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Posted on Thu, Jul 27, 2006 07:06

Bob, you hadnt even heard of DBT or CBT therapy which is a common method used to treat BPD and yes it is curable.

Like i said before, you will need to buy my book in 2007 and im sure it will give you all the answers your looking for eh!

Can you tell me the difference between a BPD sufferer and a mentally ill sufferer?

Because there is a difference.

I await your response Bob



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Posted on Thu, Jul 27, 2006 05:12

Teresa exactly how is BPD cureable, can you tell me where I can find information on that? Also where is the supporting information for your statement that 74% of BPDs killing themselves if they are untreated?

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Posted on Wed, Jul 26, 2006 19:05

PS wwww.123456

No one seems to of told you that

BPD IS CURABLE

Doesnt that then make your post on your excuse for so many threads, contradictory?



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Posted on Wed, Jul 26, 2006 18:59

Hi Lombard

You should be proud of yourself and what you do for your child.

I admire anyone in your position for your strength and compassion and for being such a good parent. You have every right to feel frustrated for what is beyond your control.

Do you get any support?



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Posted on Wed, Jul 26, 2006 18:22

wwww.123456

You are a classical non carer of anything. You seem to struggle with accepting people for who they are regardless.

You may want a perfect world but you are not perfect and i am sure you have things people cant stand about you but never the less you are who you are and its about accepting others as they do you and all your flaws.

Your the sort of man who would make a great executioner and i dont think thats an asset in a man. And should be a warning signal for any woman.

Your excuse for having so many posts up is not an excuse because you are obsessed with the persecution of those you find "different"



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Posted on Wed, Jul 26, 2006 10:53

Thereas I've dated over 200 women in my life, i would dare say only one of them (while I was with them anyone) exhibited any form of serious mental illness that was damaging...the BPD exGF. So your statement that men assume all problems with women are due to mental illness is pretty funny. Most problems with women are just problems...not due to a mental illness. As with men.

Lombard, it is difficult to have compassion for these people...they want what they want now with no regard for the consequences of their actions. I was really hard on my BPC ex. Really hard. Psychologically brutal in fact. Hopefully she learned something from that experience. We'll find out...if she comes back to me, then she hasn't learned a thing. The hardest thing to do is to let something go that you love by doing what they perceive as hurting them.



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Posted on Wed, Jul 26, 2006 07:42

Hi Bob,
I can totally empathize with your experiences with the lady who has bpd.
I had a similar relationship...on and off...for a five year period.
Key words are - MANIPULATION,LYING,LACK OF EMPATHY,BRILLIANT ACTORS,INFIDELITY,
OBSESSIVE AND CRUEL.
I have to say I too have never experienced anything like it...a rollercoaster....and you keeping going back for more...until I decided calmly to walk away forever.Not easy when you are dealing with the bpd as you well know.I also decided to begin healing by spending time in a peaceful setting alone....surrounded by natural beauty.Bob, I do not regret my relationship and wish the best for my ex bf.We had some fantastic times together.
Bob you will come to the total realization that this lady is not capable of an honest,loving and committed relationship.PERIOD.People in general have no idea of how much havoc this disorder can wreak on your life.I am a kind,caring and compassionate woman but I had to make a choice and put my own wellbeing first.
Bob I wish you all the best.
Mmmmmmm2002

  


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Posted on Tue, Jul 25, 2006 14:34

wwww was asked on another thread:

"Why do you start so many threads on personality disorders?"


wwww replied:

"Because I believe that certain personality disorders cause most of the troubles in the world, and that people need to learn to spot them in business and in their personal life.

We also need to help people with the non harmful ones, such as depression, because they are often in danger and can usually be helped with meds."



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Posted on Tue, Jul 25, 2006 11:54

Hi Mariana

Its nice to see your showing compassion and trying to at least address his issues without condemnation. Liars are common practice for most and they normally come in the form of men on date sites.

How often do us women come across a man that says everything they think we want to hear? almost all the time and for those of us that are not gullable, we question those men and they trip themselves up. Women naturally then go off and think about what the man has said whilst the man doesnt give it a second thought because he assumes we believe him and off he goes without a care in the world. And before we know it he is telling porkies/lies so often we find it hard to believe anything he says. That situation can often lead to women starting to feel insecure because when a man is caught out lying he then blames the woman and tells her she is imagining it or "mad" lol Then for some reason we question ourselves. Why do we do that?

Come on ladies, how many men say the women they have dated have personality issues or mad? most of them. Thats their answer for everything. Then the men tell all their mates your "mad" too, just because you have a mind of your own. And before you know they all want you in a straight jacket when all you done was said "no" to them or not play ball.

And RRed if you believe bob then fool for you because your asking a man who himself has been mentally unstable. Hardly the best character witness eh or justified help for your sister? What do you think you can do to help? run up to every man that finds your sister thrilling and exciting, tell them she is "mad" ????

Out of interest RRed does it bother you that your sister can attract men despite her BPD and you find you cant get the same reaction from men without an issue?



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Posted on Tue, Jul 25, 2006 11:34

Teresa2084, you are making a fool of yourself. Your posts are not very entertaining, informative, helpful, or educational, -- which are needed on threads like this one.



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Posted on Tue, Jul 25, 2006 10:47

And by the way

If anyone has any issues here it has got to be wwww.12345 hasnt it because he is more than obsessed with disorders and has so many threads up now that im suprised he can keep track of them all.

Or doesnt obsession count as a disorder?

I guess its one rule for one and another rule for those making the rules as they go along.

It amazes me that one man has a BPD himself and he still has it regardless of what he proclaims on being cured its that obvious and yet he makes excuses for blaming it onto his ex whom i might add got it because of someone else but yet her problem doesnt matter because bob says so, and then we have RREd here discussing her sister without her consent and sees bob as the saviour to all her sisters needs and yet her need to find out what bob gets up to makes no difference to her sister at all. Then we have wwww.123456 who is more obsessed than anyone with any compulsive or personality disorders to the max which indicates he too has issues.

Hmm interesting eh!

I have an obsession, i am obsessed with counceling people from all walks of life, kids, adults both men and women and Im also obsessed with my 15 cats.



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Posted on Tue, Jul 25, 2006 10:42

If I had a sister that I knew would hurt people and destroy lives, I would let the world know it. That goes for any relative or anyone else I even know.

so sue me.



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Posted on Tue, Jul 25, 2006 10:02

123456

for someone who makes out he knows so much, you know so little.

it would seem that mens ability to blame those other than themsleves goes to show why you are single.

Have you ever considered to stop making out because you have money that you are not so issue free?

Because if you were so loving and kind or compassionate, none of you could be bothered with all that money you say you make to simply get counciling for anyone you proclaim to have feelings for. therefor you are not into that person on a feelings basis, your into that person for all the wrong reasons and to blame them for what is possibly also your mistake. No man is so perfect he doesnt contribute to a persons problems. So lets not kid ourselves shall we. Im under no illusuion but clearly you are and think your perfect when your far from it. You just look for excuses. Men are so fickle that to compare a woman to a war veteran with the same personality issue, the man would string up the woman and and put a medal on the war veteran.



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Posted on Tue, Jul 25, 2006 02:53

bobsthename write:
RR, what is the ugly dark side that you see?

bob, the angry, ugly side and her actions during this period are things
I'd rather not talk about publicly.
Have you seen this woman "crash"? Those not taking their meds will - it's just a matter of when. Think about it and if you really want to know, drop a private e-mail and I'll talk about it off line if you promise to keep it private.



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Posted on Mon, Jul 24, 2006 20:04

RR, what is the ugly dark side that you see?



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Posted on Fri, Jul 21, 2006 16:55

Bob, thanks for the man's view. I guess the signs are just more obvious when you've known the person for so long than it does to the unsuspecting person. You describe (a part of) that sister to a tee. I'll bet there's an a very angry, ugly side too that (as I) choose simply not to divulge to the world at large.

Teresa, PLEASE do me a personal favor and stop asking me such ridiculous and antagonistic questions.

Lombardy's situation is very different from either mine or Bob's situation. Further - and more importantly - he knows my compassion toward his situation and as a person in general.



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Posted on Thu, Jul 20, 2006 07:31

wwww Bill? I agree with you... I treated my BPD with compassion and respect for the first six months until I realized I was just a pawn in a mentally ill game. The extremes of emotions I expressed - both love and hate at levels that have to be 10 - I never experienced in my entire life. I came out of this knowing love and hate fully...and she fed off that.

but I learned (as did she learn to manipulate even better) and I drew boundaries and lines in the sand. The last time, when she started making false accusations and conspiracy thoughts, my "hate" mode kicked in and I propagated her thinking. and then I walked away because she went over the boundary. and she goes back yet again, for probably the 50th time, to repeat her cycle with her ex.



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Posted on Wed, Jul 19, 2006 19:57

Many disorders feed off of the lifeblood and emotions of others.

If you continue to feed a predator it will get stronger.

If you continue to feed a disorder the person with the disorder will learn nothing and you will be encouraging them to continue. You can encourage them to get help without becoming one of their food sources.

Its "tough love", but unless you want to be a martyr, "tough love" is the only way to keep from being consumed.



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Posted on Wed, Jul 19, 2006 16:54

Teresa2084 write:
74% actually in females left untreated bob.

Point proven. Why do so many people (frankly gender is not the issue here) CHOOOSE to not get treatment? They don't get "left" out. Everyone makes a choice.



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Posted on Wed, Jul 19, 2006 06:09

there are different forms of BPD. your socialist hatred for the wealthy is peeking thru. And as with Red stop making claims about me that aren't true and you'll get your message across.

If you think anyone would believe that 74% of BPDs untreated kill themselves, guess again. Furthermore, there is no proven treatment for BPD that works on the majority of BPD.

My exBPD GF is very, very bright and can manipulate the world around her victims with ease. Until I have someone in my life that replaces what my BPD does for me, I will probably keep letting her back in when she comes back...even though I will resist at first she will break the walls down. She is very crafty...one time she posed as someone else on a dating site and she picked me up in chat and we arranged to meet.

How can you wonder why all the shrink friends can't help, one has to help themselves. There are many shrinks who have lost their license to BPDs, they can't even help themselves. There are a lot more powerful men than I who lost everything to a BPD. One of the shrinks I know is afraid of BPDs. Another won't see them period because the BPD is often untreatable...and they are just spinning their wheels because the BPD lies in therapy.

By your statements you are alluding that you are BPD, and to be honest I tend to see some fantasy or wishful thinking on your part in your claims. Anyway, please show us your source that 74% of untreated BPDs kill themselves and then we can debate further. you can't. 20% of mental hospital patients are BPD is what I read and usually those are suicidal, they don't usually kill themselves (they do try) and they are amongst the few who get treatment.