The transition from earth life to spirit life is made as easy for us as possible. It is in this stage that we feel most the need to communicate that we have survived. Apparently not everyone feels like that, but most do. It is these of us who try to "come through" at meetings with mediums. However, such meetings are rare (if you think about the number of people alive on earth and the number of who attend a meeting with a medium, you will get the idea) and most of us adjust to the idea that communication may simply not be for us. However, somehow or another, we will find out if a medium has someone we know or love with them, and we can then try to take part in a communication. We are always aware that God is real and that he loves us. There is no compulsion on us to try to get closer to him, but the prevailing atmosphere and sense of purpose in the Spirit World is such that we are almost inevitably going to want to move to be closer. That means not just physically closer, but developmentally closer: we want to be better spirits, to become more like our father God. And, as we get closer down the aeons of eternity, the attraction he exerts over us increases the nearer we get to him until, at last, nothing else matters to us but to enter his near presence. However, that is in the very distant future aeons of eternity. For now, we simply feel the first stirrings. This is where we realise that there are things about the life we have left which were not as they ought to have been. We have hurt people, upset people. We have done wrong and we have enjoyed things which were bad for us and caused others harm. More simply put, in religious terminology, we have "sinned." We can all relate to that! In order for the movement towards God to begin, we have to recognise that, as he is perfection, so he can not have imperfection close to him. Spirits which exist in his near presence have been created by him and allowed to be as they wish - as God him...
GIFTFROMHELL, you say there isnt a hell, there isnt a devil, there isnt demons yet, you recognize the New Testament which talks about all the above. Oh Yeah, you are really smart. I think i will send in your name for an award - the dumber that dirt one.
IB, yes we do get to do the same thing. Jesus apostles were mere men just like me and they called a spade, a spade.If you will look at the way others responded in this debate( NOFUN yesterday is a good example) and what they called me or said in a smart way to me THEN, you will know why i responded equally. Then, they cant take what they dished out and go to whinning to support, after they have made their wolf pack with others. Simple, dont call me names or smart off to me and we will debate in a nice way all you want with the exception of non believers who just want trouble and mock God OR false teachers. Yes, i definately will get in their face.Nothing non christian at all about that. Stay away from that vampire before she fills you head with all that nonsense.
IB, one can list scriptures all day and take things out of context. Are you and others listening to what this voo doo lady is really saying? She thinks the old testament is useless. She has said she doesnt believe in the devil though she also says she recognizes the new testament - where he is talked about and to by Jesus and his apostles. So are demons but, she rejects that idea. She rather follow mans logic than Jesus teaching and people had better avoid her. She is full of the devil. What she believes isnt anywhere close to bibical teaching. Talk with your minister before you wind up in hell with her if, you doubt what i am saying.She says the bible contridicts itsself.God called, teaching someone that they cant marry or that they cant eat meat on certain days, DOCTRINES OF DEVILS. Man made doctrines, in other words.She CLAIMS to speak to those who have died.The fake preachers that are making fools of people and flying around the country in their private jets - at the overly emotionals and unlearneds expense are using the same tactics. This lady isnt anywhere close to any such teaching in the bible, old or new testament.
FUN, people who use that judge not thing shows me they know nothing about the bible, "if you judge, judge righteousness judgement" is forgotten about. The bible. no where has ever instructed a christian not to judge. What it does say is to tell the truth, call a spade, a spade like Jesus did, dont jump to wild conclusions and assumptions until you know the truth. I dont know what version you are reading but, you should read matthew where Jesus got a whip after the money changers - dont think there was a whole lot of love there.Real life is, there are some people by their actions deserves ones wrath. Paul clearly said, "be ye angry and sin not" so, what sin have i commited in my posts?
Spiritualism is a common sense religion, one of knowing and living. We accept all truths and endeavor to prove their validity. Truths are found in nature, in other religions, in writings, in science, in philosophy, in Divine Law and are received through spirit communication.
Spiritualists believe that God or Infinite Intelligence is ALL That Is, expressing through all creation by love, light and law. Humanity, the most complex of life on earth, reaches this Divine Source through prayer, meditation, listening to the inner awareness, and service. Why service? Because every living thing is a part of God, so as we serve life we also serve the Higher Energies.
Life is consciousness - without consciousness there is no existence. Consciousness is the totality of one's thoughts, feelings, emotions and impressions on the mind. The state of thinking is how we create our consciousness. Spiritualism teaches that through the Law of Action/Reaction or Cause/Effect we take control of our lives as we control our thoughts. Positive thinking leads to happiness and assists the individual to grow.
Spiritualism encourages growth of loving consciousness in the physical world not only for the immediate benefits, but also the future rewards in the Spiritual Dimension. The Law of Continuity and the Law of Attraction teach us that "As within, so without. As above, so below." A soul arriving in the next plane of existence will find they take their consciousness with them and will be in the company of like-minded entities. The more loving and spiritual the soul has become, the more beautiful and rewarding will be the new home and associates in the spirit land.
Life is continuous, the consciousness never dies for it is part of God and the Infinite is forever. Upon the cessation of the physical housing, the spirit graduates to the next plane of existence. This plane is similar to our earthly plane but at a higher rate of vibration and lumin...
John Edwards has been in England doing a tour in some theatres with his Evening of Clairvoyance. The man is wonderful, spiritual, kind, empathic and sympathetic. I know John reasonably well and he is a lovely man. I understand that he has stopped his tv show to do other things now, which is a pity. The man is wonderful with his evidence of survival.
These people have a genuine gift of being able to communicate with the spiritual world.
Thanks to all of you who have emailed me requesting the details for the Spiritualist Churches Worldwide links and they have been sent. If anyone else wants this please do send me an email and I will forward it to you.
Where Spiritualism is concerned I have no need to put my case forward. What you believe or disbelieve is your faith, not mine.
the Bible is littered with examples of what we now term "Spiritualist" activity, which I am not really interested in, nor concerned with. I don't live my life to the Bible or to any other book of faith.
Furthermore, Spoil, I do not care whether you want to know about Spiritualism or not. I have my pathway and you have yours.
I started the thread on Spiritualism for people who have genuine interest in that religion and the evidence of survival that is given as part of that religion.
I happen to be able to give that evidence of survival my religion requires. I teach the religion of Spiritualism and I give philosophy based on the teachings of Spiritualism.
Spiritualism is more than a religion to me, it is not just a religion, it is a way of life, in service to others.
That does not mean to say that I will sit back in silence whilst you, or anyone else, decides to tell me that I am wrong, evil, a witch, working with the devil, etc, etc.
I pity the fact that you have closed your mind to modern thinking, to modern religions, to a modern way of life, choosing to live your life in a five thousand year old book whose roots are shrouded in mystery and fantasy.
For those interested I have a link that will provide you with lots of information regarding Spiritualism and Spiritualist Churches worldwide. Unfortunately, due to MM's rules on messages I cannot post it here.
Please leave a message here and I will email the link to you.
Saks, sort of jumped the gun there didnt you.No, i am not self-righteous at all, i just know the bible and evidentally those wanting to debate me arent on the same knowledge level with me and/or are blinded by their predjuices by the way they were raised, gets all fired up because they spit out things that doesnt match scripture.You would love me to death if you got to know me.
IB, I am not making fun of you, i am just curious how you would know that you see things and dream things others dont because i sure dont know what others dream.If you are talking to the elderly and helping to remove their fears of dying, thats great but, i dont see that as a "spiritual gift", just someone that cares and from your posts over the months, i sure would agree that you have a "gift" to gab alright.Ha I would be more than glad to look up any passage from gift or anyone else but, i have no clue what it is she is claiming she does so, i cant agree or disagree because she has done nothing but, talk in general terms and hasnt said exactly what she does that is "spiritual".She needs to say what she spicifically does THEN, i will see if it matches scripture. From her language and from her mocking the bible, i hardly believe it is from God, looks like its from the other side.
There are a lot of Spiritualist Churches across the US and Canada. I do work for the US Churches myself.
There is a list of those churches on a website, will find it for you and email it.
Spoil, you have not got a clue about what you are speaking of.
How one person can be so misguided and so blinkered is beyond me!
Why are you so intent on living your life by Hell fire and Damnation? Do you really want to live in fear?
It sounds to me as if you are paying penance for things you have done wrong in the past! God does not judge you. The priests of old created Satan, the Devil or whatever other name you wish to give to this fictional creature and he does not exist! Not in reality anyway.
You still haven't shared with us the name of your wonderful religion? You smack of being a Baptist.
When I go to the States I love to watch the God Channel on your TV, just to see how downright stupid some people can be to be fooled, misled and misguided into such a tragic, fearful and fearing way of life.
God did not intend this life to be so. You are making that way all by yourself.
You do not, nor will you frighten me.
The spirit world have never frightened me and I have been speaking with them since young childhood.
I am glad that I know the LIght and the Love of God. To know that this life is not the end, to know that I will go back home to the spirit world when the time is right for me.