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Posted on Fri, Dec 27, 2013 18:22

Does anyone else think our USA economy is in the crapper and continues to get worse?



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Posted on Thu, Dec 19, 2013 20:29

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Obamacare is not government run health care.  It is government imposed regulations.  All the money for Obamacare is paid to insurance companies or state Medicaid intermediaries.  What the government says with this law is that millions of Americans should be able to access healthcare that meets a basic standard and is affordable.  Insurance companies can no longer take your money for years and years, paying CEOs exorbitant salaries and then when you get sick....either cancel your policy or don't pay for your care, as in the case of junk insurance.


The ACA was originally proposed as a "single payer/public option" government run healthcare system but it wasn't able to pass muster in the Senate.  The intent was to force the private insurers, who were paying their execs those exorbitant salaries, out of business.

 

Earlier this year Harry Reid said that Obamacare is merely a "step" towards national, government run healthcare.   The Las Vegas Sun report on the program carried this headline: “Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system.”

 

There is so much baked in complexity in this 2000 page monstrosity that, the usually unflappable ,Nancy Pelosi said we have to pass it in order to understand what's in it.  It's been three years... does anyone believe she's read it yet.

 

That said, I do look forward to being able to go to the Post Office for my annual prostate exam as long as the mail sorters use Purell and change their gloves between each patient.  I wouldn't even object to the installation of mammography machines as long as they don't post the pictures next to the "Wanted Posters"

 



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Posted on Tue, Dec 17, 2013 18:59

Obamacare is not government run health care.  It is government imposed regulations.  All the money for Obamacare is paid to insurance companies or state Medicaid intermediaries.  What the government says with this law is that millions of Americans should be able to access healthcare that meets a basic standard and is affordable.  Insurance companies can no longer take your money for years and years, paying CEOs exorbitant salaries and then when you get sick....either cancel your policy or don't pay for your care, as in the case of junk insurance.



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Posted on Mon, Dec 16, 2013 23:43

excuse me playing devils advocate here what about the fat people that are fat because of thyroid or other serious health issues the toxins & GMO  food also are to blame (word used was Eugenics/genocide will do also) you can try to eat healthy but some people there body dont respond the same.IMHO i think its fair to state that all people are not the same and a health care option that suits them best should be there choice especially if they pay for it Oh and im not pro obama/ or obama care I.J.S :-)



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Posted on Tue, Dec 10, 2013 12:05

The Chinese certainly have made an impact on the locals in Detroit. “I have people calling and saying, ‘I’m serious -- I wanna buy 100, 200 properties,’ ” said Caroline Chen, a real estate broker in nearby Troy, Michigan, to Quartz.com. “They say ‘We don’t need to see them. Just pick the good ones.'" Chen reports that one of her colleagues sold 30 properties to a Chinese investor.

 

Hmmmm......"Let them go bankrupt".....Right???  Dumb!!



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Posted on Tue, Nov 26, 2013 13:13

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Just in case anyone may think I’m being harsh when I say the Republicans have NO ideas….let me explain the basis for that statement.  On November 14, a group of House Republicans filed into Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s Capitol office suite and received a blank piece of paper labeled “Agenda 2014.”  The GOP’s agenda for 2014 is literally a blank sheet of paper!!!!  They have no ideas for managing the needs of our Nation for 2014.  I guess we will see more obstruction just for the sake obstruction and a pursuit of governmental failure.  Hmmm…..and they think this is a winning strategy????



If you think libatards are the ones who made this country great, who built our big companies and industries and science centers and other technology you have the worst case of denial I have ever seen..

However, they have ruined the country, I will give you that..



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Posted on Tue, Nov 26, 2013 12:55

I think my Blue Cross plan has covered birth control pills and all necessary medical exams for women for over 40 years.. I am sure you could find some that don't.. 



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Posted on Mon, Nov 25, 2013 21:14

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Lady you need to check your facts.. All current insurance policies that I know of, including mine,  covers all types of birth control and does not cover the little blue pill.   UR a typical spin doctor libitard who don't know what the truth means..Do your homework please..


WWWW,

Ok, so I did some light research as requested.  

 

ABC news reported in 2002:  Within weeks of hitting the U.S. market in 1998, more than half of all Viagra prescriptions received health insurance coverage.  In the same article they also cited studies that found for every $1 of public funds invested in family planning, $4 to $14 of public funds is saved in pregnancy and health care-related costs.  Please note the words “public funds”.  That’s Welfare monies.  Surely you must be in favor of reducing Welfare costs.

 

Never the less, the research did seem to suggest somewhere around 2005-2008 insurance companies began to cut or significantly control coverage for the blue pills…..some only allowing 5-6 pills/month.  Reasons cited:  Female activist groups protests, dubious medical necessity and the propensity for abuse.  It seems some were black market selling the pills as party favors to individuals that like to partake in certain types of parties.

 

The reason your plan covers contraception is because as of August 1, 2012 the ACA required new health plans to cover the services without cost sharing or perhaps it was always in there.  Older plans that already provided insurance coverage were grandfathered in and did not need to start providing free birth control.  It was noted that 28 states already required insurance companies to cover contraception.

 

The Affordable Care Act is the greatest advance for women’s health in a generation.  Millions of women have gained access to basic preventive care at no cost, including birth control, cancer screenings, well-woman exams, mammograms, colonoscopies, childhood immunizations, screenings for diabetes and high blood pressure.   Additionally, under the ACA, women no longer have to pay more for health insurance than men and can no longer be denied insurance coverage for pre-existing conditions like breast cancer, having a C-section, or being the victim of domestic violence.

 

Importantly, millions of women can now prevent unintended pregnancy and thereby reduce the need for abortion....no matter what state they live in!

 

Ladies:  Women who do not have insurance will not receive free birth control or any of the benefits.  So get it!!



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Posted on Mon, Nov 25, 2013 15:53

With Obamacare, we have to pay for things we don't want, they were not in the insurance plans we had that got canceled because we either didn't want them or felt the need to pay extra for that type of care if it would be needed. We were allowed to think for ourselves and decide whether we wanted to take the risks of not being insured.  Millions have now lost their plans, some of them who are in the middle of cancer treatments,etc. Eugenics? Definitely the final nail in the coffin for many people..literally!

 

 


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Posted on Mon, Nov 25, 2013 14:09

My two cents on one aspect of health insurance coverage is if the drug is something you don't need and is your choice and you want to take it for your own personal reasons beyond your health whether it's birth control or the little blue pill then it should NOT be covered by your insurance. One way that could possibly help the issue is what some plans offer. A friend's plan gives her an allowance to spend on medicine/drugs for a certain length of time, I thinks it's quarterly. If she chooses to spend it on her birth control, she can. Arguing back and forth about what plans cover what, like someone knows it as a fact is just a waste of time. Arguing the principle of the matter is better.

 

I also don't think lapband procedures should be covered by insurance. It is a voluntary option, these obese patients can also option to diet and exercise, should their plan cover a gym membership? I'm sorry that their fat is affecting their lives but if you have chosen to make yourself obese, it was their personal choice. While I am sure arguments can be made about obesity I am trying to put it in general terms.  Vasectomies-not covered. Plastic surgery-of course it should not be covered unless it is needed for burn victims,etc.

 

One more point is Christian hospitals should not have to dispense birth control,etc.. For that matter, Christian schools, Jewish schools, whatever they are, should be allowed to hire and fire anyone if their beliefs do nor coincide with the beliefs and curriculum of the establishment. 


I may have opened a can of worms with my last paragraph but it is suppose to be Freedom Of Religion.



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Posted on Sun, Nov 24, 2013 20:16

Just in case anyone may think I’m being harsh when I say the Republicans have NO ideas….let me explain the basis for that statement.  On November 14, a group of House Republicans filed into Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s Capitol office suite and received a blank piece of paper labeled “Agenda 2014.”  The GOP’s agenda for 2014 is literally a blank sheet of paper!!!!  They have no ideas for managing the needs of our Nation for 2014.  I guess we will see more obstruction just for the sake obstruction and a pursuit of governmental failure.  Hmmm…..and they think this is a winning strategy????



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Posted on Sun, Nov 24, 2013 15:22

You need to compare the intelligence, wisdom and knowledge of Tea Party guy Ted Cruz, for instance,  to that of Obam... He makes obam look like the fool that he is. 



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Posted on Sun, Nov 24, 2013 15:19

Lady you need to check your facts.. All current insurance policies that I know of, including mine,  covers all types of birth control and does not cover the little blue pill.   UR a typical spin doctor libitard who don't know what the truth means..Do your homework please..



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Posted on Sun, Nov 24, 2013 14:47

Leo,

 

Re: The GOP

When you know you cannot win elections on your ideas.....and refuse to explore new ideas because you are afraid of a small band of radical ideologues.....you stop having ideas....and have to resort to dirty tricks in order to try to win.

 

Redistricting was designed to waste as many Democratic votes as possible, which has resulted in GOP candidates to be safe and unanswerable to the general voting population.  The candidates from heavy Republican districts can act as ignorant and destructive as they please and not risk losing their jobs.  But I think people are finally waking up to how Republicans govern.  It is unfortunate, because I think our republic functions better with a two-party system.....but these folks make the Republicans look really bad! 

 

The only thing I differ with you on, is that the Voter ID laws are "veiled heavily".  I would say poorly veiled is more precise.  These laws are a very clear and obvious attempt to supress the vote.  It's a contemptable trick!  Supressing the vote is antithetical to everything this country stands for, not to mention the many, many who died for the right to vote.



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Posted on Sun, Nov 24, 2013 07:02

I'm under the impression that this voter ID, and redistricting is the Republican answer to concentrating the voting pool to a level geared to help insure tipping the balance to their side to win elections. Veiled heavily as the grey area of voter ID fraud; these tactics alienate the unsuspecting minority,and some older members of the black community. Documentation is still problematic with some births, even though legislation has confirmed these cultures as legitimately legal in the U.S. 



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Posted on Sat, Nov 23, 2013 14:47

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Pardon me, but has anyone suggested that you can't buy the pills yourself, or any other form of birth control?   Have they?
And, if you will check around I think you will find that almost all Republicians believe in birth control, unless their church is against it, and the church don't care what party you belong to, does it?


btw I don't believe the little blue pills are covered under insurance..  Maybe if you are a union member and obam supporter.However, I do think most of the major insurance companies cover birth control pills.

So, let me ask this question.  Are you a person that will willing to ruin this country economically by voting for a bunch of libatards that will provide you with free birth control pills, meanwhile they cause your insurance to increase by thousands of dollars..  Sounds dumb to me. Buy the pills yourself if necessary or keep your legs closed.



WWWW~

Oh me Oh my!!  Lololol.   I can hardly believe you said that!  Telling women to keep their legs closed doesn’t work….never has since the beginning of time!!!  And NOW…..since the invention of the little blue pill there must be at least 4 times as many men running around trying to get women to open them up.  In fact, men's appetite may be a primary contributing force in so many unplanned pregnancies.

 

In my humble opinion….I think it would only be fair if men had to pay 30% more for their health insurance in order to pay for the smile they have on their faces…..way past what their chronological age should permit!  *wink* :))

 

Re: the cost of insurance.  It's more cost effective for insurance companies to provide birth control than it is to pay for pre-natal care, hospital costs for the birth, after care......and then of course another mouth for the planet to feed and provide resources for.  So stop grumbling WWWW.

 

Fyi....it doesn't help to tell men to keep their pants zipped up either!  Humans tend to like sex.



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Posted on Mon, Nov 18, 2013 15:41

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Pardon me, do men have to pay for their little blue pills?  Or is THAT covered under insurance?  Customers have ballooned and I don't hear anyone squawking when it comes to men's sex.

 

Birth control is fundamentally the most important women's issue!  It should be a human issue given the planet's population.  But if a woman cannot control when or how many babies she has....it is directly related to not only her physical health but her economic health.  Any woman that would vote for a Republican needs to go buy herself a prairie dress and then have her head examined.


Pardon me, but has anyone suggested that you can't buy the pills yourself, or any other form of birth control?   Have they?
And, if you will check around I think you will find that almost all Republicians believe in birth control, unless their church is against it, and the church don't care what party you belong to, does it?


btw I don't believe the little blue pills are covered under insurance..  Maybe if you are a union member and obam supporter.However, I do think most of the major insurance companies cover birth control pills.

So, let me ask this question.  Are you a person that will willing to ruin this country economically by voting for a bunch of libatards that will provide you with free birth control pills, meanwhile they cause your insurance to increase by thousands of dollars..  Sounds dumb to me. Buy the pills yourself if necessary or keep your legs closed.



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Posted on Sat, Nov 16, 2013 09:23

Quoting wwww12345:

You are a pretty good propagandists for the libatards..  Too bad it's propaganda instead of truth...

btw, what you you libatards think of Obamacare now?

Were the Tea Party folks right?


WWWW,

The ACA hasn't even started yet!  The Tea Party??  Right about what?  Do they have any ideas?  As far as I can tell, they are a small group of spectators up in the stands that don't want to do anything except stop the game.  They aren't smart enough to play the game....they just want to blow things up in order to destroy not only the game, but the entire playing field!  A bunch of cynical know-nothings.... that think Sarah Palin is smart!  



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Posted on Sat, Nov 16, 2013 09:03

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Example of propaganda

"I'd love to meet the House GOP genius who thought in the middle of a budget crisis and creating a government shutdown, that this is the perfect time to remind Americans which party is also against contraception access."

Pardon me, but has anyone suggested that you can't buy the pills yourself, or any other form of birth control?   Have they?

And, if you will check around I think you will find that almost all Republicians believe in birth control, unless their church is against it, and the church don't care what party you belong to, does it?

 


Pardon me, do men have to pay for their little blue pills?  Or is THAT covered under insurance?  Customers have ballooned and I don't hear anyone squawking when it comes to men's sex.

 

Birth control is fundamentally the most important women's issue!  It should be a human issue given the planet's population.  But if a woman cannot control when or how many babies she has....it is directly related to not only her physical health but her economic health.  Any woman that would vote for a Republican needs to go buy herself a prairie dress and then have her head examined.



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Posted on Fri, Nov 15, 2013 15:32

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While we're talking about constitutionally protected 'Rights'.....how about the right to vote???  Are voter ID cards an effective tool in the prevention of voter fraud?  Isn't that a type of background check?  If voter ID cards help to prevent fraud, then it stands to reason that comprehensive background checks in order to purchase a gun would help to prevent some unlawful gun purchases.

 

Interestingly, I've never heard of anyone getting killed by someone casting a vote....yet we got voter ID laws passed in just a couple of weeks.


No, voter ID cards are not a background check. You can be insane as a libatard and still vote.. Unfortunately.



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