Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:53

Bonnie, love what you wrote. And I think you are so bang on when you wrote "FEMINITY is a more powerful force than feminism..and a lot of women have forgotten that."

ww ... I agree with what Bonnie says, but as with all things it is not always the case. My close friends are comprised of 2 females, and 3 males. Like yourself, 4 friends are from my high school years. One from 12 yrs ago, I met thru my kids.
The male friends, are best friends with each too, and keep in touch with each other. All living very far apart. But these guys have experience canoe trips in the bush together year after year. It's a tradition with them! Sometimes they'll get together and go hunting, or rent snowmobiles and do the guy thing...head to the mountains, and nearly kill themselves trying to climb a steep mountainside in waist deep or more powder! So their common denominator that holds them together is a shared interest in an activity they all love to do.



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Posted on Thu, Apr 28, 2005 02:21

. I have many female friends that would be there if needed, but probably no males. Any thoughts?


I find that men prefer telling women their inner most thoughts because there is less ego involved, since most men do not like being seen as failures or weak by their own gender..esp Brit stiff upperlipped men..I know lots of them and for some strange reason they would open up to me more than my husband even though they are his buddies..clear case in point is Prince Charles..he had a glamorous wife but prefer a woman who reminds him of his mother..
Women are more emotionally connected..and our roles as mothers make us more compassionate..and men probably subconsciously want to be mothered..and their female friends are great substitutes..I have personally been 'mothering' so many male platonic friends thru their traumatic divorces when their wives walked out on them or had affairs with other men and widowers..but also have to be weary of them seeing me as a potential susbstitute for their wives..
We are also keener to keep up with friends because women are better at 'small talk' and trivia, which is relaxing and comforting, we provide that 'COMFORT ZONE' and the bosom and the warm touch of a woman is that..and hence they are my greatest emotional support in times of needs..we don't circle away on irrelevant issues like the weather..before we get to the vortex of the talk..and are not afraid to bare our souls and cry..few men I know dare to CRY openly..so this bottling up of their emotions is tough..and only a woman know how to deal with tears..since we are used to crying babies and infants..and that is why we make better nurses ..
Our Feminity should not be ignored..I am a convert, a born again feminine woman who learn that from living in Japan..FEMINITY is a more powerful force than feminism..and a lot of women have forgotten that.



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Posted on Thu, Apr 28, 2005 02:07

Well, I have a question about friends. I have always found it easier to have women friends than males. I have female friends even from high school that are really good friends, that visit, call, write, etc. One 25 year friend is even visiting me tomorrow (with her husband, and another visited a few weeks ago, with her new husband). I have several that write or call quite often from my college days also. However, I rarely hear from male "friends". Its not because I don't know males, I worked with about a 1000 over my career. I have many female friends that would be there if needed, but probably no males. Any thoughts?



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Posted on Thu, Apr 28, 2005 01:21

I think that survey was looking at friends and probably acquaintances that one could invite to one's wedding or party..but \i agree that 50 close friends is a tall order.but could be over one's entire life..in that some friends might just have lost touch but could get right back again if we search for them..I find that happens to me alot because I have lived in many places and it is hard to keep up..I have found a couple of lost friends through my kids recently and even thru the 'Friends reunite' site ..



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Posted on Wed, Apr 27, 2005 22:35


wwwww123 write:
I doubt if the average person has 50 friends, certainly not close freinds. I think a person is rich indeed if they have 5 really good and close friends who would do anything for them.

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I agree with you ww. And I consider myself very lucky indeed to have exactly 5 very good friends, that no matter where I was in this World, if I needed there help and asked for it, they would be there for me, as I would for them.
Yes, true friends are rare. And you have to be that kind of friend, to have that kind of friend.