The Scriptures command us to 'judge not, least ye be judged'. That said, I will tell you there is no physical 'proof' that existed. It is a matter of faith.
My faith says yes He did exist. My 'proof'? I have been cancer free now for three years. During that time, I have been rewarded with life, peace of mind, family and a beautiful daughter. That's all the 'proof' I need.
An extremely eloquent post 2Much!
Jesus was real, that much we know.
And as far as all the hype, attributes, improper translations, misconstrued statements, etc..., look at the core principal behind it all.
It is the principal that Jesus, Muhammed, ALL the prophets represent that is the true intent of it all!
It's ALL good.
And as far as a virgin birth goes, it certainly was possible. We can do it today, certainly there exists those elsewhere that could do that much back then, and more.
Believe it, or not.
Legend, liar, lunatic or Lord? Those are not the only four choices.
How about mistaken?
How about misquoted?
How about mistranslated (especially in the King James translation, which is grossly inaccurate)?
How about misconstrued?
How about censored (for religious or political reasons), so that we only have part of the message?
How about over-hyped, in an attempt to woo converts?
How about re-written or modified?
How about garbled, so that all we have is a shadow of what was actually preached?
Don't forget that there are many sayings attributed to Jesus in the non-canonical gospels that are excluded from the biblical canon because they did not conform to a particular 4th century's view (as reflected in the Council of Nicea) of the meaning of Jesus' teachings.
Don't forget that only a few years after Jesus's death, even Jesus' brother James (who headed the pro-circumcision faction) and Paul the Apostle (who preached to the Greek gentiles), quarreled as to what Jesus' message really was.
The fact is that it is impossible to prove whether Jesus was divine. The question of his divinity is an issue of faith, not logic, archeology or psychiatry.
You know what is weird, AGiftfromHeaven, a anthesit try to prove that God didn't exist through Quantum Algebra and here through math he actually proved that there is a God...Now he is a believer of God....
I'm Proud that I am a God follower....Nobody can't change my mind about God...
I believe that Jesus and God exists. For those who don't believe in God and Jesus are the ones that are gonna live hard through the 7 year tribulation. I'm totally prepare for the rapture. For those who don't know what the rapture is watch the "Left Behind" movies and read the "Left Behind" Series Books, they give people an excellent idea of the what the world will be like after the rapture and when the antichrist takes place. Believing in God and Jesus is the most coolest thing that anyone can do in their life.
Historical and archeological evidence, such as the dead Sea Scrolls, show the Creator?s name is YHVH, pronounced Yahweh and replaced with god, lord, etc., because the priest, rulers decreed the name held too much power for the people and there have been several crucified pagan and heathen gods (long before 2,000 years ago), who were all born of a virgin on December 25th (the Winter Solstice, Saturnalia) who were all slain in a bloody sacrifice and crucifixion, and who all rose from the dead on the Spring Equinox (Easer, named after the Dawn Goddess EASTRE) to bring salvation to their followers through their slain flesh and blood and corrupted further by Constantine in 325 A.D., when he adopted Christianity into government and I would appreciate any substantive information to further verify or contradict the matter.
Yahoshua, a Levite, was the name of the fellow who taught The Way. Performing according to the Spirit within. The Truth. Conscience. You put ego, your adversary aside. To paraphrase, it is when the slave becomes the master and the student becomes the teacher. You must call upon and worship the Name of YAHWEH [Yah-Way], and follow the Way of THE SON, KING OF KINGS YAHOSHUA [Yah-hah-shu-way], instead of the man-made and false EA-ZEUS or JE-SUS [Jesus]. The name Jesus is derived from a Greek rendering of the Hebrew name Joshua, or in full Yehoshuah (Jehovah is deliverance). (Jesus is English for the Greek - Iesous and Joshua is English for the Hebrew - Yahshua. Jesus = Ea - Zeus - Healing Zeus. Joshua = Yahweh salvation. The title Christ is derived from the Greek Christos, a translation of the Hebrew mashiakh (anointed one), or Messiah "Christ" was used by Jesus' early followers, who regarded him as the promised deliverer of Israel and regards him as the redeemer of all humanity. The principal sources of information concerning Jesus' life are the Gospels, written in the latter half of the 1st century. Paul and the Acts of th...
Paul and the Acts of the Apostles also contain information about Jesus. Christ is merely a title, which means ?anointed? and can be anyone or anything anointed with oil or ?christened?. This could be a king or queen, any Prince or Princess, and Navy ship, or an auto mechanic. Christ comes from Krishna, a crucified heathen and pagan god in India, who lived long before the Messiah, YAHOSHUA, 200 years before.
Remember, it was when Yahweh commanded Lucifer to bow down to His son, Yahoshua, that Lucifer ? according his ego ? rebelled, refused, and was cast out of heaven. No man or woman can reject and deny Yahoshua [his Way] and expect to enter into the Kingdom of Yahweh! It would be contrary the nature of Yahweh and Yahoshua for a non-believer to have entrance into the Kingdom of Yahweh. The man [ego], adversarial, Satan, Babylonia religions, commercial jurisdictions, churches and congregations are, in fact, worshipping and performing according to a suppressor, i.e., ego, not Truth, and deny themselves the coming of the King of Kings and Kingdom!
AGFH- Alberto is right they do exist as they are known. Whether they are real or just a written account by someone is the toss up. Here it stems all on your faith. Whether it is real or not you should not discuss these things on a public forum and on that one i would argue my last breath. It is a taboo subject. Will not change the mind of anyone. If they believe they will always believe. Each person has to have his or her own way of believing in something. This is a topic that is disagreed upon and can never be solved. So we know how you feel i hope you do not cont. with it..
It sounds like you need to read the book "The Biggest Secet" By David Icke. A very interesting one i assure you.
No one has the slightest physical evidence to support a historical Jesus; no artifacts, dwelling, works of carpentry, or self-written manuscripts. All claims about Jesus derive from writings of other people. There occurs no contemporary Roman record that shows Pontius Pilate executing a man named Jesus. Devastating to historians, there occurs not a single contemporary writing that mentions Jesus. All documents about Jesus got written well after the life of the alleged Jesus from either: unknown authors, people who had never met an earthly Jesus, or from fraudulent, mythical or allegorical writings. Although one can argue that many of these writings come from fraud or interpolations, I will use the information and dates to show that even if these sources did not come from interpolations, they could still not serve as reliable evidence for a historical Jesus, simply because all sources derive from hearsay accounts.
Even if the texts supported the notion that the apostles wrote them, consider that the average life span of humans in the first century came to around 30, and very few people lived to 70. If the apostles births occured at about the same time as the alleged Jesus, and wrote their gospels in their old age, that would put Mark at least 70 years old, and John at over 110.