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Posted on Sat, Dec 01, 2012 20:02

Where ever I look, Im finding "enhanced" beings...botox and plastic surgery is probably in its record times...people running like crazy to beat aging etc. (please note: this post is not about people who have serious/medical issues etc).

 

Personally I find many naturally aging people very admirable, beautiful and interesting.

 

I also think that plastic surgery is - just like many other cosmetical/make-up actions made by women- actually more by women for women than by women for men. Many men I have met worldwide and talked about this say "Oh my wife/girlfriend etc wanted to enhance this and that but she did not need to..I love her anyway...but she didnt listen"...so that makes me think that maybe many women feel they are in a lifelong competition with other women (regardless if they are in a relationship or not), and they think that botox and other enhancements will make them look and feel more compatible (and admired by) with other women...as women tend to compare themselves between themselves all the time.

 

I remember when I went out to a fab evening place, and in the womens restroom...I was looking into the mirror and noticed several women just "go away" (that was not the first nor last time) - I talked with my female friends about it, this odd phenomena, and they said "Oh, thats because they cannot stand to see themselves, compare themselves with a natural beauty like you..."..and other times, in that "restroom mirror", a lady just grabbed my hair (being a bit tipsy) and said "Oh, Im so jealous, I wish I had your hair..and she put my long hair against her face to see how she would look like with it...I found it very amusing but at the same time sad..as I thought she was beautiful and had very nice naturally blonde hair and she should be content...

 

Personally I am very thankful for what I was given by birth and have thus far not done one single "enhancement", not even colored my hair (always had my own hair and natural color), and I feel beautiful as always. Thank you God!

 

Now men are much more into botox etc. aswell, even on this site there are plenty of men where you can see they are botoxed..how is that sexy, manly etc?! Personally I find it non-attractive.

 

Maybe it is because we have reached a time and age of female independence in the West, men need to "compete" for women in another way as many more women are not needing mens financial support in the same way as before...and men are starting to lose/change their "male" status/ways which they had before and this makes them maybe question their looks and start caring more about such stuff...I mean tell John Wayne or Clint Eastwood about "male metrosexuality" and the David Beckham-curse (as I call it) ;-). Male/female equality issues might also have made men become less "manly"/and/or more selfcounsious lookswise, hence behaving more "female" - male grooming is a hit nowadays.

 

I personally think that original anything is everything...and "aging" is mostly about attitude.

 

There is a fountain of youth: it is your mind, your talents, the creativity you bring to your life and the lives of the people you love. When you learn to tap this source, you will truly have defeated age. (by Sophia Loren)


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Posted on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 22:23

OMG Hoping! Such a struggle you are goinh thru..sorry for that and I hope all will be well at the new place...

 

Yeah I know about brand..Im rather brandy myself so that might be a "burden" hihi...but it is more of a lifestyle and I can put away my stuff but messing around with surgery etc is a bit of other level...oh gamblibg..i have never ever done that..hope ypu won! Snow up to the ears it is...I was actually going to Mauritius but I need to stay and make necessary arrangements for the charities Im involved in..Mauritius needs to be postponed...my friends are more stressed about the cold snow than I am right now.they just want to jump into a nice ocean and relax...Im actually going to stop suntanning or at least put on major sunblock..it will not be easy as we always suntan. and coming back to all untanned friends back home is teasefully fun to many... I love to swim etc in wild oceans..its dangerous but very fun :-)



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Posted on Sun, Dec 09, 2012 16:25

HI WORLD!! 

 

I can see what you would would mean regarding the type of situation in reference to the bathroom... In the same manner we note individuals have "gross" amount of "enhancements" done, well, I feel the same could refer to individuals hwo must "carry this bag" .. or if it doesn't have a proper label ($$$$) they won't touch it! (Can anyone say INSECURE!!)

 

In as much as I wish I had my blinders on, I just dealt with a viciously jealous older woman and I am no longer residing in Atlanta. She got the boot firt, but then after my tire ended up with screw in it and I told the landord, they determined they wanted EVERYONE out. So.... I am now residing at a friends place in South Carolina. I wish I could say such things do not exist, however, I have had my hair ripped out by the roots from a couple of different women in my time. I didn't even know the one lady was seeing the guy I was seeing.. and ht eother lady was an ex wife of a BF I dated! NOTHING IS WORSE THAN A BITTER, NASTY, VILE, WOMAN HELL BENT ON BEING VINDICTIVE!!! 

 

I have a lot to say addressingyour other remarks, but am waiting to board plane her ein Atlanta. Headed ot New Orleans to get my Maritime credentials together and I am going to gamble a bit.. (As if my life weren't one big gamble already! ) Heehee~

 

Again, GREAT TOPIC! I have a lot more to express, but gotta run! 

 

STAY WARM AND SAFE IN THAT SNOW GF! And post a picture! ;)

 

XO~~



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Posted on Sun, Dec 09, 2012 12:09

Hoping dear...I could understand people enhancing stuff like you are mentioning..i would call it more kind if a medical need or psychological stuff regarding manboobs and hair..but Im referring more to lets say a young lady who is perfectly fine as she is but needs to put in womanboobs..or others who join botoxparties etc..many women dont need all this they are just doing it because they can or they are pressured etc..they just are fine as they are..and who invented the delusion of wrinkles and growing older being so sad from the first place??

 

I think many angles of all this enhancement hysteris got to do with ego greed/hybris...we are more and more going afar from several values and more and more entering the individual God-like state if being...I mean if you are born a certain way and want to enhance and change this is somehow playing God.

 

I think the frenzy surrounding this should be turned somehow and marketing should be on "accept yourself as you are" but then several huge mindwashing industries will lose..cosmetic industry in a whole incl cosmetic surgery...as long as there is not a major problem one needs to reconsider any enhancement and I do agree with rmac22 that many people who get stuff enhanced and botox etc actually look less attractive than being natural as it is not too hard to actually notice this and I think such people..enhanced..are many times less respected as peoole think oh..so your looks camt handle it so you need help hmm...oh changing clothes can hardly be compared to surgery etc..as clothes are changeable by the second without any med nor risks etc..

 

I do agree on the other hand that it is easy for better looking people with better genes etc to ask such questioks as they are blessed etc..but on the other hand..who dictates beauty as a whole..meaning those who pose the questions as they are beautiful might in other cultures etc be considered not as attractive..Maya indians sense of beauty was cross eyed women ..at least thats what they said when we where kn Mexico...just some thought..might fill in more later as Im on the go in Snowy Sweden...


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Posted on Sat, Dec 08, 2012 17:35

Maybe it only seems so, but to me it appears that people who have had many procedures wind up worse off that those who started out much the same and did none. 

 

This is a bit surprising as always these procedures can make you look at least a little better in the short run. 

 

Maybe all the nips and tucks get in the way of ageing gracefully. 

 

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Posted on Sat, Dec 08, 2012 15:38

Hoping, well...thanks for liking my topic and I do agree its is interesting and very thanks for the surgery overview posted. Interesting. It shows that enhancement is a big trend...but the exploration of WHY is also very interesting.

 

Regarding the mirror thing, well, maybe this applies to where a person goes..as for the place which I mentioned, women there are EXTREMELY looksaware LV-bags-type of women..the ladies room is looking like someones lux livingroom with gold etc and ladies spend long time in frpn of that mirror in general...but I have been thru such incidents, not only there but in some other places for example in Paris etc...

 

Oh washing hands is absolutely important in any business ;-)))

 

Yeah...well I do think that women are extremely competitive amongst themselves, and I find it very sad many times, as women tend to put ticks in the wheel for other women sometimes...

 

Obese issues are sad but there are as far as I have heard several reasons to that state and those being in it might not even be able to "care about what others think" as they can just not really control the situation maybe due to medical issues or what not..there are other major issues I think..for example smoking...it is proven to shorten a persons life but still...


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Posted on Sat, Dec 08, 2012 15:20

NGL2011, yah really, many things of what youa re saying are interesting..how come it has become so up and down...?

 

Peace to you to and pleasent weekend!



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Posted on Sat, Dec 08, 2012 08:11

NGL... First.... Good to see you dear! ;)

 

I have a question for you after reviewing your comments... 

 

I too, undertand the value of growing old gracefully.. (Ummm... oxy-moron here.. LOL) 

 

However, say you were a man who had "women breast" ... (And notice this is one of the top 5 male enhancement surgeries in the U.S.) 

 

Well, if YOU had "man boobs".. (anybody recall "Kramer and his "man-bro" he invinted? LOL)

 

Well NGL... OR ANY OF THE MEN HERE...

 

If you had boobs... would you not want to get rid of them? It has something to do medically with men secreting extra .. I don't know.. estrogen or something? I'm not sure and have no time to check right now...  

 

BUT... IF any of you men had this "embarrassing issue".. would you not want to "fix it" ? 

 

WHAT PART OF GROWING OLD GRACEFULLY HAS TO MEAN WE CAN'T LOOK OUR BEST IF IT IS AVAILABLE? I'm not referring to "Joan Rivers" or the dude that has wayyyyy too dark of a tan and thinks he looks great.. What the heck is his name? Or Harry Hamlins wife Lisa who has Donald Duck lips.. ICK! But when someone enhances themselves doing something positive (and NOT grotesque)  to make them look and feel better... What is wrong with this? 

 

Do we not select clothing so that we wear articles that fit us properly and make us look better? Otherwise, we could all just wear old potato sacks on our bodies... LOL!! 

 

AND... Not for nothing... So hear me out please...

 

You NGL.. and many others who may read, well perhaps you have good genes and you still have hair at 50!! I have known men who have started going bald in ther 30's, making them appear far older than they are... Is that 'growing old gracefully?' or more a matter of bad gentics? I see nothing wrong wiht hair implants.. and if I go bald.. I'M DOING THAT TOO! I am no Seinaid! LOL AND... DON'T WE FIX OUR TEETH TO LOOK BETTER AS WELL? I know many with veneers and they have beautiful smiles! :) 

 

BOTTOM LINE? I think it's easy for those of us who look younger than others our age, and maybe are above average in looks and body structure to go around sying.. WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS? But I think at the end of the day... The MOTIVATION and ATTITUDE behind the WHY's of people doing what they do is what counts.. Not so much WHAT they have done...

 

Your views? (and anyone's).. Esp in the "man boobs" .. LOL  


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Posted on Fri, Dec 07, 2012 13:47

hmmm rmac22..did he look like rmac22 maybe? :-)))



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Posted on Thu, Dec 06, 2012 06:43

I did not tell you about the other person whose picture kept "disappearing."  No, he did not look like Sophia.

 

RMac

 



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Posted on Wed, Dec 05, 2012 02:50

Rmac22...really interesting story...yeah, she sure is special...I think a combination of both beauty and brains and she comes off as funny in her interviews etc...but mostly its about that "je ne sair quoi"-factor :-)

Can only imagine the keep-up-the-beauty-pressure she must have...



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Posted on Tue, Dec 04, 2012 07:45

Once had a lady where I worked who looked like Sophia.  Poor lady could hardly get her work done due to men stopping in to chat with her. 

 

 

 

Since we worked in a “secure” facility, pictures of all newcomers were posted on several bulletin boards around the facility.  Hers was the first female case where “Security” had to keep replacing her picture as they kept “disappearing.” 

 

 

 

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Posted on Mon, Dec 03, 2012 12:28

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NGL2011..hi..oh well thats true real men are hard to find hihi...i feel sorry for men sometimes...all this confusion and on the top of it you have to wait for loong time on the girl when shopping and then still carry all the stuff back to the car (even insisting on it altough if there would be an assistent to carry that around...)hm..we girls are demanding maybe...in Sweden its very politically correct with stay at home mans...hehe...so how are you doing with sorting all this out..how do you see yourself in all this..and what do you think of botox plastic etc frenzy...? By the way..thanks for your kind words regarding my blog :-)


world, Sorting it all out, I kind of gave up on sorting it all out and just go with the flow. It seems much easier. LOL,,,Botox, and anything thats fake, I'm not all that into it. I think people should just age gracefully...workout, watch what you eat etc,,and it should be fine. I think we have come to a place in soceity where,,to be say 50 and act your age is not really acceptable. I find 50 to be an awesome age, I still have plenty of energy to do what I want, but the wisdom to know the difference between whats good for me and whats not. LOL I find it really funny actually what women and men are doing regarding age, botox, face lifts, pull this, tuck that. I remember a time when a man was thought to be manly and sexy when he had some hair on his chest,,,Sean Connery was a Women Magnet.. In my day it meant you were maturing, now it's unacceptable to alot of women,,weird.. Men in there 50's dating 30 year olds, women in their 50's dating 30 year olds and thinking it going to workout longterm. ( I know there are excepts to everything, but generally speaking) So as basically as a spectator around here, I now just kind of sit here, notice and read things and laugh inside.

 

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Posted on Mon, Dec 03, 2012 10:30

I personally do not see anything wrong with one having something done to make themselves feel or look better. I see most plastic surgeries the same as I do vision surgery so one can toss the contacts and glasses. The issue is when one lacks "emotional balance" and has these things done for the wrong reasons. IE: My bra is 32C... Perfect size for my body... However, I have GF who have NOTHING.. Clothes don't fit properly, they have no cleavage, which if shown properly can be very sensual and sexy in a tasteful manner... So would I feel they were wrong to get something done? Not at all... 

 

 

 

I found some stats from 2011 on plastic surgery in America.

 

 

 

 

 

The top five surgical 

 

 

 

procedures for women were:

 

 

 

breast augmentation, liposuction, 

 

 

 

tummy tuck, breast lift, and eyelid 

 

 

 

surgery.

 

 

 

Breast augmentation is fine, many women are enhanced by this procedure allowing clothing to fit properly, as well as feeling more "womanly" as they had no breast before. I view this the same as men having surgery to REDUCE their breast. What man wants "man boobs?" and what woman wants NO BOOBS? I do not care for how large many women get them, as I am more the type if I had a job done, I'd want to leave people guessing, "Did she or didn't she?" Rather than, "OMG! She couldn't have been born with those watermelons!" HA! I also have known of women who had cancer and getting the procedure done after losing their breast helped them to heal faster emotionally as well as feel like a woman again. Even women who are forced to have hysterectomies (which can't be seen) have emotional scars to contend with after, so I can only imagine what it must be like for breast cancer. 

 

 

 

LIPO is DA BOMB!! I'd lay on that table and get it done any day of the week, although it would be best for me to do something called REALLY EXERCISE!! I can see where overweight individuals would get a "positive lift" by having it done and it could set them on a good path for being healthier because they might feel motivated. 

 

 

 

Tummy tuck.. I've had 3 children, 1 ceserian, 1 emergency colon surgery, a second colon surgery to remove the "crap bag" I wore and I've had my gall bladder removed.. If I had the money to put my once beautiful tummy back like it was.. COUNT ME IN! :) I'm passing my "Tummy Fund Donation Can" around! LOL

 

 

 

Breast lift.. There is a tendon the doctor can pull up and tack down that puts our breast "back where they were long ago." After breast feeding 3 children for 13 months each, COUNT ME IN!! 

 

 

 

Eye Lid.. Hmmm.. Interesting. Had never thought about that, but I see how this could be beneficial. I have known of "droopy eyes" affecting ones vision..

 

 

 

Men had almost 800,000 cosmetic 

 

 

 

procedures, 9% of the total. The 

 

 

 

number of cosmetic procedures 

 

 

 

for men increased over 121% from 

 

 

 

1997. 

 

 

 

The top five surgical 

 

 

 

procedures for men were: 

 

 

 

liposuction, rhinoplasty, eyelid 

 

 

 

surgery, breast reduction to treat 

 

 

 

enlarged male breast, and facelift

 

 

 

 

 

Americans spent nearly $10 billion 

 

 

 

on cosmetic procedures in 2011. 

 

 

 

Of that total $6.2 billion was spent 

 

 

 

on surgical procedures; $1.7 billion 

 

 

 

was spent on injectable procedures; 

 

 

 

$1.6 billion was spent on skin 

 

 

 

rejuvenation procedures; and over 

 

 

 

$360 million was spent on other 

 

 

 

nonsurgical procedures, including 

 

 

 

laser hair removal and laser 

 

 

 

treatment of leg veins. 

 

 

 

Skin rejuvinating is excellent. I have not had any procedures done to enhance anything on me. Anything done to me was a life/death kind of thing, however, I am not against it as long as someone has a healthy mind set and is going into it for the proper reasons. 

 

 

 

As for the mirror incident, I don't view it that way at all. Many women don't even wash their hands after they do their business, so why would they care what they look like? IE: EASY wrote a blog about a woman with nasty legs. Well, obviously she didn't care enough to cover them up so they were noticed by her date. If anything, I find society could care less what others think about what they look like. 30% of Americans are OBESE. Obesity is not "fat".. Obesity is being 30% heavier than you are supposed to be... 67% of Americans are FAT or OBESE... That pretty much sums up that most people couldn't care less what anyone else thinks about what they look like. People do things for themselves. I also don't see women as competing against women. The kind of woman who is jealous etc.. is really only in competition with herself, so it would not matter what the other person looked like, she hates herself and would never be satisfied with the way she is.   

 

 

 

Very interesting topic WORLDMIND... I found out a few years ago what "metrosexual" meant... I never even knew men had manicures unless they were gay! I do find it interesting men having face lifts is in the top 5 for them... But not for women.. We either spend the money on our breast.. LOL.. or maybe all our years of Oil of Olay is working! ;) 

 

 



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Posted on Sun, Dec 02, 2012 15:34

NGL2011..hi..oh well thats true real men are hard to find hihi...i feel sorry for men sometimes...all this confusion and on the top of it you have to wait for loong time on the girl when shopping and then still carry all the stuff back to the car (even insisting on it altough if there would be an assistent to carry that around...)hm..we girls are demanding maybe...in Sweden its very politically correct with stay at home mans...hehe...so how are you doing with sorting all this out..how do you see yourself in all this..and what do you think of botox plastic etc frenzy...? By the way..thanks for your kind words regarding my blog :-)



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Posted on Sun, Dec 02, 2012 14:37

world,, yes the day of the rugged good looks is gone (seems anyhow) The day women considered the "Marlboro Man" as handsome has gone to the wayside. Now the clean shaven (everywhere) is the new fashion people get into. This along with several other issues of dating these days of Internet dating has left this man (and I'm sure others) dazed and confused.  LOL

 

Metrosexual,, heck I didn't even know what that was until recently,, but I had to ask..LOL a woman here asked me about if I have that kind of look,, I said,, what is it ?  LOL anyhow great blog you wrote..



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Posted on Sun, Dec 02, 2012 03:40

Hahaha OH Boy yeah Ive heard that before...hahaha by the way..I got Sophias pic just yesterday..never seen that one before..(or many others for that matter)..I just chose her as I think she is more interesting than the usual reference bunch people use for beauty like Norma Jeane Baker etc.



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