From Russia with what? Long Distance Relationship

  • View author's info posted on Sep 22, 2006 05:38


    You have right!
  • View author's info posted on Sep 21, 2006 01:08


    are we talking about SCAM or WOMEN?

    From angry comments it comes that Russian women=SCAM. And the other conclusion - Americans are good, Russians are bad.

    Americans are wealthy, Russians are poor.

    Americans are naive and Russians are sneaky.

    American woman seeks for family life - Russian woman seeks for a Green Card and money.

    Let me tell you the truth. Stories are different.

    Yes, it is more expensive to have a Russian wife than an American one for average guy. Costs of tickets and documents, English courses, dentists for her, new car and so on. All of men realize that on first stages of these relationships. But they spend money and bring a new wife, hoping for better life. It is not so clever to say that all those men are loosers or silly and all women are gold diggers.

    If you want an easy way - no doubts, look for American wife. If you want a pain in a butt - look for a Russian wife. I dont talk here about scammers.
  • View author's info posted on Sep 20, 2006 10:09


    Don,t pay for her. Better if you like her, to visit in Russia. At least you can see, really who,s the lady.
    I know a lot of stories from usa men which was used by these russians.
    Good luck !
  • View author's info posted on Sep 17, 2006 22:42


    Hi all,

    Wow. People like to make a lot of assumptions. All I can tell you is my experience. I married Natalya in Russia and then the terrorist attacks of 9/11 hit delaying visa processes. The problem is that in the beginning, it was a big scam. She told me later that if she came to me the guy she is currently with would try to have her or I killed if she did not divorce me and then bring him here later. That is fact.

    Because we both have young children involved, the children are the only reason that more activity is not going on (i.e. to protect the children's interests).

    She told me that she would not be afraid if she knew I would kill him if he came here.

    That is the extreme of what I personally was/am involved in.

    I still have visas open and pending in the event she is brave enough to meet me in Moscow. Last I heard from her, she is not happy and thinks nothing can be done now.

    Before I married Natalya, I wanted to marry someone from Russia to be kind and share the love I had within, and so I did not have to deal with the father of my wife's child. To have that all ripped away as a scam, well you can imagine how angry I am. What Russian people do is wrong!

    I also have no problem developing relations with ladies wherever I may be, so those of you that would take the short path to insulting anyone that looks outside the USA should consider there are advantages (i.e. younger age potential, old fashioned ethics, and not having to deal with their family or ex-husbands). When you bring a woman over, if things were perfect, you can be the parent the child knows as their life long parent. A key motivator for me.

    Personally, due to a very bad first marriage with a feminist, I chose to have a vasectomy and not to degrade my life by spawning children to and fro with the intent of adopting or marrying someone with a child later. I'm a great guy with a heart the size of Texas, but I would still advise based on what I know to avoid Russia.

    Stay in the USA.
  • View author's info posted on Sep 14, 2006 04:01


    Hi, I'm from Romania. First of all please excuse my english.
    Let me explain how a poor girl from an east european country will think:

    Let's see a nice website with rich people, how can I get one. And sorry, what did you expect when you posted on a site that ask you your income to find the women of your dreams? You can buy a wife from russia :). She can be beautiful (To be honest, I have travelled a lot and I have to say that the most intersting women are in France, the most comercial women are in Italy and if you want to find a true beauty try Eastern Europe), she might be very good in bed, a good cooking also, but she didn't contact you for your soul. If you want to meet her go there, it's a nice place to visit, and don't belive all you see at tv. For example I was this summer in Bulgaria. I've heard at tv that they will steal your car and your money, that it is a bad country, and guess what: I've stayed at a 5 star hotel near the Black Sea, had everything, nice people, good food and all that you can dream - the price? 500 $ for 5 days. (Including food and all I've spend).

    So, she wants to meet you? Make a trip, if you won't like her I can assure you that you'll find a nice lady there, but don't act like you have a lot of money. Good luck.
  • View author's info posted on Sep 11, 2006 10:59


    LolenaSmiley write:
    WHY do these men NEED to go that far for Love and Romance? It brings equal concern that most men that seek women ABROAD, have some type of social dysfunction: an inability to connect with a woman of their own culture. Generally, they seek women of greater youth and beauty than they could attract here. A relationship of "unequal proportion" generally has its root in a dysfunctional aspect.
    Did any of you watch the Independent film: where the "NYC Doorman" purchased his mailorder bride and began using her for internet porn (tied to the bed in the basement), housekeeper and personal slave confined to the home? There is NO WAY, this man could attract an intelligent equal in the USA, he was severely dysfunctional, not to mention overweight and not within the standard norm "attractive" ...
    Lolena

    Dear Lolena,

    I can appreciate your perspective (especially considering the movies you've seen) but I'd like to offer a different one. I've dated quite a few women from different cultures [incidentally, what is your view of "American Culture" since, as patriotic and proud as I am, and as much as I love this country, that sounds like an oxymoron because we have little culture past "pop"], and I must say women from other countries almost invariably have a broader and deeper understanding of the world and a greater appreciation for intellectual pursuits from art and literature to politics and science than women here. Of course there are exceptions to every rule, but keep that in mind when you say most men who have an interest in dating abroad are socially dysfunctional. I've dated young women from "our culture" who are absolutely beautiful and completely within what you call "the standard norm attractive" but who have bored me to tears with talk of reality TV and designer clothing rather than anything of substance. I have found foreign women to be far more likely to be an intellectual equal than women from here.
  • View author's info posted on Sep 07, 2006 11:05


    What can I say? Sorry to sound harsh but anybody with at least a bit of common sense would not have fallen for a scam like that.
  • View author's info posted on Aug 30, 2006 09:06


    Having met, SEVERAL men, along my life journey, that have described financially devastating experiences, with Foreign Women.

    I have one very profound statement to make: WHY are AMERICAN WOMEN NOT SEEKING RUSSIAN MEN!! WHY?

    That should be the Million Dollar question you may wish to consider.

    Another question would be WHY do these men NEED to go that far for Love and Romance?
    It brings equal concern that most men that seek women ABROAD, have some type of social dysfunction: an inability to connect with a woman of their own culture. Generally, they seek women of greater youth and beauty than they could attract here.
    A relationship of "unequal proportion" generally has its root in a dysfunctional aspect.
    Did any of you watch the Independent film: where the "NYC Doorman" purchased his mailorder bride and began using her for internet porn (tied to the bed in the basement), housekeeper and personal slave confined to the home?
    There is NO WAY, this man could attract an intelligent equal in the USA, he was severely dysfunctional, not to mention overweight and not within the standard norm "attractive"
    Not to mention his conduct would have landed him in prison.
    Lolena
  • View author's info posted on Aug 29, 2006 08:23


    webiron write:
    AVOID RUSSIAN WOMEN AND THAT WHOLE SITUATION.........
    What can I say...You let your Russian wife fooled you for 5 years. Funny thing you still believe her stories about mafia, a gun to her head etc. It's a lie, she could be here long time ago if she wanted to.
    I'm sorry this situation made you mad at whole world. Any country has negatives and positives, good people and bad people and you need to REMEMBER, NOBODY IS PERFECT!!!

    By the way, you didn't say ex-Russian wife. Are you still married? If yes, may I ask what are you doing here?
  • View author's info posted on Aug 27, 2006 06:56


    AVOID RUSSIAN WOMEN AND THAT WHOLE SITUATION...

    I know from 5 years of personal experience. Huge expenses, huge lies, huge heart aches, huge scam! Nough said... not really...

    My Russian wife actually wanted to come to the USA and was afraid to because some idiot over there likely has a gun to her head. She actually fell in love with me and to this day still tells me to wait for her. Even when they want to come to be with you, sometimes the situations they are in over there are sooooo complex (i.e. mafia or the equivalent) that you cannot do anything about it.

    I also know from personal experience that when it gets that complex, the US government cannot help you either. The only way to extract a woman that is in trouble is to act as or hire mercanaries to act as your own body guard etc while you extract them assuming visas are ready in Moscow and pending them coming in for the interviews and medical exams. That takes a week in Moscow alone.

    Don't get yourself into that mess. It is sad that people are under those levels of control, but it is not our problem and don't make the mistake like I did to try and make it your problem.

    Just forget they exist. You are better off... Put the effort into some nice lady here in the USA, or in Europe at least, where they live similarly and at least speak English as a second language.

    Russia is a strange and dark place regardless of what others will have you to believe. I've been there many times, speak Russian, and know enough now to avoid it for the rest of my life.

    If you are smart, you'll take my $50K in advice because that is about what I spent on my own efforts, and when all was said and done, there is a beautiful girl and her daughter still stuck under the thumb of some tyrant that put her on the Internet to extract visas and money from me with false love and sex.

    That is what you have to look forward to potentially (likely).

    Worse if she came and took 50% of your assets too.

    Doug

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  • View author's info posted on Aug 26, 2006 09:45


    Don't feel secure? Not confident? Then forget this idea...something already bothers you about her.
    If you still need a help please feel free to contact me and I will give you some advise how to get real Russian woman.
  • View author's info posted on Aug 09, 2006 09:53


    I just read what you wrote regarding Russian women. I just wanna let you know something. I heard so many many times when men goes there to find true love and women for lifetime, that's not what they end up with.Those women are not real, they wanna get out of poor life not because they love the man. If you wanna find true love then go for women there will come from a country on the same level as USA, where women have a great job, earn good money for them self have a nice lifestyle, those women want to find true love and a man they can love..my advise to all men.. stay away from women from Russia they are not honest and true, they stay with you as long as they have to, to get a permit citizenship in USA and after that bye bye. Find women from Europe but stay far away from East Europe..is just my advise
  • View author's info posted on Jun 22, 2006 21:22


    Hurrah for the Brits on this thread, great advice. As to those who stereotype "russian" women as being all bad, obviously that's a generalization that cannot stand. I have the great fortune of living in a gorgeous California town that is visited often by women from all over the world and there are wonderful people from every country (just like the bad apples). I get an unusually large number of solicitations from women claiming to be from the FSU or from Africa. The most obvious way to tell a fake is to ask for additional photos that don't look like they were scanned from an Eastern European model catalog (i.e.-pictures from birthdays, graduations, years ago, etc...). Also, guys in the USA, don't even think about trying to date internationally if you're not willing to travel to their country first. Maybe make it part of a larger trip so that if it turns out to have been a scam, you still have plenty of vacation left. Hold on to your kidneys and don't drink anything you didn't order yourself for a couple days, then you can put your internals at risk. There are just as many incredibly beautiful and intelligent women from other countries trying to meet men here as there are men here wanting to meet them. I agree with a few posts that women from overseas tend to be more educated and cultured (sorry US girls but it's true), but that means it's more likely they can visit the US through a university o
  • View author's info posted on Jun 09, 2006 04:18


    Thanks For The Lovely Message Bambi, Good Luck to you too!
  • View author's info posted on Jun 08, 2006 13:02


    Don't do that! Russian want only for one reason in the US States..to USE YOU!
    I'm a lawyer in NYC, I know a lot of clients who was married to Russian women and can pay now alimony and child support. 99% for sure she didn't care about you, she'll use you! And after 2 yrs you'll think about me. BE WARNED!
  • View author's info posted on Jun 08, 2006 06:01


    Lol! This has been Interesting Reading, I guess we all have to do our homework here, As they do too, Imagine the Lady in question is for real, You gets a ticket for her to visit, Who
    s to say the guy the other side she is going to meet is for real?

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  • View author's info posted on Jun 06, 2006 15:05


    I can't comment on Russian ladies but I would like to reply to ottawaguy35 regarding why a young lady would want to date an older man. I have always, always fancied older men - maybe not 60 but I have certainly found 45 yr old men and sometimes older attractive. Maybe it's the not having a 'daddy syndrome' I can't say why, but I like maturity - something I wouldn't find in a guy my own age. So please don't say all young ladies are scamming - because I can guarantee you, I am certainly not.
  • View author's info posted on May 23, 2006 23:38


    What's wrong with you man?I have no respect what so ever to a men who is going to Russia,Ukraine etc. looking for a women.What's wrong with you people!Ouh...You just cannot imagine what you are getting yourself in to.But in the same time I just thinking may be you are deserve it.
    I believe that golden rule should apply-
    if you cannot attract great women here you wouldn't be able and attract her there-simple is that.
    But if you are interested in sex-tourism than it's place to be )



    I DONT THINK SOMEONE SHOULD REFER THE OTHER ONE LIKE THAT!...NO OFFENSE, ANABEL, BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU SHOULD STAY IN UK, LOOKING FOR LOCAL BRIT GENTLEMAN..... AND I HATE TO SAY THAT, BUT IF YOU HAVE NO RESPECT FOR OTHERS, YOU DO NOT DESERVE RESPECT FOR YOURSELF, SWEET LADY...THAT IS THE SECOND GOLDEN RULE YOUR MOM SHOULD TO TEACH YOU.

    BEST WISHES FROM RUSSIA

    ROX
  • View author's info posted on May 22, 2006 19:07


    To Tallblonde50.
    You are absolutly right!!!
    To fitnfla. Sorry ,but...
    What's wrong with you man?I have no respect what so ever to a men who is going to Russia,Ukraine etc. looking for a women.What's wrong with you people!Ouh...You just cannot imagine what you are getting yourself in to.But in the same time I just thinking may be you are deserve it.
    I believe that golden rule should apply-
    if you cannot attract great women here you wouldn't be able and attract her there-simple is that.
    But if you are interested in sex-tourism than it's place to be )
  • View author's info posted on May 12, 2006 09:21


    finally I have to admitt that there are some horrible scam stories.. I just got a letter from my firend.. it makes my hair curl!... Any protection against scam... if they are going to fool you around... only International investigation could help....the most disgusting thing is not because they get your money.. but because they use word LOVE to unlock you!.... that is scaring... shouldnt be like that.. best of luck for all of you!!!!.... be always careful but dont miss your chance!
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