My God Katie, you've been out with some rough ones, did they leave the toilet seat up , drop dirty washing on the floor, squeeze the toothpaste from the top.
There are guys out there who commit any of these heinous crimes, but are still bad' boys
Lombard write: But, Katiegirl, farting and belching are funny, aren't they? I think, in fact, that they are the highest form of humor.
Your post also confirms my position. You want a conditional manly man, which is contradictory. Manly men may not accept your criteria of judgement, or even notice them, because manly men make their own rules. You are perfectly free to reject the jocular farter, and they are perfectly free to fill the air with their fragrant masculinity, and never the twain shall meet.
Besides, I know when a relationship is good when my partner is unafraid to fart and belch in front of me.
So, despite our veneer of civility and higher education, we men are juvenile and self -centered. As long as we get that clear, our two species can co- exist.
Sunshine, I'm glad to see your smiling face back on.
As for our illogical fantasies, any man who reveals them in public would be permanantly marked as a troll. However, we all grew up wanting to be James Bond, with all that it implies.
Lombard write: This one of my favorite topics. The specific question is about "manly men", but the real question being asked is why can't I find someone who has all the dangerous manly qualities I like, except that he is honest, loyal, considerate, faithful and smells good. Some desires are just mutually exclusive. Manly men are usually that way because they are not self - examining people. They are forces of nature. This self sufficiency can come across as cruelty. The lack of self reflection can come off as narrowmindedness. He might persue his manly persuits at the expense of the relationship. After rebuilding the 1968 Charger, playing poker with the boys, going hunting in Canada, going to the drag races and hanging out at Diamond Girls with Cheyenne and Savanah, there may not be much room for Foreign films and Sushi.
THe reality is that every woman wants a bad boy so that they can tame him But then he won't be a bad boy anymore , and you will lose interest.
Don't worry. We men have just as illogical fantasies.
Lombard, I so do not want a "bad boy." What I DO want is a fun, confident, adventurous, self-assured man and I have met them. They DO exist! They're attractive, (to me) nice, thoughtful and ... "fragrant."
I'm not into foreign films and chick flicks. I hate raw fish, while I simultaneously don't mind if a man is into auto mechanics, poker, fishing - because hunting is barbaric, and so on. I just want men who don't commit the following unforgiveable sins:
- Farting or belching in front of women and thinking it's funny,
- Teaching young boys to fart and belch in front of women because it's funny,
- Leaving tons of stuble in their bathroom sinks,
- Not putting real toilet paper on the the bathroom tissue roller,
- wearing socks with sandals,
- believing, with every fiber of their being, that porn is real and is how we really want sex,
- making dinner if they're gonna use every bloody pot and pan in the house.
- backwashing into the milk carton,
That's about it! I'm sure there's others but these'll do for now.
Oh. The reason I'm not with an adventurous guy now? They're married already!
Tell us some of your illogical fantasies and we'll tell you if it's possible to turn fantasy into reality.
Sweetie as much as agree with your sensetive approach ..OP, is 18 and she is clearly stating that she is after a manly man. not a brotherly father figure, altough she might think that this is what she will get in a manly man a father/brother figure. she might be in a suprise .So If we want her to survive in the diretion that she has chosen then we better give her an advice which fits and helps in her journey. Now we all know what a manly man is about.., and no place for a shrinking violet when she is facing caos of emotions and let downs. I wish the world out there was pure and inisant. But it is not so. However, as much as we try to protect our daughters from heart breaks, simply we can not... they usualy have to face the world alone and learn it in the hard way. kisses
I am only guessing, she can speak for herself, but her role model for a manly man is probably her brother or father. I am not inferring that she is looking for a father or brother figure. Not in the least. Early modeling is how perceptions are formed. It is said, that a girl must resolve issues with her Father or she is destined to marry him, again and again.
Perhaps I am coming off as contradictory to your advise, when I am gilding the lily. All points of view are valid.
alexiaa write: How eloquently put. However we women are sensitive and most of us really very insecure, which drives many of us to become control freeks,and ruins many relationships, this starts from our childhood years. It is inbred in our code of upbringing due to the competition out there.We girls have a tremendous pressure applied on us in order to get the breast of the chicken on a dinning table and but we got the breast of the chicken it is easy to stomack then we start to wish that we had the bonny pieces,becuse they are more challanging. I believe a relationship with a bad boy requires balancing act. if you meet a bad boy be a bad girl. Just turn the tables around. You will see that your relationship will improve drasticaly. kisses
Not to detract from the budding romance in the earlier posts, but L, A, remember that the OP is only 18. Her perspective is far different from yours or mine. Do not think that she is as jaded as the rest of us.
Little sister is so young, she is most likely looking for someone like her Dad or brothers. It could very well be that things are different on the west coast, Lombard. Here the metrosexual male is common. In my age group, the pressure to preserve youth to be competitive in the work place is nearly as strong for men as it is for women. In this quest the traditional gender lines become blurred and for most of us women, we start longing for a man who is not as complicated as we are.
RapturousRed write: He is a cutie and a fine young man. His dad still lives in San Jose and in fact was just out there recently. He was born in CA but raised here. Has that special blend....oh, there I go again - sorry! But now I'm thinking...oh my gosh, aren't you officially 'jail bait' for him since he's over 21?! I'll be in touch...
Search for "age of consent CA" and look for the "ageofconsent" place...
261.5. (a) Unlawful sexual intercourse is an act of sexual intercourse accomplished with a person who is not the spouse of the perpetrator, if the person is a minor.
For the purposes of this section, a "minor" is a person under the age of 18 years and an "adult" is a person
who is at least 18 years of age.
(b) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor who is not more than three years
older or three years younger than the perpetrator, is guilty of a misdemeanor.
HoldinOutForAHero write: your son is cute!!! if you can message me, and i'll give you my email
He is a cutie and a fine young man. His dad still lives in San Jose and in fact was just out there recently. He was born in CA but raised here. Has that special blend....oh, there I go again - sorry! But now I'm thinking...oh my gosh, aren't you officially 'jail bait' for him since he's over 21?! I'll be in touch...
It is best not to toss a grunter out in to the night, especially in a full moon. That is unless it wasn't very satisfying. ROFLMAO... You never know when you might want to get grunted again in the morning!
HoldinOutForAHero write: lets see... my definition of a "manly man" like i said.. a man who enjoy's his sports.. works on the cars on the weekend, likes getting dirty, the list can go on, sunshine was pretty dead on...
And no i'm not looking for the guy that's a sexist pig... you know the traditional 40's man..thinks my only place is in the kitchen
the whole thing on the age.. i've been known to date up to 10 yrs older then me.. so i think they would be a bit 'mature" by the time they are 28
so coming to a conclusion.. the only guys that i have dated are just the GQ guys that think all I want are expensive dinners and nice jewlery (which arent bad) but I want a guy who i can take to a baseball game, drink a beer with, and actually have him understand the game.. it's rediculous how much guys have come unglued from "america's favorite past time"
That helps better define what 'manly man' means to you, HOFAH, and that's really what I was looking for.
Maybe you should cosider moving to the midwest. Having lived in CA, I know the men there are a unique breed and many who are self-centered and focused on how they look, what they have, what they're going to have, etc. Unless they came from somewhere else, then they're not quite as bad. Midwest guys are, in general, more earthy.
Hey, check out my son (he's in a pic in my profile). He's 22, has most of the characteristics you're looking for (he doesn't labor with his hands, though)but loves his sports, often takes his dates to sporting events (if they know what's the game's about), hanging out with friends to shoot pool. Good young man, and honestly not just cuz I'm his mother!