Thanks for telling me what goes on in CAlgary..lol I had no idea that it was a redneck place nor one with so many oil industry professionals then.Would have love to chat up those burly guys. lol..All we wanted was a nice night out but our host in his enthusiasm made the wrong move and scared those poor guys who must have imagined us as 3 macho butch type girls.
Most of the time I prefer to go incognito and rarely mention what i do for a living but when I start talking usually more like interogating (subconscious Freudian slip..lol) , after a while most men would be curious about my background, because I tend to discuss business and their jobs like their equal.
I don't get 'intimidated response' when I am among fellow legal practitioners and you are right we are a bloody clickish profession and rarely venture out of our tight circle...esp here in London where there is a marked class distinction.
It is usually the non-lawyers that get intimidated or weary..when they find out..
Bonnie88 write: Many years ago when I was a young lawyer travelling in Calgary with two other lady lawyers, we wanted to go out on a night with some nice local guys. So our host who was working in a bar went to ask his friends whether they fancy going out on a night with us but he made a mistake telling them we were lawyers..none of them wanted to go out on a blind date with us..so we landed up going out on our own..Why do men get intimidated by women who are in predominantly male oriented jobs or jobs that they perceive as powerful or threatening to their ego?
Did you find you had this same experience anywhere else in the World while travelling?
If not, can I go so far as to say your first mistake was to say you were 'lawyers'! I'm not sure it had anything to do with you ladies having male oriented jobs perceived as powerful...
I just read this post...you mentioned you were in Calgary! This is the Oil capital of Canada. The downtown core is filled with Professionals eg. Engineers, Geologists, Geo-Physicists, & Lawyers. But here is a perception that still exists today...Lawyers have their own clicks...they stick together. Lawyers socialize with lawyers & judges. Very few stray to befriend other professionals such as Engineers, or others.
That was the view of many 20 years ago, and still today. So maybe you should have said you were an Engineer and you would have had better luck. lol
Also, Calgary is a bit of a redneck city. Until the early 90's there were two Private clubs that were for 'men only'. Sued by a couple of female lawyers they had to change their policies. The one club, women were only allowed to enter through the back door with a man. So they renovated the back door entrance to be grand. No matter, women are still coming in the back door! I've yet to see what the front entrance looks like! LOL
But sometimes flirting could get me into real serious trouble too..you know leading them up the wrong path when my flirting gets misunderstood :)
Flirtation is an art which could be lost to some men, and I remembered having had two guys argue over who is to bring me home after a party when I was younger and wished I could drive myself to the party instead...
NOw, why is it then that women are never intimidated by men who hold powerful jobs? Cos we are able to not tak them seriously and flirt with them incessantly...and outside their office I treat them like any other men..or more like little boys who need alot of TLC and attention..
<<and if u meet me in person I m actually rather demure and would rarely argue at all in a social scenario..but flirt..YES! >>>
I don't doubt that Bonnie. It has been my experience that most really sucessful people, both men and women, don't have the need to tell others about it. The same can be said for those that really have money. Flirting!!! Now that is a whole different story. LOL..Bill
Bill..it was about 20 years ago or more..the world hopefully has changed but even now I am still in the minority when I attend meetings. Strangely it is in the Fareast and Asia that I find more professional women at meetings there and men do respect them as well. In my years as a lawyer in both the East and the West, I found women have a harder time in the west proving themselves in a predominantly male job.
www.. I m not even talking about marriage just going out for a drink!!
and if u meet me in person I m actually rather demure and would rarely argue at all in a social scenario..but flirt..YES!
Why do men get intimidated by women who are in predominantly male oriented jobs or jobs that they perceive as powerful or threatening to their ego?
Its not intimination. It's only if they are bossy and like to argue. Not naming names, you understand.
Actually I have no idea why they would not like go to out on a date. Marriage is another thing, however. If a man wants a stay at home wife, family,lots of attention, etc. a career woman is probably not what he has in mind.