Seriously, The first and only true church was established in acts chapter 2. The apostle Paul set up many additional congerations(not more churches) throughout the region.He later wrote letters to them dealing mainly with the theme that those christians were no longer under moses law and the ten commandments but, he also dealt with problems of daily living and some doctrinal issues.These congerations were organized a certain way. The leaders started meeting in a central location to also discuss issues and problems. The church stayed pure for several centuries but, as man will do, someone wanted to be the dictator - hello pope.This was the first departure from the true one and was predicted on 1 Timothy 4.All those in exhistance today followed.All of them are counterfit churches.What i am saying is, go back and re-establish the original one, the only true one. Some say there and many different paths to heaven. Sounds good but, the bible does not teach any such doctrine, it teaches just the opposite. Hope that answeres your question.
Dear Ms.Seriously, maybe you should be more careful with your assumptions. I wrote and published a book titled, "Divorced At The Courthouse But Not In Heaven" (AuthorHouse) and before it went to print, manuscript copies were send to many preachers of different beliefs and not a one disagreed with me. Why, because the divorce laws were written in so easy to understand language that there isnt any room for debate over it. The only real difference most beliefs had was, the wrong assumption that Jesus was talking to BOTH men and women - he wasnt.Now, they can see that.It says what it says.The problem isnt that, the problem is, if it applies to a certain person and they dont want it to be that way, they come up with all kinds of excuses, trying to get out of it.
Here is my take on Spoils. He will not show himself because I believe he is still married and can not divorce his wife because God will not allow him. So, he is on this site trying to find some young chickie to spend some cash on so he can Sew His Old Wild Oats that he has not been able to do. He will not show his face because he is AFFRAID someone will catch him and break the bad news to his wife. And really Spoils IF you had a million dollars to be stolen, you should really protect your money a little better instead of putting it between your matress and box spring for all the ladies to take when you are finished with them. STOP your negativity toward everyone on this forum and STOP pretending to be someone you are not. You are making everyone ill.
iN CONT. WHEN PREG. WITH MY SON 11#, LOST 15#.wITH MY DAUGHTER 18# LOST 20#. WORE ONE SIZE UP IN PANTS AT 9 MOS. SO SORRY NO STRETCH MARKS AND NO SAGGY BOOBS. TRY AGAIN!
Better hope you dont get stopped by the police and your makeup is running, you would get arrested for false advertising.I sure dont need comments from a harlot that has such a filthy mouth.I hope you dont call yourself a lady - that, honey, you arent
WELL THAT REMINDS ME OF A STORY.i WAS PREGNANT, GOT STOPPED MY THE COPS. i CRIED AND OH BOY WAS MY MAKEUP RUNNING. THE DAYS BEFORE WATERPROOF!!!MICHAEL TOLD HIM I WAS HAVING A BABY AND HE ESCORTED US ALMOST TO THE HOSPITAL. WE SCADOODLED OF COURSE. NO TICKET!YIPEE. THAT WAS A STORY TO REMEMBER.
ok spoils agreed i have not seen you so we will let that one go. you can tell me till doomsday you look good but i do not know that as i have not seen you. But in answer to your question not one thing sagging here
you just dont learn do you?WHAT IS THERE TO LEARN FROM YOU??? You just cant keep that big mouth shut. When are you goping to learn to just leave me alone? WELL I DID FOR A VERY LONG TIME. YOU ARE BEING A NUISANCE. Are you really that hard headed? NO NOT REALLY BUT I DO HAVE MY MOMENTS!!
You know, you crack me up telling guys that they cant keep up. IF YOU COULD READ I STATED THAT OLDER WOMAN HAVE A HIGH SEX DRIVE AND THE MEN AT THAT AGE ARE SLOWING DOWN AND MANY CAN NOT KEEP UP. I SEE IT ALL THE TIME. I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME. BUT I ALSO SAID THAT DOES NOT PERTAIN TO ALL 50+ AS MANY CAN AND DO..
I guess not when all you do is lay on your back and yell, "give it to me baby". i'LL LEAVE THAT COMMENT TO YOU WITH YOUR YOUNG WOMAN. i HAVE NEVER SAID THAT ONE AND DO NOT INTEND TO START..
Try doing all the work THEN, lets see how long you last. SORRY CHARLIE I DO A LOT OF THE WORK AND I CAN LAST LIKE THAT ENERGIZER BUNNIE I SPOKE OF.LET'S SEE MY BEST FANTASY OF HOW MUCH TO MAKE LOVE WOULD BE. TWICE A DAY 3 IF YOU SQUEEZE HARD ENOUGH. EVERYDAY FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT 10 YRS...CARE TO TRY IT. OF COURSE IT IS JUST A FANTASY BECAUSE MOST OF US DON'T HAVE THE TIME...
Overweight? I dont think so.At least, my doctor sure differs with you and says i have the body and endurance of a 30 year old. WELL LETS SEE AT 58 ,I'D HAVE TO SEE THAT ONE TO BELIEVE IT SO LETS MOVE ON AS IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.Besides, he has seen me, you havent and if i was you,after i took my make up off and looked like a mack truck had hit me, my boobs sagged to my belly button and i had more streach marks that the rock mountains had curves, i sure would say a thing about anyone elses physical appearance. It is very easy to get an airbrushed pic now days. WELL SPOILS SINCE I AM VERY USE TO YOUR DEROGATORY REMARKS AGAINST WOMEN WHEN YOU ARE MAD. IT'S LIKE WATER OFF THE BACK. JUST DISAPPEARS. i PUT EVERY PIC I HAVE UP HERE FRESH OFF THE CAMERA WITH NO ADD ONS. SORRY TO DISAPOINT ...
dee5. Interesting. However, you missed several key points. History shows women never had the right to divorce their husbands for any reason. Paul wrote most of the books we call the New Testament so, it is the bible.Being an eunuch is an option, the divorce laws arent an option. Paul also wrote that one must rightfully divide the word of truth. I did that, you didnt. All the reasoning you did contained zero proof to the contrary of what i wrote about the divorce laws.
**bbd, Steel and KatieGrl**.....Thank you Girls for your thoughts. You are all "my kind of people" and may we all hit the proverbial "lady's room" together....just not too soon.
I, for one, don't think I've been so evil that I will be headed south when I die. Neither do I think that of each of you. We all have our so called crosses to bear, but in the end, all things considered, we all end up, bodily, in the ground. Where our souls go from there is anyone's guess, but I refuse to be told by a stranger (Spoils) that just because I didn't divorce according to God's word, that I am going to Hell. Everyone makes their own Heaven or Hell when they're alive.. What's the difference when you're dead, besides the fact that wherever you end up, it's for eternity.....
I would like to contest Steelemagnolia's absolute dismissal of the notion that a younger woman may actually be with an older man out of love and not merely financial reasons. Growing up with an abusive step-father and mentally ill mother who was consistently hospitalised, from a young age I was responsible for looking after my two younger brothers. At age 14 I was cashing my mothers welfare, paying the rent, cooking, cleaning and going to school etc. At 16 I left home and moved to London, rented an apartment, finished my education, worked around and travelled Europe and the U.S for a year and am now studying a BA in Philososhy at a top 3 British university. Everything I have aquired thus far (including financially) has, and will always be, honestly mine.Apoligies for the mini-bio :).. I just think its important to bear in mind that, although age of course denotes experience, youth does not always equate lack of life's lessons. I tend to date older men because (if my exs are anything to go by!) I genuinely feel more of a connection with them. And by them, I mean them, and not their paypackets! Best wishes x
Spoils.....I won't ask for which of God's reasons you are divorced, but if it's because your wife wasn't a Christian and you are, then I'll be truthful and tell you that if it had been me, I'd have walked out on your Bible preachin azz as well.
Like Babydol, I also don't attend church, but I do have my own relationship with God. The reason I don't go to church is because I refuse to have that man standing up on the pulpit telling me how to live my life, when he is probably not living his according to God's word. Not only that, hypocrits abound under that church roof. I don't need to go to church to say my prayers. God hears everyone, no matter where they pray.
I will also add one more statement. If God expects women to be abused, criticized, and have their spirits beaten down by their husbands, then He isn't a very understanding God, and I will be more than happy to follow man's law and be happy that I am divorced according to that piece of paper. As long as man's law says I'm divorced, then I am NOT an adultress and if I chose to sleep with a man, that's MY business. If that makes me a bad person, then so be it.
D*** How many words are 2000?? They cut off my spoils and marriage.
Tomi said it well BS to you.There are too many reasons to leave a marriage some very good. If i was being abused or beaten or sexually assaulted by my husband,kids being abused sexually or otherwise. Those are the best reasons to get out. It involves many lives. It is worse then your spouse F***ing around and that is bad enough. Your Bible which states all of this must have been written by sadistical men. If we are to forfeit happiness with someone else just to live by a book who has ? who wrote it in the first place, then i say BS on that one. I would not just be a doormat the rest of my life just because you don't think i am not divorced from the sorry jerk! Are we in your eyes to be unhappy for the next 50 yrs because you think we should follow whatever is in that bible. I don't think God intended that for us. You and your bible thumping is getting very old and no one wants to hear it anymore but as i know you it will go onanonanonanon. So we must have patience and do our due diligence. It is your way or no way. Too bad i like my way and i am a very good person and i will one day go to heaven or the 4th dimention or wherever we end up. You should practice what you preach wanting those 18 Y/O. Thats disgusting and perverted...Now hopefully this willget posted...
Steel, i was asked a question, i gave the answere and wasnt "preaching" to anyone. My point wasnt to argue the fairness of the divorce laws, it was to tell you the answere to the question of why.Personally, no, i dont think it is fair to women.What i think in that reguards doesnt matter. What does matter is do what it says without my personal reasoning.The reason given that women are to be in subjection to her husband was that adam was created first and that the woman was deceived. Our thinking is, well, ole adam took a bite too so, he is just as guilty. I know exactly what you went through, i have heard your story hundreds and hundreds of times and agree that most men dont have a clue. The problem most time is that women married against all advice, she saw ahead of time, the bad traits he was showing but, all they knew was, they were in love so, is that Gods fault or hers? Is it Gods fault that most didnt study and find out what the divorce laws were. No, they wait until they finally see what a jerk they married, want out and seek to get out any way they can and justify their actions.Where did you get that the bible is outdated? If it was the year 4,000, what is written would still apply.Jesus said, "heaven and earth shall pass away but, my words will never pass away".It applied for all time. As the wife, you have a right to leave him, just not divorce him and it also tells you that you must remain unmarried.If you dont like that, your arguement isnt with me, i only told you what it says, your arguement is with God. When God said the two shall be one flesh, talking about marriage, have you ever seen a body with two heads? Two presidents at the same time? Two head coaches? No, things cant be that way.Men have the right idea, yes, they are to be the head of their wife however, most think that means they are the boss or just got appointed Mr.dictator instead of the instructions to love her as himself and be willing to die for her because he lo...
OK BK it's your turn. I have listened to everything you have said and the one thing i can say about your GF, if that is what she is, is that i feel very sorry for her right now. Because of the reasons you stated she will one day move on and so will you. Have you ever sat down and asked her how she feels. Would she tell you if she could. Her emotional state is quite fragile at that age.Falling in love at that age is very emotionally draining and i am sure she will end up very hurt because she does not have the maturity to know how to handle that. So in essense you are doing a very destructive thing to her. She can't keep up with you mentally and if she can then that does not say much for you. But you seem like a very level-headed man. So i presume she is a play thing at this stage.For "Fun" you said. If she has that mindset that you are just a passing fancy then you are "saved by the bell' But then that shows me she is emotional not able to give which in itself will hinder her in her later yrs. with relations. I remember how i was at that age. I fell "in love" with most of my BF. We all did and each knock is a lesson learned on picking a better choice each time.Sometimes one we never learn. One of each of our downfalls is we have all thes certain types of guys in our younger days and it sets the tone for the type of men we continually keep taking. Only when we can sit down see what is happening and work on changing the characteristics we want in our life partner will we all find true happiness. Whether it be that bad boy sydrone or the best lookers, it does not matter. Both have there drawbacks because that is all we look for. Not depth until it sometimes is too late to change. I truly believe that in the back of a mind of a man who only dates women considerably younger is a man who does not want to grow up. In body or mind. But the body does get older and so they get younger and younger. (Spoils this ones for you) Than we have our men wh...
Ok we have had a hell of a good discussion on this one and i have watched from afar. SF i have to say that was an exquisite post that you wrote on this. I concur on older woman dating and marrying younger men. Not too much younger of course. I would not want to date a 25 Y/O or even a 30 Y/O. They have nothing to say of great importance. Experience is the key. As far as sexually you hit it right on the head(no pun intended gents) Over all older men can't hold a candle to older woman. I have met very few men at the 50 mark who can keep up with me as with many of the woman i know in that same situation. I dated a man for 7 yrs on an off and we went from great together as to him getting not so good the older he became. Now mind u there are still 50 Y/O men who can go on and on like the energizer bunny. But where are they. HEY I AM OVER HERE! HERE I AM !!!!
One of the reasons older woman like younger men is because they can be taught how to be better lovers and many younger men will tell you that is why they like being with older woman. You can't mold a 55 yr old he is molded already and melting.(again this is not all 55 Y/O's. Most men no matter what age do not have the ability for intimacy not to be confused with lovemaking. With both it is wonderful.
Spoils i can almost quarantee with certainty that you would never get a women who was close to your age by 10/15 yrs. You are over weight and probably lacking or schrivelled from lack of use. And yes gents the old saying if you don't use it ,you loose it is quite true from a physical standpoint. An 18 -25 or whatever your preference is for the day is too immature to know the difference so will be grateful for the attention along with the pocket change you dish out. Hey it's a freeby. Most of us are aware of your trangressions in that area. There is not an 18 yr. old who would be interested in you as a person. It's like screwing their grandfather. A very gross thought i assure you. Addressing your marriage theory. ...
Spoil? After all of your quoting and references, I had to open up the family Bible and find out for myself (using the references you made). Now let me get this straight? you say that Jesus was not talking to women about divorce? So if that's the case, then the divorce "rules" do not apply to women, only to men. Women can therefore divorce for any reason whatsoever? according to your interpretation. Ladies, did you get that? BTW, this same chapter in Mathew also refers to becoming a eunuch for God? just thought I'd point that out. I mean are you planning on following every word of the Bible, or are you just picking and choosing? Also, have you actually read Corinthians, or has someone just provided you with a summary? Isn't that entire book about Paul's teachings? I don't recall any Bible stating that we must follow the word of Paul? but I could be wrong. Also, it says clearly in the chapter you refer to "But I say this by permission and not by commandment." Perhaps you should stop preaching and start reading. There's nothing worse than a religious zealot misquoting the Bible for their own purpose.
TomiGirl, if you're going to Hell, I'll tag along. (-like girls going in pairs to the club's ladies' room.)
Spoil's quotes from the Bible are irrelevant. This isn't a pulpit and there's no congretation here, so sermons really are ineffective in swaying anyone's opinion. Besides, too often that repeatedly re-written tome, alleged to be the "word of God" to some, and considered to be a "Book of Legends" by others, is only ever interpreted to the advantage of the fundamentalist quote-er, usually doing the quoting to strike at the undeserving.
Who cares, really?
Brad, then it's a good thing I didn't live in those times. I would've 'bucked the system' and demanded my rights as a human being, even at the risk of being stoned or whatever. But that was then and this is now. Times have changed, and women have the same rights as men do. What's good for you is good for me. If you don't want to be stuck in a marriage where the woman walks all over you, cheats on you, uses you for your money, and then tosses you aside when you nolonger are of any use to her, then believe me when I say today's laws give a woman the same right to NOT put up with that bs either. It's called 'divorce.'
TomiGirl, you go girl! You are my kind of people and tell it like it is. You are beautiful inside and out, and though you learned in a not so great way, you now realize a man does not validate who you are. And you're a much wiser person because of that. So it wasn't all in vain. You hang in there and never lose hope. Without hope, you will have lost everything.
Tomi, i dont think so. You can say all day that you are a duck but, that doesnt make you one. If you are going to CLAIM you are divorced then, on what basis are you divorced? Your own feling of you want it that way or on book, chapter and verse. If you divorced for the wrong reason then, God says you are an adultresses and the scriptures say that,adultresses will definately not make it to heaven. Humans arent swine where sexual partners can be changed at every whim. Wishing you were divorced doesnt divorce anyone - doing it by what God says does. You have the right to leave him but, you cant divorce him unless it is by Gods way, not your way and if it isnt by Gods way then, the paper you have from mans law is absolutely worthless.Is it Gods fault or your fault that you chose a bad husband? Yes, i do have a valid divorce based on one of the two reasons the bible gives that one can divorce.