People like Kenneth Lay and Charles Keating were religoius men. God wanted them to loot Enron and the Savings and Loan industry of billions of dollars. The child abusing preachers and priests felt the same way.
People who are pious are every bit as likly to do wrong as athiests. Its just that they feel less doubt about if they are doing and feel better about themselves when they do things.
Faith has no place in my mind, because who are you gonna believe? You can't trust anybody except yoy, there is only one truth and it's the one that's always been inside you, and you KNOW it.
Science feeds us nearly as much shit as relgion does. Question everything.
One night while partying it up I recived a 2am call from outside the country by a woman I had never met.
On speaker phone my buddy and I listened for 2 hours as she ran through my life story and significant events in my life. Things NOBODY could know or knows.
Alternating between crying a kind of rejoice, gibberish (tongues I'm now told), and English she told me I had been chosen at birth, what for I shall not elaborate, but being an atheist, I was told I had still been serving and had served God well, amongst thieves and various criminal types that I hung with rather regularly down on a Cairbbean island.
I was praised for discerning the deserved (supposedly the poor people I had helped - chosen by me as to who was and wasn't a conivnig shiester) and apparently "helping hs people".
I was also told the story of Jesus, who had been a regular bad boy as well, and the crowd of criminals he ran with. Was told he gets his "generals" from the "intelligent soldiers" who have walked that path, trials and tribulations to prepare me. I was also told not to worry about the worship, church, and relgions, which I had basically shunned, how they would get whats due and that a special time was to occur, within 2 years (that was 1 year ago) that would mean lots of bad stuff happening but after that, good times.
My point is, my information says just love everyone and it's not the end, it's the beginning that's coming.
Freak and a phone or something divine, I can't be sure, but it's what I always thought anyway as far as how to live. It is what make sense. Don't you just FEEL it anyway? Every one of us will always act and do what seems right for us in our cirumstance at any given time, that's just how we are wired. So don't sweat. Do as you feel is right and you are IN.
Got it second hand from ... whoever the caller was talking to. And we are not here except to enjoy the gift, LIFE. Enjoy the journey, live and let live.
Who are you gonna believe, ME? Nope. Believe in yourself. It's the only source you can be sure of and you have always known right from wrong.
Oh no! End Of The World Prophecy.... how original. Though it hardly matters... even if it is true (which, um, it isn't) then you could safely say that 99.9999% of all people who have ever and will yet live are totally and completely unaffected by Armageddon. Why? Because they have already died and went to heaven or hell or purgatory or New Jersey or whatever. The only good that the End of Times does is let a very, very tiny number of people say "HA! Told ya so!" True, that would be great fun for the believers.
Alas, it shall never come to pass. But it's good to have goals..... ;)
Your argument for the ???positives and negatives??? of believing in God (or any god) is, I am afraid, hardly original. I refer you to Pascal's Wager. You might google it if you are interested in researching this particular theistic thread. However the wager is flawed conceptually because it misses two very critical points:
The first of these is that the same wager can be said of any fabricated belief. For instance, the belief that alien beings from another dimension created our universe and will be very displeased if we do not worship them. Or to be more down-to-earth, so to speak, any religion that contradicts any other. The bottom line is, as a matter of empirical logic, that they cannot all be true.
The second point is that the wager is disconnected from the cost associated with religion and blind faith???s underpinnings: dogmatism. This cost can be measured in the misappropriation of resources, the suffering of those who must die (whoever your side believes the heretics to be), and the fanaticism that drives men to irrational courses of action too many to iterate here.
The fact that a majority of people believe in a god says nothing about the truth of that statement. There was a time when virtually everyone believed the world was flat, and to suggest otherwise was not just considered idiocy but heresy. Truth is not a popularity contest.
The beauty and grander of the universe, from the tinkle in a baby???s eyes to the awesome fireworks of a galactic cluster fills everyone with a sense of wonder. But it is the skeptic, the scientist that turns that wonder into action; asking the probative questions and applying scientific processes to push back the darkness and expand our understanding. And in doing so exposes all of us to even greater wonders than the constrained and bizarre world so poorly illuminated by the popular religious text.
The world isn???t flat, and the tsunami was not the act of any god I would ever worship even if he did exist.
you've made you point on your faith and what you believe however not true for all people. If that's what you believe great, and I'm happy you find contentment in that faith.
But I still believe there is more then one path to the same place......and so do those who are Jewish, Budhist, Moslim, Catholic or whatever.
They are not wrong, just different. After all isn't peace, tolerance and harmony amongst all people part and parcel of the whole thing?
When we allow others to have their own belief system, we are being tolerant and loving towards them.....isn't that part of being a Christian?
Man, didn't we just open up a can of worms. For all those atheist out there, I would advise you, though it should be a given, to look at it from an objective stand point. What are the positives and negatives if there isn't a God?...What are the plus and minuses if there is one and you don't believe?... Sorry, but that burning in hell eternally is a bigger negative than believing in something that a mojority of this world beleives in regardless of perspectives or religions. It being the end of days?...It is something that is inevitable, atheist or not. There seems to be too many arguments as for the
Bible or Evolution. So, I think it is a combination of two. How exactly, haven't quite got the specifics down but give me a sec... One would have to blind to think that this beautiful universe that we live in was created out of chaos. Have you not seen some of the pictures sent back by the Hubble? Have you not looked into a baby's eyes? Those things of such beauty, eloquence, purity and innocence could only by created by some benevolent being. Please note, that only a blind man sees with his eyes. They have decripted out of the Bible that the world is suppose to end by the result of a meteor hitting us in 2012. There is also a decription saying that will "broken apart..." by Him. Point being, this world is what we make of it. If you have been fortunate enough to acquire or earn a certain income, help those that don't have as much time as the rest of us. Ultimately, time waits for no one and you can only buy so much...
First ,I believe that the Tsumani, hurricanes happening more, landslides etc. are majorly to due with global warming, and shifting geographical plates on the earth, not some rath of God.
Second, if we don't accept Christ as our saviour , does that mean the most devoted Jewish, Mulsim, Buddist person is not just as "Christian" as in Christ like, in their ways? And then they will go to hell because they didn't believe in the same way as you?
Sorry I don't buy that there is only one way to believe in God. He may come by different names to the religion, place of origin you or your family is from but I think there are many paths to the same place.
He may be Buddha, Allah, or Jesus, depending where you are and what you believe however you can't tell me that there is only , one right way to Heaven.
Goodness, honesty, lack of sin comes from within and your own spirituality with whomever you call Him/Her, your God.
Putting down others because they don't believe, or believe in the same way as you isn't Christ like behaviour either, remember patience and tolerance?
So my God I refer to as my Higher Power, is loving patient , understanding, forgiving and kind, not a thunder bolt and lightning out to get you guy/gal!
There are some real problems with taking the bible and scripture too seriously. First, you are reading in in english and not the orignal language. Second, these writings were heavily edited by the Catholic church for about 1000 years. Third, the the context of these writings is 2000 years old. We have no idea what they really meant.
God loves to forgive. That is why he made us the way we are. An all powerful god could have made us anyway he wanted. He made us this way. The same god made Osama Bin Laden, Pat Roberston, and me.
The only explanation for this is that he more we sin the more he loves us. It's either that or he just enjoys watching us suffer. I'll believe the former, just because if its the latter I'm going to suffer anyway.
First, the bible is NOT merely a collection of stories. Anyone that has spent an hour researching will find the books of the BIBLE are based on literal scrolls found in ancient ruins. These accounts of Jesus and miracles etc were done by eye witnesses. Therefore the credibility is obviousl That being said, I believe we are in the END Times, but we should live acoountable as if today could be the day of the rapture. Frankly in my experience, those folks that dont belive in teh bible or the idea of heaven and hell and those consequences, are merely grasping to that idealogoy because they doint want to give up sin in their lives. YES sin feels good and being a "good person" isnt enough to go to heaven. The acceptance of Christ as our savior and sacrficie for sin is the only way. We can say , if youd like, "to each their own" but the signs of all prophecies are now in progress, and there is a price to be paid for unbelief, and its eternal
You're not alone in feeling this way. I myself have thought this through time and time again since 9/11.
Let's take a look at all the starnge weather changes, hurricanes, floods and snow storms. Here in the mountains of VA where I live, it's 60 degree's/ That is far from normal weather in January. Especially for the mountains.
It seems like it's one disaster after another. The tsunami, numerous hurricanes in the Florida area, flooding through out the Arizona area and even snow storms in several central states.