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Posted on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 10:42

I am new goldmemeber/in the blogs here, but I know there was just a memeber here called Voyager54, a man with a smile holding a small cute dog on his pic and had over 800 blog posts under his belt.

 

 

I do not know him personally, but he did post some rather cute comments on my blogs.

 

 

Then something happened between him and another member, and now I do not see his blogs.

 

 

First and foremost, I cant emphasize enough how important r e s p e c t is between humanbeings (even though someone thought it seems to be kind of a "naive" mindset on the blogs before this happened), especially on blogs like this, where we cant experience another persons proper being, know their story behind the screen and see their nuanses etc.

 

I have said this several times before here already...despite being new in blogging, that I do not agree with personal attacks , as I find it a sign of weakness in argumenting opinions etc. and I do not quite get why people who have a problem cant just solve it off records off blogs and as private messages between one another...whats the royal thing about washing dirty laundry in public? This should be the general practice here i suggest.

 

 

If you do not like something about a person, and have something personal to add about this persons actions, person etc. send him/her a private message and solve it between yourselves, let the blogs be about rational arguments and opinions in regards to topics at hand.


Another thing, involving religion (a personal matter indeed), such as the usual blaming of the everlasting innocent Jesus into the mix, is of poor arguments and no relevance. I think Jesus should be left out of all negative equations, as He certainly showed the most amount of bravery, stood up for and sacrificed Himself for His and our cause without hurting anything or anyone...He practised what He preached unlike several of His so called followers..so..those people who roam around calling themselves Christians but behaving oddly, should think twice about what and who they are claiming to represent...and renovate their actions in regards to "turn the other cheek", "forgive thy enemy", "dont cast the first stone" etc...meaning be a true Jesus follower if you are.

 

 

There are several alternative and peaceful ways of solving a problem which does not include punishment etc.

 

So...what did really happen in the case of Voyager54, and what is this blog societys opinion on the current situation?

 

 

 

Please note that no personal attacks are accepted.


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Posted on Tue, Dec 25, 2012 16:34

Readers note:


It has come to my attention that Voyager54 seems to no longer be with us..again...if that is the case, then that might be why his comments on here and elsewhere are missing, so that readers of my blogs who notice some slight incontinuity understand that.


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Posted on Sat, Oct 06, 2012 07:30

Quoting Voyager54:

~All~  That member threw me overboard when I wasn't looking and it was dark and the waters rough and cold...but ALL OF YOU, through out a life line and saved me from that menacing shark!

I told y'all in my profile...I am NOT TAR-ZAN!

Thanks for everything you did.

 

NOW...we can all hold hands and take warm showers together!



Thought that "not TAR-ZAN" thing only applied to alligators, farm boy. Not to worry...I'll be glad to take care of those for y'all (I kinda like the onery critters).  You just keep your eyes open for the sharks from now on. Think this group pretty much has each other's back.

How the heck can you take a shower holding hands? (what do you use to lather up?)

 

 

 



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Posted on Sat, Oct 06, 2012 02:25

Oh..and I noticed that the other meber referred to might be "the former member" now...as I cant see his blogs any longer..and that might be because of complaints made to MM that he is disrespecting other members, MM and also questioning MMs company policies as for allowing non-paying members write in the blog section...well ex cuzzzze me..thats none of his business and all MMs business so respect or go home...as it seems to be the case...for now.



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Posted on Fri, Oct 05, 2012 00:39

Hi Hoping4Love2000, Well normal is a relative term, which must mean the word itself is overvalued :-) Im glad all turned out fine for everyone and even if Im new here and dont know Voyager54 else than some few blogs but I do know justice all too well and thats what really matters. This was not only a matter of Voyager54, but more a matter of right/wrong in general. Well I did not get any pre-request by him to put this blog up, and since this was up all "shots" either herein or in some brand new blogs are all the same - unity is  a beautiful force -as we are under the same MM roof, and Im glad this helped people to tell the story etc.

 

Regarding Sweden and WWW, sure we are are neighbors with or without the WWW, as we are all humans, that is the prime connection...although English is not my mothertongue and I have not lived in an englishspeaking country Im sure trying to keep up with all you folks ;-)...and we cant change the time issues, things like MMs office hours, or when writing/reading/responding, it is sun to moon difference for some, so I got jetlag just because of it :-)))

 

By the way...some peoples comments come in so far after they have actually written them time/date...mine comes in straight away (when they do not disappear that is)..Ive noticed it many times..Oh well maybe another tech thing in my account MM needs to sort out...



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Posted on Thu, Oct 04, 2012 21:09

Okay, farmboy V...enough time off. Get your staff and start stirring...or whatever the duce it is you do here that keeps us rolling on the floor.
 
 
I really am glad you're back, V...it was a bad call all round at first.


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Posted on Thu, Oct 04, 2012 21:03

Hi Liv,
 
Thanks for the welcome and welcome back to you. We need more bloggers with a sense of humor and a big mouth...or should I say a good keyboard? I think we're going to be great friends.
 
I've already read your new blog and voiced my opinion. We need more fun and less preaching on the blogs, and now I think the preaching has about fizzled out!
 
I didn't take offence to 'the email'. Just considered the source and sent it on to worldmind. Tried to get in touch with Hope but couldn't get through since she hadn't contacted me first. The main thing was to get information out to let the others know what was going on. It was an effort by many of us, and not just one or two. We all wanted V back, despite the fact that he's like a burr under the saddle for some people. This is said with the most respect and warm, fuzzy feelings, V. I do like rebels...especially ones who farm...they have so much more s**t to sling! Buhahaha.
 
That 'new blog' you referred to was posted shortly after I posted in a letter to MM that they might should have a talk with that member because s/he got pretty uppity about standard members being able to post on the same blogs as paying members. The Powers That Be must have said something to him...although I doubt if I was the only person who pointed that out to management.
 
What matters is that, through the effort of V's friends...both old and new...we now have our own Bad Boy back. Let the world continue to rotate on it's axis.
 
Good to meet you, too.


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Posted on Thu, Oct 04, 2012 10:17

Liv.-

 

Hello, I'll be eagerly awaiting the publication of the two topics you mention. :))

Francie


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Posted on Thu, Oct 04, 2012 06:08

Hi WORLDMIND...

Yes, it is great to have things back to normal... whatever "normalcy" consist of....

The blog you refer was written "per request" by the "Man of the Hour" himself. I gladly did this, as we have been blogging together over a year now and I felt he deserved every shot at having his case heard. 

Thanks for everything! And not to worry about Sweeden local, as this is the Wide World Web... We all are practically neighbors regardless of distance! ;)



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Posted on Thu, Oct 04, 2012 04:19

Oh well well...who do we have here, on this (original) "Voyager quest" blog...the man of the hour, Mr Voyager54!

 

Welcome back indeed and thanks for posting your comment on here...as several were your best and dedicated "advocates", as Francie said, unity gives strength...and none of us will ever know or be able to measure the amount of "work" put in by each individual to Bring Voyager Back :-)

 

In regards to religion mentioned in the blogs, my opinion is that since a religion is an important part of who we are, and we are here displaying ourselves as real as possible so that our eventual future partner might get a wellrounded picture of us, then religion is indeed a natural ingredient. However, as I said before, our behaviour, either on here or in real life proves if we are genuine or not in the beliefs we display. Unfortunately many christians are only so on paper and Im sure Jesus Himself would have asked them..who is your teacher? As He would not recognize His own teachings in their actions. If touching religious subjects in a more respectful manner, just like addressing one another respectfully, will cause keine drama...and one must remember, that sometimes silence is gold.

 

So, thanks all for helping me clear up my quest for the truth in this matter, and thanks Voyager 54 on making the circle full, by answering "what/why just happened".


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Posted on Thu, Oct 04, 2012 04:03

Hi Hoping, Thanks for the info (although it was already on my blog at the time you posted this)...and so good that all is cleared and I am happy the number helped...and special thanks to all who helped and offered info, like WIndrider735 and others, and I tried to do my very best with this and also MM although i live all the way in Sweden :-)



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Posted on Thu, Oct 04, 2012 03:56

Hmm...I tried to sometimes copy my blog and emails, as I noticed that there have been some huge technical issues where a big amount of emails etc disappeared before me even opening them, and some comments on the blogs, even some I have made myself, have "dissapeared" so MM have been keeping a very close eye on my stuff (for some time at least), as they are checking the tech surrounding my account, and some might "fall out"...and one single comment (as far as I know thus far) was not as "suitable" as it was "pointing directly out another member"...however...I must say that even a person like me has now grown a bit "tired" of this other members newer blog postings (the ones also Liv is mentioning - Hello Liv :-), somewhat direct/indirect "attacking" on fellow members and MM...as this "other member" has himself gone out and posted some things regardning (meaning he has pointed himself out in that sense) this matter, so after all that, I am posting the copy I kept with a comment from Hoopla55 (although and only the other members full name is edited), and que sera sera ;-)

 


"Well, I am going to pull my membership from MM over this matter, and I'm a new member! Since MM has handled this so poorly, why don't we all??? TN has only been a member for a short time.  V has been blogging on this site on and off for years and provided entertainment, education, and given us all food for thought in his own quirky way.  He is on this site to make people laugh. So he stirs the pot a bit...makes you ponder a subject longer than a nano second...isn't this the good ole american freedom of speech we all love? although, V never felt religion should be brought into a site like MM as there are other sites for Christians if that is their "thing."  I believe this is where TN must have had his knickers twisted. TN feels it's his responsibility to come onto a site like MM and tell people how they should behave.  Shame on MM for allowing him. I personally hesitated to join any social site but once I read Voyager's blogs I realized this site was more than just a date site. If all of you have read his blogs, he never was a fan of people who are arrogant or pompous. Thus, the pot would be stirred. Who is managing the show at MM??  There was nothing disparaging written to TN. TN is a buzzkill and should grow up.  The MM blog managers should investigate this more closely as they clearly did not do their research and look at the evidence. V did nothing wrong. A new member comes on the site who has authored a blog "how to seduce a woman" and promotes his classes (are these free or is MM a marketing tool for TN?) and then hypocritically promotes his christian beliefs. I'm confused and saddened that the fun is over". 

 

 

 

...and Francie likes Hooplas comment! :-)

 

 

 

 

 

(Hmm...even now when I tried posting this it disappeared some times and I had to repost it several times again...hope it sticks and doesnt get removed)

 



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Posted on Wed, Oct 03, 2012 05:21

Yesss thats right Francie..Voyager54 emailed me being so thankful & happy about all...Im sure he will soon be commenting again...so now..business as usual :-)



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Posted on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 19:17

Worldmind,

Unity is strength (The Voyager friends together we can get it done justice), I am very happy, our complaints were heard and justice will be done.

 

All are equal and have the same rights (only care about being honest with each other), if you are a member or non-member (which is a condition that only you decide) and that condition makes it no less important to others .... ...

 

Thanks to all for the help.

 

francie



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Posted on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 14:02

Quoting Windrider735:


Hi worldmind...
 
 First, allow me to make this perfectly clear. This is not an attack on the person who got V blackballed. You asked for an explanation and that's all I'm offering. That same person also has a problem with some comments I posted on V's blogs.
 
 
 You state that differences should be handled through private email...I agree, but it's rather difficult to do when that person sends you an email and blocks you from responding, which they did to both V and me. I'm leaving out any personal information about this person, including gender. The email also included this statement...(Sorry, this user has enabled email filter and is blocking messages!). This is the content of the email that this person sent me:
"Debate is geared to discuss issues NOT attack the author. This NON paying subscriber and yourself as a NON paying subscriber should not be able to post comments on a site with paying members.

Facts:

Neither of you are paid subscribers to MM.

Neither of you are Verified subscribers to MM.

I am a paid subscriber to MM.

I am a verified subscriber to MM."
 
 
Draw your own conclusions. Personally, I think MM could have come up with some sort of compromise that would have benefited both parties. As for slandering another...barbs were being thrown from both sides of the fence, so why was one punished and the other allowed to go free? V's been here for many years, and a lot of us enjoy his blogs and replies. To have him pulled doesn't set well with quite a few of us.
Francie...did MM allow my response to your email  to go through?  

Windrider,

 

Welcome to the Blogs! I have been away from MM for a little while and it seems the house has been set on fire in my very short absence. I am glad it appears that the Fire Service has done a good job of dousing the fire.

 

However, I could not help but respond to your post as there is a brand new blog by some member on the same topic of non-paying members' right to blog or to sneeze!

 

First, I will introduce myself to you here as the official cheeky girl, who can also be a nerd or a walking, talking encyclopaedia (of only the stuff I am interested in, lol). I like to have a laugh and I just don't get it when people deliberately try to offend others.

 

I am incredibly sorry that someone actually thought it 'decent' to send you the above obnoxious and insulting e-mail! How rude? I am so sorry. This person obviously has no class or decorum and as such, in my opinion, does not deserve a discussion.

 

OK - I am off to post something about Penis sizes in relations to different Races. A new research is out on that topic! Lol!!

 

Good to 'meet' you.

 

Liv.



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Posted on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 10:57

HI WORLDMIND. I contacted MM and VOYAGER is ALREADY back along with his profile and blogs... He just may not know it. LOL... 

I spoke with MM and the lady stated they would be writing V and letting him know.. 

Thank you so much as I used the number you posted to call them directly. 

Now back to our regularly scheduled program... :)



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Posted on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 09:10

NOW FOLKS! I just got news verified that Voyager54 is welcome back as soon as he contacts MM and clears some simple administrative account matters. Anyone who can get in touch with Voyager54 at his personal mail please tell him as he doesnt seem to have got these news.

 

I guess our complaints were respected/heard.

 

Justice seems to have been served.

 

Hopefully we all learnt some lesson by this, respect is monumental, no personal attacks should be thrown around (especially in public), and a true Jesus follower does not judge nor punish in any manner which have been shown. He/she forgives, even their enemy...and keeps peace breathing.

 

Voyager54 welcome back!


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Posted on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 01:41

This is MMs reply regarding the Voyager-case to enquiring members: 

 

"We will investigate the whole issue carefully. You can also call us at
1-(416)-628-1072 to tell us more in detail so we can resolve it sooner.
Thanks again"


So people in favor of Voyager54s return - make a call!

 

 




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Posted on Mon, Oct 01, 2012 21:35

...dear people, as I am sure most already know, please try to not point out "other members" by specific name...as obvioulsy MM does not like it...



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Posted on Mon, Oct 01, 2012 16:42

There are two solutions:

 

1) Everyone can complain to mm about the person with such obvious hypocritical display of virtue. 

Pros: Enough complaints, s/he might get banned.

Cons: They do nothing

 

2) Ban s/he from your blogs and refuse to comment in his/her blogs.

Pros: Self censorship goes a long, long way; Doesn't require Admin participation; Isolation is a good teacher (afterall we give children timeouts);

Cons: None that I can see as his/her blogs don't appear to add any value to anyones life and those post are really passive/agressive attempts to display what s/he feels is his/her superiority.



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