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Posted on Sat, Dec 08, 2012 15:03

Hoping4Love2000, Sorry for delaying to respond to your post & thanks alot for recognizing my efforts for peace on here. I do agree about most of what you are saying here and especially about the MM-cry-babies...one can just not imagine how many are like that, but still "playing" oh so tidy and nice kissy-kissy-style..

 

Another thought i got is that Im still not seeing some "actively" bloginvolved persons on here, expressively joining the peaceforce, especially if/when they have been involved in some issues herein...which in itself must say something about them...but im still hopeful :-)

 

Its is a sad story in regards to the Texas-Voyager episode, but as you say, we must concentrate on what the "abuse" button is for...

 

So...DONT ABUSE THE ABUSE BUTTON and let MM-concentrate on the websites effectiveness as that is really in need :-)

 

Wonderful passage you are enclosing by the way!

 

Its nice to agree on sharing understanding, love and peace/or at least PEACE.

 

Wish you all a nice weekend from a beautiful but oh so snow-chaotic Sweden - every year the same thing, society acting as it has never seen snow before eyh...


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Posted on Fri, Dec 07, 2012 02:32

Hello again Tinkerbelle, I think "reality" can many times be a relevant term, especially in the emotional kind of fields. Whos reality and where etc..I believe in true whole love hence its limitless ;-) but can respect those who see it differently. To keep peace does not always necessarily involve being in a sea of love...but I hope being in love involves being in oceans of peace :-) As I stated and always do...offcourse a discussion is a living creature and it can nibble but should not bite others heads off..and especially personal remarks etc. should be a big nono. Good that we seem to agree on that :-)



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Posted on Tue, Dec 04, 2012 23:59

Hiya Liv !!!! How ya doing?? Fishy .... I know what you mean, I remember when it was a real battle zone on here and yes there were still crybabies on here then.... However, I repeat, you can join in on here, you don't have to read my posts and blogs, you may violently disagree with what I say and voice your own opinions... But you may NOT and I repeat NOT slanderously attack my person. How's life in the woods?? World... All respect to you but you know, in real life there just isn't that much love to go round LMAO


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Posted on Tue, Dec 04, 2012 18:21

Quoting Tinkerbelle:

Hello world mind.... I have been here off anD off the blogs for years. I remember well the wars that have occurred here from time to time, and although what you say makes sense, the conflict also makes for great reading. Remember, too much nicety is deadly boring. I have been involved in some deadly wars on here with members being banned and all the other things you mention. We all know that it's easy for some to be forthright whilst hiding behind a computer screen, and they feel free to say things and express extreme opinions, something they would never have the guts to do face to face. Conflicts.... Well ok, but slanderous personal assasinations we cant have. I say grow up people. if you have something to say then say it and have the courage of your convictions and keep it non personal. for the rest.....stop running to MM like babies when the water gets too hot for you. forums like this are hotbeds for controversy ... That's what makes them interesting......The alternative and i shudder as I write this is sugar coated niceties and banal blogs . This is the reason some of our finest bloggers and enquiring minds have left.


BANG ON! Tinkerbelle....and happy to see you back here!

 

Liv.



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Posted on Tue, Dec 04, 2012 17:15

  Hi world,I think Tinkerbelle sums things up pretty well.I first got here during the message board days.It was fun for quite awhile then we got SpoilURotten.He got a kick insulting everyone,but me.It was so intence people were even trying to find him so he'd be arrested.Part of us split off,Adious,and that petered out after awhile.I still keep in touch with one lady and thru her the others but its getting less.

  On again off again thru the years.This last round of spats has me thinking off again might not be so bad.I've almost died so many times thru the years fishing that I've no patience for whinning crybabys that keep bring their crap from blog to blog.How do I know which one to NOT read?Already,many bloggers are not stopping in that I've been enjoying.

  I'll hang for a little while longer but I do live in the woods for a reason.


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Posted on Tue, Dec 04, 2012 02:57

Mtnsunny...you great you...offcourse..another amazing word...embrace...omfamna (Swedish).

Yes it is minus around 15 and snow so we are hoping the snow stays, but history has it, it sometimes disappears during the Holidays..hopefully this year it will stay thru Christmas & New Year...hope you are enjoying this time of year aswell....:-)


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Posted on Tue, Dec 04, 2012 01:13

Voyager54...Im sure you have a good heart and I do understand what facetious means and its fine mostly, im not far from that myself either :-)

 

 

...but either way everything in the world is bound into some kind of limitations...even the globe itself otherwise we would not be standing...

 

 

Imagine how much a flower urges to get out of her bud, but it has to "boringly" wait or how a butterfly urges to get out of the cocoon to be able to spread her wings to fly..but she has to "patiently" wait..limitation, restraints, natural laws etc. define alot of most...and when words are thrown around...one has too ask; Who is actually paying for these? Am I punshing the limitation border just for the sake of the sake and forcing others pay with their happiness/integrity etc. or am I paying myself etc...something I think we all think about in life...and also on here I hope :-)

 

 

Yes a great word Voyager..L O V E ...the very water for the Peace seed to grow into a beautiful flower...thats what we are all basically about, thats what brought us here from the get go...and needs to keep us here always. Kärlek (Love)

 

 

Köszönöm :-) - Gracias - Tack!


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Posted on Mon, Dec 03, 2012 12:46

Hi WORLDMIND... and ALL... 

 

Very nice gesture here and I know your heart is in the right place! Unfortunately however, some individuals thrive on negativity for attention and there is not much others can do but ignore them. I myself have been scarce these past few days as I am growing tired of it. It is affecting the overall experience here in a negative manner and I am not enjoying it. That is exactly why I opted out of political posts etc... as I don't care for the bickering, esp if it is of futile effort as I doubt anyone with a strong enough opinion to write about it is going to change their stance by something I say.  

 

I agree with TINKERBELLE that some "debates" can make for interesting reading, but not so much when personal attacks are made. I stand by my convictions and I am the same in person as I am on the boards. 

 

One thing mentioned by you and TINK is the "running to MM like babies." I AGREE! Running to MM regarding someone's behavior is RIDICULOUS and CHILDISH! The only time I sense a need for this is in a case where say some man writes some nasty sexual stuff to you privately .. I hit "Report abuse" as the man was very nasty in his letter to me.. Not the kind of people we want associated on this site, so I reported his behavior and MM thanked me. I did contact MM regarding THEIR behavior of censorship. Even though I found the one Texas Dr. annoying, classless, rude, disrespectful and downright insulting to most people... I STILL do not feel he should have been booted the way he was anymore than I felt V should have gotten the boot when he did. The man had poor social skills for certain, but unless someone is writing vile, nasty content... (like date rape fantasy blog) .. well, I don't believe in censoring. I hold strong issue with America right now on becoming more a socialist nation and censorship is one road that leads the path...

 

THANK YOU for trying to be the "Peace Maker"... I seriously do not understand why people get their panties in such a twist! ;)

 

There is a scripture in Corinthians that states:

 

"Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth." 

 

Regardless of anyone's personal beliefs on God, religion etc... Those remain some mighty powerful words for one to embrace... 

 

We have a choice every day to make.. We may choose to LOVE.. or we may choose to hate...

 

The Princess is going with LOVE~~~

 

 


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Posted on Mon, Dec 03, 2012 09:14

Sure hope so Dakota35, peace is beautiful.


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Posted on Mon, Dec 03, 2012 09:07

Hello Tinkerbelle and thanks for your inputs. As you might noticed, I’m rather new here but even so, I have witnessed some chaos, and I can only imagine what you must have been thru ;-)

 

Yeah, thanks for thinking that what I’m trying to get across as being senseful. I also agree with you that it’s easy for many to jump up and down and blow up their ego behind the screen and might be shaking in real life if going to act or say the same. Fortunately I’m not one of them, as I stand for what I say and say what I stand for…and off course we all must be wrong once in a while, as we are humans and faults/flaws define us as such.

 

Although I’m rather new into blogging itself, I do understand that there can be heat in some discussions, it’s the name of the game, but...as you also say, personal attacks are not ok, either they are made straight up on the blogs or cooking behind the scenes. Everyone must be let to create their own opinion on a subject and also on a blogger. Any anti-someone marketing activities are just reflecting on the marketer him/herself rather than on the marketed and ultimately comes off cheap.

 

I personally think it is possible to combine more niceness to respectful discussions without aiming for anyone’s throat an still have interesting dynamics in the blogs. I find it less tiring and less boring than watching people go at each other in this way. Subtle remarks of venom is more boring and ugly than none...

 

Sure, I don’t like sugarcoating either…be straight forward  to someone’s face instead of roaming behind the back and running to Headmaster MM like some sissy would be the best way…and if a person can’t be nice, then why bother at all. Just keep it to yourself, talk to your bird, dog, therapist, cat, horse or whomever about it outside of the blogworld if you may, and/or send that “annoying you” person a personal email and try to work your differences between yourselves, as that would be a business between few and other don’t have to watch roosters or cats fight (as I have heard several seem to say/feel, they like to enjoy the blogs as a “happy place”), although I can sense there are some who just enjoy such actions and others who enjoy entertaining them.

 

I say to them, catch the next plane to Spain and watch a bullfight instead ;-) or put a Fight Club-movie on…at least you get to enjoy some cute actors while getting some emotional steam countered or just have a meditation session if not a dart one ;-))) As that will not cost as much as trying to bring another humanbeing down just because he/she does not share the same mental or/and emotional spots as yourself in the world.

 

Life is too beautiful and too short for all this.


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Posted on Mon, Dec 03, 2012 08:12

Dear Windrider,

 

Thank you for your inputs and also for Hopings co-discussion with you…

 

Thanks for appreciating my peace-efforts, as I feel sometimes being in the line of fire…but still alive Thank God ;-)

 

I like a lot of what you are writing, especially “There's a world of difference between explaining why you believe a certain way and berating or calling someone names who doesn't share those beliefs”, so true.

 

Sure, nice way is to ask questions, why is this person thinking like that, give and receive backing or thoughts and feelings about that persons points without any need of attacks…we are all human beings, we do not share the same backgrounds etc hence we must have different ways of viewing the world etc. That’s the fun and non-boring part of it, that we are different from the get-go. I have noticed that even if people write in my humble opinion what they write attached to that might not always be so humble…feels sometimes more like trying to be “gentle” or/and trying to “look” good before the “hit” ;-))) as if to make it more “legitimate”…

 

Being able to apologize shows signs of greatness according to me. Furthermore, I personally believe in some shared responsibility in some angles of making others suffer in some ways.

 

I can see what you might mean, that when not knowing a person and just giving your opinion on a subject and this person gets upset etc, then it’s not easy to take such responsibility and one should not need to apologize for his/her opinion unless great hurtfulness or so surface...when on the other hand knowing someone and still pushing buttons or in either way personally attacking someone should result in some responsibility, hence “sorry” exists…balance is key according to me.


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Posted on Mon, Dec 03, 2012 01:40

Voyager54...Well I dont quite agree about that..and dont see what kind of history you mean...as peace efforts are the only thing keeping humanity alive and most who engage in such and put themselves between two or more lines of fire are heroes to many...even though the warhungry would maybe be upset as they like to get good warmeals otherwise they think they would starve (addictive behaviour) but they will not, they will just fill their burning stomachs with peace instead of war and that tastes million times better - I know that good taste.

 

 

Voyager54, this post is meant between humans not nonhearted robots. This kind of peace making is obviously a tricky thing as the warhungry maybe would have hard times getting to the table...

 

 

Dear Voyager54..please allow all wash their own dirty laundry...even if you worked in parking lots before...and manly labor is most times admirable in general situations...

 

 

Hopefully all will easen up and make some proper and heartfelt efforts to prove their human sides..as this is a good fair chance for all.

 

 

Hey there Voyager-man, you must know that Im a REAL lady and if I find it hard to even call irl with people from forums..I would most certainly NOT even like such "hose" stuff being insinuated...especially and as I stated in my Infidelity 2012 blog that I have never even had a one night stand being brought up in my country where one-night-stands are rather common and not even kissed a boy on the first date or second hihi...I believe such issues are meant to be addressed between the woman & her man exclusively and NEVER anyone else. I know you joke with many about such stuff..but please not me...


 

Hope you will calm down, as I think you have a good heart...and please practice targeting peoples good will and happy hearts with arrows of the lovely Cupid. Yes you can! ;-)))


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Posted on Sun, Dec 02, 2012 03:46

Voyager whow whow whow hold your hoses..put that hose down now willya..whats going on with you..I assume you are joking although its not funny and there are no losers except the lost..are you lost? How is your soul doing? Who made you so angry? Comeon, do tell..Do you want to say something nice instead..sorry to someone/s or just lighten you burden and heavy heart? Lets hear it...come on..preach peace not war...your comment is not the kind of "peacetalks" I meant uhm..



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Posted on Sat, Dec 01, 2012 20:34

Dearest Mtnsunny,

 

Thanks for your so kind comments and it makes me very happy to be able to give you food for thoughts etc thru my blogs along with others here. Even if your profile would turn "invisible" here, you shall be visible in my mind.

 

Well, you say that you are not so lucky in love, although you seem to be one of those people who ARE love...ie need not seek as you are found, and your children must be lucky as can be :)

 

Amazing what you have achieved thus far, four children raised by you...that is priceless.


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Posted on Sat, Dec 01, 2012 20:18

Dear brew444, Thanks for your ineteresting and nice comment. Well, I do understand what you mean. It is happening everywhere about everything, people judging people. We also have politicians sitting in a warm, nice, clean rooms having a splendid meal with champagne, deciding the life and future of millions of people out and around, who might not even have a tent as a house and no water to drink or be fighting wars facing fears, destruction and blood eye-to-eye -makaing it even possible for the folks to sit and have that dinner - just because someone in that lavish room made that decision, most probably without even being in those peoples shoes. The "Marie-Antoinette"-curse I call it.

 

Furthermore, I totally agree with you and always said, that some of the most respectable people are the craftsmen, as they are all genuine and natural. They are what they do and do what they are, that is so amazing.

 

See, I heard that one (if not the most) intelligent man is a night-club bouncer, tested his IQ and OH WOW people didnt get why he is not using it to do other things...but he is content.

 

Then one more guy someone told me about (Im not sure about the details though), who solved some mathematical formula, a huge achievement, lived in the woods of Russia (?), got an invitation to meet a board of "wisemen", and to get a prize, he sent them a simple letter stating somethng like this; "if you can judge my achiement and intelligence, then must you be more intelligent than me...and that is not the case, thank you, but keep your prize for your selves, my prize is me"...

 

So yeah, it is sooo easy to point a finger, but it is better although harder to direct that finger on one self. Introspection is a beautiful thing.


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Posted on Sat, Dec 01, 2012 11:40

Admirable.  Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the children of God.



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Posted on Sat, Dec 01, 2012 04:13

Worldmind...   Hope and I were discussing this very problem yesterday morning. It's a topic that needs to be addressed, and I'm glad to see you've done just that.   What everyone needs to understand is that a blog is a place for each of us to share our beliefs, stories, dreams and political views. It's a place for discussions, not mud slinging. There's a world of difference between explaining why you believe a certain way and berating or calling someone names who doesn't share those beliefs. I've seen it happen here several times, and when it does, emotions tend to get out of control and fights start. A much better way of sharing your views, so no one will take it as a personal affront, might be to start out with. "In my opinion" or 'I feel" instead of throwing it out in a way that reads as though it's being aimed at one or two individuals. We can't (or shouldn't) be offended when we ask for opinions on a topic and the responses differ from what we believe, nor do we have the right to try to 'force' our thoughts, actions, or beliefs on others. We do have the ability to accept differences without having them make us angry. Just because we disagree with someone doesn't mean we have to tell them they're wrong in a manner that comes out inferring they're stupid. Just remember...our views probably sound just as off-the-wall to them. Read their thoughts about the subject and move on...you don't have to either agree or disagree...it's their opinion, not yours.    A good blogger, in a situation where comments are expected, has to be open minded enough to read other's thoughts on a subject and mull them over before either rejecting or accepting them as something they'd like to embrace. In too many instances here, I've seen someone blog on a topic and then come back angrily at a comment that appeared to be nothing more than an attempt at dark humor. People see things differently, so how about giving the blogger or responder the benefit of the doubt and just ask, in a nice way, to clarify the remark/post so no misunderstandings take place. Some are more articulate than others, and no one seems to get offended if someone has asked them to clarify something they put on a blog. It means the reader is interested in the topic and wants to make sure they understand exactly what was being said.   All of your suggestions are good. I apologize if I've said anything that I shouldn't have, but I do not apologize for making anyone angry. No one has the power to make another person angry...it's the decision each of us make whether or not we'll allow ourselves to get angry over words, events or trivial happenings in our lives.


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Posted on Fri, Nov 30, 2012 23:50

Hello world mind.... I have been here off anD off the blogs for years. I remember well the wars that have occurred here from time to time, and although what you say makes sense, the conflict also makes for great reading. Remember, too much nicety is deadly boring. I have been involved in some deadly wars on here with members being banned and all the other things you mention. We all know that it's easy for some to be forthright whilst hiding behind a computer screen, and they feel free to say things and express extreme opinions, something they would never have the guts to do face to face. Conflicts.... Well ok, but slanderous personal assasinations we cant have. I say grow up people. if you have something to say then say it and have the courage of your convictions and keep it non personal. for the rest.....stop running to MM like babies when the water gets too hot for you. forums like this are hotbeds for controversy ... That's what makes them interesting......The alternative and i shudder as I write this is sugar coated niceties and banal blogs . This is the reason some of our finest bloggers and enquiring minds have left.


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Posted on Fri, Nov 30, 2012 15:45

I am new to all this blog, but I will say Worldmind that I liked your post and it was very well written. I also can tell you that i have had chatters from differnt parts of the world be upset with Sportsman who hunt and fish. In many rural areas of this country it is a way of life and it is important for all of us to try and understand without passing judgement on others. Some of the most interesting and intellegent people I have ever met were guys and woman working as chashiers or doing construction. All of us have a right to have our say, some can do it without being insulting or volgar.

 Just a few thoughts bouncing around in head as I read your comments.



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