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Posted on Aug 02, 2016 at 11:56 AM

 On Being Normal

  

I spent a number of years as a university student followed immediately by being a university professor. 

  

The university environment allows a professor the luxury of being able to be exactly as eccentric as you really are.  The students expect it.  They would be a little disappointed if you were not at least a little. 

  

It is hard to know just how eccentric that is because the real world discourages it in so many ways we don't think of or worry about.  We have been hammered, molded and had the sharp edges knocked off for so long we don’t even know it is happening.    

  

The first thing I noticed on my first ventures out into the real world was that everyone thought they were normal.  They were not of course, no one is.  The big mystery was they wanted to be.  They actually wanted to be considered normal.  They would have been offended at the very idea that they were not. 

  

I understand that.  When someone accuses you of not being normal they are really meaning to insult you.  They are saying that there is something wrong with you -- something wrong with you as opposed to being exceptional in some innocent or even a good way. 

 


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Posted on Aug 13, 2016 at 11:01 PM

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I may be a perfect example. I say outlandish things, and know how they will be taken, but will not stop just because I am not walking behind the line. I may find something humorous, (better to say something and not be boring) and some people may misconstrue and find what I say appauling. Some people are too stressed and serious, and the stress is going to age them prematurely, not me, im gonna be immature forever! Wait



To each their own.  Thanks for your comment. 


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Posted on Aug 08, 2016 at 10:38 AM

Lest I come off as a raging nonconformist I should hasten to add that is really not so.  If your chosen profession has certain dress expectations and you willfully and flagrantly disregard them your chances of advancement would be pretty slim. 


This might not be the way you want the world to be, but that is the way it is.  So, don't be stupid, don't give them an easy way to hold you down.  Rise up to the top and then go to work in a turttle neck T shirt and Levis.  You will have to be good to get away with it, but some folks are that good.  Which gets back to my point -- when they can get away with it, people will be about as eccentric as they really are.


There are of course many ways to be eccentric having nothing to do with clothing.  Beards, hair, behavior...


If you are absolutely brilliant you can get away with lots of stuff.  Even be loved for it.  Einstein’s famous remark re asking a student which way he was walking when the student stopped him to ask him a question.  On being told he said, "Oh good, then I have had lunch.”


You know, I don’t really know if that really happened.  I read it somewhere now forgotten.  It illustrates the point nicely though.   

 


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Posted on Aug 08, 2016 at 01:25 AM

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Maryclaire,

 

No big argument.  At least not from me.  I think what we are talking about is certain people being openly mislabeled as not being normal for innocent and harmless patterns of behavior.that are different from some group’s perceived norm.     

  

These patterns of behavior might be things like how they dress.  What kind of work they do.  Sometimes certain personality quirks.

  

I’ll give an example.  I was interviewed once for a research job.  My interviewer was the actual person I would work for. 

  

My interviewer confided, “Usually the Human Resources department would do these interviews.  Those people would weed out all the people who wear white socks.  I don’t want anyone rejected for reasons that have nothing to do with the ability to do the research.”

 

 

 


 

Hi RMAC , 

 

I understand your opinion ..If the Rules and Regulations are 

open for everything then theres no problem for those who 

wear things different from the others  ..My Profession is differenf , we always have to follow standard rules but here in 

Germany some changes are tolerated and accepted because of Personalized reasons ( individual idiosyncracies ) .. 

 

About labeling peoples individual choices is not ok in my opinion ...we should always give other people a chance to decide what they want .. Im open to all suggestions and very 

flexible to ones whims and caprices ..but if the person happened to be a close friend or belong to my family , I would

be a Lion and will show my teeth to the one who labeled them 

and tell them " its none of your business " and send them where the Pepper grows ..

 


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Posted on Aug 06, 2016 at 05:46 PM

Maryclaire,

 

No big argument.  At least not from me.  I think what we are talking about is certain people being openly mislabeled as not being normal for innocent and harmless patterns of behavior.that are different from some group’s perceived norm.     

  

These patterns of behavior might be things like how they dress.  What kind of work they do.  Sometimes certain personality quirks.

  

I’ll give an example.  I was interviewed once for a research job.  My interviewer was the actual person I would work for. 

  

My interviewer confided, “Usually the Human Resources department would do these interviews.  Those people would weed out all the people who wear white socks.  I don’t want anyone rejected for reasons that have nothing to do with the ability to do the research.”

 

 

 


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Posted on Aug 06, 2016 at 05:08 AM

 

Sorry guys to spoil the illusion nobody is normal because our 

 

behavior covers only a part of the other aspects ..If we are 

 

eccentric it doesn't mean we are not normal , we are just 

 

different from the other ..which we always are because of  our

 

environmental factors ( family , neighbors , friends , school 

 

etc ..) .culture , and traditions ...In my opinion we are all 

 

" NORMAL " unless we are " Mentally sick , mentally retarded 

 

and other affections as well as Physically sick .. I for one will 

 

say Im a normal person with Healthy Mind and Body ...If we 

 

have a different lifestyle from the other , we still are normal ..

 

we just have a different opinion and views about certain 

 

things ...thats all .. 


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Posted on Aug 05, 2016 at 09:06 PM

 

@ MCMXCI

 

 

 

I think I would rather be a bit eccentric than goofy, weird, or strange.  Quirky I can handle.  Thank you for your comments. 

 


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Posted on Aug 05, 2016 at 08:22 AM

@ Gentlebreeze

  

I think I share your regret at the loss of individuality. 

  

For me:  Post University days, a strict dress code was required.  Minimum acceptable was Blazer or Sport Jacket with coordinated slacks and appropriate shoes.  Suits were preferred -- pinstripe grey, dark blue or black.  No plaids, browns, greens, regardless of your particular best colors.  Shirts light blue or white.  It was not exactly spelled out, but you got the idea. 

  

And then, I went to work as a software developer.  New dress code.  Anything but the above.  Not quite, but close.  I loved it.  I generally went to work in Levis, a nice shirt, and sport shoes.  If the clients were to be on site, we were expected to wear nice shoes, slacks, and shirts.  No suits, no ties ever.  We were never supposed to dress nicer than our clients.

  

Oddly enough we were still able to be productive.  This contrary to the long standing belief that if people were not dressed up they would not be productive.  Quite the opposite actually. 

  

Worked for IBM briefly.  Research branch.  According to the prevailing IBM code, we were crazy.  Why, the way we dressed.  I even bought a yellow tie.  Why, because it ruffled so many feathers. 

 


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Posted on Aug 05, 2016 at 02:11 AM

Just watch how people dress now and you will know individuality is not encouraged in society anymore which is a real shame.  If a person stands their ground they are these days branded all sort of PC names.  Just moaning and whining sorry.



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Posted on Aug 04, 2016 at 08:51 PM

 

Hi Maryclair,

 

 

We good old bloggers have to keep the tradition going.  Thanks for your comments.


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Posted on Aug 04, 2016 at 01:09 AM

 

Hi RMAC !

 

Its always good to see you specially now wherein there is a 

scarcity of good old bloggers ..

 

Well in my opinion , the words  Normal and abnormal  could  be applied in a various ways .. whether it is the way of life ; behaviours ; set of mind ; but most applied in the Field of Medicine ( Lab . reports and findings ) ..

 

Being eccentric , gifted , genius  could be categorized as a special endowment of a human being that means they belong to the normal but not an ordinary people ..which put them above the line ..

 

I for one put myself on the normal level basing on the above 

mentioned ways with some diversities which I fully accept ...To mention living with a  normal healthy life( no smoking , drinking ; no parties ( over because of my age ) but not a boring life ..believe me   ..

 

I remember my good old days as an Instructress in the College of Nursing both Classroom and Clinical

 ( I blamed myself for not taking Master and PHD to improve my title ) but no regret I was a good Teacher ..I didn't tried  to be eccentric but I find a good method after 

interviewing my Colleagues and many of the  students ..but I was supportive to them ..


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Posted on Aug 03, 2016 at 10:25 PM

@ EcoArtist

I wouldn't, of course, since no one is!  Thanks for your comments. 


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Posted on Aug 03, 2016 at 11:59 AM

People pick me out of the crowd and ask me if I'm an artist. "What gave me away?", I innocently ask...I stand out like a sore thumb because I am not run of the mill "normal", whatever that means.

 

So, I'm thinking I resonated with your words from the opposite perspective. I HAVE been with the so-called "normal" people for decades now, looking for my tribe of eccentrics. I know them when I see them, and feel their energy. Out here, in The Real World, I call them 'Creatives'. Not sheeple, not asleep, awake and compelled beyond their will to create something new, experience something new, see things in a new light. 

 

After studying psychology in university I decided the pundits and seekers had tried to standardize behavior and rank behavior within a range of 'normal' leaving the rest in need of serious fixing...only they had no idea how to fix it, from what I could see. Individuality is not valued. Most school education does not include building life coping skills, or self reflexion, or choice, or personl purpose, or creative thinking. Blending in, and not making waves is seen as a value.

 

Please, don't call me Normal- I'd rather be picked out of the crowd, and stand out like a sore thumb, thank you very much.

 

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