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Posted on Thu, Nov 08, 2012 12:28

With the election finally over and the Holidays approaching, I felt it might be a great time to share this commentary I recently read that gave me "food for thought." Although it was written in 2005, I feel it applies heavily to today's times. 

 

I myself have grown tired of hearing advice on how to greet others during Christmas time ... "Say Happy Holidays... Don't say Merry Christmas!" As a newer CHRISTian... (4 years now) I WANT to say MERRY CHRISTMAS and I've wanted to say it since I was a little girl who would hide in my room singing "Rocking Around the Christmas Tree" "hoping" my mother wouldn't come in and take the tape away from me. (non Christian) I wasn't allowed the FREEDOM to partake in Christmas, so now I want to relish it for the newer meaning I know of it... So I want to cherish it for MY newfound beliefs.. not some commercialized "Let's make it work for everyone" hype! 

 

Oddly, I have felt a certain connection with a couple of Jewish men. First with Rabbi Albert Lewis as portrayed in "Have a Little Faith" by Mitch Albom (another Jew) and in reading this, I enjoy Ben's open wisdom as well....  ACCEPTANCE, for me, IS KEY....... I accept others, despite what they may NOT believe in... Therefore I would like a little respect and common courtesy for what I feel is important. I feel Ben says this best.... 









The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday  Morning  Commentary.

My confession: 

I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish.  And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees, Christmas trees...  I don't feel threatened..  I don't feel discriminated against.. That's what they are, Christmas trees. 

It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, 'Merry Christmas' to me.  I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto.  In fact, I kind of like it.  It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu .  If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away. 

I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians.  I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period.  I have no idea where the concept came from, that America is an explicitly atheist country.  I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat. 

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship celebrities and we aren't allowed to worship God as we understand Him?  I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too.  But there are a lot of us who are wondering where these celebrities came from and where the America we knew went to. 

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different:  This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.

In light of recent events... terrorists attack, school shootings, etc..  I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK.  Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school.  The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself.  And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide).  We said an expert should know what he's talking about..  And we said okay..

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.  I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.' 

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell.  Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.  Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing.  Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace. 

Are you laughing yet? 

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it. 

Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us. 

Pass it on if you think it has merit. 
  
If not, then just discard it... no one will know you did.  But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in.  

My Best Regards,  Honestly and respectfully, 

Ben Stein

 

 


 

 

 


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Posted on Sat, Nov 24, 2012 16:03

I think Mr Steins article is interesting and wellbalanced. I do think believing in something good..and when that Good unloads an O in a calming and worshipping delight and beomes God is a good thing that more should try...its a remedy for many aches and enabler for many joys. 



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Posted on Wed, Nov 21, 2012 10:50

I know this is off the subject Hope, but the subject has been raised so I think it is fair game.

 

I think as a least worst alternative abortion has to be freely available; anybody who wants one.  Any other situation allows it to be denied when it should not be.  Not always, but too many times to be acceptable.    

 

Mother’s life at risk -- How much risk is too much risk?  While the MDs are arguing that over the mother to be dies.  We have an example of that recently.

 

Rape victim – Not all rape victims go to the police or even for immediate medical care.  Later on find out they are pregnant.   Yes they should have done lots of things, but they did not.  Now have to find an MD willing to do it.  No abortion clinic down the street when abortions are illegal.  This should not be hard, but in this screwed up world it sometimes is.   Finding someone willing to do an abortion is sometime difficult even now.  Big cities not so much; one MD towns – it could be tough. 

 

Even if the rape victim goes in for immediate medical care, in a hyper anti-abortion environment the MDs are afraid to do the routine D & C or other procedures that would preclude pregnancy for fear of being prosecuted for doing abortions.   We have been there.  Back in the 50’s/60’s.    

 

Mother to be isn’t even old enough to be safely carrying a baby.   One might think that this would be covered by the Mother’s life is at risk rule.  Her life may not be at risk, but there may be severe health consequences.

 

Aborting a deformed baby.  I think that decision has to be made by the parents to be.  Nobody else has to care for it.  Pay for the special education.  Pay for the special health care.  Until society is willing to jump in and completely provide support to take care of all those concerns, society should bloody well butt out of that decision.   Yes, I know it may well depend on degree of deformation or disability, but when we get to arguing about degree, people are denied who should not be. 

 

Birth control of last resort.  I think this is arguably stupid.  Still, sometimes people are arguably stupid.  Sometimes even very bright people.   Do we really want people to have babies they do not want?  Or can’t support?  Or can’t care for?   We have too many unwanted children as it is.

 

RMac



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Posted on Sat, Nov 17, 2012 17:52

Quoting MONICAR550HP:

I agree with you that we spend too much time being concerned about what others think about us rather than what God thinks.


Monica, I have a serious question for you.  As I'm sure you are aware the Democratic party (which you seem to support) is pro-choice or in other less political words pro-abortion.  You speak of what God thinks of us which indicates to me that you are a Christian.  Can you explain to me how a true Christian could ever support a cause which terminates a life?  People ask "What would Jesus do" would Jesus suggest to a woman to terminate the life of her child?  I am just trying to understand as it is beyond me to think Jesus would suggest such.  At least the Jesus and God that I believe in.  Please do not justify by suggesting a timeframe after conception (or knowing ones pregnant) in which life begins. 

 


As for my own thoughts on the subject.  There are 2 cases which I think abortion is a option. 1. Mother's life is at risk.  After much thought on the subject, I have come to the conclusion that the mother's life is of greater important's than the child. Why you may ask?...because the mother may have other children and probably for sure has people that love her.  The child has not established this, thus less important.  Hard to say but true.  These are rare cases

 

2.  In the case of rape.  I feel that a child conceived by rape was conceived by unholy non consensual means.  Thus leaving the mother to chose how she feels.  Once again, these cases are rare since when a woman contact authorities after a rape the first thing that is done is that she is taken to the hospital.  The hospital give medication to help guard against STD and pregnancy.

 

As I've told many, there is one last case in which I am unsure.  If a child is to be born with severe deformities.  Life is very difficult sometimes even for us/those born without problems.  So this would be a very difficult decision, a decision I hope I never have to make. 

As a final word, I am not sure what I believe about the morning after pill.  There is a part of me that thinks it's okay as long as it's used correctly.  Oral birth control can be used in the same way.  There are so many children that are not cared for due to bad mothers that never wanted a child.  Of course a child to some of these women actually becomes a blessing and life savor.



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Posted on Wed, Nov 14, 2012 06:05

NO PAT... It's TRUE!!! Not the ony time it has happened either.. Even Michelle has been caught being "unpatriotic." ...

 

The photo was taken sometime in September 2007... Indianola, Iowa.. steak fry attended by the top 6 Democratic nominees... Published first in TIME magazine... 

 

It is argued by Democrats that the law for holding hand over heart is "outdated" for the National Anthem, that is only counts during pledge.. 

 

My point was... Kind of like how I feel about cops... They should be held to a higher standard... If you are going to make the rules, you better follow the ones previously provided.. 

 

TRUE PHOTO PEOPLE!! ;)

 

 



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Posted on Tue, Nov 13, 2012 20:46

WINDY... I know exactly what you mean... I do not try and "convert" anyone... nor will I judge anyone for what they believe.. Got in discussion about abortion and politics the other day on anther social site.. and one Christian lady insulted me for saying I was Pro-Choice... Well, I am... 

 

I beleive in the Constitution ... and it clearly says to separate CHURCH and STATE... Abortion (murder) is a RELIGIOUS belief... And religion to me has nothing to do with politics.. But the Christian friend was upset with me for MY feelings.. 

 

I feel how I feel and I am NOT convicted in my heart of what most Christians feel so strongly about..

 

But even within the Christian community, people try to change one another... I had enough of people telling me what to believe as a littl girl... 

 

MONICAR... Yes, that line hit me like a BRICK girl! I find it very scary to see how we once thought certain things were best, only to find they weren't.

 

I did look up the Dr. Spock claim.... and it wasn't his son, it was his grandson, who had schizophrenia...

 

I also looked up the Ohare incident... She was definitely an aetheist and fought to have prayer removed from school... God served no purpose.. She and her family later brutaly murdered!! ... We often think we have right ideas only to see we don't. I feel the world just lacks "balance." 

 

We have Democrats standing for abortion, but they don't believe in death penalty.. And Republicans against abortion, but are first in line to pull the plug.. 



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Posted on Tue, Nov 13, 2012 18:08

Quoting Hoping4Love2000:

DAKOTA... It is so nice to see you back here!! Demanding huh? Okay, I will add that to my list of generalizations of Jews... 

 

 

 

1) Cheap ... 

 

 

 

2) Demanding

 

 

 

3) Monotoned! 

 

 

 

4) Big noses

 

 

 

5) BUT BRILLIANT!!! 

 

 

 

Heehee~~ I sooo enjoyed this commentary and I am a huge Mitch Albom fan (Jew) and the Rabbi in the book I have read several times.. If I had dinner with people... That Rabbi is top on my list! And Mitch just made him come to life! 

 

 

 

RMAC... Good to see you dear! ;) Sad that his thoughts are so true to life... 

 

 

 

CURIOUS... I soooo loved this and I truly feel "cheated" all those years of school and life and never having Christmas or being able to be normal... and now it appears what was normal then, is not so much now! :( I was ostracized as a child due to my mom's faith (Jehovah's Witness) and it created a lot of emotional damage not "fitting in" and always being different. I guess that's why I enjoy blogging so much. I don't have to meet people and feel shy or embarrassed.. I just get to hit keys and be myself... What's really wierd is so many ppl utilize the net to be someone else.. I use it so I can finally be "Little ole me!" 

 

 

 

One note for anyone wondering... WHY it bothers me so tremendously the pictures where Obama did not have his hand over his heart during the National Anthem like everyone else... 

 

 

 

One of the most difficult things I endured being "different" as a JW child, was when I started first grade, (there was no kindergaten where I lived back then...) and for 4 very long years, each and every morning in elementary school, the principal would announce over the intercom beginning our day and say.. "Okay classes, everyone rise to say the Pledge of Allegiance." And there was one little girl that every morning started her day off with standing up in front of the entire class, 20-30 kids she YEARNED to connect with, yet she was forced to walk outside the classroom and wait until the pledge was over before she came back in, B/C her mother felt it was "worshiping a false idol" if she stayed in the room with her hand over her heart. THAT for me was the hardest part of growing up in that "cult" environment and that is WHY I detest that Obama would ever consider himself "worthy" of being a United States President! Lack of RESPECT for the country I love, which shows me the same attitude as my mother has! Things that many of you have taken forgranted, I cherish to the core of my being, because I never got to embrace the normalcy of living as an American. I now have serious concern we are headed in the wrong direction! 



You all know I don't want to defend Obama EVER!!! But this shot is, if I recall, photoshopped.  If not photoshopped, "wrong" in some way, and not realy real.

 

Check it out, folks.  Google this shot.  You'll see it's not quite the thing it appears to be.  It was one of those pix that the extreme right wing tried to use against him early on during his first campaign.

 

BUT--as I indicated, and as everyone knows, I'm not here to defend Obummer.  But--we've got to stick to the truth.  The truth about this man is more than we need to condemn him.  We don't need any manufactured crap to substantiate the truth. 

 

The "boy" is bad enough on his own.  He needs no embellishment to condemn him as a seditionist and a traitor to our country and its Constitution and Bill of Rights.  The truth should, and, I am convinced, will, in the end, suffice.

 

Just pray that in the meantime God protects and saves all of us waiting for that moment of truth. 



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Posted on Tue, Nov 13, 2012 18:04

I agree with you that we spend too much time being concerned about what others think about us rather than what God thinks.



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Posted on Tue, Nov 13, 2012 18:01

Quoting Dakota35:

Curious, I guess I'm going to get in trouble along with you...as I agree with everything you said.  I take no issue with Jewish people, in fact they treat me quite well.  Hey Hope, you've met me...do you think I look Jewish???  You know they treat their own well.   I have the "cheap" part down to a science. :)  And Curious, I feel your "blue funk" pain.

 

Hope, correct me if I'm wrong...but are not JW just misguided Christians?  They are Christian, just screwed up ones that like to knock on peoples door at the most inconvenient time?  My aunt is JW.  What I notice is that they try to convert people at people's weakest moment.  I'm to hard headed to be converted. I'm just Christian...don't identify myself with any denomination.

 

Hope, it is very sad that you missed out on Christmas as a child, that is some of my fondest memories.  Christmas is truly a blessing and has such a wonderful feel to it.



Dakota, all things considered, we are in no trouble at all. 

None at all. 

 

Pat



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Posted on Tue, Nov 13, 2012 15:11

Hoping, I'm happy for you that you will be celebrating Christmas in the most genuine way.  I'm sorry about what happened in your childhood. This is one reason why we should never think the grass is greener for someone else. We never know what trials they have been through.

Don't ever think that you are rambling. Your rambling may be something that someone else really needed to learn. We learn from the positive and negative blogs, and bloggers on here!!

I didn't realize JW's didn't believe in Hell, or at least some of them don't. You would think with all their rules, that there would be  the belief of a horrible experience that nevers ends(Hell) if you didn't follow them. 



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Posted on Mon, Nov 12, 2012 06:04

LOLOL.... DAKOTA... I don't really know if you "look" Jewish or not... (I don't recall your beak as large as Jamie Farr's!!) But I will attest to the fact you give a Jewish man another reason to hide his wallet! Heehee~ Any man who frequents a restaurant with peanuts on the ground! ;)

 

In regard to JW... I feel, YES, they are misguided "Christians"... They believe Jesus is son of God / came to Earth / yada yada... But they ARGUE there was no cross... it was a stake! My mother and I argued over this after I found Jesus.. (HE... was lost! HA!) She was adamant He died on a stake and I was like ... "I don't care if he died on a totum pole... It's the SACRIFICE that counts!" They wish to set themselves "apart" from all other religions.. I was not allowed to use the word "church" or "Christian" in my house.. and JW was NOT a "religion." I was not allowed to go to "worldly peoples" homes. I could not join sports or try for cheerleader.. That would be "mixing with the world!"

 

It has "evolved" in all this time... I am 45, so I was "invaded" 40 years ago with it. Turned my back on it as a teen... 30 years ago....I felt it was extremely "judgmental" and I wanted no part of God if He was that "harsh!" They cast people out of the "congregation"  for sinning if the elders deem it is an evil enough sin...(Remember, not church!) And they "tell" on each other. My mother turned her brother in for being an alcoholic! (He was disfellowshipped due to his behavior) I've witnessed pregnant teens get "disfellowshipped." As far as my mother was concerned I would never measure up. So as far as I was concerend, WHY TRY? She told me once she liked one of my sisters in law better B/C she was a "good girl" and a virgin when she married my brother. When I married the first time, I was 18.. I had lived with my BF... I caled her to tell her.. (I was soooo excited! You know.. young and stupid at 18!! LOL) Her EXACT words... "Why would he marry you now that you've lived with him in sin? You're nothing but old meat."  At first she refused to come to wedding. 

 

Second ex... I married "baby daddy" LOL... on New Years Eve 1995... We already had 2 children, a boat, house, yada yada... So why not get married... My mother REFUSED to take a picture with me B/C Christmas trees were in the background... 

 

Is this due to her religion? Or is she just a mean lady? I'm not certain... But therapists have told me to avoid her.... Yes, it appears I always need therapy after I see her! Bwahahahaha!! ;) 

 

In her defense though, I think she is emotionally unstable... Things happened to her which I would not repeat here.. BUT.. I think she has some severe "attachment issues" ..... I do feel sorry for her.. But I seriously believe that religion / cult / whatever it is.... hurt her all the more...  I do admire her for holding fast to her faith though.... at all costs... even the cost of loving your child... JW ARE STAUNCH ON THEIR BELIEFS! And BTW.. I do know some awesome witnesses.. As I said, my mother has some issues and is not healthy... So in no way would I wish to infer JW are horrible people. (or even my mother...) 

 

JW Beliefs...

 

BIRTHDAYS- Don't celebrate them or acknowledge at all... Claim is there are three BD's in Bible and people are killed.. (John Baptist etc) 

 

CHRISTMAS- Bible says to "Celebrate His Resurection" not to celebrate His birth, so they don't. They also claim He was born in October I think? 

 

VALENTINE / HALLOWEEN- Pagen

 

THANKSGIVING- Again, not a "God" holiday.

 

PASSOVER- Not sure what it's called? But they DO celebrate .. not EASTER, but they acknowledge the idea behind Easter. I am new to all this, so what is Easter? The 3 days of death thing? Okay, I don't think that is it? Passover is the "blood thing" right? Well, they do acknowledge when Jesus was resurrected. But in so far as "heaven" they claim only 144,000 will go and help God reign one day.. And at church.. (oops!) when they pass the fake wine around.. if someone drinks it... That signifies they have been called as one of the 144,000.. No one else is allowed to partake. 

 

MILITARY- Not allowed to vote.. Bible says to stay away from "Worldly" things.. Also says "Thou shalt not kill" so military is bad... NO PLEDGE, as FALSE IDOL... Not to worship country.. or any military things... (CRAZY TO ME! Our men (and women) who have sacrificed are the REASON they can worship the way they choose to begin with!!) Makes no sense to me!!

 

HEAVEN and HELL.. They do NOT believe in HELL.. They believe when you are dead.. You are DEAD.. I like that theory.. So I roll with it! LOL.. But I WANT to believe in the Heaven part, so for me Heaven is kind of like Mitch Albom describes in "Five People You Meet in Heaven"... But they do not believe in Heaven as Christians do.. I still have my cards out on all that stuff.. Too much for my little blonde brain to switch gears! ;)

 

I also had to "dress up" for church... always in a dress (which I love dresses!!) BUT.. the premise (for me) is that I just want to be myself.. When I speak to God, I just speak to Him just like He was you.. I figure He already knows what is in my brain, so if I don't say it then I am trying to "fool" Him... 

 

Oh and I was also one of those children forced to go door to door... CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THAT DOES TO A CHILD!! Always wondering if one of your 3rd grade classmates saw you and is telling everybody at school and laughing at you! 

 

AND.. to make matters worse.. I was UGLY and POOR! I started "shaping up around 14..." But I was one of the ugliest kids you ever saw! Buck teeth, stringy hair... skinny as a toothpick!! AND MY MOM MADE MY HOMELY CLOTHES! I was like the "ugly stick" you always heard of! 

 

PRAISE JESUS FOR THAT WHOLE "SWAN" THEORY!! HeeHeeHee~~

 

So I guess that about covers the WHYS in my "kookiness".. (Well, maybe not ALL of it!!!) LOLOL.. 

 

Your Princess.. HA! 

 

Keepin it Real..... Keepin it Real~~

 

 



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Posted on Mon, Nov 12, 2012 04:43

I have a great admiration for Jews. What I don't understand is why every denomination seems to try to convert others to their own beliefs. As long as we believe in a Higher Power, does it really matter so much how we address that Power? Isn't the most important thing to live our beliefs instead of just proclaiming them? Words are cheap, it's actions that speak who we are.

 

I'm not referring to radical groups that proclaim themselves religious while killing everyone they can who don't belong to their cult, but people who live their lives according to their beliefs and show respect and compassion to others.



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Posted on Sun, Nov 11, 2012 06:16

Curious, I guess I'm going to get in trouble along with you...as I agree with everything you said.  I take no issue with Jewish people, in fact they treat me quite well.  Hey Hope, you've met me...do you think I look Jewish???  You know they treat their own well.   I have the "cheap" part down to a science. :)  And Curious, I feel your "blue funk" pain.

 

Hope, correct me if I'm wrong...but are not JW just misguided Christians?  They are Christian, just screwed up ones that like to knock on peoples door at the most inconvenient time?  My aunt is JW.  What I notice is that they try to convert people at people's weakest moment.  I'm to hard headed to be converted. I'm just Christian...don't identify myself with any denomination.

 

Hope, it is very sad that you missed out on Christmas as a child, that is some of my fondest memories.  Christmas is truly a blessing and has such a wonderful feel to it.



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Posted on Fri, Nov 09, 2012 20:31

DAKOTA... It is so nice to see you back here!! Demanding huh? Okay, I will add that to my list of generalizations of Jews... 

 

 

 

1) Cheap ... 

 

 

 

2) Demanding

 

 

 

3) Monotoned! 

 

 

 

4) Big noses

 

 

 

5) BUT BRILLIANT!!! 

 

 

 

Heehee~~ I sooo enjoyed this commentary and I am a huge Mitch Albom fan (Jew) and the Rabbi in the book I have read several times.. If I had dinner with people... That Rabbi is top on my list! And Mitch just made him come to life! 

 

 

 

RMAC... Good to see you dear! ;) Sad that his thoughts are so true to life... 

 

 

 

CURIOUS... I soooo loved this and I truly feel "cheated" all those years of school and life and never having Christmas or being able to be normal... and now it appears what was normal then, is not so much now! :( I was ostracized as a child due to my mom's faith (Jehovah's Witness) and it created a lot of emotional damage not "fitting in" and always being different. I guess that's why I enjoy blogging so much. I don't have to meet people and feel shy or embarrassed.. I just get to hit keys and be myself... What's really wierd is so many ppl utilize the net to be someone else.. I use it so I can finally be "Little ole me!" 

 

 

 

One note for anyone wondering... WHY it bothers me so tremendously the pictures where Obama did not have his hand over his heart during the National Anthem like everyone else... 

 

 

 

One of the most difficult things I endured being "different" as a JW child, was when I started first grade, (there was no kindergaten where I lived back then...) and for 4 very long years, each and every morning in elementary school, the principal would announce over the intercom beginning our day and say.. "Okay classes, everyone rise to say the Pledge of Allegiance." And there was one little girl that every morning started her day off with standing up in front of the entire class, 20-30 kids she YEARNED to connect with, yet she was forced to walk outside the classroom and wait until the pledge was over before she came back in, B/C her mother felt it was "worshiping a false idol" if she stayed in the room with her hand over her heart. THAT for me was the hardest part of growing up in that "cult" environment and that is WHY I detest that Obama would ever consider himself "worthy" of being a United States President! Lack of RESPECT for the country I love, which shows me the same attitude as my mother has! Things that many of you have taken forgranted, I cherish to the core of my being, because I never got to embrace the normalcy of living as an American. I now have serious concern we are headed in the wrong direction! 


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Posted on Fri, Nov 09, 2012 17:54

I seem to remember hearing Stein say/or recite the first few paragraphs of this essay last year around Christmas time, or the year before.

 

Wise words indeed.  I don't always agree with him, but the man is very bright and I respect his opinions even when I do disagree with him.

 

One short note--which may get me in terrible trouble:  There is nothing in mainstream or slightly to the right of mainstream Christianity, no practices those folks indulge and even revel in, that in any way conflicts with or steps on the toes of mainstream or slightly to the right of mainstream Judaism.  And vice versa.  The two groups of believers can, and most often do coexist very well indeed.  I, for one have never known a Jew of any stripe to object to Christmas ornaments and lights, or Christmas music being played in public venues.  My late best friend Miriam, an Orthodox Jewess, loved to take night rides around our old town and the surrounding areas just to see the Christmas displays.  She loved them.  And, by the way, her Rabbi had no objection to her enjoying that.  She also loved a lot of Christmas music, and had no conflict in her soul for loving it.  As far as she was concerned it was just another genre like Country Western or Classical. 

 

For me, and for so many of us, I think the serious problem arises when the religious practices of others steps on the toes of us Christians and Jews--and on the toes of the practitioners of other religions that can quite easily coexist with Christianity and Judaism.

 

Yes, I'm talking about what we are currently calling "extreme Islamists" who want to see Sharia law recognized by our courts.  Sharia law steps on all our toes because it defies the God-given rights in our Constitution and Bill of Rights, and yet some states are allowing it to govern their courts' decisions.  I'm also talking about those athiests who would strip our public culture of all references to God and the Holy Bible and the Torah.  Which means I'm also talking about the ACLU taking up the cases of such lunatics. 

 

Actually, I've kind of lost the point I was going for.  I'm sorry to be so rambling.  Chalk it up to my still being in an awful, blue funk since late Tuesday night when it was clear that America's Chief Arrogant Socialist will remain in power for another four years.

 

May God have great mercy on us all.  Even on the athiests who don't believe in Him, as well as on the ACLU lawyers who think they are actually and always on the sight of our civil rights.

 

Oh, and by the way, no doubt Hope will pick up on where I was going with this when I lost my way and have something to add.  I do "hope" so.   

 

 

 

 



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Posted on Fri, Nov 09, 2012 10:32

Hi Hope.  I like his comments too.

RMac



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Posted on Fri, Nov 09, 2012 04:09

Ben Stein, is a character for sure. "Bueller...Bueller...Bueller"  He came down to support the Republican party and give a speach many years ago.  A buddy of mine was in charge of getting everything he needed.  He was very demanding (from what I was told) to say the least.



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